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The Digest – Gameweek 6

We take our final glance at Gameweek 6 and, in doing so, have little option but to hail the resurgence of a certain Belgian gun for hire. Elsewhere, we note how Steve Clarke’s last-minute summer shopping spree continues to boost the Baggies, while examining how the relentless consistency of Aaron Ramsey and Ross Barkley is causing consternation amongst those yet to join their club.

The Player

Up until Monday night, Luis Suarez was unquestionably the player causing the biggest stir amongst Fantasy managers. It’s typical of a turbulent season, however, that, 24-hours later, another striker would come to the fore and have us re-assessing the view of our “most-wanted”. Romelu Lukaku’s brace and assist in Everton’s 3-2 win over Newcastle undoubtedly lifts him into that bracket, challenging for a place in our three-man forward lines along with Suarez, Daniel Sturridge, Olivier Giroud and Wayne Rooney.

Ironically, Lukaku started the season as a hot property. Having starred in Chelsea’s summer friendlies, he looked primed to earn starts and return profit over their Gameweek 1 double fixture but, as it transpired, Lukaku’s pre-season efforts were in vain. With Fernando Torres, rested after his Confederations Cup exploits, he was duly restored above Lukaku in the Chelsea pecking order, along with Demba Ba.

Lukaku’s stock took an immediate nosedive, his initial Fantasy Premier League (FPL) value dipped from 8.0 to 7.4 by Gameweek 4 but as Jose Mourinho ushered in Samuel Eto’o, Lukaku’s fortunes were to be revived by a loan move to Goodison.

Predictably, the Belgian has taken just two appearances to underline his potential – instantly replicating the kind of form that saw him register 17 goals and 7 assists whilst on loan at West Brom last season.

Already the turnaround is almost complete. Lukaku’s FPL value could well be restored to the 8.0 valuation by the time Gameweek 8 is with us after the international break. Despite the fierce competition for places in our forward lines, Fantasy managers have not been hesitant following Monday night’s performance: Lukaku is currently earning new owners at a faster rate than Luis Suarez.

With a trip to Manchester City at the weekend, however, many will allow themselves more time to assess Lukaku’s potential to displace one of the established heavyweights in our attacks. City, whilst fragile on their travels, put up a formidable barrier at the Etihad which will test Roberto Martinez’ free-flowing side, with Vincent Kompany no doubt charged with nullifying his compatriot.

Lukaku will get to test his “fixture proof” credentials, then, with Fantasy managers braced for evasive action should he again demonstrate his credentials as a Premier League force. With a home clash with Hull City lying in wait for Gameweek 8, the Lukaku bandwagon is unlikely to hit the buffers, regardless of his returns in Manchester.

The Team

West Brom’s miserable start to the season had seen them almost consigned to sit amongst the Premier League strugglers. Some canny summer business from Steve Clarke has, however, added much-needed zest to the Baggies performances, resulting in back-to-back wins, capped by the unlikeliest of victories at Old Trafford.

Despite the upturn in fortunes, Fantasy managers won’t have been pushed to consider investment just yet. Instead we’ll be patiently making notes, lining up some likely candidates to consider once the fixture schedule improves.

While we already acknowledged the performance of new signing, Morgan Amalfitano, the impressive Frenchman’s goal and assist returns were close to be overshadowed by a display from a name we’re far more familiar with. Stephane Sessegnon’s showing in the 2-1 over United demonstrated the kind of talent that, at times, attracted plenty of Fantasy interest whilst clad in the stripes of Sunderland. With a goal on his full debut against his former club in Gameweek 5, Sessegnon has already won over the West Brom faithful, whilst putting us Fantasy managers back on alert to his potential as a 6.8 FPL midfielder.

Gameweek 12 starts a run of four home matches in six for the Baggies and, by then, we will have a better indication as to whether Clarke’s midfield acquisitions deserve further attention.

The Talking Point

While Lukaku stole the headlines, Ross Barkley’s goal and all-round performance in the win over the Magpies also had great significance. With Aaron Ramsey’s double figure returns at the Liberty in the same Gameweek, there appears to be little or no sign of the young midfield starlets stalling – backing up last Thursday’s Versus article for members that suggested that the in-form duo’s form was no fluke.

Having been initially priced at 4.5 and 5.5 respectively, Barkley and Ramsey have seen significant value increases as their form has flourished. Their consistency has all but silenced doubts that they may both struggle to maintain their strong returns and now, those who are yet to commit, are facing a tough decision.

