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Monday Dugout Discussion

Put up your feet, pour yourself another glass of mulled wine and grab that tin of Quality Street. After all it is christmas, and after all we’ve got another match to take in as we round out gameweek nineteen just as soon as it starts.

The Dugout Discussion closes it’s door for no-one and a festive game between Arsenal and Chelsea are no exception. Just nineteen weeks down and Arsene Wenger finally gets to start his two key players – Cesc Fabregas & Robin Van Persie – together for the first time this season, while the likes of Walcott finally get a start after weeks waiting patiently on the bench. Managerial heavyweight Carlo Ancelotti meanwhile gets to start Frank Lampard for the first time since August also. Team sheets in full are…

Arsenal: Fabianski; Sagna, Koscielny, Djourou, Clichy; Song, Fabregas, Wilshere; Walcott, van Persie, Nasri

Chelsea: Cech; Ferreira, Ivanovic, Terry, Cole; Essien, Mikel, Lampard; Kalou, Drogba, Malouda

Come join the festive banter as we all gorge on treats ahoy together and close out the gameweek in the Dugout Discussion.

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  1. encored
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    want some good opinion..I got in Welback for Elmander but still have Drogba..I was thinkin of gettin in Tevez for Drogba but delayed takin that step..As a result Tevez has gone up to 11.2 but Drog has fallen to 12.4..so should i go in for the swan or wait for sometime n wait for Drog to hit some form...cheers

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    1. Danny x-factor
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      follow your heart

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  2. wozza
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I'm in yee boat matey.

    It seems as though when VDV plays, Bale doesn't get many points. I didn't make the transfer on the basis that I think VDV may well be rested at some point. Bale seems to be super fit and I remember Harry playing him after he almost killed himself ripping Inter apart in Europe.

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    1. breakballartist
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yea, with his dodgy hammys, VDV is a minutes risk alright...

      Gd to hear a few of yee are sitting tight with Bale!!

      So if i don't do the VDV Bale switch, any transfer suggestions?? Thoughts much appreceiated!!

      Was thinking about getting a DEF in, or shipping out MGP or Jarvis...

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    2. neopaint2005
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I have the same problem but I'll get VDV in for Malouda right now! At least this GW the fixture not too bad to have both Bale and VDV.

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  3. goblinz
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    out of the 3, which 2 should i play?

    shawX
    carroll
    nzog

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    1. Wesley Sneijder at OT
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      am playing shawcross for sure... but deciding bw MGP and Nzog

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    2. encored
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      caroll and nzog anyday

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      1. PM
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Tricky. Carroll for sure, N'Zogbia just over Shawcross -- but either one is okay.

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    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      The two offensive players.

      Blackpool are very well rested.

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      1. Lafawnduh
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Shawcross is home to Fulham who can't seem to score, surely he is worthy of strong consideration?

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        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Sorry, I was wrong.

          Fulham not Blackpool. But I'd still play N'Zog.

          I'm on the fence with Kyrgiakos vs N'Zog. And Kyrgiakos has Wolves at home!

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          1. Lafawnduh
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I hear you...it's between Konchesky, Shawcross, and N'Zogbia for me.....hopefully the decision is purely academic as surprise benchings happen often around this time of year.

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  4. Clintymints
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    alrite teams done... torres as captain and tevez as emergency capt... not so mad on torres, but lets give it a go

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  5. PM
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Quick poll -- start 1 of 3:

    (1) Etherington (ankle?)

    (2) Kyrgiakos

    (3) Elmander

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    1. breakballartist
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      With Ethers a doubt, i'd run with the big Greek!!

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      1. wozza
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Agger coming back makes the Greek a bit of a risk also. Personally, I'm playing both and hoping for the best. :S

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    2. encored
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Kyrgiakos..they are at home to wolves..if they don keep a clean sheet for this one, they never will

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      1. PM
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks for the advice. good luck.

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  6. breakballartist
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Best Sunderland MID option?? Am thinking Henderson...

