Opinion

This Much We Know – Gameweek 5

There’s no separating the Manchester sides as United and City each continue their title surges, but Harry Kane is only able to disappoint his disillusioned devotees.

Gameweek 5 is full of surprises, not all of them pleasant ones…

We need to get over our trust issues with Pep

Five excruciating Gameweeks in and it is all about damage limitation for those of us who eschewed heavy investment in the ephemeral charms of Pep Guardiola’s stars.

Even the briefest of glances at any Minutes Played charts had cemented our knowledge that the Etihad would be rotation central for his Sky Blues and we had reached the elementary conclusion that points would, therefore, be impossible to predict.

How wrong we were.

While an obstinate streak inside me still bleats about the fact that only Fernandinho has started and completed all 450 minutes, all the sand of the Sahara wouldn’t be enough to shield my senses from the truly imperative figures.

Sixteen goals for and only two against (a statistic spookily shared with their Old Trafford adversaries) has caused those of us who complacently avoided Pep’s players to belatedly accept City’s now inescapable message.

The Spaniard seems to be willing to manage minutes rather than stifle starts and does it really matter if your FPL asset harvests a double-figure points haul in 60 minutes rather than the full 90?

And ask a certain Argentinian for his forgiveness

For those of us who ignored the warnings, the only consolation is that we weren’t alone.

After his cameo appearance at Bournemouth, Sergio Aguero shed hundreds of thousands of owners, with nine points against Liverpool the following week only provoking a slight revival in ownership.

Aguero’s sensational 20-point haul against Watford – in which he converted three of his four on-target efforts and gained one assist from the three chances he created – didn’t tell the full story, with the frontman’s display reminiscent of a certain five-goal demolition of Newcastle United that is still the stuff of FPL folklore.

Indeed, with the slaughterhouse at five, the Argentine even had time to lament his magnanimous nature (and Raheem Sterling’s selfish desire to convert the penalty he himself had earned) before referee Andy Taylor finally put brought an end to the Hornets’ suffering.

Kun has been essential before – at two million pounds dearer.

But with home fixtures against Palace, Stoke, and Burnley sandwiching games against Shakhtar Donetsk and Chelsea, over 339,000 managers have decided since the weekend they could stomach some bench-time if he continues wolfing down an FPL point every nine minutes he is on the pitch.

Is Pochettino the new Pep?

As one of nearly a third of a million FPL managers to bring in Ben Davies this week – safe in the near certainty that the four-point hit would be recompensed by an inevitable clean sheet at home to shot-Scrooges Swansea – I chose to disregard what I considered to be only a slight rotation risk for the full-back.

Subsequent revelations that the Welshman may have been preserved to protect a slight injury did little to improve my mood or to satisfy me that some unnecessary tinkering had not taken place following Spurs’ midweek exertions against Borussia Dortmund.

As a luckless owner of Dele Alli and captainer of Harry Kane, I felt doubly, if not trebly, deflated – only Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Mesut Ozil had created more than Davies’ 13 chances before Gameweek 5 kicked off.

Granted, I cannot hold Son Heung-min wholly culpable for the England pair’s failings, with the South Korean still creating three chances against Swansea. But Kane’s minutes per chance almost doubled from 12.7 (in Gameweeks 1-4) to 22.5 (in Gameweek 5) and I can’t help but feel that Davies’ absence may well have played a part.

Rotation or not, the growing anxiety over Spurs’ failure to break down defensive sides, and Kane’s own impotence in converting not a single league chance at Wembley, has seen hefty sales. Alli, Kane and Christian Eriksen are being ushered out of sides as FPL managers begin to wake up to the realisation that only the Manchester streets are paved with goals.

Better late than never

With 80 minutes played at Old Trafford yesterday, it looked as though many of the “lol at Harry Kane captainers” posters were about to be met by the equally sophisticated “lol at Romelu Lukaku captainers”.

Instead, United made it 16 goals in five matches, an incredible nine of which have been scored in the final ten minutes. Not exactly “Fergie Time”, but great news nonetheless for those who benefitted from Lukaku’s goal, assist and three bonus points.

Indeed, had a substitute winger not taken the penalty which he had earned – a familiar narrative – Lukaku could have left his owners flying even higher.

As it is, we don’t have conclusive proof as to whether the Belgian will reclaim penalty duties (following his previous miss against Leicester City) if the current designated taker, Juan Mata, is not on the pitch.