Together, the pair have increased by 1.7 in the FPL, a figure that will undoubtedly nag away at those now considering jumping on board. Given that they remain in the low-to-mid price brackets however, perhaps we should not allow such a factor to influence our thinking.

Typically, players who accelerate in price at speed can often cause their owners a problem when they hit a dry spell or, worse still, suffer an injury. Early adopters are often hesitant to sell on a player which would result in a big loss of funds, for fear of not being able to afford to acquire them weeks later.

Given their price tags, however, either Ramsey or Barkley could possibly be left on the bench for a number of weeks before their absence would be a concern. That was not the case for the likes of Michu last season, who, later in the season, became a liability for his owners as his form faltered.

Despite competition for places in both the Everton and Arsenal squads, realistically, neither seems likely to drop to the bench for more than a brief rest. The pair appear to have become essential to their respective managers and only a sudden decline in form will likely see their Fantasy stock falter.

That’s clearly a possibility, although, as mentioned, whilst still priced around the 5.0 and 6.0 bracket, Fantasy managers would have to consider whether even a prolonged dry spell would have a serious impact on their squads.

While those currently lagging behind in mini-leagues need to search out differentials, perhaps both Barkley and Ramsey are the exceptions to the rule. They may well be heavily owned “template” players but their price still enables us to invest elsewhere and find differentials amongst the midfield and defensive heavy hitters.

Rather than invest blindly, we perhaps need to assess how they will be used in our squads. At 5.3, Barkley can be kept in reserve as a bench player at times but, at 6.4 and rising, Ramsey surely has to be included in a 3-4-3. Those without the Welshman will be weighing up whether a move for Barkley and perhaps another bench rotator would be more effective at this stage, praying that Arsene Wenger is correct and that Ramsey’s goalscoring form proves to be cyclical.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Mark
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    • 17 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Interested to get views on the issues discussed in Talking Point.

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      The prem managers need to learn to deal with box to box midfielders. This they must know themselves by now and will hopefully quell this fpl horror now.

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    2. Demel
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Did you mean to say "first"? 😉

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    3. LOCO ABREU
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      10 years, 8 months ago

      i want barkley and i will ignore ramsey.

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    4. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      My view is that owning players that increase your spending power by the January WC is very important but not worth sacrificing points for. So with that in mind I have been following mids that are bandwagons, still rising in price like the ones mentioned above but am aiming to ensure consistently average points each week to prevent playing catch up. I currently own Brady, Barkley and Ramsey with 5.5 in the bank. My belief is when a big hitting mid prove their worth I will swap one, as long as they don't then may it continue. If one player hits a significant dry spell I'll sell.

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    5. Fray Bentos
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      one of the frustrations i have is with a number if value midfielders in the team (eg barkley, brady and ramsey), you can often bench the player who scores the points - 20 on my bench this week 🙁

      the only way you can play them all is by benching the premium players!

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Value defs, values mids and value strikers. Not sure where I am supposed to spend my money this year. Dont know why we all congratulate fpl on their pricing this year.

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        1. tm245
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Totally agree -- not sure they worked through scoring and pricing fully after the change to BPS.

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    6. Sheffield Rules
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Are you getting either/both Mark?

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    7. Demel
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Interesting post. I think Ramsey makes a great 4th midfield pick (and have now brought him in). As for Barkley he is a great 5th midfield option. I already own Whittingham and I don't think he will be far behind Barkley at the end of the season. For teams who want RVP both and Brady are possible combinations.

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    8. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I have neither Barkley or Ramsey. I want both, but have other issues/injuries to deal with

      I hate chasing points, but I had the same problem with Michu last season

      A bit stuck now to be honest

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    9. tm245
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Interesting point. As one contemplating the jump on board, I actually have less to lose than those with so much profit tied up in them -- remembering Mark's post last year about his Michu frustration in particular from the perspective of an early owner.

      Ramsey and Barkley certainly seem to have their managers' full confidence, and in a vacuum (which it is for a new owner) the points per million is hard to resist.

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    10. Tim Canterbury
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Yup good point. Why not have all four. Ozil Ramsey Lukaku & Barkley. BEAST

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    11. Captain Robert Hatch
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Will opponents begin to key in on these value-mid players?

      Meaning, is it a case of not enough "film" on a player at this level and soon they will be mostly shut down?

