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Projecting Value – Goalkeepers

Having rolled out a Selection Guide to Goalkeepers earlier this afternoon, we now switch focus to the Members Projections for our search for the men between the sticks. While Joe Hart predictably sits out on top, we focus on value in this first Members article, examining those keepers who are expected to deliver the best points per million ratio for the season and the first six Gameweeks…

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★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
11 years, 10 months ago
So, how likely is this Cazorla to Arsenal move to go through?
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1. NotoriousDRE
  11 years, 10 months ago
  he wants to...but malaga ownership is up in the air. They may have new owners soon. This may delay his transfer.
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Soggy Cabbage
11 years, 10 months ago
Any Liverpool defenders a good bet? With Brendan Rogers as manager they might have a decent defence.
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  I'd say the full backs would be a good punt, particularly Enrique.
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Clintymints
11 years, 10 months ago
Has Ivan played RB for Chelski yet pre-season!?

for the first few friendlies he was a bit awol

any more news on 'em?
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  not a good preseason for him, looks massively unfit. I'm avoiding Chelsea DEF and gone for Cech instead of DDG and Federici
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  1. Clintymints
    11 years, 10 months ago
    Just going for cole myself cba with the nonsense that will ensue with that chelski defender shizzle
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Dark_Mata
11 years, 10 months ago
fellas, is this just too light up front and too DEF heavy? 2 gambles AND torres?
Damn all this chopping and changing.

Cech (Cerny)
Gorkss, Vertonghen, Verm (Rafael, Fabio)
Hazard (Bale Wk2), Siggy, Kags, Yaya, (Maloney)
Lambert, Petric, Torres (c)
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1. Deicide
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Maybe Federici for Cerny?., Federici has DGW.
  
  I like your midfield. But your attack looks a bit weak.
  
  7.
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    so does Cech...
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2. isacki: full casual
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Vert and Verm were in my first RMT this season cos they looked so awesome. Your mid, defence and GK is surprisingly strong. I'd definitely switch Lambert for Graham to make it more credible up front. I'd also look at downgrading Yaya to a hot 7.0 like Sinclair or 6.5 like Pienaar as Yaya plays deep too often
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isacki: full casual
11 years, 10 months ago
Seriously thinking of biting the bullet and going for extreme valour given that I'll probably end up needing the wildcard no matter what team I pick. Flair or nowhere!

Dodging Chelsea midfield coverage entirely in favour of the champions slaughtering the newbies...
PS: yes I am hedging my bets on Nelsen. He has history playing under Hughes. Dawson is rumoured to be next Spurs captain.

Federici Jaaskelainen
Cole Dawson Cuellar Fonte Nelsen
Silva Kagawa Michu Hoilett Maloney
Torres Aguero Tevez
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Dawson may be the next Spurs (c) but will he get picked against the better (IMO) CB's of Vertonghen and Kaboul?
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  1. isacki: full casual
    11 years, 10 months ago
    You don't usually bench your captain. I was with Kaboul initially but getting a picture he is not the favourite anymore.
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    1. Test Eagles
      11 years, 10 months ago
      Barton?
      
      Oh yeah, that wasn't a sub was it 🙂
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2. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  ...otherwise, I admise your spunk! nice team, although Tevez and Aggy might be a bit heavy come GW 2 - keep .5 in the bank for Roonpig?
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3. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  I also think, just for GW 1 you need either Torres or Hazard (or Oscar?)
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  1. isacki: full casual
    11 years, 10 months ago
    So I've got Torres and Cole and am unwilling to touch their poisonous midfield - also very unconvinced by Hazard! Am definitely toying with keeping 0.5 to go Aguero > Rooney...
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    1. Dark_Mata
      11 years, 10 months ago
      really nice mate, its a good team, Dawson rotation aside.
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4. McDog
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Yeah i'm not convinced Dawson will start for us, I still think Kaboul will get the nod. I don't think Nelson will start either though i'm less sure on that one. Nice team otherwise. Surprisingly good considering your heavy forward line.
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  1. isacki: full casual
    11 years, 10 months ago
    Haha and the reason it's survived the forward line is because I've almost killed the defence! I just find the Dawson situation strange. I really rate Kaboul but can't understand why AVB would make a bit part player captain. He also surely won't want to rotate CBs.
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Deicide
11 years, 10 months ago
RMT

Dgea Federici

Hangeland Lescott Cuellar (Fabio, Clyne)

Siggurdson Hazard Tarabt Larsson (Noble)

