The Knee Jerk

The Knee Jerk – Saturday

City’s Bosnian striker makes the most of his cameo role by netting City’s winner against a plucky Palace, while Hull’s midfield quarterback hits double figures on a day that saw Fantasy managers plunged into panic by the absence of captaincy candidate, Wayne Rooney.

The Game Changer

Man City’s team sheet was the focus of our morning anxiety and, while Rooney’s omission eventually overshadowed Manuel Pellegrini’s reshuffles, the City lineup was to prove pivotal in our Saturday scoring. With the likes of Yaya Toure and Alvaro Negredo absent, it was left to Edin Dzeko to make the difference as a brave Palace rearguard was eventually breached by the Bosnian’s decisive strike.

Subject of our “Differentials” article and my own pre-amble this morning, Dzeko’s intervention will have provided rewards for a minority of Fantasy managers who took a risk on the City striker.

As my own ramblings mentioned, Dzeko looks to be a one-week proposition – unlikely to feature in Wednesday’s starting lineup, he was a trade who had to produce today to justify the gamble. With maximum Fantasy Premier League (FPL) bonus likely to follow, a nine point return, potentially doubled with the captaincy, looks a notable contribution in a Gameweek which seems destined for modest returns.

Sadly for Dzeko and his owners, his winner, however precious, is unlikely to strengthen his case for consistent starts in Pellegrini’s plans. He’s likely be shown a quick exit and thanked for his efforts on a day which saw the big names blank.

The Underused

Heralded as a superb summer signing, Tom Huddlestone has been integral to Hull City’s impressive start to their Premier League campaign. Stationed in a deep-lying midfield role, turning defence into attack with sublime simplicity, the £5 million signing from Spurs seemed unlikely to tempt Fantasy interest. Today’s impressive 14-point haul may well change that – albeit briefly.

Huddlestone’s superb dead-ball delivery has been a feature of the Tigers’ season but, today, his two assists were accompanied by a first goal of the campaign in a 6-0 drubbing of René Meulensteen’s Fulham.

That was his first Premier League goal since 2011 – underlining the fact that Huddlestone’s appeal perhaps remains limited. At just 4.8 in the FPL, however, the playmaker is an assured starter who will likely contribute further assists.

Surely a contender for Hull’s player of the year, Huddlestone is exactly the kind of midfielder that Fantasy games and their scoring systems should be trying to reach. Huddlestone may claim maximum FPL bonus points from today’s convincing win but that will be only the second time he’s been recognised by the BPS. Arguably, as one of the season’s top performers so far, we should have had reason to take notice way before today’s haul. Huddlestone is one of several midfielders “underused” and undervalued in Fantasy terms.

The Selection Poser

Rooney’s absence from the United team sheet with further groin gripes was undoubtedly the biggest blow on a day which saw rotation bite. United stuttered without his influence but David Moyes and United have already confirmed that he is likely to make his return against Spurs on Wednesday. With FPL vice captains kicking in, the onus will now be back on Luis Suarez to produce at Chelsea – the impact of Rooney’s injury could well be minor, then.

Even so, with Yaya Toure omitted by Pellegrini, we saw two key figures in the established “template” go AWOL, just a few days after Aaron Ramsey’s injury. Such setbacks could yet cause a shake-up in the rankings and mini-leagues, although few Fantasy managers seem likely to have benefited significantly from today’s events.

Tomorrow’s encounter at the Bridge will be more important that ever. Should Suarez blank again and Theo Walcott, backed by some with armband, produce at Newcastle, we may yet see Gameweek 19 have a significant impact.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. TwiggsJameson
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    • 13 Years
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    17 (-4) points has increased my rank by 20,000. What a bizzare gameweek. But lots of big hitters to come tomorrow.....

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    1. Dr Dream
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      or maybe not..No guarantees anybody will play from clubs with big squads.

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  2. Kreedas
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    14pts with:

    Coleman, Mertesacker, Hazard, Walcott (vc) and Suarez (c) to play.

    Should I be worried?

