Dugout Discussion

The Dugout Discussion – Monday

An all-London affair at the Emirates brings the curtain down on Gameweek 17 this evening. Plenty of Fantasy favourites are on show as the Gunners look for the win that would extend their lead to four points over the chasing pack:

For the hosts, Aaron Ramsey and Mesut Ozil are the main protagonists for Fantasy managers, whilst Theo Walcott will be looking to maintain the form that saw him score twice at the Etihad last weekend.

Jose Mourinho’s side roll up on the back of a poor form of form on the road. The Blues have been beaten in three of their last four away games in all competitions but know that a victory will draw them level with the Gunners on 36 points. Eden Hazard will be desperate to have his say before Fantasy managers turn our attentions to the Gameweek 18 fixtures on Boxing Day.

The team news sees the hosts make four changes from the side that lost 6-3 at City last time around. Kieran Gibbs and Thomas Vermaelen are drafted in for Nacho Monreal and Laurent Koscielny at the back, with the Frenchman sidelined due to a knee wound. Mikel Arteta partners Aaron Ramsey in the double-pivot, with Mathieu Flamini dropping out, whilst Tomas Rosicky gets the nod on the left, replacing the suspended Jack Wilshere. Lukas Podolski warms the Gunners bench along with the likes of Santi Cazorla.

The Blues make three alterations from the XI that edged past Palace. Gary Cahill replaces David Luiz in defence, whilst John Obi Mikel and Frank Lampard are drafted into midfield – Michael Essien drops out through suspension while Juan Mata takes his place on the bench, allowing Ramires to move onto the right of the attacking midfield three. Oscar, Andre Schurrle and Samuel Eto’o are also amongst the subs, with Fernando Torres leading the line again.

Once again, we’ve opened the Dugout Discussion chatroom for those partial to some real-time reaction.

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  1. Pomp and Circumstance
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    is it possible Kelvin Davis would start the next game as GK for Southampton?

    and related, should I get a new GK to replace injured Boruc if my main GK is Mignolet (Man City and Chelsea next 2 fixtures)? thanks

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  2. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Silva (C)! Wish me luck! 😀

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    1. Kevin Twine
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Could be a nice move that - good luck.

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      1. Bubz
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        10 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks!

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    2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      good luck

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      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks!

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  3. LOCO ABREU
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    help guys:evra>evans and ramsey>wally?or wait a week and get wally by downgrading terry?

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  4. Pomp and Circumstance
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    who should be captain and vice-captain from?:
    Suarez
    Rooney
    Ozil
    Hazard

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  5. Caesar Salahd
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Ozil for?

    A) Walcott
    B) Yaya Toure
    C) Silva
    D) Hazard.

    Dont have any City cover and already have Ramsey

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    1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      keep_move on

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    2. Arsenal USA FC
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      C

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    3. mgilbert86
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      D

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    4. HabitualLineSteppers
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B) Yaya Toure

      Peno duty - free kicks, nailed on & in-form

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    5. In Like Flynn.
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      A)

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  6. lugalooch
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Need to get rid of boruc and aguero

    Should I get
    A) schezney and lukaku
    B)Howard and Wellbeck

    Any other keeper/striker suggestions are welcome

    Thanks

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      A or marshal and negredo

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    2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      You should of been sectioned in 1998

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  7. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    How about a punt on Walcott as captain. Low ownership. Could work out well or be a complete disaster? Also with Sherwood Forest getting the job and Ady having a point to prove, he does look quite inciting

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    1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      You should of been sectioned in 1999

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      1. wood is good
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        lol

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        1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Can you please explain the joke to me, I don't quite get it, thought it was just a drunken comment

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          1. wood is good
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            theres every chance it is a drunken comment.
            but then knowing his character one might be led to believe he is drunk when infact he is not.
            hes implying that considering captaining walcot makes you mentally ill and thus shouldve been sectioned years ago.

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  8. Kevin Twine
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Why's everyone panicking and getting rid of Ozil?

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    1. Arsenal USA FC
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Possible Rest and Performance today.