Graham Aguero Torres

Suggestions?
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  rate mine first 😉
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  1. Deicide
    11 years, 10 months ago
    Done 😛
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2. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Taraabt good shout, could be a good season for him. I think there are better options than Graham, and I prefer Maloney to Noble, but thats just me i think. Not sure on your DEF, could be a lot of goals, or could be a rotational goal leaking mare
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Mull
11 years, 10 months ago
Which players in the game would you be happy about captaining against any opposition? I can only think of 3; RVP, Rooney and Aguero. Anyone else you'd add to that list?
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  I wouldn't, but I suspect this season you'll be adding Torres to the list.
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2. ★FC Borecelona★
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Hmm... I can't think of any more
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Dark_Mata
11 years, 10 months ago
if you abandon trends and pick the worst bench possible its possible to pick a ridiculously good (on paper) team
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1. Mull
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Have a play around.
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Dark_Mata
11 years, 10 months ago
It is possible to pick a goal scoring machine like this:

Federici
Fonte Verm Vertonghen
Siggy Yaya Hazard Kagawa Michu
Tevez Torres

with total shite on the bench...
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1. Mull
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Verm to Clichy
  Vertonghen to Cole
  Federici to Friedel
  Try and get Pogrebnyak in for the 4.5 forward and it isn't a bad team.
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2. Matt
  11 years, 10 months ago
  i'm going to have a go, see what i can come up with
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3. Cruicky
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Your bench must be awful if you plan to play Fonte...
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    ha ha. yeah. its only a make believe team, my real one does have rather more depth.
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4. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  i'm just looking at goals, hence Verm and Vert over Clichy and Cole. My actual team isnt too far from this, although I'm lacking Aguero or Tevez which might be a mistake :S
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  1. Hubert
    11 years, 10 months ago
    No Terry? Equal top goal scoring defender last season with Verm (6 a piece).
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Matt
11 years, 10 months ago
karlosii i think i can get it a bit better:

Friedel
Hangeland Lescott Cashley
Kagawa Dempsey Pienaar Siggy
Tevez Torres Ba
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  ha ha, nice. Ba is a bit too uncertain and Cashley is in a leaky defence and offers less than usual going forward, still prefer mine :-p
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Dark_Mata
11 years, 10 months ago
Cech (Cerny)
Gorkss, Vertonghen, Verm (Demel, Fabio)
Hazard Siggy Kags Yaya Michu
Petric Torres (c) (Lambert)
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  how do I get Tevez or Aguero into this?!
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    also the Q for me is, is Aguero better than Petric AND Lambert (who rotate reasonably well)
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    1. aflickering
      11 years, 10 months ago
      way better!!!
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      1. Dark_Mata
        11 years, 10 months ago
        thanks mate 🙂
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  2. Matt
    11 years, 10 months ago
    Yaya > Noble
    Petric > Tevez 🙂
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  3. Cruicky
    11 years, 10 months ago
    Yaya to Maloney and Lambert to Tevez?
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2. Ryan
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Drop Yaya for Noble and upgrade one of your strikers to Tevez. Rest of the team is good
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fitzy
11 years, 10 months ago
Siggy + Tevez
Aguero + Pienaar
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1. aflickering
  11 years, 10 months ago
  B but i don't like either non-city choices really... prefer n'zogbia or lamps for example
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  1. aflickering
    11 years, 10 months ago
    if siggy was nailed on i'd go for it but VDV makes it awkward.
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    1. Dark_Mata
      11 years, 10 months ago
      siggy will start every game, just look at his goal scoring history. theres a reason VDV has been totuted as moving on. Siggy preseason and last season has been immense.
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      1. aflickering
        11 years, 10 months ago
        avb has committed to VDV, saying he's an essential part of his plans, so no, not necessarily. VDV has a fantastic scoring history BTW, and sigurdsson hasn't even had a full season in the prem...
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  2. Matt
    11 years, 10 months ago
    Pienaar will rip up the league this season IMO. silly not to pick him
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    1. Dark_Mata
      11 years, 10 months ago
      not sure, even when he was great a couple years back, his returns weren't that spectacular. you might be right though, hes a good price. For 6.5 I prefer Michu I think.
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      1. aflickering
        11 years, 10 months ago
        yeah that was my worry with pienaar. never been much of an fpl success.
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2. Ryan
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Tevez + Pienaar. Save yourself 2.5m
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iLA
11 years, 10 months ago
Anyone have Swansea's lineup?
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  sorry, no.
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GreennRed
11 years, 10 months ago
Surfer Rosa, nearly there yet so far away -

