Moving Target

Moving Target – Jermain Defoe

Earlier today, Bournemouth confirmed their second summer signing following the addition of goalkeeper Asmir Begovic, with Jermain Defoe joining the Cherries on a free transfer from Sunderland.

The 34-year-old put pen to paper on a three-year contract and will return to the club where he spent a loan spell during the 2000/01 season.

Speaking to their official website, Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe expressed his delight at being able to attract a player of Defoe’s quality back to the south coast:

“This a huge moment for the football club and another step in the right direction. We want to bring players here who can have a big impact on our continued rise, and we believe Jermain fits that as a natural, proven goal scorer.”

The History

Defoe began his youth career at Charlton Athletic at the age of 14, before moving onto West Ham United, where he made his professional debut in a League Cup tie against Walsall in September 2000, scoring the only goal in a 1-0 win.

He was then sent out on loan to then Second Division outfit Bournemouth, scoring 18 goals in 29 appearances, before being handed his Premier League debut against Middlesbrough in May 2001.

The 2001/02 season saw Defoe establish himself in the West Ham first-team, scoring 10 goals in 35 league outings.

Despite the Hammers relegation to the Championship in 2003, Defoe remained at Upton Park for six months before joining Tottenham Hotspur in February 2004 for a fee rising to £7 million.

He spent just under four years at White Hart Lane, scoring 43 goals in 139 appearances and then moved to Portsmouth for £7.5 million in January 2008.

Defoe’s spell at Fratton Park was short-lived though, with Spurs deciding to re-sign the striker a year later.

Although not always a regular starter, Defoe remained a consistent goalscorer for the north London outfit, netting 47 times in 135 appearances over a five-year spell, before deciding to join MLS side Toronto FC in January 2014.

He scored 11 goals in 19 matches, but the lure of a return to the Premier League proved too great, and he joined Sunderland a year later.

After a relatively slow start, Defoe totalled 30 goals and five assists in 70 appearances over two seasons with the Black Cats, although he couldn’t prevent them from suffering relegation last term.

Defoe represented England at U16, U18 and U21 levels before making his senior debut in a 1-0 friendly defeat to Sweden in March 2004.

He has amassed 57 caps for his country, scoring 20 goals, and recently returned to the fold under current manager Gareth Southgate.

The Prospects

Having consistently scored goals throughout his career, Defoe’s outstanding predatory instincts should mean he is a success in his second stint at Bournemouth.

Upon confirmation of his move to the Vitality Stadium, the England international stated “the one thing I can guarantee is goals,” and based on his output for Sunderland; there is little to reason to doubt his word.

The Cherries began last season with Callum Wilson as their first-choice striker, but he succumbed to a second serious knee injury in as many seasons back in February.

Josh King – who had spent much of the first half of the season switching between playing out wide and taking up a support striker role – cemented a berth in the starting XI following Wilson’s injury, while Benik Afobe also forced his way into the XI.

Howe often switched between 4-4-1-1 and 4-4-2 systems during the second half of last season, with King and Afobe enjoying much success as a front pairing.

But given Defoe’s quality, he is expected to take over from Afobe as the central striker, with King set to either play alongside or just behind the veteran.

King was one of the huge success stories in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) last term, particularly during the second half of the season, belying his starting price tag of just 5.5 to produce 16 goals and three assists.

The Norwegian international thrived as an “out of position” Fantasy asset, classified as a midfielder in FPL but invariably playing in a more advanced attacking role.

But with reclassification as a forward likely for 2017/18, Fantasy managers look set to be handed a dilemma.

Having started last season priced at 7.0 in FPL, and finishing the campaign as the fifth highest scoring forward with 166 points, Defoe is set to earn a price hike to between 7.5 and 8.0.

King will be expected to command a similar valuation when the game launches next month. However, with Defoe set to snatch spot-kick duties – having scored five for Sunderland – he looks to have the upper hand.

Assessing their underlying statistics, Defoe had the edge in terms of shots, averaging an attempt every 33.5 minutes, slightly superior to King (40.6).

Bearing in mind that King made numerous appearances on the flank during the opening months, his numbers remain impressive. Certainly, those outings in midfield help explain why he averaged a key pass every 90.70 minutes – significantly stronger than Defoe (166.1).

But we should consider that Defoe produced his statistics in a side that ranked joint-bottom for big chances (35), although notably, King boasted a superior goal conversion rate (23.9 to 15.2).