      (If I had I'd stick with him but would get rid of Ramsey)

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    2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      They are the undead

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    3. Absinthe 42
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I just did without panic.
      Got Wally & Silva instead of Ozil & Sess.

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  9. Arsenals Number 19. Santi C…
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Finding it impossible to make some ground this year consistently back and fourth 5k odd places every week.....annoying

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    1. Moorinho
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Because of Suarez one man show. All time I've dared to give anyone else the armband I've tumbled down the rankings.

      Never again. I'll instead try the differential route only.

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      1. Arsenals Number 19. Santi C…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        its kind off ruining the game isnt it

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        1. Moorinho
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          RvP was doing that for a while last season.

          The Aguero, Rvp injury (which has pushed Rooney deeper) haven't helped though. It's just a different challenge.

          Suarez may be a differential this GW against City. I reckon he'll still score a couple as City never stop attacking at home so will leave holes at the back. Plus no other candidate comes close.

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  10. mgilbert86
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    -----------Howard
    ----Turner-Evans-Distin
    Hazard-Yaya-Ramsey-Sterling
    --Rooney-Lukaku-Suarez

    Worth a -4 to get in Debuchy?

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Definitely not.
      Great team

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    2. mgilbert86
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      ignore, just saw fixtures

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    3. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      No

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  11. jonnybhoy
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Right so

    Remy, Coutinho, Zab to Rooney Lallana and Whittaker -4pts yeah?

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I don't like those transfers besides Rooney coming in.
      The suggestion on previous page for Ozil to Wally looks better

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      1. jonnybhoy
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I really do need to get rid of Coutinho though

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        1. Venom Snake
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Post your team

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          1. Gloria Kanchelskis
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            this ^^

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          2. jonnybhoy
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Howard
            Distin Zab* Terry Dawson Chester
            Coutinho* Oscar* Ozil Ramsey
            Lukaku Remy* Suarez

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        2. jonnybhoy
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          How about

          Coutinho, Ozil, Zab and Remy to Rooney, Lallana, Walcott and Turner? -8pts?

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  12. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Looking to improve my defence, any ideas?

    Howard / 4.0
    Coleman / Evans / Burner / Glen J* / Clyne*

    A) Glen J (5.7) -> Arse/New def
    B) Clyne -> Williamson
    C) Save

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    1. Emp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B

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  13. lifes a pitch
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Any suggestions for my team or should i keep my FT, 0.6 itb
    im tempted to do t rooney in by doin Ramsey > januzaj this week, and negredo out for roon after next game.

    Howard

    Baker Terry Distin (gabbidon, shaw)

    Hazard Yaya Silva Ramsey (kasami)

    Lukaku Suarez Negredo

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    1. Emp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      stick

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    2. Gloria Kanchelskis
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      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I'd keep it

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  14. MK Don
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Quick Poll Please 🙂

    Who should I captain ?

    Rooney
    Saurez
    Remy
    Silva

    ?

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Suarez

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    2. lifes a pitch
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Suarez, unless you predict on Rooney taking a more advanced position with people saying welbeck is injured (not sure if that's confirmed)

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  15. Crouch Potato!
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    @ Ryan, well played, best of luck in the final, the nerves got to my lot 😉

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Cheers mate 🙂

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  16. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    ok, not a great week but ended up dropping only from 258k to 278k...

    1 FT, 1.5m

    Howard - Lewis
    Coleman - Mertesacker - Clyne - Burner - Chester
    Hazard - Silva - Walcott - Ramsey - Ravel
    Suarez - Lukaku - Negredo

    probably will save this week..RMT gents?

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    1. JUSTBLAZE
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      As close to a perfect team as can get. Would prefer Rooney to Negredo myself but definitely save. That midfield is too good not to get you points and there is a great balance.

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      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        ha wow thank you..yeah Kun or Roon in soon is the plan

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    2. Emp
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      8/10

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      1. sinik
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        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        where to improve?

