Dugout Discussion

The Dugout Discussion – Saturday

Saturday’s six matches get under way with five three o’clock kick-offs before Newcastle host West Brom in the North East this evening. While Arsenal and Everton are the only true rich sources of Fantasy talent on show, the teamsheets certainly give a few of us something to consider as we head into the hectic December schedule.

We start the team news at Goodison, where there’s a couple of surprises in the Everton lineup as both Ross Barkley and Kevin Mirallas drop to the bench – perhaps with the midweek trip to Old Trafford in mind. Both were impressive in the 3-3 draw with Liverpool last time out but warm the timber this time around as Leon Osman is recalled and Barcelona loanee Gerard Deulofeu is given his first Premier League start. At the back, Bryan Oviedo replaces the injured Leighton Baines. Visitors Stoke are forced into a pair of changes with Robert Huth and Marko Arnautovic both absent through injury. Oussama Assaidi returns to the starting XI, while Marc Muniesa is given his first league start for the Potters.

Paul Lambert brings Antonio Luna, Gabby Agbonlahor, Andreas Weimann and Fabian Delph back into his Villa lineup to face Sunderland following their role in the Hawthorns comeback. Nathan Baker, Yacouba Sylla, Libor Kozak and Aleks Tonev make way. Gus Poyet also makes three changes to the Sunderland teamsheet, as in come Craig Gardner, Fabio Borini and Andrea Dossena with Jack Colback, Adam Johnson and Ondrej Celustka dropping to the bench.

Sam Allardyce makes no less than four changes to his West Ham lineup to face Fulham, with one of them of great significance. Ravel Morrison drops to the bench having started the last nine Premier League matches; Joe Cole also makes way, along with Joey O’Brien and Jack Collison. The Hammers start with George McCartney, Mohamed Diame, Modibo Maiga and Matt Jarvis. As for Fulham, they are without the injury Dimitar Berbatov, so Adel Taarabt is handed a rare start for Martin Jol’s side. Damien Duff and Steve Sidwell also return as Bryan Ruiz and Derek Boateng miss out.

Arsene Wenger has the luxury of selecting an unchanged side for the trip to Cardiff as Theo Walcott is again kept in reserve. The home side make just a single change with Kim Bo-Kyung given the nod over Peter Odemwingie.

Finally, at Carrow Road, Chris Hughton makes three changes to his Norwich lineup as in come Johan Elmander, Wes Hoolahan and Seb Bassong. Anthony Pilkington misses out through injury, Bradley Johnson and Michael Turner drop to the bench. Tony Pulis makes two changes for his first match in charge of Palace as Jason Puncheon comes in for the suspended Yannick Bolasie. Cameron Jerome is preferred to Dwight Gayle up front.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open and will be with you throughout today’s matches, right through to the final whistle at St James’ Park.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Kerrazy
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    why was Ravel dropped again ?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      had a fight with the fat guy

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    2. Shifty
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I'm guessing rested ahead of the fixture list this week.

      Big Sam probably doesn't feel comfortable playing his best player in 3 games over 7 days

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    3. low-life
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Don't know. At least we know their next teamsheet before transfer deadline.

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      1. Shifty
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Just asked this question below - that's for sure right? Thanks LL, don't wanna call you a low life 🙂

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        1. low-life
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Come on here just after 7.00pm and the team will be posted. Gastafari's reasoning should be correct anyway.

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    4. Gaztafari
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Rest for mid week I reckon. Palace away tougher than Fulham at home.

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  2. bitterandstout
      10 years, 6 months ago

      5 looks appealing

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      1. SPorting
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I prefer Seven of Nine.

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    • DonTheSpecialOne
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Athletic Timbo around?

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Athletico*

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    • TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      It would be absolutely delightful with an Aguero blank tomorrow.

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      1. Kerrazy
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        makes it easier to keep Rooney then lol.

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    • Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      It's good to see the big budget midfielders making a comeback 🙂

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    • ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Can Cabaye have his silly assist taken away now?

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      1. Xavi Iniesta
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I hope so. That's a ridiculous assist if given

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      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        if it isn't taken away an hour after the final whistle of the last game of the day it sticks

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      3. TorresMagic™
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Send an email or 30

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    • clump39
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      44 pts with 6 players to play plus aguero as captain ..he better bang in a few tomorrow !!!!

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    • Thomass
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Which early transfers thoughts would you recommend?
      Mignolet
      Terry, Coleman, GJ
      Oscar, Ramsey, Cabaye, Sess
      Remy, Suarez, Kun
      Subs: Davis, Ravel, Chico and Faye

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Wait a day.

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        1. Thomass
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah thanks will wait 🙂

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      2. Shifty
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Sess out for anyone I would highly recommend. Wait til tomorrow's games end in any case.

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    • Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I can't stop laughing at Coleman's goal.

      So shit and lucky 😆

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Gif?

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      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        send it through to you've been framed. Easy £250 quid

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      3. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Eh? I thought it was well placed

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      4. Viper
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I haven't seen it yet but heard it was a good goal?

