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Monday Dugout Discussion

Put up your feet, pour yourself another glass of mulled wine and grab that tin of Quality Street. After all it is christmas, and after all we’ve got another match to take in as we round out gameweek nineteen just as soon as it starts.

The Dugout Discussion closes it’s door for no-one and a festive game between Arsenal and Chelsea are no exception. Just nineteen weeks down and Arsene Wenger finally gets to start his two key players – Cesc Fabregas & Robin Van Persie – together for the first time this season, while the likes of Walcott finally get a start after weeks waiting patiently on the bench. Managerial heavyweight Carlo Ancelotti meanwhile gets to start Frank Lampard for the first time since August also. Team sheets in full are…

Arsenal: Fabianski; Sagna, Koscielny, Djourou, Clichy; Song, Fabregas, Wilshere; Walcott, van Persie, Nasri

Chelsea: Cech; Ferreira, Ivanovic, Terry, Cole; Essien, Mikel, Lampard; Kalou, Drogba, Malouda

Come join the festive banter as we all gorge on treats ahoy together and close out the gameweek in the Dugout Discussion.

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  1. Boom!!!
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    jamseip will again admit chelsea is sh1t!!!

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    1. Boom!!!
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      *jamsiep

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  2. dave_the_bear
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    This is a cruel game...

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  3. Goose
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    Considering form, fixtures, consistancy etc. Has anyone worked out how to get the following in their team:

    Nani, Nasri/Fabs, VDV, Cahill, Nzogbia, Gerrard/Torres, Tevez, Drogba, Carroll, Bent/Wellbeck

    Didn't think so, some tough decisions to make!

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    1. thehodge
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      I have 7 of them. 🙂

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    2. Akers
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      You didn't think so? Really?

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      1. Goose
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        Yeah I was being serious 🙄

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    3. Im Not Marshal Foch
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      Same.. could have 9 if i did a couple of trannys

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      1. Goose
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        9? Do tell?

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      2. $hahriyar
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        that's a steep price to pay 😉

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          Indeed!!

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      3. Granville
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        Who is your EC foch?

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    4. Mr Smith
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      I have 7 of those

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    5. Woy of the Wovers
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      Why would you want Gary Cahill?

      Difficult to get 5 forwards in my team.

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      1. Granville
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        Cahill is awful, well the Bolton defense is, they got a cleanie but were very lucky.

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  4. Horlicks esq.
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    Malouda or Arteta for VDV.

    Malouda (vs Bolton) I surely need a Chelsea player in the team. !!!?!

    Arteta just subbed in (game called off so would be in and out straightaway)

    Everyone dumping Malouda?

    Lost on last page?

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  5. Boom!!!
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    consolation prize of jamsiep :going to the 3rd round of fpl cup!

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    1. Stat virgin
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      It's a bit sad how much you talk about him

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      1. Back on the horse
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        +1

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      2. PFOR
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        Haha agreed.

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  6. TO
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    Moral of the story tonight:Wenger DO NOT play Arshavin

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    1. Dimitar
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      hehe

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    2. $hahriyar
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      mostly it is pointing at Chelsea not Arshavin although he has been horrible too!

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  7. jamsiep
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    Woah, BPs already in:

    Kalou 3
    Lampard 2
    Malouda 1

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    1. Boom!!!
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      harsh on kalou... malouda deserves all 3...

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    2. JWF
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      You forgot Ramires.

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      1. jamsiep
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        Ramires was excellent compared with those three.

        Seriously, Kalou is the worst player in the world.

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        1. Shakey
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          yeah, you have to put it into context.

          Gael Clichy had him in his pocket

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  8. Andy06
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    fab given 2 assist??? he didn't touch the ball for the first goal right?

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    1. Im Not Marshal Foch
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      yes he did

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      1. Andy06
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        LOL you 2 r obviously fab owners. Check out the vids! He didn't touch the ball

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    2. chinmusic
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      Yep. Little nudge on it. Right decision.

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  9. Horlicks esq.
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    12 point hit...Ever worth it?

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    1. kroky
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      no

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  10. Dunlox11
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    Hodge, Did you make any transfers this week?

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    1. thehodge
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      Made 2 for a 4 point hit.
      Bent to Torres
      Vidic to Rafael

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      1. Dunlox11
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        Im saving mine this week. Whod u captain

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  11. jamsiep
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    Guus Hiddink please Roman.

