The Knee Jerk

The Knee Jerk – Robin Red Faced

“He is an exceptional player and when you feed him in the box, he’s deadly.”

You see, we kind of knew all that. We realised that, against Blackburn, particularly a Blackburn reduced to ten men after half an hour, Van Persie had the tools to destroy them and deliver massive returns. The problem Mr Wenger, is that on Friday afternoon you uttered this…

“I will rotate a little bit because many players have given a lot…[With Van Persie] the temptation is there.”

That was news to us Fantasy managers. That put the frighteners on and, despite our attempt this morning to deconstruct that statement and put up arguments against the idea of resting Van Persie, some took action. Indeed, two of the top four ranked Fantasy Premier League managers opted to give the armband to Sergio Aguero – perhaps oblivious to Wenger’s threats, but more likely as a result of them.

The very idea of us, a site dedicated to passing information to Fantasy Football managers, ignoring the quotes from Wenger was never a viable option. We turned a blind eye to Friday’s Sun report, but when Wenger speaks, we had to report it. So, to counter that, in this morning’s Preamble, we stressed the need to keep faith with Van Persie and hope that Wenger resisted the gamble. Hopefully, that helped some in their decision to sit tight.

Is there a lesson to be learned? Certainly the fact that Van Persie remained on the pitch to provide an assist to Thierry Henry with the score at 6-1, indicates that the idea of resting Van Persie didn’t cross Wenger’s mind once the goals started flowing. Had Van Persie been tiring, had he been desperate for a break – why was he left on the pitch when the match was dead and buried?

Only Wenger has the answers, and it seems we’ll never quite work out his thinking when it comes to Van Persie. With the Champions League programme looming, we can surely expect more uncertainly, perhaps some smokescreens.

However, today surely confirmed that we can ill afford to take risks with Van Persie and the armband. There is no better Fantasy damage dealer and if there’s a chance that he will be on the pitch, particularly against abject opposition, we have to back him. That policy may cost us – there may well be occasions when Van Persie will be left fidgeting on the bench whilst sporting our armbands. The question is, will those who suffer that fate feel any worse that those who missed out on today’s incredible haul? Right now, in this Knee Jerk, it seems unlikely.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. mufc802
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Very easy transfer Walters to Sigurdsson. Now need to see if Ba is still in form tomorrow and might get him in.

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    1. Fabreghastly
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      He'll go up in price before then

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  2. Essan
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    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Drogba makes up and scores

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      as far as i can see there's no minus points for missed penalties. thank god as i've had 2 today

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      1. iCon
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Likewise, and both have gone on to redeem themselves 🙂

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  3. Soccer Brah
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    72 pre bonus with Bale, Valencia and Simpson left. I'd have taken that before today but something makes me feel with RVP captained left right and centre what would be a decent score is now just 'good'! Double edged sword!

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    1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I reckon it's still a very good score. Think average will be mid forties. Remember, less than 37% have RVP and even less will have captained him.

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        But of the currently active players, around 90% have him, and around 75% of those will have captained him.

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    2. Bad Pen
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Better to be in the group that scored well than the group that didn't.

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  4. RotatingRafa
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    12 years, 3 months ago

    Balotelli did some sort of magic tricks in the lounge! Got to love the guy! 🙂

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  5. Hate that rotation
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    So annoyed with Huth transfer. Took a hit to bring in Ba too. I usually preach the dont take a hit for a defender. Bah!

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    1. Somalion
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      No, it's Ba. He doesn't use the French pronunciation so he drops the H.

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  6. Manchester Red
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    7
    9 1 evans
    6 3 bale valencia
    40 9 keane

    = 75
    how yours?

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      your heading for a 100 point week

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      1. Declan-
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        "you're"

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      2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        78 with Valencia and Simpson to come

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  7. Granville
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    No way is that a penalty. AJ just stuck his leg out in order to catch Baird.

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Exactly. He kicked Baird's foot if anything.

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    2. applebonkers
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      yep, it's the leg fish invented by robert pires. mike dean tried but couldn't resist

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      1. Granville
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        That's what I was thinking, Robert Pires created an invincible with that leg.

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    3. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I agree, very soft penalty

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    4. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Agreed... But Silva should have been given one..

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      1. Granville
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Absolutely, Etuhu too him out.