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    1. dk123
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      dont go near them there not worth it go for a mid or foward if u want to invest

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      1. breakballartist
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        They're 7th, and have 2 nice fixtures before WC time!! Team is tight bar that, and am just looking for a cheap diff for this week anyway!! Will sort DEF out when WC'ing. Henderson looks the pick for me...

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  7. dk123
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    which 3 should i start nzogbia nasri carrol nani

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    1. breakballartist
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      The last 3 for snizzle...

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      1. PM
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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  8. Morrissey1986
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I got no better options so team is

    Foster/Dann/Rafael/Kolarov/VDV/Nasri/Nani/Cahill/Torres/Welbeck/Tevez

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    1. Constructicons form Devasta…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ouch/On/The/Double/Brummage

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      1. Morrissey1986
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hoping Brum have one of those home games to frustate. Other options need changing.

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        1. Constructicons form Devasta…
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Good luck to you i say. United are getting back in form though. Might come back to bite you on the...uh....brum.

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  9. ClaireT
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I've already got VDV in the starting line-up. Choose one to start out of Bale, Bardsley, Carroll

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    1. encored
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      bale-the whale...that 20 pointer cant be that far away

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      1. ClaireT
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers!

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  10. Perthite
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Can anyone let me know how well/poorly Nasri played?

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    1. breakballartist
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Was on the ball more when Fabs went off at the end. Granted, the game was all but over, but with Fabs out, he should be more prominant!!!

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    2. encored
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      poor is not the word...a total disaster..i would have given him negative points if i was in the panel..missed a sitter in the second half

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    3. Constructicons form Devasta…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He was wiiiiiide on the left, didnt get the ball much and when he did he couldn't do much with it since he wasn't at the centre of play. With Fabs out, i expect him to return a decent haul.

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    4. Perthite
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks. I have both, so Fabs out this GW will possibly mean more action. I am thinking that I might have to lose Nasri in the WC when I use it. Probably a good excuse to bring in a player with a double GW when I do.

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    5. rasher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      nasri could have scored twice tonight he shot outside the box when0-0 and only for cech to pull off save of the march it was going top corner o ly for him to get fingertips to it

      2nd chance was a one on one he tried a chip bu messe it up and was an wast save.

      He looked good on the ball but mos the team were involved

      I give 7 out of 10

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  11. qstormheavyrain
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    no scout picks

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    1. rasher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      11am

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  12. Perthite
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Any news on what Liverpool's defence is going to be like? I am crossing my fingers that the Greek holds his place.

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  13. PFOR
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Camzy, what transfer did you make?

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Krul > Begovic.

      I'm mulling over transfers big time.

      I want shot of Cole, but I want to use the funds to get a heavy mid like Fabregas or Gerrard. It'll be a two or three part thing, and I'll lose Drogba too.

      Plans are something like:

      Cole > Rafael
      MGP > Fabregas
      Drogba > Berbatov

      But then I have no Liverpool coverage... It's really tricky.

      Maybe Gerrard for a few weeks before switching to Fabs. Torres is too much of a risk for my liking.

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      1. PFOR
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I'm leaving my keepers alone (even though signs aren't great) until GW 27 when I'll get Begovic and Foster.

        Want Cesc in for the City game but would mean 2 successive 4 point hits. I'm thinking Vidic --> Rafael + Dunn --> N'Zog next week, then Nasri --> Cesc and Tchoyi --> Adam (DGW).

        Regarding Torres, he's my skipper for this week so I hope you're wrong.

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        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          You need Tevez mate.

          Get rid of Elmander for Tevez.

          Vidic > Rafael
          Elmander > Tevez

          That works right?

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          1. PFOR
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Already got Tevez tonight, didn't need the other transfer. Had 6 odd million in the bank saved for him 🙂 Feels good to have almost full team value. Did quite well with all the money in the bank mind.

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            1. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Cool.

              That's alright then.

              I wouldn't rush to take point hits seeing as a WC will be available very, very soon.

              Just paper over the cracks for a few more weeks, maybe rig a team specifically for GW 24 (the double gameweek) and then right after that one, WC and then build a solid foundation to last you the season.