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    1. TommyK
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      you do realise that guus isn't his b*tch don't you?

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    2. mr messi
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      +1

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    1. conchur
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      good shout lad

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      Did you bet on 3-1?

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      1. $hahriyar
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        Aha aha 😀

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          What odds did you get? Did you have a decent bet?

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      2. $hahriyar
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        is that the league you talked about before? Any room?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          It's open until GW29.

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    3. Akers
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      If you throw enough crap at the wall, something is bound to stick. 😉

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      1. $hahriyar
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        I was feelin confident though, but never get the united ones right, clouded judgment obviously!

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    4. Churchill
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      Witch.

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  12. Im Not Marshal Foch
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    Drogba's getting dumped for Tevez for me.. first time in months, maybe even years, that i'll not have a Chelsea player in my team..

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    1. Utinsh
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      Welcome to the club. 🙂

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    2. Back on the horse
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      ha - do it. I don't have any arsenal either. gone long on Manchester teams

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    3. NLB
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      +1 Kept faith with Malouda all this time, but could see him benched in the midweek game
      Their fixtures aren't bad though...

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    4. mr messi
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      Me too. It's hard to stomach as a Chels fan but needs must.

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  13. hillbillypete
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    i had song last scorer at 25/1 and Ivanovic first scorer at 33/1

    imagine if i had it other way around....

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      u r kidding

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      1. hillbillypete
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        nope 🙁

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    2. Back on the horse
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      not sure those odds would have been long enough for me...

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  14. TommyK
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    AP, you were right. Nasri. Is. Overrated.

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    1. Shakey
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      AP, you were wrong. Fabregas. is. not. overrated.

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      1. TommyK
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        Obviously he isn't.... (although I'm assuming that no-one was likening him to Messi at the time)

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      2. AP
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        Lol so predictable. Nice to see you out of the bunker though mf.

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    2. AP
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      Well quite. I'm guessing fabregas will now be world class again.

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      1. Woy of the Wovers
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        What do you mean, again? Last time he wasn't he was 17!!

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    3. kroky
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      nasri played well

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    4. jamsiep
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      I don't understand this post. Are you doing your normal cocksucking, or are you taking the piss?

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      1. TommyK
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        nope, just pissed off and agreeing with AP about something. Chin up BTW! 😛

        (Better change the gravatar sharpish!)

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        1. jamsiep
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          Nasri played well today. 😕

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          1. Akers
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            Time for a gravatar change old boy.

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          2. TommyK
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            See below. First half alright, but still showed that he lacks bottle to finish.

            If rooney put in a performance like that you'd be all over him like a rash- admit it......

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            1. jamsiep
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              You clearly haven't been watching much football recently... I suggest you watch clips from the Tottenham, Fulham and Man City games in particular.

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              1. TommyK
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                Point still stands. By your own rules he's overrated (i.e. rooney "flat track bully").

                (City were down to ten, tottenham were pretty shocking at the back)

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            2. $hahriyar
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              the nasri bashing is a bit harsh actually. only we managed to completely take him out of he game and remember that now opponents ay more attention to him.

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    5. Nomar
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      Funny thing is, with Fabs out for the Wigan game after his booking tonight, Nasri will probably run the show against Wigan on Wednesday.

      Problem is none of us will have the emergency armband on him then.

      Seriously got to decide what to do with Cashley now. Currently a colossal waste of cash. Actually not that hard really. He'll free up the cash I'll need to do Nasri to Fabs in GW22. Sorted!

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  15. BONZ
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    Ding Dong Drogba now gone!!!!

    Mr Torres come on down!!

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    1. TheHazard
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      Drogba is probably the one Chelsea player worth keeping. had a goal or assist in each of Chelsea's last 3 league games.

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  16. Holy See
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    Was expecting a titanic struggle. Instead, I have witnessed the Titanic. Sinking. Chelsea.

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  17. NLB
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    Could really see Malouda being benched in the midweek game...

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    1. Im Not Marshal Foch
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      Chelsea don't have anything on the bench so i doubt it

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      1. NLB
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        I want to have coverage during their next few games, having no Chelsea is my side would look weird
        Tough decision!