Bournemouth ranked seventh for both goals scored (55) and big chances (65) in 2016/17, so Defoe can perhaps expect an improved supply of chances at his new club.

He is surely set to rank among the leading mid-price forward options, although Bournemouth’s mixed opening schedule (wba, WAT, MCI, ars, BHA, eve) means that Fantasy managers may choose to sit back and assess the data before committing to the Cherries attack.

Regardless, the capture of Defoe looks a canny piece of business, and with Begovic and perhaps defender Nathan Ake also on board, the Cherries look to be building a squad capable of securing a second successive top 10 finish.

Defoe certainly looks primed for another fine season, but the battle with King to claim a place in our affections could be a debate that rages throughout the campaign.

Further Reference

Jermain Defoe Wikipedia

Jermain Defoe Transfer Markt Page

Jermain Defoe 2016/17 Goals

644 Comments Post a Comment
  1. ★Kuntheman★
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Hector A, Werner G

  2. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Love Emre Can me.

    1. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Nice head of hair

  3. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Defoe is scoring at least 20 league goals at Bournemouth next season.

    A. Agree
    D. Disagree

    1. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      D. That's a bold statement

    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      D

      He's getting older now. I think he'll get between 12-15 more than likely.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Hehe.

    3. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'd say 12-15.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Pfft, he scored 15 at Sunderland...

        1. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          He's never scored 20 PL goals in a single season before so it's fanciful to think he will now at this stage of his career mate

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Post hoc ergo propter hoc

            Bournemouth's attacking statistics were up there with the big clubs last season. Sunderland's were pretty awful.

            Defoe is a perfect professional. He's devoted his life to looking after himself to stay fit and strong.

            This is the perfect storm 😉

    4. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      D. 10 to 12 IMO. I think he will play around 25 games in total minutes (because he will be subbed and rested a lot)

    5. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      D.

    6. Kuqi Monster
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      D

    7. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A

      1. FPL Kangaroo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Lol

    8. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      8 penalty goals and 10 other goals plus 6 assists will do for me.

    9. FPL Kangaroo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Im going D. Just. He will score between 15 - 18 goals.
      BOU create a hell of a lot of chances.But he has competition from King/Wilson/Afobe/Stan.

    10. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'd say a maximum of 16 league goals.

      1. KingNidge
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Hi Hibbo

        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Hello Nigel,

          Anything to report?

    11. jimmy.floyd
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      D

    12. SweepaKeepa
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Very D. Less than 10.

  4. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    The FA should handover responsibility of the England national team to the Premier League IMO. In addition, even if it leads to an international ban, the Government should pass a law stating the PL is responsible for the management and oversight of the England national team.

  5. TorresMagic™
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    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Top goal by Mexico

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Chicharito?

  6. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Wow

  7. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    What a strike! Mexico consolation free kick.

  8. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Fabián 😯 That was miles better than his goal at Dortmund last season.

  9. TorresMagic™
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    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    4-1 Germany

  10. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Emre assist 🙂

  11. Je suis le chat
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Love the way Germany always have lots of players showing for the ball, wanting a chance. A kind of morale courage, to paraphrase Johnnie Giles.

    1. FPL Kangaroo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Johnny giles.What a legend.

  12. Gubbins94.
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    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Swear a Mexican has met every corner.

  13. Je suis le chat
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Damien Duff from the Jamie Rednapp school of punditry; " the strength in depth Germany have is literally disgusting"

  14. StalkingDwarf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Germany as so good at controlling the tempo. They are so flexible and can control possession, press hard or allow pressure. They controlled the flow this game and knew when to start dominating possession and when to sit back and hit Mexico on the counter. This could also be seen in the u21 game against England.

  15. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Defoe at 5.5m or lower and he's straight in my team.

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Looks like he won't be in your team 😎

    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Hopefully he's classed as a defender

      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Rondon was wrongfully classed as a striker last season so there is hope

        1. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          lol

        2. Jafooli
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          😆

        3. fedolefan
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          He probably would have scored identical points as a forward or a defender. Only player in the league who could do that I think.

    3. StalkingDwarf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Bit optimistic there I think haha.

    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah, about the same price as Kane then.

  16. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    All PL teams pre-season games, including travel maps:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/29/team-playing-summer-pre-season-destinations-20-premier-league/

    You're welcome.

    1. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Looks like Southampton are going to be busy 😀

      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        And Everton are off to Tanzania 😛

    2. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Have you a map for Partick Thistle pre season tour?