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    • Shifty
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Planning on getting Ravel to fund Aguero in, but correct me if i'm wrong -

      Midweek GW, we will be able to get the WHU-CRY team sheets before deadline? Just want to make sure Ravel starts, so will leave it as late as possible. Thanks.

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      1. low-life
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Yes. I'm going to take advantage and captain Demel.

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        1. Shifty
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          🙂 thanks

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    • Göz
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      It seems every post is 'Hey everyone look at my score'

      Well then, 3pts with Graham (c) to come. Not to shabby.

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      1. Tobiathan
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        *too

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    • mgilbert86
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Got points from every player and below everyone with 22

      ramsey absolutely trolling my season, just bought him, enough of this

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    • Sheldon420
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Is there a better option than Cabaye for less than 7m?

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Brunt.

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      2. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Noone 😉

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        1. Richd
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Ex Brighton?

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          1. r0nh
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Cardiff now

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      3. Pigvig
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Its hard to see one at the moment.

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    • Assisting you all day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Will coutinho start tomorrow?

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        No

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        1. Assisting you all day
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          what makes you so sure?

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          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 15 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Twitter ITK. Bench at best unless a miracle.

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            1. Xavi Iniesta
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              Dumb troll

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              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 15 Years
                10 years, 6 months ago

                Wait & see.

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        2. Kerrazy
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          source ?

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    • King Kohli
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      How would you improve this team?

      Mignolet / Lewis
      Dawson / Koscielny / Clyne / Turner / Wilson
      Oscar / Hazard / Özil / Brady / Whittingham
      Remy / Agüero / Suárez

      1 FT, £0.0m in the bank.

      Thinking of saving FT

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      1. Coaly
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        yeah save ft

        i'd loos at the defense though dawson doesn't have the best schedule and apart from kosc (booking magnet) you don't have a defender from a top 4 team

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      2. Shifty
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Nice team. FT saveable. Might want to try and get a bank of maybe 1 mil for flex down the line. Dawson > Vlaar would be good.

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        1. Kerrazy
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Fulham sunderland in the next 3. Why get rid ?

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          1. Shifty
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            I do think he will get dropped this game or the next.

            Save the FT this week. Downgrade him next.

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      3. Kerrazy
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Ramsey

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    • Xavi Iniesta
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Hi all. Hope you've had a productive day. Anybody need some team advice? I know I do!

      Boruc Harper
      Chico Gabbidon Coleman Shaw Whittaker
      Amalfitano JWP Ozil Oscar Coutinho
      Suarez Aguero Benteke

      My options:

      A) Benteke > Torres
      B) Amalfitano > RavMo
      C) Other

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      1. Xavi Iniesta
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Oh, I've got 0.1 in the bank

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      2. TorresMagic™
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        C

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        1. Xavi Iniesta
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Any suggestions Torres?

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          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 15 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Certainly not A. Wait on Coutinho. Where's Ramsey?

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            1. Xavi Iniesta
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              Never owned him. Getting him now when I own Ozil seems pointless. Very frustrating nevertheless. I'll just bring in Walcott.

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              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 15 Years
                10 years, 6 months ago

                You get 5 midfield spots. He falls in the top 5 to have. Who else you have is irrelevant.

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      3. Shifty
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        A) is a tad risky. Ba could very well get some game time.

        B sounds good of the 2. Decent team for the week, if not willing to take a hit.

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        1. Xavi Iniesta
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Thanks. It's good to know some people do give legit advice

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          1. Shifty
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Legit or not, don't take my word for it but happy to assist.

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    • Viper
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I was so, SO close to going for Moses ahead Ramsey on my wildcard in gwk 5.

      My god that would have been the end of me!

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      1. Eboue
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I haven't owned Ramsey all season 😳

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Same, I mean its all gonna end when Walcott is back anyway

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          1. Eboue
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Got Walcott already 😎 beat the crowds!

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            1. Ginkapo FPL
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              Getting him in the Black Friday weekend sales I think

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              1. Eboue
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 6 months ago

                Had planned to save this week. Don't think I'll hold out!

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      2. Shifty
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        definitely dodged a steaming pile of crap right there.

        I can't believe it was between Ramsey, Lallana, Moses and Cabaye for that 6.0 range mid, and i picked Moses. Have been trying to gain back ground ever since.

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        1. asquishypotato
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          • 10 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Me and you had the same idea. Wo could predict Moses was going to get absolutely nothing e when playing just behind Suarez and Sturridge? Everyone else apart from us...

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          1. Shifty
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            I can't even be bothered to count the points racked up by the other options during the time i held Moses.

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      3. Göz
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I had that decision to make, and Moses is still on my bench lol. Missed out on a massive haul

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    • Zombie
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Sess to Wally for free a no brainer ? Already have Ramsey

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      1. Xavi Iniesta
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Yes do it

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    • Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Early thoughts on Wally next GW ?

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      1. Xavi Iniesta
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Will start to rack up the points

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      2. Assisting you all day
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        captain!