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    2. sy
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      I'm thinking that too depending on how serious anelka injury is but his place must be under threat as kalou was kept on ahead of him

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  18. gooner dave
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    Poor week fpl-wise. However nice result tonight.

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  19. Just_Ty
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    VDV in for Cahill or Malouda (still had him yeah), I'd lean towards the latter. Cahill has 2 more games and could do well

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  20. Spoiler
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    well well well..

    nasri is once again is just utter crap when fabregas is on the pitch (for fantasy)

    its time to bring in fabs after the wigan game me thinks..

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    1. Churchill
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      Crap is a bit harsh. Agreed though, after the Wigan game in he comes.

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    2. Granville
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      I don't think that's true, he was good in the first half and Fabs was missing.

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      1. TommyK
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        he still flattered to deceive though, even when he was playing alright. Unless he's carrying a knock then it's really hard to defend him as a serious replacement for fabregas.....

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    3. sy
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      Nearly scored a great chip, had a one on one so easily could have scored alot of points

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  21. Splhodge
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    Narsi for VDV? or K Davies for Tevez? however doing K Davies for tevez will leave me nothing in the bank

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  22. Shakey
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    Djourou is the man. We don't need a new centre back, just Vermaelen fit and Wenger to pick our giant Swivorian.

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    1. Churchill
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      If he retains his place, a mere snip at £4.2m.

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      1. Goose
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        True, considering all the cleanies u keep...

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    2. TO
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      +1
      He won all the headers and tackles

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    3. AP
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      He was good, no doubt about it.

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  23. BigUps
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    3- Fabs
    2- Wilshire
    1- Song/Drogba

    Thats how I saw it, but Wilshire probably won't get the credit he deserves.

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    1. Spoiler
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      song - 3
      fabs - 2
      random - 1

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    2. PFOR
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      Wilshere really did improve in the second half. A lot of Arsenal players deserve bps but I think they'll be boring:

      Cesc 3
      Song 2
      Walcott 1

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    3. hillbillypete
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      fabs 3
      walcott 2
      song 1

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      1. Viper
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        ^^^^^Thats the one right there^^^^^

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    4. Boom!!!
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      drog really????????????????????????

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    5. TO
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      Fab 3
      Djourou 2
      Walcott 1

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      1. Nomar
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        Fabs 3
        Song 2
        Van Persie 1

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  24. PFOR
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    I have found a way to have Cesc, VDV, Nani, Torres and Tevez in my team while retaining a very decent defence.

    Life.Is.Good.

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    1. SNOW
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      Same!

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  25. Bosko
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    Can anyone give advice on the following transfer?

    Nasri & Jarvis OUT
    VDV & N'Zogbia IN

    Is this a bit crazy for a 4pt hit? My midfield is weak for this GW:

    Nasri/Jarvis/MGP/Nani/Brunt.

    Thanks

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  26. Syd.
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    Quote on bbc..

    "Wonder how many Bolton fans would have believed you if you told them that if they win their next game against Chelsea, they go above Chelsea."

    lolz

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    1. PFOR
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      You may have been, *sigh*, slightly right earlier 🙂

      Still finish top 4 though I have no doubt about it.

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  27. m165
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    I have 2 free transfers, which of these looks the best?

    1. Malouda > VDV & Elmander > Tevez (bench MGP)
    2. Malouda > VDV (bench Elmander)
    3. MGP > VDV (bench Elmander)

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
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      Probably 3. With Chelsea's games, Malouda should be in the points and I don't see Tevez getting 4 pts more than him.

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  28. Baines on Toast...
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    Song ought to get 3 BPs, Fab could easily trump him but my he was superb.

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    1. Spoiler
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      +1

      song 3 bonus easily, mark my words. he was everywhere

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    2. TheHazard
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      A hand in all three goals should see it go to Fabs, but Song was really good.

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  29. JohnnyRev7
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    Awful performance. Awful. Kinda scary that Ramires cost £10m more than VDV. Kinda scary to be a Chelski fan as well. 😥

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    1. Granville
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      Why is every transfer fee put in relative terms to VDV. OK he was cheap, but they were in the right place at the right time. Real needed to get rid and wheeler dealer Harry was there to snap him up.

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      1. TheHazard
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        Spurs got VDV for less than we got Ade Akinbiyi. True story.

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      2. JohnnyRev7
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        'Arry disagrees

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk

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