Dugout Discussion

World Cup 2014 – Dugout Discussion – Matchday One, Day Two

After Brazil got their tournament off to a winning start yesterday, we now have three matches to focus on this evening. The second match in Group A, between Mexico and Cameroon, gets underway at 5pm before Spain take on Holland in a repeat of the 2010 World Cup Final at 8pm and Chile face Group B underdogs Australia at 11pm:

Mexico’s Oribe Peralta looks a decent differential for some ahead of the early kick-off and, whilst Spain versus Holland may have deterred many from loading up on their options for the opener, the likes of Alexis Sanchez will be backed to deliver in the late night showdown as Chile look to grab the goals before their schedule takes a turn for the worse.

Mexico Ochoa; Aguilar, Moreno, Rodriguez, Marquez, Layun; Herrera, Vazquez, Guardado; Dos Santos, Peralta.

Cameroon Itandje; Djeugoue, Chedjou, Nkoulou, Assou-Ekotto; Mbia, Enoh, Song; Choupo Moting, Eto’o, Moukandjo.

Mexico’s starting XI suggests a continuation of their 5-3-2 formation. Paul Aguilar and Miguel Layun will be handed the wing-back berths, whilst further up the field, former Tottenham man Giovanni Dos Santos is likely to be fielded in a slightly more withdrawn role behind Oribe Peralta.

Cameroon look to be setting up in a 4-3-3 formation. There are a handful of surprise selections – at the back, Cedric Djeugoue and Benoit Assout-Ekotto are selected at right-back and left-back respectively, whilst the highly-rated duo Joel Matip and Vincent Aboubakar are handed bench-warming duties.

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  1. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Morning all

    Has anyone figured out if you can change captain between games yet?

    Would like to try JRod tonight, then switch to Cahill later

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    1. Cars and Mané
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Have to admit I haven't tried it yet, but pretty sure you can. Captaining one of my three Greek defenders then switching to Gerrard later hopefully.

      During the Brazil game it was allowing me to swap my captain around.

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    2. Hooper is a Bull.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Yep, I went Cillesen -> Sanchez

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  2. thebizzle
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Really unsure whether to swap Cillissen to Karnezis?

    Concerned about him conceding 2 or more.

    Makes 4 saves and concedes 2 = same points?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Spain GK conceded 5 & scores 10.

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      1. Elniñorules
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        😆

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    2. Louis
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Greece are quite tight at the back apparently. It should be worth it!

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    3. Marouane Fellatio
      • 11 Years
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      Its worth it. Looking at the other keeper points you shouldn't be much worse off and you've got an outside chance of a clean sheet or penalty save. I'd say he'll be busier than Cillesson too.

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    4. Cars and Mané
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      I've done exactly that swap... And I have two Greek defenders too...

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  3. Baines on Toast...
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Can't believe I didn't notice Robben was a mid on Telegraph, ruined an otherwise good start by not bothering switching him in for Pedro following the lineups.

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  4. Cars and Mané
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    Can someone explain to me how keepers are getting points for blocked shots?! At least according to the shared spreadsheet. Cheers

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      McDonalds are giving 2 for the price of 1 McHappy Meal Deals for saves.

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      1. Cars and Mané
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        • 12 Years
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        This is so silly. And that's not a word I use lightly

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  5. banskt
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    I think it must have discussed a lot of time, but can anybody be so kind to explain the points for Casillas.

    The google spreadsheet shows he has 12 points (will be 10 after 2 point deduction from GC).

    5 saves = 5
    90 mins played = 3
    YC = -1
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    So it adds up to 7.
    I think he was given 2 points for every save, which would make the total of 12
    ** But the Rules page on McD says 1 point per save for the goalkeeper.

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Currently Saves = Blocks = 5 x 2

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      1. banskt
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        But goalkeeper gets 1 point for blocks as well.

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      2. banskt
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        So you mean 5 saves and 5 blocks?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          Yes. They may fix it later.

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          1. banskt
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 days ago

            Thanks so much. Now I understand.

            Common sense tells that they will fix it later, reducing the points.