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          The compass looks a bit wonky. Hopefully they won't get lost

  17. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    So Ronaldo has a new set of twins to a surrogate mother

    Beginning to believe the rumours about him

    1. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      He gave birth to them himself mate

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Explains why he didn't take a penalty last night

    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Hmm, I wonder who is the father?

      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Nani

        1. Jafooli
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Sorry, thought you said mother....

          1. Syd.
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Nani is the Nanny

            Cool

    3. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      His girlfriend must be delighted

      1. FPL Kangaroo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        She'll be grand.She's pregnant now.

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Messing around with Messi I bet...

          1. FPL Kangaroo
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah things are going to get very messi now.

  18. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Just home after tonights EL adventure where we beat FC Pristina 5-0.

    Great fun.

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      5-0 victories usually are fun

      Who do you play in the next round

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I have no clue, is that fixture set already?

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          I know the next round of the CL is already fixed not sure about the EL

          1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Oh, I'll have to check then.

            1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              It is set indeed. St Johnstone or Trakai next opponent.

              1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                Hoping it will be the Scots as they were good fun to have in our town during the Euros in 92.

              2. Syd.
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                Looks like it will be Trakai

  19. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    How's the GW2 wildcard team coming along lads?

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Auto-select like GW1.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Free gameweek 2 wildcard according to Optimus.

    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Will look terrible after deadline day...

    3. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Holding out to GW3

    4. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Post gw1 WC is where it's at

      1. Licky
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I personally champion the pre gw1 wildcard.

    5. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Changed the 4 Liverpool stars grav so quick?

      1. Licky
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        It's being reworked to include Keita, Mendy, VVD and a genetically engineered clone of Kenny Dalglish.

        1. Botman and Robben
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Was hoping for a genetically engineered Suarez included.

      2. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I prefer the forehead 🙂

  20. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Question for anyone with a top 1K OR ...

    These are the defenders I want for GW1: Moses, Milner, Kompany, Trippier (if nailed), Kolasinac, Valencia, Cedric and Brunt.

    1) Is it worth splashing out on 3 or more premium defenders?

    2) If so, which ones? I'm really struggling to whittle it down.

    There are so many defenders I really want, whereas I can take it or leave it in midfield and forwards. Is anyone else experiencing this?

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Elitetess

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        It's not like I went to school at Eaton!

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Just as well it wasn't Eton

          You might've had to put your lad into a pigs head

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            It really dismays at how comfortable the public at large is with animal cruelty.

            I felt so sorry for that poor pig 🙁

            1. Syd.
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              Poor Samantha

              Having to endure that

    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Price list needed.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Do you agree that there is an overwhelming choice in defence, TM?

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
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          When the template defence is formed on here, you won't think so.

          1. FPL Virgin
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            • 7 Years
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            But with the rise of the wing back and with defenders becoming more and more attacking, does the template need to be ripped up?

            1. TorresMagic™
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              • 14 Years
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              2 weeks and all will be revealed.

              1. FPL Virgin
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                • 7 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                You've missed my point there, sadly.

            2. Parm
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              Only one defender registered more than 10 G+A last year and that was Alonso. Until more start hitting that number I'd rather invest elsewhere. Wing-backs generally have poor quality end product and that's why they play there. If they were good enough they'd be wingers. Antonio Valencia, Victor Moses, Oxlade-Chamberlain. #Trends.

              1. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                High quality analysis there, Pharm.

                But I was looking at PPG amongst the highest scoring defenders and midfielders, and there does seem to be more value for money with the defenders. They were hitting similar PPG levels and costing £2 to £3m less.

                1. Parm
                  • 12 Years
                  6 years, 10 months ago

                  It's all relative.
                  Here's my main problems with 'elite' defenders
                  - The main source of points is still defensively. Elite sides will register 15+ clean sheets a season and the subsequent bonus points to go with it *might* be more likely to go to centre-backs.
                  - Goals and assists seem to be sparsely spread, almost unpredictable for wing-backs. How can you move from one to the next? How do you know these guys are going to get goals and assists? Opportunity? Attacking quality?

                  I was talking to Wakey earlier last season and we agreed that picking these players and leaving them for the season is the most likely way to gain success. The old Baines "never captain, never bench" mantra should also add a "never sell" to reflect this.

                2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 10 months ago

                  Points for defenders would tend to be more spread out due to cs I'd imagine, whereas midfielders and forwards would have skeins of form where they perform a lot better than average defender performances. Harvesting these patches of form in midfielders means that PPG is an inaccurate measure of both as though defenders are more consistent, midfielders can unleash more potential if you pick them at the right time

    3. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Moses and Milner, might not be classified as defenders. Same with Brunt. None of the others don't really seem essential to me at all.

