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The Promoted – End of Season Report – Norwich City

Two back-to-back promotions for Norwich City means the Premier League welcomes yet another Scottish manager to the fold, as Paul Lambert brings his brand of open, attacking football to the top flight this upcoming season.

A manager in demand, Lambert had already rejected an official offer from Burnley back in January and when West Ham were looking for a new boss after sacking Avram Grant towards the end of May, penned a new, improved 12 month rolling contract along with assistant manager Ian Culverhouse and head of football operations Gary Kars. With their new deals in the bag, Lambert and co. can now concentrate on acquiring players for next season:

“It’s terrific for myself and Ian and Gary. We came here together and we’ve never indicated we wanted to leave at all. I’ve loved my two years at the club. I’m delighted everything has been sorted for the three of us and now we are working on bringing players into the club. We have to try and give the current group a hand, as I have always said.

We want to try and make this club the best it can possibly be. We’ll try and do everything we can to get a foothold in the Premier League and to enjoy it. The fanbase here is tremendous and if you have got them behind you, then you have a chance.”

Defensive improvements seem a certainty; Norwich finished top scorers in last season’s Championship but a glimpse at their Goals Against shows they also had one of the poorest defences, suggesting there should be plenty goals at either end of the pitch should the side continue its adventurous style of play, particularly at Carrow Road.

Here’s a look at the displays that saw them clinch a second-place finish and end the club’s six year top-flight exodus…

The Statistics

PWDLFAGDPCS
Total462315188358+258411
Home2313644730+17454
Away23109436288397

CS = Cleansheets

Norwich’s approach tends to work better at home, in terms of goal returns; they failed to find the net on only 2 occasions and scored two or more goals in 14 of their 23 games at Carrow Road. They are more prone to conceding at home, though; Norwich’s opponents scored two or more goals a total of nine times and, more alarmingly, Lambert’s side chalked up just four clean sheets in front of their own fans.

There’s a definite tendency to tighten up on the road; Norwich picked up seven clean sheets away from home and conceded two goals less, overall. Home teams may have scored two or more goals in 8 games but Norwich bettered that, scoring two or more 10 times. Only on three occasions did they fail to find the net on their travels, despite scoring 9 goals less than they did at home.

The Manager

Lambert made a somewhat inauspicious start to his managerial career at Livingston but, with years of experience from playing under the likes of Ottmar Hitzfeld at Borussia Dortmund and Martin O’Neill at Celtic, gradually found his feet as a boss. To his credit, Lambert has arrived in the Premier League the hard way, working his way up the lower leagues in England on shoestring budgets and his successes were rewarded with the LMA Championship Manager of the Year award last season.

Norwich tend to play with a narrow midfield diamond that allows Wes Hoolahan job of chief creator. The lack of width places an emphasis on full-backs Russell Martin and Marc Tierney to get forward and Norwich look to start attacks from the back through either of the pair. Lambert encourages his side to keep possession, suggesting they’re more craft and guile than sheer, brute force and such an ethos will be a welcome addition to the Premier League.

Norwich are also known for a never-say-die attitude, bourn of a fitness regime that saw them win a substantial number of points in the final fifteen minutes of games last season. As Lambert explains:

“We train at high intensity. My character is such that I hate getting beaten, and if you are, you go down fighting.”

The club’s subsequent promotion prompted star forward Grant Holt to sum up Lambert and the spirit he has instilled in the club best:

“The manager has been fantastic. He’s a motivator and has been great for us. We’ve worked hard, we’ve a great team spirit and a great desire. It’s a joy being with each other every day.”

The Promoted Squad:

Here’s the lowdown on the main men who helped Norwich achieve promotion last season:

John Ruddy (45 starts, 11 clean sheets) Missing just one league game all season, Ruddy picked up 11 clean sheets for the season and unless Lambert goes looking for a replacement with top-flight experience, will be the number one between the posts again.

Russell Martin (46 starts, 5 goals, 2 assists) The right-back was the only ever-present last season and is an integral member of the Norwich starting XI. Has a real eye for goal, too, finding the net five times in 2010/11.

Marc Tierney (14 starts, 2 sub apps) Signed by Lambert in the January transfer window from his old club Colchester, Tierney has wasted little time in making the left-back his own.

Adam Drury (19 starts, 1 sub app, 1 goal) The veteran was first-choice left-back until the arrival of Tierney and looks set to be a squad player in the upcoming campaign.

Zak Whitbread (20 starts, 2 sub apps, 1 goal)
Ruled out through injury for the first few months of last season, the centre half returned to establish himself as first-choice in the heart of the Norwich back-four.

Elliot Ward (39 starts, 1 goal)
Signed on a free transfer at the start of last season, Ward has firmly established himself as a first-choice centre-back for the Canaries. Missed games from mid-December to the end of January through injury, but was an ever-present, otherwise.

Leon Barnett (25 starts, 1 goal)
Signed on loan in August as defensive cover but was thrown into first-team duties due to injuries. Barnett impressed enough to earn a permanent contract in January but he then succumbed to injury himself and looks set to return to his role as back-up.

