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Dugout Discussion August 18

Dugout Discussion – Sunday

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Sunday’s two matches get underway with a Selhurst Park encounter that finds Crystal Palace host Andre Villas-Boas’ Spurs. Two hours later, Chelsea start their double Gameweek with a home clash with Hull City as Fantasy mangers brace themselves for an avalanche of points.

The team news from Palace finds Ian Holloway keep the faith with much of the side that won promotion from the Championship. Holloway keeps the new boys on the bench, with Marouane Chamakh and Jose Campana in reserve while the likes of Aaron Wilbraham and Scott Dobbie are handed starts. New signing, Dwight Gayle, does get his Premier League debut up front, however.

Visitors Spurs are without Gareth Bale but can call on the services of Jan Vertonghen who is fit to line up alongside Michael Dawson in defence. Danny Rose gets the nod at left-back as expected. In midfield, Gylfi Sigurdsson looks to be starting in the Bale role, with Nacer Chadli given a debut on the left-flank. All eyes will be up front, however, as Roberto Soldado makes his first start following his £26 million move from Valencia.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open and will be available for those who fancy live chat during this match and into the tea-time clash at Stamford Bridge.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Sánchez
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    67 with Silva, Ivanovic, Lukaku and Hazard (c) to come.
    Will I break 100?

    Thinking not now. 🙁

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    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Same... But with Benteke instead of Ivanovic.

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      1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Reckon I'll outscore you :)? Ivan vs benteke.

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  2. PB-THE-VET
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Do chelsea need rooney? Surely just sell torres . . . . Massive team improvement in that move alone

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    1. Sleep Talk
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Torres is lost. They should play Lukaku as much as possible, he is their best striker.

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      1. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        He is lost mate, a shadow of his former self.

        Players need to be confident in the player leading the line to give him the ball and build attacks but it seems like Torres is shirking away from his responsibilities mainly due to a lack of confidence. He is finished imo. Time for a change.

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    2. Red5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I really don't think they'll win the league if Roman makes them carry Torres for another season.

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      1. PB-THE-VET
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Agreed! He is dragging team down. Great team with great talent and experience everywhere. Shame he ruins it

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  3. LewanGOALski
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Barca 4-0 after just 25mins

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    1. Seamy
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Scary. Who got the 1st two?

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      1. LewanGOALski
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Alexis and Messi

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    2. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      So boring

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  4. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Despite everything I said yesterday I think I'm going to WC.. Catch some price rises, City attack and start again 😀

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    1. Evs
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Don't, stand firm.

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    2. Chrissy Waddle - 2023/24
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      You've had a shocker no doubt, but a WC won't change that and it doesn't guarantee you points. See how you get on GW2.

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    3. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      ill probably be joining you

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    4. T C
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      At the very least wait until the beginning of the international break. If you catch the price risers it can take your team value up a bit by the end of it. Only worth doing if your team is a disaster though. See how next week goes first.

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  5. Alton E.
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Lewandowski scores when he wants.. Maybe he's playing for Bayern already? 😀

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  6. DRIZ ✅
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    soldado what a player

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  7. r0nh
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    So, no Chelsea strikers are worth getting.

    Probably the same applies to Man City strikers too.

    Barca now 4-0 up after 25 mins, most non-competitive league since Scottish football 🙄

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    1. Eboue
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Germany heading that way too .. 🙁

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    2. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Celtic settled the title at 15 clear the same week Man Utd did last year while at 16 clear I seem to recall.

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      1. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        That was one year.

        The Scottish league has been between 2 teams only for about 20 years.

        Only one team now.

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        1. PMC3
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          That doesn't make it less competitive. Before Rangers died our seasons regularly went down to the last day.

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          1. r0nh
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah but it was always the same 2 teams

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    3. Touré De Force
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Except Negredo may be awesome.

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    4. PMC3
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Last season point differences:

      Bundesliga: 25
      SPL: 16
      La Liga: 15
      Ligue 1: 12
      EPL: 11

      The SPL isn't even the worst.

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  8. winner
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    70 points with bonus points to come for Dawson, Soldado and Terry, plus Terry, Hazard captain and Silva to play, not bad?

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    1. Eboue
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      You know it is. Why ask 🙄

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    2. The EJJ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I hate these posts!

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    3. Godfather Bandit 42
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Nice but you haven't got a grav!!

      I win....

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  9. Snikiii
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Messi would do wonders for Arsenal, Wenger should consider him, atleast as a sub to Sanogo

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    1. bitterandstout
        10 years, 10 months ago

        would be just like wenger to put in another pointless bid for a player he cannot have any reasonable expectation signing.

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      BARCA cruising! -3 handicap was not so bad after all

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        not bad.. got a tenner on atletico madrid later. quietly confident.

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    3. arifv
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      how did soldado play?

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      1. Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        spurs didnt give him much of ball but when he had it he looked real class

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      2. Alton E.
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        He was okay. Should have had an assist. If only Siggy could finish..