Five goals in as many matches, playing for a team which has created more big chances (20) than any other and trailing only Aguero on FPL points, you would imagine Lukaku’s huge ownership will only increase.

The Belgian is still leaking ownership, but his 12 points on Sunday have gradually reversed the trend and switched focus to Kane’s Gameweek 6 credentials.

We stand and fall by our own decisions

With no representation from Manchester City and only the less than prolific Phil Jones in my ranks, My Pretty Pony certainly backed the wrong horses this weekend in trebling up on Spurs’ assets and the marginally more prosperous selection of Mo Salah and Roberto Firmino.

As a result, there are now over one and a half million reasons obstructing my fourth consecutive three-figure finish.

The next 33 Gameweeks will be some battle, particularly with the embers of my precipitously spent Wildcard smouldering back in Gameweek 4.

However, like every one of the other five million players, my mistakes are my own, and the buck should always stop with the person who hits that Confirm Transfer or Confirm Team button.

We have an array of fantastic resources available to us, with more advice, statistics and debate than on the eve of a UK referendum, but when we allow ourselves to be swayed by the views of others, that is still our own decision.

I personally can’t point to any duff counsel upon which I’ve acted this season except my own, so maybe I just can’t empathise with the pain of those who were convinced by others not to bring in and captain Aguero this week, or who gave Jamaal Lascelles the boot because someone mentioned that David Luiz was definitely “due”.

All I can do is to implore people to remember Aristotle’s words that ‘It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it’.

1,502 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Tommy1045
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    What you guys think
    Erikson and chicharito out
    Atsu and aguero in -4
    I also have kane

  2. PocketZola
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    richarlison to ritchie?

    1. Pauntley
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      yes - I did that this week - Ritchie is taking corners and free kicks - Newcastle score lots of goals from those. He also takes pens and can score from free play

    2. Delhidynamo
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      no keep him, he looked good

  3. McSauce
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Right tough little decision here. Advice would be great?

    A) Ramsey & Kane

    B) Eriksen & Firmino/Vardy

    1. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      B with Firmino

    2. Orange Roughy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      A if you're going to captain Kane, B if you're not.

  4. eamonhegg
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Foster / Elliot
    Mee / Davies / Jones / Kol / Dawson
    D Silva / Mhiki / Astu / Willian / Carroll
    Lukaku / Kane / Firmino

    A - safe transfer
    B - Willian > 7.1mid
    C - WC

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Save FT or Willian to Ramsey

      1. eamonhegg
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Yep this.

        Plan on WC GW8. So not sure

    2. RealSocialDads
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      B Ramsey

  5. cravencottage
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Atsu or Brady?

    1. eamonhegg
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      B

  6. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Come on Pep, rest Kun and Jesus vs Palace my son. You could win that game by playing Bravo in goal.

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Okay I didn't really mean the last part.

      1. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        🙂

  7. McSauce
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    So Frontline speaks for itself. Have I found a formula for the big 3 or is this Top Heavy?

    Foster
    Otamendi Jones Kiko Naughton
    Ramsey Mykhi Silva
    Aguero Lukaku Kane

    Krul, Obaing, Carolle Memba

    1. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      this is fine - if a risky bench and with nowhere really to move if you get an injury

      cedric over jones for me as well

      no chelsea or pool is risky, the latter will still score a lot

    2. Postman7
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I like it, though I prefer a strong back line and great value mids instead. My version:
      Foster (Elliott)
      Alonso/Bailly/Davies (Mbemba/Zanka)
      RLC/Ritchie/Gross (and then Mhki/Brady or Mane/Carroll)
      Aguero/Lukaku/Kane

      What do you think?

    3. Freddo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      No Alonso, Spurs defender, United defender, Kolasinac, Salah/Mane, Spurs mid, thats a lot of highly owned bullets to dodge for the sake of one extra big striker.

  8. HurriKane
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Is Cedric a good alternative to Kolasinac.?

    Soton nexr 6- MU sto NEW WBA bha BUR

    Id really want the big bosnian but with Aguero Lukaku Kane upfront the funds are limited.

    That would mean my back line is.

    Elliot.
    Bavies Jones Cedric Naughton (Rosenior

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      No

    2. Pieterke30
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Decent

      Cédric won't get half the points of Kolasinac though

      1. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        yh . but i think Cedric Gross/ will outscore Kola Caroll as a combo for me

  9. Gríma Wormtongue
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Has anyone got a front Three of Kane + Lukaku + Aguero

    ?