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Top 400 k k here

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          *4 Mil I'm special

    4. HVT
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      No

    5. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'm thinking of the same thing myself. If Heaton, Dawson and Cedric come in at my "guesstemations" then my team will kinda look like this;

      Heaton 5/Huddersfield GK 4.5 = 9.5

      Kompany 6 Valencia 6 Cedric 5
      Dawson 4.5 (B)Rosenior 4 = 25.5

      Alli 10 Ozil 9 Coutinho 9 Tadic 7 Stanislas 6.5 = 41.5

      Aguero 12 Llorente 7 (H)Quaner 4.5 =23.5

      0 ITB

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I like that. Are you sure Stanislas is nailed tho?

        1. Ghost Gooner
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          I'm confident Stanislas is the main wide forward ahead of Fraser and Gradel.

          My transfers up to the 2nd international break are earmarked to deal with gametime issues (Stanislas/Valencia) or injury (Kompany).

    6. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Im in a draft league and I have decided through much analysis that having 5 premium defenders could get me ahead of the rest (not sure if this works in standard fantasy football though). As long as I draft a decent premium striker and mid (to be my captain options) I can start drafting defenders early while everyone is fighting for the rest of the forwards and mids, whom as you have suggested, probably won't have the same PPG as my defenders.
      If this plan works though, I NEED the best defenders and also good remaining under the radar mods and forwards.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I've thought about a 5-4-1. It will either be genius or a complete disaster and nothing inbetween.

        1. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Well, for conventional fantasy football. For draft leagues, it stands a bit stronger, I need very nailed defenders for the best defences, who are also quite attacking. I'm thinking something along the lines of....
          Azpi, Valencia, Trip (if nailed, if not then Toby), Kolasinac, Cedric.
          Milner is in if by some miracle he becomes a def, and no LB is signed.
          Maybe Alves or City LB but only if they're not rotation risk, i.e. Walker + Alves = staying clear of both.

          What do you think? Have I missed any glaring obvious ones out?
          What are your thoughts on Baines?

    7. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'm not sure why a 1k OR has to do with picking defenders but I was ranked 384th so seems I can share my views.

      I'm currently (price list dependant) almost certain to play four at the back to start the season and have my eye on the following back line:

      Forster (5m) / 4.0m
      Alonso or Milner (7m) / Kolasinac (5.5m) / Bailly (5.5/6m) / Dawson (5m) / 4.0/4.5m bench fodder

      The prices are what I'd estimate the players to come in at.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I think you're onto something here.

  21. HurriKane
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Germany B team(current team in confed) and Gemany C (under21) will still beat England Senior team? Agree ?

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Probably would

      England are shite

  22. Parm
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Starting the season with a full 15 man squad of £4.0m & £4.5m fodders so I have money to upgrade everywhere.

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Can you lay out the positions and prices?

      1. Parm
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        4.0, 4.0
        4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0
        4.5, 4.5, 4.5, 4.5, 4.5
        4.5, 4.5, 4.5

        £36m ITB.

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          What have you been smoking?

          1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Parm is the greatest fpl since sliced bread

            1. Syd.
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              You can't beat a good French stick

            2. Parm
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              I am Parm and can confirm this.

            3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              player

        2. Dokdok666
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Brilliant. Do you mind if I copy, or is the patent pending?

          1. Parm
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            You're more than welcome to copy so long as I get a mention in your FPL winners speech.

            1. Dokdok666
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              Thanks! I already have my winners speech prepared: "Move Over Ville Rönka, a new sheriff is in town!"

    2. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Good starting point for building your team. Every extra 0.5m needs strong justification.

    3. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      It would be brilliant if every one had to start with this and only add 1 player per week to improve.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        +1

        Would you try this with a second team?

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Only if you want less than 11 starters for a couple of months.

  23. shirtless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Bang goes the 3-5-2 plan. I'm now thinking..

    4.5/4.0

    Bailly/Lindelof VVD/Chelsea/Spurs 4.5 4.5 4.0

    Sane Pedro Pogba xxx 4.5

    Jesus Kane Defoe

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Defence is the new attack.

      1. shirtless
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yes Bailly Alonso VvD was a thought. Maybe Mawson and Maguire if they're 4.5/5.0.

    2. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      You can't play 8 at the back.