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    4. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      hazard > michu anyone?

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      1. DietCoke
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Was thinking the exact same, actually.

        Was originally going for Hazard -> Walcott, but that's a no go now...

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        1. nevins84
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Why whats up with wally??

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          1. DietCoke
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Was pretty non-existant in Arsenal's game. Didn't really look that sharp and didn't perform well in what was suppose to be the easiest of their opening fixtures.

            Michu looks sexier right now.

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      2. Evans
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I would

        Think lamps is the better option or Oscar

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    5. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      lukaku > sturridge or soldado?

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      1. DRIZ ✅
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        soldado

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      2. Red5
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Sturridge I reckon.

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      3. Trilogist
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Soldado

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      4. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Hard.

        Soldado didn't look good. But mainly due to crystal stacking behind the ball.

        Sturridge will score in future. But harder fixtures?

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      5. Konig Luther
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        thanks all

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    6. Touré De Force
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Shearer needs to put on a penalty school for some of the current day peno takers. Blast it high, into the keepers top right hand corner.

      Unstoppable.

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      1. DRIZ ✅
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Shearer has missed few pens whereas Lambert has not missed one.

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      2. Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Ballo and matt le tissier should show them

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      3. Sánchez
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Balotelli is king of pens

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        1. Touré De Force
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Ballo is quality to be fair. He slots them with disdain for the opposition keeper.

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    7. Chrissy Waddle - 2023/24
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Can see why Fabregas wanted to stay with Barca. Must be a great confidence booster to play against such fodder every week.

      4-0 after 25 mins is strangely boring to watch.

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      1. TheSteel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Theyll hammer madrid all year too

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        1. Kagawa-san-mia
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          i think madrid is stronger this year, think they will win the league

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        2. F is for
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          If Madrid get Bale then not a chance. Bale and Ronaldo would destroy Barca, especially with Modric, Ozil and Isco spraying ball after ball through to them!

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    8. Bambi
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Best Lukaku Replacement. i already have soldado and benteke;

      A) Bony
      B) Lambert
      C) Welbeck

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      1. DietCoke
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Lambert.

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      2. Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Lambert then benteke to bony gw3

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      3. DRIZ ✅
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Lamb

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      4. div
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        C could be a good choice but a gamble...

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      5. Red5
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Bony if you can't afford Sturridge.

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        1. Alton E.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Already has Coutinho though..

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          1. Red5
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Irrelevant, unless you've hit the limit on L'Pool players.

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      6. Alton E.
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        In the same boat. I'm goin Lambo. Just hoping Osvaldo doesn't join..

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    9. div
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Is Razvan Rat likely to be a first team regular for WHU or is he second choice?

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      1. DietCoke
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Just get Reid.

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          +1.. gonna be a bap king

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        2. div
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Cannot afford Reid, he is 5.7m while Rat is 4.7m on Sky.

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          1. DietCoke
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            My apologies. Assumed it was for FPL.

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      2. Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        he didnt play the idiot everyone on this site told me he was nailed 🙁

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        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I didn't. But sure I hardly know you 😉

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      3. Touré De Force
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Just get O'Brien. Said it from day 1 on here and got slated.

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    10. Mak_Gold
        10 years, 10 months ago

        A) Ivan -> Coleman/Zab

        B) Lukaku -> Lambert.

        If A, then which one?

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        1. DRIZ ✅
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          b

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        2. DietCoke
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I'd do B.

          I'm glad everybody now realizes how much of a waste Lukaku was for their FPL teams.

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          1. Mak_Gold
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Cheers both.

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        3. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Can a players Opta BPS score change post-match or is it finalised on the final whistle?

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          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Change

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            1. GreennRed
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Cheers.

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        4. SW6
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          A lot of people have said Swansea were rubbish yesterday, but I think Michu looked very lively. Maybe there's value in him still.

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          1. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            He's quality, end of.

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          2. DietCoke
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Of course there is value. He was against United and still did a pretty decent job.

            Thinking of picking him up with my free transfer.

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          3. Parm
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Swansea really missed de Guzman yesterday, Canas isn't as good a ball players as he is.

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          4. Evans
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I've got him ... And I'm a Cardiff supporter

            He will get goals my only concern about the swans is Europa league

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        5. Parm
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Osvaldo set to complete his medical ahead Southampton tomorrow for £17.5m, another big coup for the South Coast side. Strong squad now, top 10 imo.

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          1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Going Down: Rodriguez and Lambert

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          2. Count of Monte Hristo
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            They will do what wba did in the first half of last season.

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          3. PMC3
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            How the hell can Southampton afford to pay that kind of money?

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            1. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              BT Sport 25mil windfall probably. Same reason Spurs have spent 57m coz technically only 32m from their own coffers (hence why I don't think it's the 'Bale money' everyone seems to think it is...

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        6. La Vida Latte
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Hazard & Lukaku -> RvP & Barkley for a 4p hit? Or should I just wait a week and do it for free?