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        1. Gloria Kanchelskis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Clyne to Evans or possibly Rafael

          Hazard to YYT after this weeks games if you go for the flat track bully theory ( Hazard has tough games coming up )

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          1. sinik
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I'm trying to save money for the Negredo > Kun/Rooney upgrade, might consider Clyne to Evans though since it doesn't require that much

            might drop Burner depending on how the new management fares..

            also might downgrade Howard at the WC to free up extra cash..we shall see..

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        2. HabitualLineSteppers
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Ravel to Cabaye until .....

          Downgrade Cabaye to finance upgrade of Negredo to Kun / Rooney

          Just thinking outloud here .....lol

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          1. sinik
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I'm trying to save money for the Negredo > Kun/Rooney upgrade, might consider Clyne to Evans though since it doesn't require that much

            might drop Burner depending on how the new management fares..

            also might downgrade Howard at the WC to free up extra cash..we shall see..

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            1. HabitualLineSteppers
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Sounds like you have some options sorted

              I hope the weather over the next few GW'S isn't as bad as tonight - the football really suffered - felt like scratching my eyes out at times

              Good luck !

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              1. sinik
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                I didn't have to have that feeling as I was fast asleep for the first and last 15 minutes hahah

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    3. Moorinho
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Very similar to my tea,.. Yaya instead of Walcott and Rooney for Negredo for me.

      Downgrade clyne to a 4mil defender and upgrade one of the forwards may be? I think Rooney will keep doing well in RVP's absence and the easy schedule.

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      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        yep Rooney is certainly in the plans..City are so deep that I'm not sure I want to double up on their midfield especially if I try to get SAR back

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  17. LaudrupTheBoss
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    aguero out for:
    A) Adebayor
    B) Rooney

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    1. Emp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      the pig

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    2. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      you still have Kun!?

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  18. BruLee
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Marshall/Foster
    Zab/Mcauley/Chico/Turnet/Collins
    Walcott/Oscar/Barkley/Ramsey/Brady
    Lukaku/Suarez/Negredo

    1 FT, 2.8m in bank.

    Zab to Evans or Debuchy? Or do I take a hit and get in Silva??

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  19. Venom Snake
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Quick vote:

    Evans or Sagna.

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    1. Arsenal USA FC
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Evans

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      1. Emp
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        sagna

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        1. Venom Snake
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Well this doesn't help!

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          1. Arsenal USA FC
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Evans = Money
            Sagna = Better Fixtures

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            1. Venom Snake
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Let me put it to you this way

              A. Silva - Ozil - Evans
              B. Walcott - Ozil - Sagna (then change Ozil to silva/yaya within next couple)

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              1. jonnybhoy
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                A

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  20. peco12
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Negredo to Adebayor or is that to much of a risk?

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Too much of a knee jerk is what it is. Keep Negredo

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      keep negrado

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    3. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Now why would you remove Negredo? Liverpool will concede at least 2 goals and he should be involved.

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  21. JUSTBLAZE
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Morning all. Looking to make an upgrade in my midfield with a City (Silva/Toure) or bring in Walcott. With 2 Arsenal already, surely 3 is too much despite their fixtures? Don't want to take out either of them but surely it has to be Ozil right? I can afford to do Redmond > Silva/Toure/Walcott. The following week I could do Ozil to one of the 2 that did not get picked. General consensus is that Silva is getting rested v Palace and Wally will start the next 2? Team below.

    Adrian Marshall
    Coleman Mbiwa Rafael Terry Ward
    Ozil Ramsey Ravel Redmond Januzaj
    Lukaku Rooney Suarez

    5.7 in the bank

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    1. JUSTBLAZE
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I just remember talk of Ozil being swapped last time and he goes on to have a monster game week.

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    2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Just ditch Luk get the beast. Ditch Rafeal get Santon.

      And then talk to me next week.

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      1. JUSTBLAZE
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Who is the beast? Newcastle have horrible fixtures if I recall. Rafael is the next bandwagon waiting to happen.

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        1. The Enlightener
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Picked him up last week. I'm at the front of the wagon. Might even be driving it.

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  22. Captain Shirokov
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Worst DZ ever!

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Plenty worse than this.