    1. The Wanton Trader
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Lolarov 2 posts up has... 🙂

    2. eamonhegg
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      and back 3
      Mbad - Gomez - roisner

    3. Maddi Son
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Somebody posted that front three yesterday and surprisingly the rest of the team didn't look too bad.

      Personally I think Kane + Lukaku + Jesus is a better option. That extra million turns a Mooy into a Ritchie.

      1. stex
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I've had them from the start - Elliot (Hart) Daniels Simpson Bertrand (PVA, Tomkins) KDB Matic Ritchie Xhaka (L-cheek) Kane Lukaku Kun(c) went from bottom of my minileagues to top in 2 weeks

      2. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I'm running LuKaKun + Mooy 😕 Need to find a way to offload Mooy now

    4. HurriKane
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      \o/.how does she look.?.

      Elliot
      Bavies Cedric Jones
      Mikhi Salah Gross Atsu.
      Kane Lukaku Aguero.

      subs- krul naughton caroll rosenior

      1. Atimis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Almost my team!

      2. The Wanton Trader
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I'd take her home after 8 pints.... 😉
        Would wonder what the hell I've woken up with in the morning though..
        Captaining nightmare..

        1. HurriKane
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          not a bad dilemma to have.

          atleast most if them have good form fixtures and are primed for points

        2. The Wanton Trader
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          I quite like it actually..
          If you manage to get on the right player for your captain you'll do well...

      3. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Spicy hot

    5. 824545201
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Elliott Krul
      Kolasinac Jones TAA Mee Mbemba
      Alli Salah Atsu Carroll RLC
      Kane Aguero Lukaku

  10. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    DDG, Elliot
    Davies, Yoshida, Dawson, Mee, Long
    Eriksen, Salah, Mhiki, Atsu, Carroll
    Lukaku, Kane, Mounie

    2FTs, 0.4M in bank

    Worth a hit for Mounie, Eriksen, DDG --> Aguero, Brady, Fabianski/Foster

  11. Ninja Škrtel
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Accidentally brought Atsu instead of Ritchie...f*** me.

    could be a happy accident though....

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      *regrets*

    2. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Howd you manage that

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Mistaken identity.

      2. Ninja Škrtel
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        i was very tired.

    3. MikeDuff
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      They do look alike

    4. Caravagio
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      could be a blessing. Ritchie great but a card magnet.

    5. Delhidynamo
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      rule no 1- no hits after hits

  12. There Can Be Only One
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Guys on my wildcard and just wanted to share some interesting info, I've gone for 2 big hitters - Bavies and Mendy and 3 cheaps Naughton, Moreno and Mbemba for anyone who's interested the 3 cheapies rotate as follows to week 16. Obviously some risk associated with albie's game time but that's a helluva list

    WAT
    new
    HUD
    CRY
    HUD
    BRI
    SOT
    WAT
    wba
    bri
    WBA

    1. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I'd be more interested if Moreno was nailed, but he'll share game time with robertson

    2. There Can Be Only One
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Should add week 7 could be whu, week 11 and 13 can be BOU

    3. Sims
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Bavies is not nailed and will be rotated even more when rose gets back

    4. There Can Be Only One
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      The rotation doesn't include davies, its just the 3 cheapies.

  13. SkeletONv01
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Vardy or Roonpig from next week onwards as a 3rd striker? Toughts?

    1. Dybala10
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Vardy easily.

  14. Scheister
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    No City cover.

    Kane to Aguero or Jesus?
    Or hold?

    1. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Hold

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Hold.

    3. Prison Mike
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I'm probably doing Kane to Aguero

    4. Dybala10
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Hold. Spurs have some great games coming up away from 'home'.

  15. Atimis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Yah or nah? (Not a WC)

    Foster/Elliot
    Bavies/Jones/Cedric/Lowe/Mbemba
    Salah/Miki/Ritchie/Chalobah/TC
    Kane/Kaku/Kun

  16. Bury94
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Do we know what the LMS safety score was?

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      42

      1. Bury94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers

    2. J T
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Not sure but I went from 700 to 2600 ;-(

  17. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I feel sorry for Yoshida. He's a good defender. I don't want him to be dropped again 🙁

    1. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      #prayforyoshi

    2. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Thought same with Stephens. Good player.

    3. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      wont be dropped... Hoedt has not done anything special to earn that spot

      They might even switch to 3 at back

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        *obviously in my opinion*

  18. GRIMANDI [formerly boring M…
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Is triple K feasible or just plane stupidity?