Federici,
Hughes, Fabio, Lescott
Hazard, Michu, Bale, Toure
Torres, Petric, Tevez

Mignolet, Pienaar, Clark, Fabio
Please advise 🙂
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  spectacular (how the hell did you afford that?!)
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    (apart from hughes...)
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2. Switchfoot4
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Having 2 Fabio's is sure to help as well 🙂
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    a cunning plan.
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  2. Ryan
    11 years, 10 months ago
    I'm guessing one is Rafael
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3. Ryan
  11 years, 10 months ago
  I'm not really a fan of Toure because he often plays in fairly defensive positions. I like the punt on Petric and the rest of your team is sound. Not sure that particular keeper option is the best but I like the originality there.
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    Mignolet could be a good bet with O'Neil strengthening his DEF
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    1. Ryan
      11 years, 10 months ago
      Fair point that.
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  2. GreennRed
    11 years, 10 months ago
    I checked on Federici, Reading were pretty good defensively but Championship to PL is like stepping up from PL to CL. He'll do ok. Had Jaaskelainen so now have West Ham, WBA or Wigan 4.5m defender instead of Hughes. But apparently Hughes is nailed on, someone advise please? Clark, Tevez, not nailed on. I posted a team yesterday with 2 Rafaels, so hard to tell them apart!
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    1. Ryan
      11 years, 10 months ago
      Yeah I just swapped Jaas to Federici as well, West Ham have been dire in pre season.
      
      I'd say Hughes and Clark aren't nailed on so chances are one of them will be and the other won't be. A bit risky having both imo. If you can afford the extra 0.5 for Hangeland he would be a much safer bet and he offers an attacking threat. There might be more nailed on Villa defenders out there as well.
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Ryan
11 years, 10 months ago
Recent changes regarding Mr Pienaar and Sigurdson has brought me to a new line up.

I still plan on holding back 3.5m in case I chose to upgrade Tevez or Torres to Rooney.

DDG, Federici

Cole, Hangeland, Rangel, Fabio, Clyne

Noble, Taarabt, Pienaar, Hazard, Siggy/VDV

Torres, Tevez, Graham

3.5m bank

Thoughts on this team and the plan I have in mind?
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  too much in bank and not sure Graham will have the season he had last year. better options there IMO. Nice rotation options tho. not bad.
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  1. Ryan
    11 years, 10 months ago
    The bank is so I can get Rooney in GW2 and to enable other upgrades as certain must have players present themselves. Its a very specific tactic I'm keen to try out.
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    1. Dark_Mata
      11 years, 10 months ago
      cool, as long as there's a plan
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IberiaBallers
11 years, 10 months ago
How do you guys think Jon Walters will do this season? He seems like a decent option for the midfield.
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  bleugh.
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    (sorry, couldnt resist).
    
    I don't think he'll have another season like his good one, better options at that price. If you want to gamble (which I think Walters is, look at Anderson, Michu, Maloney, Pienaar, Taraabt, all underpriced IMO)
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    1. Dark_Mata
      11 years, 10 months ago
      ...or Noble...
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      1. IberiaBallers
        11 years, 10 months ago
        what do you think the starting center back pairing for Chelsea will be? Terry/Luiz, Terry/Cahill, or Luiz/Cahill?
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aflickering
11 years, 10 months ago
just as a follow up about VDV vs. sigurdsson.