Andrew Surman (19 starts, 3 sub apps, 3 goals)
Signed from Wolves last June, the midfielder had a stop-start debut season for Norwich, with knee injuries plaguing his campaign. Lambert was keen to bring him to the club, so there’s a good chance of him cementing a first-team place when fully fit.

Andrew Crofts (44 starts, 8 goals, 6 assists)
The ex-Brighton captain was snapped up by Lambert in May last year and had a stand-out debut season for Norwich. Bombing forward from central midfield, Crofts gets involved in plenty goalmouth action and should grab a handful of goals next season.

Wes Hoolahan (36 starts, 5 sub apps. 10 goals, 9 assists)
Hoolahan is the playmaker at the tip of the Norwich midfield diamond, with the system set up to make the most of his creative talents. Takes most free-kicks and was the club’s first choice for penalty duties, but a couple of missed efforts last season saw him hand penalty duties over to Grant Holt.

David Fox (30 starts, 2 sub apps, 1 goal)
Another player snapped up from Colchester, Fox was on Man United’s books as a youngster and has represented England at youth level. A first-team regular in midfield but his goal returns offer little Fantasy potential.

Korey Smith (19 starts, 9 sub apps. 2 assists)
It’s doubtful whether the midfielder will be anything more than a squad player. Either way, Smith is not the type of player to find his way into many Fantasy squads, offering little goal threat or creativity.

Simon Lappin (20 starts, 7 sub apps. 3 assists)
Was a more prominent member of the first-team the season before last, though Lappin’s appearances were cut short in February when appendicitis ruled him out for a number of weeks. Another midfielder who should cause minimal Fantasy interest.

Simeon Jackson (20 starts, 19 sub apps. 13 goals, 2 assists)
The Canadian forward was signed from Gillingham last July and proved to be a real asset, grabbing some crucial goals for the Canaries; his run of nine in seven games towards the tail end of the season helped Norwich clinch promotion. Looked likely to partner Holt up front but the signing of James Vaughan from Everton now calls that into question.

Chris Martin (21 starts, 9 sub apps, 4 goals)
The striker looks to have slid down the pecking order of late, with both James Vaughan and Simeon Jackson likely to feature in the side ahead of Martin. He could yet force his way into the side if Norwich start to struggle for goals.

Grant Holt (44 starts, 1 sub app, 21 goals, 14 assists)
Player of the Year for Norwich last season, much will depend on Holt’s ability to deal with a step up in class. He’s scored 45 goals in the last two campaigns and will be Lambert’s number one striker, despite never playing at the highest level before. Norwich’s season will rely on his goals more than ever this time round. Expect Holt to give Kevin Davies a close run for Most Fouls by a forward next term; he made 103 last season.

The Potential Targets

Regardless of who ends up at Carrow Road, it’s fairly certain Lambert’s eye for a bargain and unwillingness to fork out huge wages will shape the club’s recruitment drive over the summer, with low-key captures more in line with the Norwich boss’ acquisition policy. Lambert was well aware of the need to add to his squad, admitting after clinching promotion:

“It is not going to be easy, but we have to try to give the current group a hand. Now we can try our best to get players in. We want to try and make this club the best it can possibly be. We will try and do everything we can to get a foothold in the Premier League and to enjoy it.

He wasted little time in identifying a weakness up front, with James Vaughan already moving from Everton as his first signing of the close season. The Norwich boss was keen to point out Vaughan’s top-flight experience as a fundamental factor in the deal, suggesting this may be a policy the Canaries revisit over the next few months:

“I think the great thing about him is he has played at Premiership level before, he knows what it is all about, he is only 22 and hopefully his best years are in front of him. That is the beauty about him – he has done it at that level, he knows what it is, he just has to be consistent with it.”

Lambert has since added another forward to his squad, with the capture of Millwall’s Steve Morison for an undisclosed fee. Having already had two or three bids for the player’s services rejected, Lambert showed a determination to get his man and Morrison -who bagged 17 goals in the Championship last term- also handed in an official transfer request in order to quicken up the move.

The Canaries have also bid for Leeds winger Robert Snodgrass rejected in the few days or so, but Lambert seems set to return with an improved offer for his compatriot. Meanwhile there are reports that a bid for Brighton’s assist machine Elliot Bennett has been accepted with the winger set to join the Carrow Road revolution.

There will be plenty more names linked with the club throughout the season, with Lambert’s German connections even bringing the name of Miroslav Klose to the fore, though the Norwich boss laughed off the rumour as nothing more than media speculation.

Peterborough’s Craig Mikail-Smith scored 35 times last season and, out of contract this summer, has already been linked with a move to the Premier League, with Posh boss Darren Ferguson confirming there is definite top-flight interest.

Hull’s Jimmy Bullard has been linked with a move, despite playing for arch-rivals Ipswich on loan at the end of last season. Bullard’s previous Premier League experience certainly fits the bill, though his current £45K per week will be a stumbling block. Man United’s Darron Gibson and Danny Guthrie of Newcastle are both out of favour at their respective clubs and could revive their careers with a move to Carrow Road.