    Like many i'm on my WC this week.

    The burning question is can you accommodate the 3 biggest names in the game right now with out destroying your team going forward?

    Adopting Marks 2x4.5 & with Richie @ 5.9M Rambo showing promise @ 7M Silva @ 8M [all with great mid term fixtures]. I beginning to believe it is very much doable.

    Would be keen to hear what the people of FFS think as I continue to wrestle with imbalancing my side.

    1. GRIMANDI [formerly boring M…
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      ** by triple K i mean Kun Kane & Kaku

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah let's just pretend you didn't mean to reference something else.

  19. The Hindu Monkey
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    who is best Watford defender to get for 4.5 then? I have no idea...

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Kiko

      1. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        where was he saturday?

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Slight injury

    2. Delhidynamo
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Kaboul once he's fit probably

  20. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Possible WC draft:

    Elliot / Krul

    Kola / Davies / Naughton / Ward / Mbmem

    Salah / Micky / Ritchie / GroB / TC

    Kane / Lukaku / Jesus

    Seems pretty good to me. Thoughts?

    1. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      so sim to mine it's eerie...

      I like the power three and mikhi, ritchie, gross combo of assisters in the middle

      allows a very good defence

      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Have you played WC?

        Could obviously go for Kun over Jesus and downgrade elsewhere.

    2. Jsadler95
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Nice. Similar to mine except I have Morata, Eriksen and Jones instead of Kolasinac, Ritchie and Kane.

      1. Jsadler95
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        and a couple of other differences but they're the main ones.

  21. Boomerang V
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Play:
    Atsu (BHA - A)
    or
    TC (WAT - H)

    1. HurriKane
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Atsu

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Tom

    3. ch
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      A

  22. Ravager
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Suggestions?

    Foster (Elliot)
    Stephens Danilo Davies (Mee, Hunemeier)
    Gross Mkhi Eriksen Ritchie (Carroll)
    Lukaku Kane Firmino

    1 FT 0.3 ITB

    Missed the drop but Stephens > Jones?

    1. Jsadler95
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I would.

  23. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Tempted by Bobby F and Alli to Rambo and Kun.

    Thoughts?
    Have Salah and Kane for 'cover' 🙂

    1. RealSocialDads
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah good moves

  24. I AM GROOT!!!
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I am gonna go with Sanchez (c) this week!

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      whoopsie

      1. I AM GROOT!!!
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Just a punt! If not now, then when

  25. Daniel Exeter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Am I mad?
    I might do a -8

    Gabbi > Abraham
    Alli > Mhiki
    Willain > Silva

    1. I AM GROOT!!!
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Joselu instead of Abraham?

  26. Big_Andy_GAWA
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Do we think Kane will drop before the deadline? On minus 19% at the mo. Thinking of W/carding back in instead of Jesus.

    1. Sims
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Nope

  27. Pierce34
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    The amount of knees jerking with Firmino is hilarious. He already went up this week, and is now about to drop in the very same week.

    1. Sims
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      It's because only the knee jerkers got him in recently and now want him gone

    2. Jsadler95
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      It's probably not a bad idea tbh. I've never had Firmino in my team as I always expected Salah to out perform him since pre season. But with Mane out, Firmino will probably be played out wide to accommodate Sturridge up top. It's well known he's way less effective from the wings so he's a lot less likely to perform while Mane is out so probably not a bad call to transfer him out until Mane is back. However I still wouldn't do it, it just isn't as daft as it seems when you think about it.

    3. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Sturridge to catch fire will be interesting - Sturridge, Firmino, Salah, Mane, Coutinho - looks like a rotation nightmare to me. When's Lallana back also?

      1. Jsadler95
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        November but he'll be in midfield not in the front 3, same with Coutinho.

  28. anish10
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Hows Richarlson looked recently? May take him out

    1. Delhidynamo
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Watch the highlights, almost scored off Cholebas's header

  29. Sims
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Doesn't look like alli or kane will drop this week

    Both need to perform on Saturday or else it's a double drop next week for those who own both

  30. Jasoooooooo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Worth doing Firmino, Miki and Valencia -> Aguero, Ritchie and Jones for a -8 point hit? Only way I'm prepared to get Aguero in.

    1. I AM GROOT!!!
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      You want to drop mikhi who got you 9 and Valencia who got you 15 points for a -8 ! !?!?!

      Please don't! Not for a hit atleast!

    2. Jsadler95
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I don't think so no.