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    5. Tim Canterbury
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      looked like one to me. took his legs from under him in the process of bringing his leg back

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  8. mclaren
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    62 points - 5 to play. At least 9 bonus points also on the way.

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  9. Back on the horse
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Richards wc debut, success

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Nice!

      Choosing Kompany in my GW23 WC is the only thing that hasn't worked out so far. But other than that I'm happy with doing it in 23 not 24.

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    2. For Fuchs Sake
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Me too! Shame I had Huth and Cisse as part of my WC though :-/

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  10. andy85wsm
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    I imagine there's been a lot of tears on here today given the results.

    Did anyone manage to get a lot of points today?

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Nice name 🙁

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      1. andy85wsm
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Andy?

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      72 points, and that was with Cisse

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    3. J0E
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Lol

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    4. Tim Canterbury
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      have you actually read any posts?? Every tom dick and 'arry had a field day

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      1. andy85wsm
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        They did? Surprising.

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    5. fatherted
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      67(-4) with Williamson Bale Ba Jevans Valencia + plenty baps. First 100+ of the year surely???

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      1. andy85wsm
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Maybe. I suppose RVP starting the week off with a guaranteed 46 makes it much more likely. Last time I thought I was going to hit 100 after a Saturday I only ended up on about 70ish

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        1. fatherted
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          I know, but some may have been put off with the "rotation "risk and failure weds. Well that's what I am telling myself

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  11. Tim Canterbury
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Just to counter all the smug twats: 38 with Ciise captain, double swansea defence, kompany injured and minge face on the bench. But I enjoyed the footie

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I feel your pain. I only had

      RVP (c).

      Aguero.

      McClean.

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      1. Jake Donahue
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        only?

        RVP (C) was enough

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      2. Viper
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        57 with baps to come not including all your other 1 & 2 pointers..

        Thats good, wouldn't describe it as 'only'

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        1. tangtastic
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          *facepalm*

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      12 years, 3 months ago

      lol who is minge face?

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  12. Art Vandelay
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Strangely content with 60 plus santon, bale and Sturbridge. No Rvp (c) and Huth.

    Come on Sturridge. Only differential left and his last appearance.

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  13. viewoftheland
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Right, I need a Morison exit strategy. I've 0.2 in the bank, and aiming for Ba ideally, but maybe Cisse (NEW) and Zamora could also be options.

    Where to make my savings, that is my only quandry

    Vorm Krul
    Kompany Enrique Kelly Santon JEvans
    Silva Valencia Sess Dempsey Bale
    RVP Aguero Morison

    The most obvious move is Sess -> McClean, but I reckon Sess is going to be the more consistent over time. Or Valencia > Sigurdsonn, as Man U's fixtures stiffen, but I'll want him back GW28, and hes currently in brilliant form.

    Anyone got any bright ideas?

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      could drop vorm cuz you already have krul. or enrique if you had to. or would kompany to richards give you enough?

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      1. viewoftheland
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Na, need to raise about 2.0m. Could go Kompany to a budget, but leaves my defence a bit flimsy. Can't make enough savings out of keepers to do it, and I love my (FFS standard) midfield. Argh.

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  14. tw
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    walters owners what are you doing? keeping for the next 3 weeks or getting rid? if getting rid who are you looking at, ox? sidgurdsson?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I got rid in WC. Remember how bad Stoke can be after Europa League games + he's now moved to midfield I think.

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    2. lazybones18
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      i got rid for sidgurdsson just now

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    3. Le Bluff
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Getting rid. Him playing in midfield today was the final nail in the coffin! Looking to do Walters and Sess > McClean and Dempsey.

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      1. luke
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        have a hatchet job called Shotton to do before i deal with walters

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    4. iCon
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Think i'll jump ship - Siggy looks a possibility and frees up some cash too; anyone any other options?

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  15. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    ok folks what should I do with Cisse? Should I make the transfer now before Bobby goes up or hold off until Tuesday? The rise would not put him out of reach, and wouldn't this game week as he won't go past 7.

    Graham, Papiss, Rodallega, Gabby and Keane also on the watchlist (Demba is sadly out of reach)

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  16. Ghost
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Kevin Keegan on diving - "Adam Johnson not that kind of player" Haha.