Henri Lansbury‘s successful spell last term has prompted suggestions Lambert may be ready to ask Arsene Wenger for a season-long loan this time round; with Wenger keen to see his youngsters pick up vital experience, there’s every possibility this move could happen.

With 58 goals conceded in a lesser league last season, tightening up at the back will be a priority and Newcastle goalkeeper Fraser Forster has experience of playing at Norwich under Lambert, with a loan spell two seasons ago. Forster spent last season on loan at Celtic and with a job on his hands to win the Newcastle keeper’s jersey from Steve Harper and Tim Krul, has been linked with a return to the Canaries, either on loan or on a permanent basis. Man United defender Ritchie de Laet is another who has been linked with a temporary move, having impressed while on loan at Portsmouth last term.

Lambert does tend to make most of his signings early in the summer, though, which will hopefully put paid to months of endless speculation between now and the end of August.

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744 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Cracking article - cheers, Sir Paulos! 🙂

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    1. Christina.
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      13 years, 14 days ago

      How you doing MMW? Can we expect less transfers and a higher overall ranking from you this year?

      😀

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        13 years, 14 days ago

        Same transfers minus 11, ranking tbc. How much I'm about depends on the level of negative comment ... 🙂

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      2. Fratboy
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        13 years, 14 days ago

        hoping to halve mine haha

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  2. Boom!!!
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    interesting,they have 4 cs at home and 7 away...they are b'pool in disguise 😉

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      13 years, 14 days ago

      No defenders from Norwich, then ... except maybe a right-back ... 😉

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    2. Christina.
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      13 years, 14 days ago

      +1

      Was just gonna type that. You beat me to it.

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  3. Fratboy
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    13 years, 14 days ago

    Interesting about Danny Graham, anyone catch many of his 24 goals? Is just a goal-hanger or is he decent?

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  4. Christina.
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    13 years, 14 days ago

    I need Ritchie de Laet to move to Norwich to make my team name work...

    Rush Ian Roo Laet FC

    😀

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  5. Christina.
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    13 years, 14 days ago

    MMW - you stil about?

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    1. Jafalad
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      13 years, 14 days ago

      Probably gone for his morning "tipple." 😉

      Wes Hoolahan: is this the new C. Adam?

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      1. Christina.
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        13 years, 14 days ago

        Looks like it. Hope he keeps peno duty.

        No mention of Angel Rangel from QPR?

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        1. Jafalad
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          13 years, 14 days ago

          Thought he was a swan?

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          1. Christina.
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            😳

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  6. Christina.
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    JKate - you on the Adel wagon from the start or are you waiting to first check out the new teams?

    I suppose his price is crucial.

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    1. Jafalad
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      13 years, 14 days ago

      Is this Taraabt?

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      1. Christina.
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        😉

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        1. Jafalad
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          13 years, 14 days ago

          There are two schools of thought:

          If he reproduces Championship form, then he will be a ff player. He's an played at international level so could handle the EPL.

          Of concern: may take a while to adapt and QPR could struggle. Playing against better defences and midfields are likely to limit scoring oppos.

          However new teams tend to start well so if you are going to invest, at the start of the season makes more sense.

          Adam took four games to make an impact so it might be worth waiting to see how he fares first. An interesting ff prospect regardless.

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  7. George Agdgdgwngo
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    13 years, 14 days ago

    Anyone playing the McDonalds U21 fantasy football, god its tough!

    I'm looking at Capel / Mata / Pekhart / Garmash, anyone got any tips?!

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    1. Jafalad
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      13 years, 14 days ago

      Tell me about it!

      The worst bit is the budget 🙁 I think they looked at last year's World Cup game and decided the 100 mill budgy was too generous.

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      1. George Agdgdgwngo
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        13 years, 14 days ago

        Crazy, tough getting Mata, Capel & Pekhart in their. I've done a little research and reckon Stepanenko & Yarmolenko (Ukraine) could be shouts.

        come on you must have some tips!

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        1. Jafalad
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          These guys have a few tips: https://betway.com/sports-betting#/soccer/international/int-uefa-u21-championship

          I've done some research myself. Pekhart is a good choice and is in line to be a rd 1 captain. His goal record is very good.

          Right now, I have laid off Spain and Sturridge apart, England.

          I'm trying to load my defence with uber cheap defenders from Switzerland, Czech and Denmark.

          Midfield/attack: go for Icelanders. Belurus look the weakest team in the competition and Iceland play them first up.

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          1. Boom!!!
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            +1 and if u want budget mid shaqiri from swiss is a good option as he is on set pieces and only priced at 5m...

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            1. George Agdgdgwngo
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              cheers for the tips guys!

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              1. Jafalad
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                13 years, 14 days ago

                Ukraine fwds may be a bit risky when they are up against the best defensive team in the tournament (Czech) and the two favourites, Spain and England.

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            2. Jafalad
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              13 years, 14 days ago

              It would be really handy to know who takes set plays for each team.

              What I've discovered:

              Pekhart is on pens for Czech; Bojan for Spain.

              Can you add any info Boom?

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              1. Demí
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                Mata for Spain i was told.