  24. FrankieTheGent
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    If Aké moves he'll be a definite for me

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Even if 5.0?

      1. FrankieTheGent
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Absolutely

    2. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Needs to be 4.5

    3. shirtless
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Ake Mawson Maguire all for 15.0?! Food for thought.0

    4. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Can you explain why please?
      Thank you

  25. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    WTF.... Just switched over to channel 4

    Really is this what C4 needs to do to try to improve ratings

    1. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Just saw it. What a load of old kak.

      I've put Frank Sknner on now doing a doco about Ali.

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I've switched back to the 10pm news. There are also plenty of tits on there

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          This Skinner programme is ok...Some nice angles on him.

          1. Syd.
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Which channel is it on?

            1. Dr Dream
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              BBC4

            2. Dr Dream
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              It's all about the background to Ali and quirky tales instead of just about his fights.

    2. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Oh...and....I think CH4 need to realise that a couple of naked bodies really don't mean much to the Internet generation. They really won't increase ratings by doing that.

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Exactly. Reminds me of years ago when they use to have a red triangle in the corner of the screen when there was explicit material

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Haha...yeah they did. Hardly explicit though

  26. HVT
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    *waves hello, says goodbye.

      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        🙁

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          😉

  27. Parm
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    4th midfielder points scoring 16/17 based on FFS trends from what I can remember so not entirely accurate.

    GW1-3 - Redmond(13pts)
    GW4-7 - Capoue(27pts)
    GW8-12 - Allen(30pts) (Matty Phillips was also the jizz during this time)
    GW13-16 - Zaha(31pts)
    GW17-21 - Phillips(38pts)
    GW22-25 - Iwobi(16pts)
    GW26-37 - King(96pts)
    GW38 - Stanislas(9pts)

    260pts in total. 6.85 PPG.

    1. FPL Kangaroo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I think I will have 2 of Redmond/Phillips/Stan/Zaha in my GW1 team.Going with 3-5-2. All these four players should be priced below 6.5m right?

      1. Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Zaha and Redmond could be 7m. Interested in Stan myself.

        1. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Is Stan gonna be nailed though?

    2. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I've said it many times Parm. The key to doing well with the mids is to get that cheap fourth mid right and that by swapping from one form one to another the 4th mid is actually a 9.0 mid....

      Every team should read something like this

      Sanchez Eriksen Sane Form/fixtures 4.5
      Kane Giroud Form/fixtures

      There's no need for us to name a 4th mid or 3rd fwd....they reveal themselves to us and we just have to react.

      1. Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Nice. Is Sane the real deal? I'm a bit worried re rotations.

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Dunno. I'm just giving an example of a team and how we should consider setting our mindset up on how to play the game.

          We don't need to, nor should, set about naming every player in our team. The cheaper ones show themselves and we just have to hop on and off.

      2. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        +69

      3. UnitedFan
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Will keep this in mind. Flexibility is key.

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Yes it is. The danger is that for GW1 we water down a couple of picks to squeeze more money into the 4th mid spot and/or the 3rd striker spot.

          Much better to know that a 4th mid at 5,5 will come forth all on their own so just allocate that fund to the 4th mid spot and hop aboard.

          The same applies to the 5th defender spot. Just allocate 4.0 to that spot and wait for the first pick to come along (make sure it's a very low ownership non playing 4.0).

  28. Je suis le chat
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone know how the scout picks (including captain) over the season did overall in terms of points?

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      How would you calculate captain points?

      1. Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Would pick the leader in the scout poll as captain.

        1. Annie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Aha, I'm rusty after a few weeks off 😉

  29. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    When do the first pre season friendlies start?

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      July 8th

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        week commencing 8th july? 😯

        1. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          lol

        2. FPL Kangaroo
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          ahahaha

  30. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    85 comments and counting.

    Is this one of Jonty's best ever articles?

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2017/06/29/a-good-start-in-fpl-lessons-learnt-from-201617/

    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      You remind me alot of the poster formally known as "Chu Yung Ping Pong" who I disliked at the start but whom I grew to love 😀

      1. FPL Kangaroo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Do you like me 😉

        1. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          I like you but I find it hard to believe that you just found this site so late on in the season 😉

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Would you use the word "fraud", Opty?

            1. FPL Kangaroo
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              Woah woah virgin steady as she goes pal lol.

          2. FPL Kangaroo
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Haha listen this is my only account I swear.I've just been lurking in the shadows for a bit 😉

    2. VS10_
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      In Jonty's standards, yes. But the real good community articles have over 1000 comments.