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          2. Zombie
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 days ago

            but that will be stupid. I want to switch captaincy to a keeper seeing that they are scoring more. But if they fix it later, I will lose my points coz of something they screwed up in the first place

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        2. Billy Gilmore
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          Yes, every save results in a save and a block for the keeper. Stupid, I know.

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    2. Marouane Fellatio
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      They will have already taken the 2 points off no?

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      1. banskt
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        Have they? Are you sure?

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  6. HVT
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Every time Casiallas took the ball out of the net McDs have classified that action as a " Recovered Ball " it seems.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      They were well deserved recovered balls tbf.

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  7. Nico.
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    How many players do we have tonight? 6 for me 🙂

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    1. Louis
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Karnezis, Holebas and Cuadrado

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      1. Nico.
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        Karnezis, Holebas, Konno, J. Rodriguez, Gerrard and Candreva 😀

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  8. Camp No No
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Valdivia, plays a great game and scores the winning goal, gets 8 points.

    Casillas, is utter crap and concedes 5 goals, gets 12.

    Just awesome. So, I reckon 9 is a pretty low GK score by these standards. Aim at 20, right?

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    1. Louis
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      By the rules on the McD Fifa website, Casillas should have:
      3 for 60+
      5 for saves
      -1 for yellow card
      -2 for goals conceded
      So if they go back to the rules, Casillas should only get 5 points.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        THIS ^^^!!!

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      2. HVT
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        You mean there are rules ?
        🙂

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  9. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Tell me that can't be so...Casillas on the same pts as RVP...SURELY NOT...

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    1. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Sure it is, because they were just equally good! 😆

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Casillas will score 10 after goals conceded is counted.

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    3. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Oh no, I'm not gonna miss this chance:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWihNBmupdI

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    4. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      You couldn't make this stuff up really !

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    5. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      That's the worst gaming decision I've ever seen on any game I've ever played...It's nonsense...

      The true scores should read something like

      Casillas 0

      RVP. 12

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      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        Agree , see below Mexico (cs) Gk scores less than Cass , total farce.

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      2. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        In the Telegraph game I am playing, Casillas has -3.

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        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          That's more like it.

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    6. Zombie
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Keepers can fart and score double digits going by current scoring system

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  10. 7heRealDeal
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Guys, Sneijder is showing 7 pts for me. They seem to have removed the RB, %PA and Delivery into penalty area bonuses!

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  11. Marouane Fellatio
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    How late can we leave our subs? For example can I sub in Karnezis when the lineups are announced?

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  12. HVT
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    How many points did the Mexican GK get ?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      9

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      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        Lol , terrible marking system.
        The whole thing is chaotic , not sure I'll continue playing at this rate ,
        What you make of the whole thing TM ?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          Better than FPL.

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        2. MJ6987
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          I'm glad I decided to steer clear of Maccy's. The signs were not good from the start!

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  13. Hooper is a Bull.
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Cillesen or Karnezis? Stick on 9 or twist?

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    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      I think a few are twisting , seems 20 is a good Gk score.

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    2. Camzy
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      I have 9 from Cesar and twistted.

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  14. Jafalad
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    10-6 England half time v ABs

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  15. Twelve years a slave
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    All blacks going to run away with second half

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Place a bet?

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    2. Twelve years a slave
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      told youse

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      1. Twelve years a slave
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        just trading on betfair

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  16. tomodbk
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Can you change capitan beetwean players on the sam day, did anybody try it yesterday ?
    for example Iniesta to Sanchez

    Tnx

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  17. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Credit to the Dutch last night. I never went for Blind because I didn't really think they would go for it against Spain..how wrong could I be..

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Moi aussi. 🙁

      But - I have van Persie! 🙂

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        Brill..Well done Doosra. Form over fixtures eh...Oh wait..err...He had none..err

        RVP over form over fixtures...!!!

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          That's it - you got it. 🙂

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    2. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      🙂

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Because you would have gone for him for him attacking returns?

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        No..because he was cheap, as I suspect most did..

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          Then what has them going for it against Spain got to do with it?

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    4. GreenWindmill
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      I cleverly avoided him as I thought their defence was dodgy.