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                1. Jafalad
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                  Not sure. Bojan took a pen according to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_national_under-21_football_team

                  Could do with a list.

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              2. Boom!!!
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                13 years, 14 days ago

                Iceland - Gylfi Sigurdsson is on set pieces and Bjarni Vidarsson(C)/Rúrik Gíslason is on pens...
                Ukraine - Yevhen Konoplyanka is on pens and set pieces...
                England - Henderson is on set -pieces and Sturridge/Henderson is on pens...
                Denmark - Eriksen on set pieces and Bille/Jensen on pens...

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                1. Jafalad
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                  13 years, 14 days ago

                  Ha. Right on cue. Nice work Boomio 🙂

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                  1. Christina.
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                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Jafs/Boomie - you guys need to give it a rest. You will be burned out come FPL 2011/12

                    😀

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                2. Jafalad
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                  13 years, 14 days ago

                  Inze: we are professional ff players that have to make a living 😉

                  Besides, knowing the U21 players will help us win FPL next season 😉

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                  1. Boom!!!
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                    😀

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                  2. Christina.
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                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Whose your Inze? It's ChristIna.

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  8. Bouncebackability
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    There is no way Taraabt will be £5mill like Charlie Adam was. FPL Towers wouldn't allow it!

    I'm thinking 6 myself.

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    1. Boom!!!
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      yep around 5.5-6, not more than that....

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    2. Christina.
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      13 years, 14 days ago

      At 6 million(or less) there are bound to better(and proven) ff prospects.

      eg O'hara,Albrighton & Barton

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      1. Goose
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        13 years, 14 days ago

        I'm not going for the Taarabt purely on the fact that most of the big FFS bandwagons tend to end in disaster i.e. Boselli, Kolarov etc. In going for more proven players if I can as I started with at least 4 players who hadn't played in the Prem the season before.

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        1. Soop
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          13 years, 14 days ago

          I'm fairly certain that no player from a newly promoted side has been more than 5.5m.

          Example, Shola Ameobi is a known quantity, but I doubt he was more than 5.5

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          1. Bouncebackability
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            13 years, 14 days ago

            I hear ya Soop. I'd put a fair wage on him being either 5.5 or 6 but they may break with tradition here as he has the X Factor that others coming up didn't have.

            However, I wouldn't be surprised if he was a huge flop this year. It is all wel and good being a show pony in the Championship, and sure, he will conjure up the odd flash of brilliance, but there was a reason Spurs let him go.

            Having said that, in terms of fantasy prospects, he is the star man in the XI like Adam was. Any game QPR draw or win he is bound to attract the bonus judges attention.

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            1. Soop
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              Yep, it's always good to have the focal point of a team, even if it's a crap team.

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            2. Goose
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              I don't no a lot about how Taarabt plays but the sort of positions I imagine he takes up, like off the front man, theirs a lot of good DM in the Prem who I think would be able to cope with him, Adam played a lot deeper meaning he saw a lot of the ball which helped gain Baps. I worry about his attitude too.

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              1. Soop
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                13 years, 14 days ago

                I reckon he's gonna be cheap enough to fill a gap and bench if necessary.

                I really hope N'zog goes to a more attacking side.

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                1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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                  13 years, 14 days ago

                  Wasn't Gary Mcsheffery £6.5 m a few years ago with a similar record in the Championship in Brum's promotion season? I think he was loaned out after half a season in the Premier League.

                  I'm not discounting Taarabt, but when asking "who is this year's Charlie Adam?", you should also ask "who is this year's Graham Dorrans?". Or even "who is this year's Andy Carroll?".

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                  1. Soop
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                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Yeah, that's very true, but I don't think it's so clear cut.

                    and besides, I'm not even thinking about it too much yet, It's a waste of time to make a team before injuries and transfers.

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        2. Bouncebackability
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          13 years, 14 days ago

          I don't know what you are talking about Goose. Kolarov as a huge success for me. Err.. 🙂

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          1. Goose
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            Their seems to always be an inevitable failure about bandwagons on here, not blaming anyone as it's up to the individual to decide on the merits of each but the fact I started last season with Jara, Van Damme, Gohouri, Petrov, Arteta, Boselli & Zigic was a bit OTT on the bandwagons 😉

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            1. Bouncebackability
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              13 years, 14 days ago

              That is a bit harsh on Arteta!

              I had Boselli too - And although he turned out to be a flop I don't think there was anything wrong with a punt on him, he had a good record after all, it just depended on him adapting to the English game quickly. One or two punts is OK but you did seem to go all out!

              However, if you look at a lot of Gameweek 1 teams I am sure many would squirm looking at them now, I know I do mine.

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              1. Goose
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                Mine was horrible 😉 Cole, Malouda & Drogba saved me week 1!

                I dont mean Arteta was a bad player, it was just he had a decent end to the season before and then became a bit of a "must have" for the next season. Again tho I'm not blaming anyone for my mistakes, think I just got caught up in it all!

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              2. Soop
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                13 years, 14 days ago

                not at all, for a player of Arteta's calibre, he underperformed massively.

                Good thing is, he should be cheap this year. Based on returns, a lot of good pleyers who underperformed should be good.