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      3. Demí
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Great option if you can afford the luxury and don't have spots tied up in 2 other Arsenal mids

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        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Coutinho and Sess > Wally and Ramsey...

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        2. Shifty
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          I have Ramsey Ozil and 2.9 in the bank. Thinking of Sess > Walcott! Call me crazy.

          Or should I just use the 2.9 and get Aguero in as planned. Waited long enough to avoid hits.

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      4. Herman Toothrot
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        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Should start. Perhaps 45 mins who knows. He only needs 1 minute anyway 😀

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      5. sy
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I have enough to do Theo to Sess but doubt he will start after he only played a few minutes today, but Sess 85% towards a drop might force my hand

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      6. Zombie
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I got just enough funds to do Sess -> Wally (Ramsey only other gunner)

        He sure gonna start against Hull..Giroud looked tired today so might even start up front

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        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          That's the bit I like.. I need to get Ramsey as well to ensure a rise towards my ultimate goal of Silva/Wally/Hazard/Cabaye/cheap without resorting to rubbish defenders.

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          1. Zombie
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            3 big hitters along with Suarez, Aguero, Rooney - tough for me

            You must be having someone else instead of Rooney?

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    • Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      What time do the average points usually come?

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Just before weekly rank. The average is the average for 3 million teams. Hardly relevant. The average for the top million is a lot higher.

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Congrats Ronh. Think Ars could go all The way this year.

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        1. r0nh
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          I just hope they dont get my wee hopes up, then let me down 🙁

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          1. DonTheSpecialOne
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            • 13 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            I don't think so.

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      2. Assisting you all day
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        second best defence second best attack in pl no.1 in the table COYG

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    • Coaly
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      POLL

      a) shaw and ridgewell brom have a very good schedule after next week but can they be relied on?

      b) cahill/kosc and gabbidon

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    • DonTheSpecialOne
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Would you rather have
      A) Giroud and Sess
      B) Ramsey and Lukaku (-4)

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      1. LOCO ABREU
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        B long term because giroud is a donkey

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      2. Gubborr
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Next GW A, long term B

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        1. DonTheSpecialOne
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          • 13 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Thanks, I've got three Ars players so if I bring in Ramsey Gru is out for -4. Not sure if it's worth doing The trade.

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Class

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    • LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      studge to play vs norwich?

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      1. Herman Toothrot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Dayneyul spwained 'is ankul.

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      2. Assisting you all day
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        injured

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        1. LOCO ABREU
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          he's ruled out?

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          1. Herman Toothrot
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            • 11 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Look at the Scout Tweets on the home page.

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    • Red Viper
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I give up, have to get Ramsey now, Sess->Ramsey, Towonsend to 4.9 milf, who the best midfielder to get for 4.9 or below? Nathan Redmond?

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      1. LOCO ABREU
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        redmond or jwp imo

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        1. Red Viper
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          dont u think jwp will be under rotation threat with Osvaldo coming back? I am really looking for guaranteed minutes.

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          1. Shifty
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Guaranteed minutes - Kasami it seems.

            Not much in terms of goal scoring potential on the basis of playing for Fulham, but if bench fodder enabler is what you're looking for, look no further.

            Or Sidwell.

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            1. Red Viper
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              • 12 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              Kasami is guaranteed minutes under Martin Jol, but I really doubt Martin Jol is guaranteed minutes with this team anymore

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              1. Shifty
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 6 months ago

                you have a point. Slim pickings. That's what you get with the bottom of the barrel

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      2. Adderz
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Mutch?

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        1. Red Viper
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          how nailed on is he?

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          1. Art Vandelay
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Not much. That is an answer to both questions. 😀

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            1. Red Viper
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              • 12 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              😀 to think i missed 1.9m worth of price rises and tons of points before getting Ramsey 🙁 but i guess better late than never

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      3. Mario Italiano
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        same feeling I've done without the **** for the whole season but this is becoming ridiculous...watch when I get him he'll stop scoring or might even be rested

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    • Mak_Gold
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Team for next Gameweek:

        Mignolet,
        Koscielny, Chico, Clyne,
        Oscar, Ramsey, Cabaye, Morrison,
        Rooney, Suárez, Agüero.

        Daniels, Brady, Chester, Coleman.

        2 FTs, £0.8m in the bank.

        Any suggestions? Cheers.

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      • white lightning
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Is it time to sell Barkley and or just keep him?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 15 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Sell if you have no main issues.

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      • r0binh0
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Fact of the day - Arsenal scored 3 more points from the identical fixtures last season and yet finished 4th.

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        1. Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Full of confidence, new signing, new era 😎

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        2. The Shadow
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          I don't remember them playing Cardiff last year.

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          1. r0binh0
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            cardiff substituted for a relegated team from the previous season (reading in this case)

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      • Champ
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Wow! Cant believe my luck with transfers in and out this season!

        You know? When you transfer players in and out exactly at the right time? Well that. But the opposite 🙂

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        1. Podge
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          It's an underrated talent 😉

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