in the premier league VDV has scored a point every 13.6 minutes, sigurdsson every 14.7. nailed on? not a chance.
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  that stat is based on VDV having less pitch time than most., he's aging and theres a new manager trying to move him on.
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  1. aflickering
    11 years, 10 months ago
    he's had over 4 times more pitch time than sigurdsson though? and he's 29, arguably at his peak. and he's probably not going anywhere, as avb specifically said he's essential to his plans.
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    1. aflickering
      11 years, 10 months ago
      although there have been plenty of rumours, i'll grant you
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2. aflickering
  11 years, 10 months ago
  and i know it was in a weaker team, but that doesn't always mean anything; if anything that just makes it riskier, he could easily fare less well in a different system. swansea's system really suited a player in that kind of role IMO. in theory so could AVB's, but still...
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    i agree with you there. I think at 9 Siggy is a risky prospect. AVB's teams don't tend to score many...
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  2. beachsherrill
    11 years, 10 months ago
    Just back from Spurs/Bulls. Sigs didn't really create much in midfield but took a lot of good corners, assisted off one, and later had a slick move in the box for a goal against the Red Bull reserves. There was however one Spurs midfielder who looked pretty good tonight.
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3. Ryan
  11 years, 10 months ago
  When VDV comes back from injury I'd expect him to go straight back into the starting lineup. It'd be interesting to see how that affects Siggy's output.
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  1. aflickering
    11 years, 10 months ago
    it'll be verrrry interesting if he tries to accommodate both, maybe playing VDV as an inside forward on the right of a front 3 for example.
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    1. Dark_Mata
      11 years, 10 months ago
      2 behind 1 striker? VDV on the wing?
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      1. Ryan
        11 years, 10 months ago
        VDV hates the wing and isn't particularly good at tracking back. I can't imagine AVB playing him out there.
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        aflickering
        11 years, 10 months ago
        i agree, i think he's crap out there TBH, but i wasn't expecting VDV to be in AVB's plans at all, so his statements to the contrary surprised me a little.
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        aflickering
        11 years, 10 months ago
        my main worry i suppose is that siggy isn't exactly AVB's transfer, as they were chasing him before he was hired...
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        Switchfoot4
        11 years, 10 months ago
        Bale is a much safer option, nailed on and more dangerous than both nowadays
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        Dark_Mata
        11 years, 10 months ago
        i think i agree with you, but go to Wiki and look up Sigg's track record, goals per game. its quite impressive.
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        Ryan
        11 years, 10 months ago
        Fair point that. Last year Siggy was popular because he was so cheap but with the prices almost identical surely Bale is a better option. Personally I'm a big fan of VDV because he usually plays off the striker. The key though is whether he is fit enough because he is a brilliant player when 100% but not so much when at 80%
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4. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  opta point or FF point? I'm not sure managers look at FF points... although some should try!
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  1. aflickering
    11 years, 10 months ago
    sorry i meant fpl points 😛
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lfcserg
11 years, 10 months ago
RMT

Friedel - Federici
Clichy - Williams - Ivanovic - Clyne - Gunter
Silva - Hazard - Sinclair - Maloney - Frei
Aguero - Torres - Pog

2.0m left over for torres -> rooney
gwk 3 hazard -> bale
gwk 4 cole -> vertonghen

Any suggestions I'm strongly considering getting petric or graham instead of pog. I want to downgrade sinclair to fund this move, however I'm not sure which 6.0m mid to pick.
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  i had Pog but lost him purely because he wont score against Chelsea.
  
  MF's look at Anderson, Michu, Maloney, Noble, Pienaar, Taraabt, all underpriced IMO
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2. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Silva AND Hazard has a nice look to it. just can't afford Silva so went Yaya
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3. Ryan
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Consider Taraabt as a 6m option.
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4. Saint & Reevesy
  11 years, 10 months ago
  I like the idea of Michu and the swans have a nice early run of fixtures, but how nailed on is Michu to play in the hole?
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    I'd say hes a shoe in, Allen leaving and he's mates with the gaffer
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    1. Saint & Reevesy
      11 years, 10 months ago
      what about De Guzman...he's new and played that position in pre season?
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      1. Ryan
        11 years, 10 months ago
        In the last pre season game Michu was in the hole with De Guzman at CM I think
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Dark_Mata
11 years, 10 months ago
anyone looking at Ben Arfa?
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1. Manani
  11 years, 10 months ago
  too expensive
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    looked very good end of last season and he's 1.5 cheaper than siggy
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    1. Manani
      11 years, 10 months ago
      hard to fit into my team, with my stunning strikeforce
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2. Ryan
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Yeah one for the watch list. Still wary of his temperament and ability to get offside with the manager. Newcastle's tough start is enough to put me off for now.
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    yeah, agree there.
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Dark_Mata
11 years, 10 months ago
I find a good way to build a team is to make changes and hit transfer. if the ins dont match the outs hit cancel. progress until no ins are better than outs. although i expect you've all figured that out already...
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1. Ryan
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Yep. Recently did N'Zogbia to Pienaar. No brainer that one once his transfer to Everton was confirmed.
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    ha ha, easy choice. But is he better than Michu. I think both are good value.
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    1. Saint & Reevesy
      11 years, 10 months ago
      Got both in my midfield too.... Pienaar is class and Michu is 6 foot 2 and should adapt to the perimership quickly......
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  2. Manani
    11 years, 10 months ago
    thought about pineear then switched to Michu, better fixture, and everton always start slow.
    Not to mention Michu's goal scoring potential
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    1. Ryan
      11 years, 10 months ago
      I'm considering Michu in instead of Taarabt due to Ramadan. Will wait and see on further evidence of form.
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      1. Dark_Mata
        11 years, 10 months ago
        Ramadan is tough, cant see how athletes cope with it.
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      2. Saint & Reevesy
        11 years, 10 months ago
        Factoring in Religious festivals....now thats detail
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        Ryan
        11 years, 10 months ago
        I remember how crap Ba was at the start of last season. Could easily happen to Taraabt who may be affected even more because he is a midfielder and is expected to run a lot more than a striker.
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Dark_Mata
11 years, 10 months ago
Cole, Friedel, Federici or Vertonghen, Cech, Cerny?
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Dark_Mata
11 years, 10 months ago
'Tonghen scores a LOT
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beachsherrill
11 years, 10 months ago
Noble or Maloney? Thoughts on Guthrie at 4.5?
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  guthrie will get you 2pts per game.
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  1. beachsherrill
    11 years, 10 months ago
    Hoping for a bit more from the midfield. Thx
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  2. Saint & Reevesy
    11 years, 10 months ago
    Assuming he doest get a yellow 🙂
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    1. Dark_Mata
      11 years, 10 months ago
      or come off the bench,
      AND get yellow.
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2. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Maloney for me by a mile. He's playing OOP. Noble is on Pens but cant see WH scoring too many, even if they do land Caroll.
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Saint & Reevesy
11 years, 10 months ago
Anybody tempted to include west ham defenders as a budget option....there fitures are kind early doors?