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    12. Dougal McGuire
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Cheap players who produce a lot of points some weeks are valuable. Sometimes I think that managers feel better about a 5.0 player who gets reliable 2s every week than a 5.3 player who get more points but might "let them down" and be only and just get a 2 some weeks. Madness. I started the season with Kim figuring he would be a good source of 2s and maybe more. Now I have spent about the same for other mids who score a lot more. If they have an off week, so what? I'm still better off. And if their proce goes up, great, and if they get a lot of points on a week they are benched, then good, that is a sign they are a good player. People seem to want a 5th MF who is bad so they don;t feel bad about not playing them.

      I'm thinking I will bring in Barkley for Mirallas and use the difference to upgrade my not very good defense. Or maybe to upgrade Brady next week. But I'd be good with Brady (when healthy) and Ramsey and Barkley, 3 top strikers and 2 top mids, with a good defense.

      If one or more cheap mids stop producing at a high level and falls back to producing at the level I am paying for, *I'm still getting what I paid for*.

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    13. Phaze 1
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Its the most redic POV I've seen. You buy a player at 5.5 and I buy him and 6.3 and you think I have an edge in that transaction. You do realise you saved 0.8 which you can use elsewhere in your team while that gain is not available for me?

      Your fear of selling due to not being able to buy back means you have shortcomins to work on as an FPL manager. Fortune favors the brave and you can't ask FPL to hold your hand all through the season. If someone sucks and you see better value/ more upside from another player just sell and move on instead of wondering what ifs for weeks on end then blaming the buy/sell system in FPL. I think its well balanced as is cause it allows brave managers an edge over those less willing to pull the trigger.

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      1. Fabreghastly
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Simplistic argument. Everyone who has Ramsey gets his points week in week out but, if he suddenly goes out for a month those who bought him later have better options. We won't lose much selling and are less restricted in who we can buy in, so making that decision is easier. Also, his price could drop like a stone which means we could make money if we decide to get him back in later whereas early adopters always lose in that situation. It is a real dilemma, not poor play, which is why it is often better not to jump on bandwagons straight away, if you can afford it.

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        1. Phaze 1
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          You're making assumptions that the person who got ram at 5.5 doesn't have money ITB. Bottom line is if your TV went up by 0.8 over mine there is ZERO way you didn't gain an edge over me in that spot. Saying its harder for you to get rid is just down to you as a manager. Nothing is stopping you from banking the value gained and moving on other than ur fear of being wrong. Its not down to FPL to relieve you of that as its part of the game.

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        2. Manky Yanc
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          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          People look too much at their team value.

          Yes it looks nice but it means nothing unless you actually sell the players on.

          Of course getting a player in at a cheaper price is better because you will a) take their points, otherwise they wouldn't keep rising, and b) take more profit when you sell them on.

          You wouldn't want to buy them back again unless their form significantly improved, in which case hop back on the new bandwagon and make some more profit !!

          Maybe FPL should introduce a 'profit value' next to 'team value' to keep things in context

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    14. Fabreghastly
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I've had Barkley for a while and just brought Ramsey in. Wasn't going to, but Brady being definitely out for a month I thought I may as well get the price rises. Benching Barkley this week but then I have a problem as all my front eight have good fixtures for the foreseeable future. I will probably bench Ramsey or Eriksen until someone gets injured or loses form and hopefully have 2 frees by then. Ramsey because I have Mesut and Giroud, and Eriksen because I'm beginning to think he may be the new Modric. Either way, I'm bound to bench the wrong guy each week. 🙂

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  2. Plymouth
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Cech (Boruc)
    M.Turner, Cole, Baines (Collins, Chester)
    Michu, HBA, Schneiderlin, Jedinak (Brady)
    Studge, Suarez, Giroud

    I know, Its horrible at the midfield - Does anyone have any pro-tips for me? Every move would mean a -4 pointer.

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    1. Plymouth
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      In the bank: 2,6M

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      1. Lord Flashheart
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Brady to siggy

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  3. LewanGOALski
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Leroy Fer is such a great player in my FUT team! 😯

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  4. Demel
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Silva has today had his flag removed. How long is he safe from a price drop?

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      8 days

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      1. Demel
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Good. Good. Saves any price drop until after this weekend. Can look if I want to move him on after this weekend's games.

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  5. SPorting
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    UCL.

    Boo hiss!

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  6. GunsnRoses
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Arsenal's possession
    80%

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    1. NATSTER
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Their passing looks good.

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  7. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Just a word on the Pablo v Michu debate

    Pablo is possibly the best pick, but he's also a much bigger injury risk

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    1. NATSTER
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I'm thinking about double up if Moses doesn't perform this week. There's a risk though.