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                1. Soop
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                  13 years, 14 days ago

                  *cheap, sorry.

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                  1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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                    Yeah, Arteta had been a star for a couple of seasons.

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    1. Boom!!!
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      13 years, 14 days ago

      🙂

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    2. Soop
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      13 years, 14 days ago

      Why not? Although I'd have said Arsenal would probably be a better fit.

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      1. More Cowbell
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        Was really going for the play on Torres there Soop, but fair point! 🙂

        I'll never forget the day I saw the headline on Ceefax (sigh..) 'Leeds Sign Raúl'. Turned out it was Raúl Bravo. How my heart sank...

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        1. Soop
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          13 years, 14 days ago

          Oh, that totally went over my head :S

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  9. TommyK
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    13 years, 14 days ago

    Radio 5 live: A senior source at the Turkish football federation has accepted that Hiddink will leave to take up a coaching position at Chelsea this summer.

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  10. Bob.
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    13 years, 14 days ago

    Top goal in europe this year? I voted for Poyets one! Cant describe how difficult that technique is! Beautiful goal. I especially liked Hazard and Guarins strikes too 🙂

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/poll/2011/jun/06/european-goal-of-the-season-poll

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    1. Fratboy
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      13 years, 14 days ago

      you've just wasted my entire morning of work!

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      1. Bob.
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        13 years, 14 days ago

        Haha yeah there are a lot of nice goals to get through! sorry 😉

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        1. Bouncebackability
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          13 years, 14 days ago

          I bet Dean Furman of Oldham is absolutely loving this poll! His name is just under Messi's!

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  11. Bouncebackability
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    13 years, 14 days ago

    Where Charlie Adam exactly ends up nobody knows as yet, but it is surely Premiership bound.

    How much would he be at either Liverpool, United or Spurs? I'm going around the 7/7.5 mark and wouldn't touch him at a bigger club. Although if he went to Spurs he may be on pens whereas he wouldn't be at United or 'Pool.

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    1. Goose
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      Spurs maybe, can't see him at Liverpool or United, think we dodged a bullet not getting him in January, he should just go play regularly for mid table side.

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      1. Bouncebackability
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        You do? I remain undecided on that one, depends how much he'd cost.

        But would you spend £18.5mill on Jordan Henderson? I thought we were just using that as a smokescreen for others but maybe not..

        Not much talk about Scott Dann from anyone, I know he was injured for the latter half of the season, but I wouldn't mind him coming to Anfield.

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        1. Goose
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          13 years, 14 days ago

          The Henderson rumour is very worrying, hell of a lot of money that for someone of his limited qualities! The Carroll fee was huge but was kind of understandable with Torres fee etc but that would be way too much.

          I was talking to my mate a Birmingham fan at the weekend and what he said made sense in terms of him being injured, teams might let him see how he comes back after injury and then look to get him in Janurary as that's what happened with them with Upson last time they went down.

          I'd be happy with Nzogbia at the right price.

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          1. Demí
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            13 years, 14 days ago

            Did you hear about downing coming too, for potentially 10-12m

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            1. Goose
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              Much rather Nzogbia for about 9m which they are apparently quoting.

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              1. Boom!!!
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                13 years, 14 days ago

                n'zog is available for 9m for a top4 club...sorry goose 😉

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                1. Goose
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                  Boooo!

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                  1. Bouncebackability
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                    I wouldn't mind a bit of Insomnia either, 9mill isn't a bad price these days. Entering the last year of his contract I think as well.

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  12. Soop
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    13 years, 14 days ago

    Hey, RE the Giggs news today.

    Reckon someone got him confused with Gerrard last year? Sounds very similar.

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  13. Soop
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Tch. Trying to find a decent sodlering iron that doesn't cost a bunch, but that has a powered desoldering pump.

    My last soldering iron (fiver from toolstation) has all but packed up. It's shit, but you get what you pay for.

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  14. Fratboy
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Hey Goose you gonna lump any money on Hiddink to secure a profit for Chelsea manager?

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      I'd whack a bit on it right now if i could.

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      1. Fratboy
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        Yeah I put £20 on Villas Boas last week when the rumour was semi-strong, now I've put £40 on Hiddink, should give me about £15 back lol

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        1. Goose
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          Ahh right, don't tend to do stuff like that but guess it makes sense, already put some on Hiddink, might look to put more on I guess.

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          1. Fratboy
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            not that I'm trying to encourage you! This is one of the few bets I've ever made, just makes sense to me that's all! Just looks 90% certain that he'll join....

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            1. Kings of Lyon ★
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              What are the odds on hiddink at present? if i can get it at better than 1/2 ill put it on after work

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              1. Fratboy
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                10/11 so not great 😕

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              2. Bubbles
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                Victor Chandler are the best at the moment, 8/11.

                http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/chelsea-specials/next-permanent-manager

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                1. Kings of Lyon ★
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 14 days ago

                  cheers for this, im in work so all gambling sites are banned.

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            2. IAmTheWalrus
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              Yea but if he joins in this director of football role, do you lose your money?