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    1. Werkself
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      Nope.

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      1. Kreedas
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        Thanks

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  3. Teeberry
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    Sorry for asking a silly question but if I have Rooney (c) and Suarez (vc) will I see Suarez become captain in the game tomorrow?

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    1. The Sarjeant
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      Yes. That it was a vice captain is for.

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    2. Werkself
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      Yes. If he plays. (He better!)

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      1. Teeberry
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        Ok thanks I just wasn't sure when it would show on fpl

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  4. MJ6987
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    Surprised a lot are talking about early Jan WCs. I would have thought its better to keep until as late as possible (transfer window, etc).

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    1. The Sarjeant
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      I want to use mine at the end. But my teams horrendous atm.

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      1. MJ6987
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        Your team is fine. Honestly.

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        1. The Sarjeant
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          Fixtures, form and injuries have killed mine.

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        2. JT's Dog
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Apologies for building up your hopes about uefa league qualification for Europe. Turns out it is week 19 not 18
            That mistake could get me in big trouble in some USA states

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      2. PGR
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        My team is in absolute shambles. I cannot wait for the WC

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      3. Andy1
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        18-28 January is when I plan to use mine

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        1. MJ6987
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          Why then?

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          1. Andy1
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            Long period to get price rises

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            1. MJ6987
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              We'll also get to see most of the teamsheets before the deadline at the end of that period.

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              1. Andy1
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                Exactly

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      4. ADucksBehind
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        My team is OK at the minute but who doesnt enjoy a WC

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    2. Jafooli
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      My team is a mix of 1's & 0's and red, orange and yellow flags. All very festive. And binary.

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      1. JWF
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        1. JWF
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          That actually means something btw.

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          1. Jafooli
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            I think it says 'your team is fooked' 😛

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            1. JWF
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              1. Jafooli
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                😀

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        2. Piggs Boson
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          Ho ho ho

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          1. JWF
            • 15 Years
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            Close enough.

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    3. JT's Dog
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Guy at bottom of my ML gave up after week 3 scored 36 points so far, with agger (c) zaba (vc)
        Crazy times
        http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/516265/event-history/19/

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      • alsybach
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        Silva + Morrison --------->Wally + sterling for a 4 pointer

        Yay
        Or
        Nay?????

        Wat do you think peeps??

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        1. Kreedas
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          Silva is out for one game only so keep him but ravel to sterling is a good move

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      • Doctor X
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        My question in simpler terms. It went unanswered on the last page 🙁

        If you didnt have Rooney would you get him in for next week for either Remy or Lukaku?
        Considering United play Spurs and he's not a 100%?

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        1. the axolotl
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          i'd leave to last minute and hope robbie savage or someone is in the know again. tricky one

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        2. Epic Fail
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          Probably not.

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        3. Colonel Wasabi
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          See previous page mate !

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      • Schürrle Class
        • 10 Years
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        6 points with Walcott captaincabaye coleman mertesacker suarez and lukaku.
        Should I be worried 😉

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        1. JWF
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          No more than anyone else!

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        2. Kreedas
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          I'm worried enough for me to make my post above!

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      • Jafooli
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        Any school monitors on today?

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        1. Podge
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          Yes thankfully

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          1. TorresMagic™
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            🙂

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      • Messiah Hazard
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        Lukaku out, who to get in - Podolski or Giroud?

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        1. Will
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          Not worth waiting until after the Everton game?

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          1. The Sarjeant
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            Whatever he scores tomorrow I'll be doing Lukaku to Hooper.

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          2. Messiah Hazard
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            I still want to get rid of him as I dont want a once in a while returns from him...

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      • Will
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        Quitely confident with 11pts + 8toplay + (c)Suarez
        http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/54118/event-history/19/

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        1. Goaldigger
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          Should be a good week for you.

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        2. Kreedas
          • 10 Years
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          I have 14pts and Coleman, Mertesacker, Hazard, Walcott (vc) and Suarez (c) and im worried!

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      • TorresMagic™
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        Good news.