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    2. wood is good
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      oh it cant be that bad!
      are you not entertained?
      is this not why you are here?

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    3. Recoba
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I've got the bourbon if you've got the eggnog

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    4. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Dead Zone Shhitff____Follow me I know the path.....SShhhhhhhhhh.

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      1. wood is good
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        im following.
        where are we going?

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  23. Arsenal USA FC
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Ramsey -> Silva this week?

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  24. Round and Round
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Hows everyone planning to structure their team with the Jan WC? I'm thinking...

    Silva Theo Cabaye Ramsey cheapie
    Suarez Aguero Rooney

    Only area I'm unsure of atm is Cabaye+Rooney or Hazard/Gerrard + Lukaku

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    1. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I think it's time to part with Ramsey. Too high ownership and with Walcott back I think he might "steal" the points.

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      1. Royal5
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Others looks pretty good.

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      2. Round and Round
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        No better choice for selling value though imo

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  25. Recoba
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Dropped 65k this week, time to pull up the pants and refasten the belt.

    Any pressing reasons you see in this lot as to why I shouldn't do AWilliams > Whittaker?

    Howard 4
    Walker Distin AWilliams Ward BTurner
    Ozil Haz Silva Ramsey RMorrison
    Suarez Negredo Lukaku

    Thanks and I hope you did better than 57 😉

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    1. Round and Round
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Ozil to Cabaye for me. U can play Burner as 3rd def this week.

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      1. Recoba
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        He really looking that good? Would be fun to have that much spare change

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        1. Round and Round
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          His stats, performances and points speak for themselves

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    2. Moorinho
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Thats a pretty good team. Must have good value.

      Won't keep Walker now though. He's been getting forward less under Sherwood and their attacking play leaves them defensively suspect. Mert/Coleman are able replacements with good fixtures. Since you have Distin, Mert may be good for the next 7 gw to play with Distin. Can rotate the other three for one spot.

      No pressing concerns though, just been unlucky this week.

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      1. Recoba
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Unlucky and 2 hits 😛
        Thanks for the feedback

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        1. Moorinho
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Ahh.. it's so close at the top that hits put you down 4-5k. Plus, nearly everyone has 7-8 of the same players, so it's basically a shoot out of your differentials vs. theirs.

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  26. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Those of us who f dint have The Troll (yaya) weer will get a chance to get him in Jan, will you buy him and why?

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    1. Round and Round
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      No. Prefer Silva, Theo and Gerrard.

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      1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I want Silva to but he's always picking up injuries and coming off early. Plus Yaya had such high ownership that if he scores is disaster

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      2. kalmoffit
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Betting against him is becoming a tiresome business

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  27. Moorinho
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Is Baines Coleman double up too much?

    Baines, Coleman, Mert, Evra, Terry and Zaba seem the only five defenders worth the premium. The latter three are not getting enough CS's to justify that though.

    Need two defenders to play week in week out. Who to partner Coleman with?

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  28. JUSTBLAZE
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    A) Silva + Ozil
    B) Toure + Walcott

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    1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Silva and Walcott FTW

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    2. jonnybhoy
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      C) Silva and Walcott

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    3. Moorinho
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Silva and Walcott. Cheap and better points potential.

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  29. suarrr
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Fellas! Can really use some help here:

    Speroni Boruc
    Mert Coleman McAuley Ward Chester
    Ramsey Hazard Cout Oviedo Banan
    Rooney Suarez Lukaku

    1.5m itb, 1 FT

    A. I am good for next week but Coutinho looks like the only weak-link. However, since I have given him a chance for last 3 weeks, why not another?! Also, Im quite behind so it can be a good differential too

    B. Just get rid for either walcott or silva

    C. Any other suggestion? Maybe get rid of McAuley? But then again, he is a differential and has good fixures after this week.

    Thanks

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  30. Round and Round
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    What short-term (perhaps even 1 week) differentials are people looking at punting on until they WC?

    Currently reserved a spot for Berbatov and Adebayor in gws 20 & 21. Perhaps Dzeko in gw22 if Aguero is out.

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    1. No Luck
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Possibly Baines for me!

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