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              1. Fratboy
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                not sure....I'll just watch my account lol

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  15. AP
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Naaaaaaaaaaarich. Boo.

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  16. Demí
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Javier Hernandez with a hat-trick in the Gold cup last night for Mexico.

    For anyone interested, here's the goals:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/8558894/Manchester-Uniteds-Javier-Hernandez-score-hat-trick-in-Mexicos-5-0-annihilation-of-El-Salvador.html

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    1. Soop
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Can't believe Man U got him when they did. Signing of the season my ass - he's up there as one of the best signings of all time.

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      1. Fratboy
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        🙂

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      2. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        You should see what its like in Mexico Soop. They've signed one top class striker and 110 million fanatical fans.

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      3. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        I hope, really hope you have your tongue firmly in your cheek there Soop.
        Jeezas!

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        1. Goose
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          +1 AtB

          Waaaaayy too early to be saying things like that!

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        2. Soop
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          Dude, if They wanted to sell him right now, they could probably get 50m from him. And he's probably going to stay for years, and he's a perfect fit, and he's still only about 23.

          IMO, so far he's up there with RVP and Sjolskar

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          1. Boom!!!
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            chicharito worth 50m 🙄

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            1. Soop
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              Hey - I didn't say that he was worth 50m - I said they could probably sell him for that much. They won't though.

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              1. Attila the Bum
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                They wont because no-one would pay that.
                Well maybe Liverpool - but they are mental 😛

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          2. Marknlard
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            Hold on to your hat. No one would pay £50m for him this summer, and if you're saying one of the best signings of all time then that equates fairly well to being one of the best players of all time. He's good and may well become a great player, but he's not gonna be THAT good...

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            1. Soop
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              I dunno - think about it, we've seen what he's capable of already in terms of sheer natural talent and instinct, and now he's at Man U, who are very good at developing players.

              Of course I should point out that this is just opinion still, and backed up by very little knowledge...

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          3. TO
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            "so far he’s up there with RVP"
            Joke of the Day. No comparison dude

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          4. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            HE HAS PLAYED ONE SEASON!!!!
            No doubt he looks an amazing prospect, a pure goalhound in the vein of Gary Lineker. But again, its ONE SEASON! His all round play is undeveloped as yet, yes he may get better or he may get a couple of bad injuries and lose his acceleration which would leave him pretty limited.
            Best signings of all time? Pure hyperbole. Save that kind of chat until he is in his 30's with hundreds of goals and trophies behind him.
            £6m was a bargain this season, lets see how he gets on. If you want to talk best signings ever RVP wouldn't be up there either, arguably Solskjaer wouldnt as well. Though Ole Gunnar has more of a case.
            Peter Schmeichel £530k - thats a signing. Five Premier League titles, three FA Cups, one League Cup, and the UEFA Champions League.

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            1. Soop
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              yeah, ok, but you can't just go back in time and say George best was great because he cost a shilling and a bag of chips.

              RVP cost about a million or something.

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              1. Attila the Bum
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                £3m actually to be pedantic. But as much as I'm not allowed to point out a better Premier League signing (not first division as George Best was), then you cannot say something as broad and daft as "best signing of ALL TIME". How can you say all time and then discount the signing of Schmeichel? The signing Ferguson said was the "bargain of the century"?
                Hernandez was arguably the premier league signing of this season. He was in my opinion anyway. He wasnt the best signing of the season overall though Cavani joining Napoli would get that.

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                1. Attila the Bum
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 14 days ago

                  Oh and you brought up Ole Gunnar Solskjaer for f***s sake Soop! Why is that fine, but Schmichael not? Be consistent please.

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                  1. Soop
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Woah there!

                    I'm not saying you can't use him as an example, but you're justification is based soley on price. You have to accept that players transfer fees have skyrocketed exponentially, right?

                    So when you say yes, Schmichael is a good example but RVP isn't, and then you bring price up as a factor, it doesn't fit.

                    All your other reasons are valid.

                    I hope you're not actually too put out about this, maybe we should change the subject...

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                  2. Attila the Bum
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    No the RVP bit was not about price. Its about the limited success he has had. He's been riddled by injuries but he is a capable player. I dont think even ardent Gooners would call RVP in the best signings of all time list.
                    I'm not put out, but I thought your comment was worth a bit of a counterpoint.

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                  3. Attila the Bum
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Oh and £550k was an absolute bargain then when he signed. Hence the bargain of the century bit from Fergie, so relatively speaking by todays standards he would have been around £3 - 5 million ish at most.

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                  4. Marknlard
                    • 15 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Even at the time, Schmeichel's price was ridiculously low compared to the market. That's the point, not the price itself.

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                  5. Soop
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Ok, I'm willing to accept I'm wrong then, I'm not the most savvy about these matters, and when this many people disagree, they're usually right.

                    *Shakes hands*

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              2. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                Best signing....Sean "Crocodile" Dundee by Liverpool.

                😀

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                1. Attila the Bum
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 14 days ago

                  Best for lulz certainly. Although I am tickled by them paying £120k per week to Jovanovic, only found that out t'other day. 😆

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                  1. Bubbles
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    WHAT. THE. F*CK?! Jovanovic is on £120k/week?! That CANNOT be true.