        Last Man Standing safety score is currently 2 🙂

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        1. Goaldigger
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          Haha fantastic 🙂

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        2. Podge
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          Just scraping in 🙂

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      • Goaldigger
        • 12 Years
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        We have actually learnt one thing today. I think it got lost in all the madness.

        This Savage guy deserves a bit more credit.

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        1. Derailed Bandwagon
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          Forgotten about his tweets earlier 🙂

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          1. Goaldigger
            • 12 Years
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            Yeah I noticed it was forgotten the moment before the teamsheets arrived. Just minutes before he was the biggest donkey to have ever owned a twitter account.

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        2. Podge
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          If he could tweet before the 11:30 deadline he'd be great

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      • Derailed Bandwagon
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        Moved up 500 places with 11-4 points. 8 points to come off the bench and 7 players including captain to go. Could still be a successful gameweek 😀

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      • The Sarjeant
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        People need to remember that auto subs and vice captains haven't been done yet.

        Rankings aren't 100% accurate yet.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          I think they know. Only counts after tomorrow.

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        2. Goaldigger
          • 12 Years
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          I choose to blissfully ignore that.

          Any happiness is good happiness.

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      • the axolotl
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        so suarez tomorrow. any reasoned comments on how you think he'll do?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          No Ramires is great 🙂

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        2. Optimus.
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          He will score

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        3. Andy1
          • 14 Years
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          I think Liverpool will score.
          If they do, Suarez is more than likely to be involved. 7-8 points for me

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        4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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          Mikel is gonna be on him like a newly licked stamp

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          1. the axolotl
            • 12 Years
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            but has he got the saliva to go the whole game?

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            1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
              • 10 Years
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              Heard he hydrated so much he will have a baggie strapped around his calf

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              1. the axolotl
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                nice 🙂

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          2. Kreedas
            • 10 Years
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            Saurez will have both mikel and JT in his pocket all game he was so unlucky in the city game not to get another point haul

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        5. Xavi Iniesta
          • 10 Years
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          He'll score 1 and set 1 up. They'll beat Chelsea 2-1

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        6. Goaldigger
          • 12 Years
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          Around 7 is to be expected imo. Reliable but probably not the match he will typically explode with points.

          Like wally will.

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      • JT's Dog
          10 years, 5 months ago

          So Liverpool player unlikely to be rested due to only having 17 fit players.
          Chelsea defence likely to stay same, possibly lampard and Torres drafted in.
          Arsenal got one space to fill, possibly flamini , with chance of podolski in for giroud.
          Other than that ?

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          1. The Sarjeant
            • 10 Years
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            I'd love it if Walcott was out in place of Giroud.

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            1. The Sarjeant
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              *put in place

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              1. Kreedas
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                Oh gotcha

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              2. JT's Dog
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  I like him coming of the wing myself, sneaks in more

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                  1. MJ6987
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                    Yeah, he's not very good as a CF

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              3. Kreedas
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                would never happen

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                1. The Sarjeant
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                  Why? He's played CF for Arsenal before. He wants to play upfront. And Wenger has said Giroud needs a rest.

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                  1. Kreedas
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                    remark against wally being out for giroud mate 🙂

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            2. JWF
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              Along with the Ars, Liv and Che guys I need Newcastle to not mess around with their lineup; Cabaye and Remy to start please.

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              1. MJ6987
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                Can't see Newcastle messing with theirs. Arsenal will probably wait till the next game before Ozil gets his rest.

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          2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            So can we now say that with Marcos Alonso arriving that the only nailed on options in Sunderland's defence are Mannone, Brown and O'Shea?

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          3. Kreedas
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            Look at this guys team!

            http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/47762/event-history/19/

            Captained Anelka O.o

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            1. The Sarjeant
              • 10 Years
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              It's a dead team from gameweek 1.

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              1. Kreedas
                • 10 Years
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                but...... Anelka....... Captain!