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  14. rasher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Lads should I risk starting elmo and bench vidic I think united will concede?

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    1. PFOR
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Nope. I see Sunderland conceding and at least Vidic offers attacking potential.

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      1. rasher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        hmm yeah vidic will probably score if i drop him

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  15. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Which games are in danger ?

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  16. Lafawnduh
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Was about to bring in Gordon for Jussi, as Foster's fixtures are diabolical. But isn't Reina a no-brainer until the wild card? Great opposition including 2 doubles? I have Konchesky also.

    I'm also not convinced Sunderland won't concede against a well-rested Blackpool, even without Chaz Adams.

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  17. RD
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    camzy can u just peek into my team and suggestsomethng.....i need a liverpool coverage at the moment....but dont know whom to offload....and me more keen for gerrard...

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    1. bhargi
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Malouda -> VDV and Foley -> Konchesky. You have already done 1 transfer. what did u do ? surprised that u played Bosingwa ahead of Kolarov last week.

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      1. bhargi
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I am no Camzy but for whatever its worth

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    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Malouda has to go.

      He's not making much of an impact, and seeing as Chelsea are playing much more for set pieces, his value drops as Drogba and Lamps are now playing.

      With a wildcard literally just around the corner, I'd just look to plug gaps. Get players that will score well now, and if your team balance is a mess, o well, you have that WC.

      Malouda > Van Der Vaart or Gerrard

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  18. theevilking
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Can't decide who to captain:
    Nasri
    Tevez
    Torres
    VDV

    I've discounted Nani as Birmingham's defence at home is too strong.

    I would have discounted Nasri too until I found out Fabs is suspended, which makes Nas the main man again.

    Right not I'm leaning VDV, but he could limp off injured at any moment. Torres has Wolves at home so by all rights should score a couple, but you can't tell this season. Tevez and Nasri have been in great form but have perhaps slightly trickier fixtures.

    Who are you lot captaining?

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    1. dk123
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      out of those id choose nasri. vdv was risked last match so might get a rest. torres out of form tevez crap at home

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    2. bhargi
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Safe choice Tevez. I am going for Tevez ahead of Torres, VDV and Nani. Emergency captain Torres

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  19. dk123
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    nzogbia or nani worried that nani may still have after effects from flu

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    1. bhargi
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      prefer Zogbia at home compared to Nani away ag BIR

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  20. China Mag
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!

    My new captain selection tactic worked a treat on boxing day. I'm a toon fan so I decided to hedge my bets against us losing against man city by selecting tevez as my captain! BOOM! Suddenly the pain of losing didn't feel so bad anymore. Up into the top 10,000 with that decision! BOOM! Should I repeat the feat again today and go with VDV?

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    1. Katie
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      If you fancy it - go for it.

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      1. Boom!!!
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        wow even after getting 74 u r out of the cup!!great team n score by the way katie!!

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        1. Katie
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Shit happens, concentrate on the league now 🙂

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      2. bhargi
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Katie, who did you ship in for this GW ?

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        1. Katie
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          vdv

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          1. bhargi
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Yep, good choice. I would be scared to go without either of VDV or Tevez

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    2. bhargi
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Just 7 points behind you, I was not so lucky and got Ethers as captain on Form instead of Tevez on Value.
      Going with tevez this week over torres and vdv

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  21. $hahriyar
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    tough choice, foster or krul?

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      foster just for saves...

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        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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    2. Fellaini fro
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'm in the same boat, but have one free transfer and may go for Gordon & Krul. Fixtures would be BPL, BBN, WHM, NEW, up until the wildcard deadline.

      Is it worth using a transfer on a keeper this season or go with foster and save two for next week?

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  22. Kagawaaaaaaw
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Who would you guys play out of Barton, Dempsey, and Elmander?

    Can only play 1

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      barton

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      1. Ibracadabra
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Barton has looked good recently and I think he's your choice out of those three. I'm in a tough spot with Barton vs TOT, N'Zogbia vs WIG and Bardsley vs Blackpool all vying for one spot.