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                  2. Goose
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Nice parting gift from Rafa that! 🙁

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                  3. Bubbles
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Holy shit-bags! That's beyond mental.

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                  4. Soop
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    I told you - he was out to sabotage Liverpool.

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            2. Boom!!!
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              a rare +1 for u attila 😉

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              1. Attila the Bum
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                I'll treasure it always Boom 🙂

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        3. TommyK
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          Pffft- Hernandez is waaaaay better than Shearer to Newcastle... 😉

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            Lulz.
            That signing was the best ever for only one reason - he told United to f*** off! 😛

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      4. TO
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        and wenger went for Vela

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    2. IAmTheWalrus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      colour me interested!

      cheers demi

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    3. Bubbles
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Oh, lovely penalty to finish it off. Great stuff.

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  17. IAmTheWalrus
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    anyone know any good flash games?

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    1. IAmTheWalrus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      sick of jumpers for goalposts 3

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    2. Soop
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Ooh, shopping cart hero is amazing.

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      1. IAmTheWalrus
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        just playing a game of poker, il check it out then tho!

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        1. Soop
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          It's brilliant, You get a mental score when you can afford 2 groupies in your cart and when you have the rockets.

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  18. AP
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Whats that website where you can check the starting formations of games that have been played. Lorcano linked it a few months back....?

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  19. Soop
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Other news - Kaka is alledgedly surplus to requirements at Real - anyone in the PL he'd go to?

    Venkys Rovers will probably pay through the nose for him.

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    1. Soop
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      A poultry amount...

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  20. Demí
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Watford confirm they have accepted a £3.5m bid from Swansea for striker Danny Graham

    http://twitter.com/SkySportsMobile/status/77678775164338176

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    1. Marknlard
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Very strange, as he apparently has a £2m release clause.

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      1. Bubbles
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        He can't have. QPR had a £2.5M bid for him rejected, apparently.

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  21. IAmTheWalrus
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Im bored so lets engage in a bit of transfer muppetry

    who will they sign?

    Arsenal: Sakho,
    Chelsea: Neymar,
    Liverpool: Enrique, Adam
    United: Modric, Varane, Young

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    1. Soop
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Not gonna involve Manchester City? Or is there a word limit on these posts? 😛

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      1. IAmTheWalrus
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        Only thinking about the big teams 😛

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    2. TO
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Sakho is very possible[He is French and wants to play for arsenal] Would prefer we get a PL defender though

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      1. IAmTheWalrus
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        He looks quality , so young and captain of PSG...hel do big things wherever he goes.
        PL defender is a short term solution in my eyes, sakho could be that leader at the back ye require and can play lb with ease too

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        1. TO
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          Seen him play twice and i like him because he's got the strength and he is a no nonsense defender, exactly what arsenal needs but as i said i dont mind a quality defender who's got the PL experience. Unfortunately wenger cannot afford the top ones

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    3. Demí
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Arsenal: Gervinho, Samba
      Chelsea: Neymar, Lukaku
      Liverpool: Downing, Henderson & Enrique
      United: Modric, Varane, Young & De Gea,

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      1. IAmTheWalrus
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        I think i agree with yours more then, 4got de gea completely!

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    4. TO
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      United: Denilson & Bendtner

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      1. Boom!!!
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        +1 and we need almunia as our new no.1 keeper as well 😉

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  22. Attila the Bum
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Love the way Newcastle are buying another Taylor. We're collecting them.

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      team of ameobi's and taylor's 😀

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        Wish we still had Lomana Lua Lua and Tomi Ameobi, - then we'd have 2 Lua Luas, 3 Ameobis and 3 Taylors. Make it easier to pick what name to put on the shirt. 😉

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    2. Demí
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      the next Perch for sure

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    3. Fratboy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      hahaha, love it 🙂

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  23. Soop
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    I had this yesterday, it was fantastic http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/mackerelontoastwiths_90005

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Putrid.

      E-Coli may be coming your way.

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  24. Demí
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    WayneRooney Wayne Rooney :
    Hi all there's my head. It will take a few months to grow. Still a bit bloody to. But that's all normal. #hairwego yfrog.com/gznpmbtj

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    1. Attila the Bum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Gibberish from Shrek.

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  25. Fratboy
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Seems that paddypower have removed the chelsea manager bet, that seems like a good sign 🙂

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    1. Bubbles
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Jeez, that's gone quick. I posted above to KoL, Hiddink could still have been had at 8/11 (only about 15 minutes ago), now the odds have plummeted. Looks like he's the man.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        bugger, i wish they allowed betting in my work 🙁

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        1. Fratboy
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          Sorry KOL, maybe we can work out some paypal thing for me to lay bets for you 😉

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          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            Hahah, yeah that would work ;), I was going to fire a ton it as well, ahh well.

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      2. Fratboy
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        I got 10/11 🙂 slightly better profit! Wish I'd put more on it now, but £40 is already way above any amount I've ever bet....

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  26. Demí
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 14 days ago

    Wolves have agreed a deal to sign Jamie O'Hara from Tottenham for £5 million

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      😯 Kosher, Demi?