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            2. Podge
              • 13 Years
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              Glasgow Heat from...Eritrea 🙂

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              1. JT's Dog
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  Twin towns I think

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              2. Robe Wan
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                • 11 Years
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                TV 96m

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            3. MSTRKRFTSMN
              • 10 Years
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              As any other game this season. Liverpool look a threat and will likely score, with Suarez likely to score or assist. Can't see it being a goal fest tomorrow but if there's action he'll be involved.

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              1. Kreedas
                • 10 Years
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                aye so glad i gave him the armband this week!

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              2. Optimus.
                • 13 Years
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                2-3 imo 🙂

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              3. Jafooli
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                I'm hoping for 5-5

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            4. MJ6987
              • 13 Years
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              Didn't realise this before. We'll get to see most of the teamsheets before the deadline in GW23! Demi Time!

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              1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
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                Most importantly for me United's team sheet

                We play Cardiff at home that day, fancy a punt on someone to go with Rooney, so I'll wait and see who plays, then get someone, then wc afterwards

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                1. MJ6987
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                  Yeah, true, a good time to punt on someone like Januzaj or Nani if they start

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              2. Tim Canterbury
                • 12 Years
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                Cashback!

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            5. Schürrle Class
              • 10 Years
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              6 points with Walcott captaincabaye coleman mertesacker suarez and lukaku.
              Should I be worried

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              1. MJ6987
                • 13 Years
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                Not unduly

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              2. Jafooli
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                1. Piggs Boson
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                  1. Piggs Boson
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                  2. JWF
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                    Incorrect! 'Your' is correct.

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                    1. Jafooli
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                  3. Jafooli
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                    1. Colonel Wasabi
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                2. Goaldigger
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                  Oh dear. And then what did she say?

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              3. Podge
                • 13 Years
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                Why, are you feeling ill ?

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            6. Werkself
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              • 11 Years
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              Anyone have a clue as to what the record for lowest average score has been at the end of a GW?

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              1. the axolotl
                • 12 Years
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                probably one from the recent bad winters, we'll have loads more points tomorrow. think i finished with 2 points one snowy week

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                1. Optimus.
                  • 13 Years
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                  If its the one i'm thinking of Tim Cahill got a brace when i had him vc..30+ that gw was huge 🙂

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              2. TorresMagic™
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                • 15 Years
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                Snow week a few years ago. City & Everton were the main winners.

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                1. Podge
                  • 13 Years
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                  I captained Tevez for about 30 points, average was about 5, what a week 🙂

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            7. Pedram
              • 10 Years
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              Moved up 10k place with 14 points.

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            8. Werkself
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              • 11 Years
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              I'm up to my chin in shit. Should I be worried??

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              1. MJ6987
                • 13 Years
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                Not unduly!

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                1. Werkself
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                  • 11 Years
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                  😀

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              2. Podge
                • 13 Years
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                If your feet are at the bottom you're ok if not then yes worry away 🙂

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                1. Robe Wan
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                  • 11 Years
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                  🙂

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                2. Werkself
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                  • 11 Years
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                  On my tippy toes...

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              3. Robe Wan
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                Depends which way up you are 😉

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            9. Messiah Hazard
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              • 12 Years
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              Chances of these two players starting on 01.01.2014:

              A) Flanagan
              B) RavMo

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              1. TD Champ
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Flanagan should be back

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            10. TD Champ
              • 10 Years
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              Should i save my FT for next GW, or make a transfer?

              Marshall - Etheridge
              Coleman - Flanagan - Kompany - Chester - Mertesacker
              Hazard - Sterling - Yaya - Januzaj - Walcott
              Suarez - Lukaku - Rooney

              Any transfer advices would be very appreciateted

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              1. Podge
                • 13 Years
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                Save

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            11. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
              • 11 Years
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              Sun Dream Team

              Q_ Who would be your 3 strikers in the Jan. window?

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              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 15 Years
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                Do 3 people play that game?

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              2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
                • 11 Years
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                Suarez, Aguero - if fit, Carroll - if fit.

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            12. 4-4-who?
              • 14 Years
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              Mutch saved my day. Silva (c) fail. Hope Suarez has a quiet day...

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