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    2. Frodo Baggins
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Michu is easily the better pick. Yes he's more expensive but you are paying for his serious goal potential

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  8. t4thomas
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    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Hey,

    Apologies for keep posting the same rubbish.

    As Brady now has an injury, I need to make a decision for GW7; This is the team I will have to field:

    mignolet
    walker, coleman, ben davies, fonte
    mirallas, michu, moses
    rooney, giroud, suarez

    The bench consists of jedinak, brady (i) and chester (i).

    I have 2.3M and 1FT.

    The proposed options are:

    A. nothing -- can still field a strong team and will have 2FT after the international break
    B. chester --> turner -- this means that I don't have to play coleman against city and helps me with the bench.
    C. rooney --> lukaku, brady --> ozil (-4) -- would rather stay with rooney, but helps me fix brady and get lukaku ahead of the price rises
    D. brady --> barkley -- will leave me a bit everton heavy, but can correct that with mirallas --> 9.5M after the international break; I have looked at whittingham, but doesn't really seem like a good swap.

    Thanks,

    Thomas

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    1. Lloyd Xmas
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Have you considered Amalfitano?

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      1. t4thomas
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        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        I was worried about his fixtures, but having looked at his stats - he is a real contender.

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    2. t4thomas
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Anyone else have a view?

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  9. JT's Dog
      10 years, 8 months ago

      So I bring in Brady for a hit, he gets 11 points but due to holiday panic shuffling to get Barkley in starting 11 I ended up benching him. Now he is out for 4 weeks should I hold onto him or sell?

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      1. 4-4-who?
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Ross Ba Ba Ba Barkley for you my lamb

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        1. JT's Dog
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Have him

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      2. 4-4-who?
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Happy with my team and rank improving.

        Still ruing bringing in Rosicky instead of Ramsey in GW2, it was a coin toss and I lost big style, otherwise would be top 1000.

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        1. JT's Dog
            10 years, 8 months ago

            You must have known bringing in rosicky would hurt you sooner rather than later, just how it happened was unexpected

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        2. r0nh
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Ramsey assist!!

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          1. 4-4-who?
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Says it all.

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        3. Declan
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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        4. Bad Pen
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Ozil goal, Rambo assist.

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        5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          OMG ozil

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        6. Parm
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Ozil goal

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        7. LewanGOALski
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Rambo assist 😯

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        8. Dial Square
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Ozil 🙂

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        9. NATSTER
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Ramsey assisted !!!

          Ozil GOAL !!!!!!!

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          1. NATSTER
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            They should keep it for the weekend... 🙁

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          2. Pasqualinho
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Great vision by Ramsey, composed finish by Ozil.

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            1. NATSTER
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              I didn't expect him to promptly shoot. 😯

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              1. Pasqualinho
                • 15 Years
                10 years, 8 months ago

                One thing you have in common with Reina, then.

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        10. Pinoche
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          OMG Ozil

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        11. You've got red on you.
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          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          I'll have some of that at the weekend!

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        12. Frodo Baggins
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Wow what a goal ozil

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        13. Captain Shirokov
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Of course Ozil scores midweek 🙄

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        14. Barrier Freeman
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          RAMBOZIL!

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          1. Barrier Freeman
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            RAMBÖZIL!, rather 😀

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        15. Chrissy Waddle - 2023/24
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          What a goal by 😯

          Pick that out fatty waitor.

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        16. Q--
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          what happened to Basel/Schalke game ?
          i have 2 basel players 🙁

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          1. LOCO ABREU
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            ?they are playing no?

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        17. GunsnRoses
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Ramsey is all over fantasy radar

          Unstoppable !

          Next winter ... Madrid bid of 150 million ? 😀

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        18. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Blimey. Özil ftw!

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Cazorla 😉

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        19. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Why pay 10.5 when you can get just as good for 4m less?

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Why not have both? 😛

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            1. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              Cazorla is back this week, differential innit

              Though I am considering it once RvP has been shifted

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          2. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Because money is no longer an issue in fpl as no premium player is performing.

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        20. Tim Canterbury
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          😯 goal Rambo assist. God I wish that was in the prem. I thought Ozil couldn't finish?

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Errr ... check his career record ... 🙂

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        21. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          "Ozil doesn't score goals" 🙄

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          1. r0nh
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            *in the FPL 🙂

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            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              We'll see 😉

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