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          1. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Do it now if you've an extra 1m and avoid possible price rise and get Van Persie and Barkley rises onboard.

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            1. La Vida Latte
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Thanks! I got 2m extra, so I could wait. Or I could get a 5,5m mid. I want one that rotates well with Kim (Cardiff). Who would you suggest?

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              1. GreennRed
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                I shipped Oscar and Lukaku plus 2m. Got RVP but had Danny Murphy's words ringing in my ear, talking Kasami up. Looked a good plan at 6:30 this morning, now I know he's a sub for Ruiz.

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          2. DRIZ ✅
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            wait a week. awful doing hits now.

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        7. You've got red on you.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I will wait until after tomorrow's game but which City defender to get in for Ivan?

          Was thinking Zab.

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          1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Fans on the City forums are split as to whether he'll keep his place - Richards is lurking. Clichy looks safer. Kompany obviously really safe but a little more expensive.

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          2. DRIZ ✅
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Zab/lescott

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          3. Touré De Force
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Kompany might turn out to be serious value.

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        8. Valar(Keith)
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Markets not as volatile as last year.. players still below 50 %.. maybe the gen pop has learned not to kneejerk and raise prices :can only hope:

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          1. DRIZ ✅
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Maybe its still early days

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          2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            No one has really stood out (bar Coleman (grrrr) and Whittaker (lol)). RVP is too expensive for mass transfers, and already has a high ownership anyway

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          3. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Threshold is higher, more players.

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            1. Valar(Keith)
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              ah.. bodes well for this season then. every season i have a fear fpl will change the formula and ctc wont catch it and we'll all be blind to price rises/falls

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          4. Red5
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            There will be after Chelsea's second game. A lot of people will WC.

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          5. SPorting
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Most players chosen by the casuals did well so they're not jerking new players in.

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        9. TheSteel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Im thinking if Walcott>Silva. If he starts and pulls strings, sound move?

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          1. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Not based on one match each. Walcott will still get a better share of goals than Silva I'd say and Silva has more competition in that City squad.Hard to tell what Pelelgrini will do.

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          2. Red5
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            No. He will start and he will pull strings, but goals are what you want out.

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        10. Fin
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Will I pull the trigger on a Ivan -> Nasty?

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          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Will you?

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        11. Bring on the shots
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          8-0 was the last result at Chelsea against Aston Villa...

          Reading some comments on here at least wait until the end of the scoring week because saying how bad it is :/

          I can't wait for Monday and even more so Wednesday 🙂

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          1. MJ6987
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Won't be 8-0 with Mouriho. Get their nose in front then sit on it.

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          2. Touré De Force
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Villa will give Chelsea a real game Wednedsday night. Wait and see. Villa will be a top 10 outfit this season.

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          3. Red5
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Chelsea were incredibly negative in the second half today.

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        12. QPR expects... glory!
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Great debate of our times re-opened after GW1:)

          RVP + £5.0 4th midfielder
          vs
          any combination of semi-expensive midfielder midfielder and semi-expensive striker (plus money used elsewhere) up to the value of £19.0

          GW1 score

          RVP 12 pts
          Any other £5.0 with > 1% ownership 3 pts (max)
          Total = 15 pts (max)
          £19.0 spent
          Pts per £1.0 = 0.789

          My combination was Soldado & Oscar with £1.5m saved for Citeh striker GW2 to replace Lukaku post DGW

          Soldado 9 pts
          Oscar 11pts
          Total = 20 pts (min)
          £18.0m spent
          Pts per £1.0 = 1.111 (min)

          Those also without RVP, how did your combination(s) work out this week?

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          1. MJ6987
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Hazard 3 Oscar 11 Walcott 2 Mirallas 2
            RVP 12 Lukaku 1 Dzeko ?

            Not sure how I classify my team. Think my set up is different to most.

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            1. QPR expects... glory!
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              It is a little different but that may well work in your favour. Do you plan on keeping 3 Chelsea next week, dropping to two or taking a hit and going with one with an eye on the fixture list?

              I am debating the possibility of doubling up on Citeh for the next two GW's (Silva or Navas/Negredo or Dzeko) and keeping Oscar over Hazard.

              Thoughts?

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          2. Alton E.
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Not that good. Still not even considering him. Which is good. #StickWithThePlan

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          3. UnderstandablyDistraught
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            You have conveniently ignored Barkley.

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            1. QPR expects... glory!
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              How many people who had him actually played him?

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          4. DietCoke
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Strike force: Soldado, Benteke, Lambert

            Points: 26 + Benteke against Chelsea

            Need RVP? Nah.

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        13. Chrissy Waddle - 2023/24
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Hoping Nasty is back next week.

          Ivan -> Nasty and Lukaku -> Sturridge 😎

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          1. Sheffield Rules
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            How's your GW1 going so far?

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        14. Sicaholic
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          hazard (c) + coutinho + walcott + mirallas = 13
          shaw = 12

          why is he on my bench......

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