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  17. applebonkers
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    micah richards doesn't half look like a donut with the ball at times

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Like he was running through snowy treacle towards the end.

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  18. lazybones18
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    i panicked after looking at BA prise rise.. took a 4 point hit to bring in BA and and Siss for walters and Fletcher.. good decision ?

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    1. Screaming Midget
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Agreed.

      Not horrific, just damage limitation.

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      1. Hazard267
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Yup what you get

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  19. blind faith
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    my mids = bale, silva, dempsey, sess, mclean

    am i crazy considering dempsey > sigurdsson and using that money to upgrade my defence?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Dempsey is captain material next week.

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      1. blind faith
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        so maybe next week mclean or sess > siggy

        cos lets face it, he's class and cheap!

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          yeah lose one of the Sunderland boys

          I'd get him but my mid is McLean, Bale, Silva, Valencia, Dempsey

          Plus I have a small gerbil problem to take care of.

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        2. Declan-
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          as is mcclea

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  20. Miro
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Best replacement for Gerrard for the next few games? Silva no brainer right? Any other suggestions ?

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  21. BLitZ MaFiA SQuAD
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    The Preamble article was the reason why i took the risk on RVP, and paid huge dividends :D. Thanks FF Scout

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  22. tangtastic
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    McClean OUT
    Sigg IN

    Sigg (c) at home to Norwich. Roll on gw 25!

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Interesting...

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      1. tangtastic
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Its not a kneejerk.. planned it and will follow through.

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        1. tangtastic
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          ... intention is to rotate around that budget midfield option around fixtures. Players in consideration being:

          Sigg
          McClean
          Moses
          Morrison

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    2. Mull
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Punt o'clock.

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      1. tangtastic
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Desperate times Mull

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  23. McDog
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone else joining the Sigurdsson bandwagon this week?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      hmm, not with a mid of Bale, Silva, Valencia, Dempsey and McLean. If he rotated with McLean I'd consider it.

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Already got him, on the bench though 🙁

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      1. McDog
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Unlucky. He should bring in some more points though with Norwich and Wigan in the next 3.

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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          12 years, 3 months ago

          Hopefully 🙂

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  24. Pinturicchio
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    12 years, 3 months ago

    With RVP and Kun scoring high, the average will be about 55?!

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    1. Screaming Midget
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Early 50s.

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    2. Declan-
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      low 40's

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    3. little_wizard123
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Nowhere near 55. Spurs, Liverpool, Utd and Chelsea haven't played yet. 40's, for sure.

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  25. @FuzzyWarbles
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    someone please break it to me, i cant bear to figure it out, Cisse and Huth killed me.

    27k rank, 59 points, bps from rvp (c), aguero, maybe richards? with santon and bale only left.

    Any shot at a red arrow?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      A chance of green.

      I'm ranked inside 500 and I have 52... I'm guaranteed a red one.

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    2. Laserface
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      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Still green imo

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  26. ۩۞۩Tommo727™۩۞۩
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Any possible chance of Bale being rested or Spurs game called off? I captained Bale because of threat of Van Persie being rested but I have Persie as vice?

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  27. Rinseboy
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    even though Aguerro scored , tempted to swap him out next week! but who for (got RVP).....!

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    1. A2U
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Why would you do that with his upcoming fixtures and return to form?

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  28. zyad947
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Possible replacements for Huth and Fletcher.
    2 free transfers and 1 m in bank!
    I was thinking about Cahill and Ba, but Newcastle next game is away to Tottenham and still not sure that Cahill will be starting.
    Some ideas please.

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    1. A2U
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      See if Huth's red card gets rescinded first. Fletcher to Ba after next week looks good

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      1. zyad947
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        But needs 0.4m more to be able to afford Ba. That's why should do 2 transfers.

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  29. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Chelsea are looking at the possibilty of postponing tomorrows game.. Apparently there is 1/2 inch of snow around the ground...

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    1. Screaming Midget
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Good... I hope they do.

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    2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I would love that.

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      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      bloody hope so, have mclean first in line on the bench

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    4. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      they pulled that stunt a couple of years ago as I recall. Also coincided with injuries and suspensions then.

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    5. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      mcclean instead of valencia. Not sure if i want that. Valencia could run riot against chelsea

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