if so who...?
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1. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Demel, Got.
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  1. Matt
    11 years, 10 months ago
    same
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Ryan
11 years, 10 months ago
Just had a thought regarding United's defence for the first few games. A current CB crisis could see Jones and Vidic together at CB. With Rafael also away with the Brazil squad at the Olympics he may not start at the beginning of the season. This could mean Valencia playing at RB with Young and Nani on the wings
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1. Ryan
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Sorry Ferdinand not Vidic
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2. Dark_Mata
  11 years, 10 months ago
  almost certainly for first game. plus Vidic has a knee issue.
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  1. Dark_Mata
    11 years, 10 months ago
    plus ferdinand is old.... 😉
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Dark_Mata
11 years, 10 months ago
Bale, Cole, Friedel, Federici
or
Siggy, Vertonghen, Cech, Cerny?
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1. Matt
  11 years, 10 months ago
  First one fersure
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2. Ryan
  11 years, 10 months ago
  For me thats too close to call. I'd maybe go for the first one but its close
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romeo03
11 years, 10 months ago
RMT pls

federici (rudd)

cole jones hangeland (stam)

kagawa silva dempsey hazard (britton, barnet)

torres tevez pogrebnyak

THANKS
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1. Switchfoot4
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Having 6 midfielders definately makes it different??
  Barnet at the back maybe
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2. Matt
  11 years, 10 months ago
  Nice 6 mids and 4 defenders. *hint* Barnett is a defender
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3. Ryan
  11 years, 10 months ago
  I like the Jones punt but he may only be nailed on for the first few fixtures till people come back from injury and Rafael becomes available.
  
  Dempsey may not be available straight away either as transfer speculation may prevent him from starting for Fulham or if he has transferred to a new club he may be eased into the side. Consider a Spurs mid to replace him.
  
  Otherwise I like the idea of a strong starting 11 and a rubbish bench.
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Matt
11 years, 10 months ago
2 4.0 defenders that rotate well?
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Little Frank
11 years, 10 months ago
Morning all,

Here's my little lot:

DDG Federici
Cole Lescott Cuellar Demel Tierney (or other 4.0 def)
Silva Bale Pienaar Michu Noble
Bent Torres Petric

2.0 asside for the Torres -> Rooney switch in GW2

Originally had Ramires in for the DGW but with him being called up for the friendly v Sweden, I think there's a good chance he'll be rested for the first game. Also had Aguero in and out of my team but whenever he's in the rest of the team looks a bit underwhelming after downgrades to fit him in so I'm sticking with Silva as my Man City attacking coverage atm.

Anyway, thoughts?
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Kit Walker
11 years, 10 months ago
RMT Please

Federici - DDG
Cashley – Lescott – Jones – (Butterfield) – (Tierney)
Lampard – Young – Michu – Noble - (Maloney)
Aguero – Torres – Pog

2.0m left over for torres -> rooney
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