        I'm 50-50 for N'Zogbia and Bardsley at the moment, and may go N'Zgobia despite Arsenal's form.

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  23. dk123
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    do people think vdv will play tommrow rednapp said he left him on to long even at 70 minutes

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      i think he will play bcoz he was subbed off in last game...

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  24. rabm122
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Line up for GW20… what am I doing wrong?

    Gordon
    Kyrgiakos,Coleman,Kolarov,Vidic
    VDV (c),Nzog,Nasri,Nani
    Drogba, Tevez

    (Foster, Elmander, Jara, Adam)

    Thinking of Bringing Bosingwa in for Jara and benching Nzog or Coleman???
    Maybe next week boot Elmander for Carroll.

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    1. rabm122
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      or to put it another way, what to do with free transfer given the team above:

      a) Bosingwa in for Jara and bench Coleman
      b) Bosingwa in fo Jara and bench NZog
      c) Save the transfer
      d) other

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  25. bhargi
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Can't decide between K.Davies -> Varney or MGP -> Yaya Toure

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  26. Grumpy
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    any games at risk this GW??

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  27. Lieutenant
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Okay - quick dilemma/poll.

    Alternative 1:
    Field four defenders out of:
    Vidic, Konchesky, Kolarov, Shawcross, Bardsley

    Alternative 2:
    Three defenders out of:
    Vidic, Konchesky, Kolarov, Shawcross, Bardsley

    + N'Zogbia.

    Which one would you go for?

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    1. rabm122
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Suffering the same dilemma. Hard to say without the rest of your team but, I'd go with those 4 in back.

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      1. rabm122
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Sorry, 4 defenders:

        Vidic, Konchesky, Kolarov, Shawcross

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  28. neopaint2005
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I need to off load Malouda but for whom?? Can someone please have a look at my team and shade me some light :
    Thinking about
    1)Malouda out for VDV, Bale out for 7.1 M / 4 pts hit
    2)Malouda out for VDV keep Bale no hit
    3)Malouda out for 9.6 M or less midfield , who???

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      2.

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    2. rabm122
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      2 for me too.

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      1. neopaint2005
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks guys, 2 it is then.

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  29. Mr (C)ALM
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Alrighty folks - never post these days but been on the site for 3 years - way back when it was very quiet. Looking some advice as its too hot here in Perth to spend any more time in front of my PC.

    Want an attacking Liverpool player in - risky i know but either...

    A) MGP > Gerard (0pts)

    B) MGP > Gerard + Elmander > Wellbeck (-4pts)

    C) MGP > ???( Torres (-4pts)
    Please suggest replacement for MGP

    Worried Nani/Coleman wont play and i will have to field Elmander/Foley/D Simpson

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    1. Back to Back Ballacks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      mgp to gerrard,,,no hits

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      1. neopaint2005
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        A+1 for me, no hit need for your team. How do you manage to have so much money??? I would love to have that much to spend when wc comes around. 🙂

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    2. Mr (C)ALM
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      OOps didnt like the less than or equal sign..

      C) MGP > ???(5.6m) Elmander > Torres (-4pts)
      Please suggest replacement for MGP

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      1. Mr (C)ALM
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Anybody else before i press the button?

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  30. Back to Back Ballacks
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    How am i fixed boys??,,already done bale > VDV,i know city have bad home record but fancy a goal spree 2m so tevez is Skip for sure!.,should i be doin a double or am i good to go?
    Carson (Jussi)
    Shawcross-Cole A-Kolarov (Cahill,Foley)
    Van der Vaart-Gerrard-Nasri-N'Zogbia-(Rodwell)
    Tevez (c)-Carroll-Rooney
    Meerry Crimbo!!

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    1. Mr (C)ALM
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Its hard to call - but i fancy Wellbeck this week. No point in you getting rid of Carrol though for him. Not keen on Rooney away to Brum even though i am a united fan - they are due a slip up soon and more than likely now esp if Nani isnt fit. Berbs cant keep up the scoring surely.

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