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        Definitely.

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    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      This is the year I'm putting him in my fpl side. Promise.

      Missed out on his points when he was at Pompey and Wolves on loan.

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        Lots of good cheapie midfielders this season I think. Ben Arfa and Cabaye (I'm biased), O'Hara, Pennant, Taarabt etc

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          I think I willl go for 3 or 4 cheap mids with a really strong front 3. Obviously fixtures dependant.

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            I'm going to invest more in the defence I think, and triple up on the best defence with the best fixtures. Suarez, RVP are definitely on the radar too.

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          2. Goose
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            +1 KOL

            Lots of good striking options with the players doing it from the second half of the season i.e. Suarez RVP Hernandez and loads who had poor post World Cup seasons who will inevitably come strong next season I.e. Torres Rooney

            Add that too the fact the usual big price mids aren't quite as good an option I.e. Gerrard or might be leaving I.e. Fabregas then the cheaper mids look more appealing.

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            1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              I'm not sure you even need 3 or 4 cheap mids. As soon as you stop worrying about how to crowbar two 12m mids and a big striker into the same squad you find yourself with huge amounts of money to play with.

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              1. Goose
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                Yep, personally my team I imagine will have the rough make up of:

                Top 6/High Price GK + 4m GK
                High Price DF + Mid Price DF + 3 Cheapies
                Mid to High Price MF + 4 Mid/Low Price MFs
                3 High Price SKs

                At rough guesses at players in those catergories I should be able to afford that.

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                1. Kings of Lyon ★
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 14 days ago

                  Same here Goose.

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                  1. Goose
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Breaking the trend of rotating keepers too? I'd rather just have a Hart, Reina etc and play them every week, seemed to pick the wrong keeper in rotating too often last season. I like the thought of not having to worry about picking which keeper to play each week.

                    In terms of the keeper & high price defender, they may even be from the same team if fixtures are kind for a particular team.

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        2. @ImpressiveTackl
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          You really love Ben Arfa don't you?

          Has he played enough to facilitate this kind of unconditional love?

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            Unconditional love? Hardly, he looks a cracking player from his brief spell before De Jong mashed him. Pardew has said he will play up front behind the main striker (whoever that will be remains to be seen). A skilful forward with set pieces who will be an OOP midfielder might well be FPL gold. He has the makings of a bonus magnet too.
            If the fixtures are rotten, if he is classed as a forward not a midfielder, if he isnt fully recovered from his injury, if Cabaye gets all the set pieces then I wont be picking him.

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            1. @ImpressiveTackl
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              My apologies.

              It appears your love him is very conditional. 😛

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            2. AP
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              1 game is a bit much to get so excited about, but he did score a cracking goal. Imagine what you'd be like if he got 20 in his debut season 😛 . Think i'll be taking a punt on him even though he's still inexperienced. Cabaye - no chance, no tried or tested in the premier league. Shades of Jiminez, Boletti etc etc.

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              1. AP
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                Boselli*

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    3. AP
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Great player, great price. Shame he's in the wolves team though.

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        What you make of this Nasri to United story then AP? Just fantasy?

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        1. AP
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          He just wants more money from Arsenal, which he'll get eventually. They wouldn't sell him to Utd for all the baguettes in france. Which is good because we don't need him. (I guess he could play in the giggs position - but bleeeeeh)

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          1. TommyK
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            Didn't realise you were at the cricket yesterday.

            Bloody English weather. 😡

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            1. AP
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              Tell me about it. Got a full morning session but after lunch was a wash out.

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              1. TommyK
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 14 days ago

                At least we saw England get twice as many wickets as yesterday 😉

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                1. TommyK
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 14 days ago

                  *On Saturday

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                  1. AP
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    Broad's bowling was dreadful! Maybe Jamsiep was right after all.*

                    *Glad he's in africa so can't see that/=.

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                  2. TommyK
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 14 days ago

                    TBF, none of our bowlers covered themselves in glory. Broad did beat the bat a few times, but like the rest of our attack couldn't really find a consistent line.

                    It's annyoing they went off when they did as finn and tremlett were just starting to look a bit dangerous....

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          2. Goose
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            What, hanging out the back of Imogen? 😉

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          3. @ImpressiveTackl
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 14 days ago

            Who do we need AP?

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            1. Demí
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              Modric

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            2. AP
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 14 days ago

              De Gea, Modric, GOTZE!

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        2. TommyK
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 14 days ago

          I hope it is- would much prefer Modric.

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    4. Fratboy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Quite surprising really, especially with all the Modric rumours flying around...

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    1. Soop
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Because his agent gets a massive fee every time his clients move teams.

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    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Becoz he is going to Chelsea.

      😉

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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      He may have looked at that Fulham squad and thought there's not much better he can do with it than what he done this year.

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      😯 😉

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    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      Yeah, he always cums good.

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      1. TO
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        🙂

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    1. Soop
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      WOW. Incredible is right!

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 14 days ago

        Wow, I reckon im going to make the first one my wallpaper. Outstanding.

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    2. Fratboy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 14 days ago

      those are badass

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