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        Yep..I went for the safer option of Sergio Ramos...That went well !!!

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 14 Years
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        It is! 😀

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        1. GreenWindmill
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          Turns out that's an irrelevance though! We could have just had a raffle of all the players and I'd feel equally as in control! 😉

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            True. 🙁

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  18. Twelve years a slave
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Mexicn striker got me 9 . twist to Messi or stick

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    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Twist.

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    2. Blue Lion
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Twist it Comrade.
      Russian people have high hopes on you.

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  19. Twelve years a slave
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Who cares how many points the keepers get compared to the other positions.
    Your only playing against the other keepers, not like you can play more than one

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    1. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      I think the issue is that the game is a total lottery and any thought or effort that went into selecting a keeper is time that you will never get back again

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  20. King Henrik
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Still can't believe why people on here are wasting there time with the McDonald's Fantasy.
    Total waste of time . Ruining the whole buzz of the world cup

    Just enjoy the Fox fantasy football league in stead

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    1. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Decent WC FF (TFF, Fox) > no WC FF > McD's FF

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    2. GreenWindmill
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Many of us are committed as a result of a team game, pretty sure hardly anyone would play otherwise. I'm playing Fox too - feels like it actually rewards planning!

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        How does Fox reward planning? You can afford all the best players.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          That's the Mirror game.

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          The iron entered your soul, Billy? 🙂

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        3. GreenWindmill
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 days ago

          Not really, my defence is pretty cheap to afford good options up front, I came up a 5-way rotation of cheap players with good clean sheet chances. Any such planning is meaningless in McD's as the scoring is so unpredictable.

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 days ago

            Yeah, it obviously rewards planning more than McD, but so does everything else in the universe. I went for the cheap goodies like Azpi (lol) and in doing so benched Layun. Oh and Suarez(c) 😎

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            1. GreenWindmill
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              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 days ago

              Hehe, fair point 🙂

              I'm probably enjoying it more as I'm doing ok so far - Neymar (c), Sanchez and Valdivia have got me 34.

              By the way, none of my frustration at the McDonald's omnishambles is directed at you UEFA Council chaps, I understand the reasoning for the game choice, just a shame your faith was misplaced 🙁

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              1. Billy Gilmore
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 5 days ago

                Oh completely understand. I very much doubt I'd be playing McD if it wasn't for the game.

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                1. GreenWindmill
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                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 5 days ago

                  Cool, I kind of feel a twinge of guilt every time I moan about the Golden Farces game that people might think I'm unhappy with you guys. You've done a sterling job in the circumstances!

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                  1. Billy Gilmore
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 5 days ago

                    I must admit it's been a bit like this at times 🙂

                    http://suitupbros.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/suicidal-barney.gif

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                    1. GreenWindmill
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                      • 12 Years
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                      You in particular have fronted it up admirably 🙂

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              2. Camp No No
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 5 days ago

                I have the same players, so I'm doing just as well. Yet I'm not enjoying this disaster at all.

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                1. GreenWindmill
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                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 5 days ago

                  Fox is a disaster?

                  The allocation of points is definitely slow but the game engine seems sound.

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    3. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Wish i had entered it, unfortunately mcds is all i have fantasy wise. Of course i could just enjoy the football which to be fair i am doing regardless

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  21. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Bloody hell!

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  22. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    The Mirror FF is also very slow ... 😕

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    1. Holy See
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Shocking. Not sure why we bothered, they most certainly haven't!

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    2. Beavis
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      So is the Fox game to update.

      Whole fantasy football situation for the WC is a massive joke at the moment.

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  23. Les Bleus
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    So are those playing McD gonna go with a 532 or 541 formation from here on out considering the crazy points defenders get? It's the exact opposite in mirror where you get -1 for every goal conceded. So Ramos for example got a -3 yesterday!

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    1. GreenWindmill
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      Seems like it could be a good play, shame we can't play 3 goalies 😉

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  24. r0nh
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Some player got me some points, should I sub him for another player that may get me more points?

    I couldnt sleep last night worrying about it.

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    1. TokyoRed 東京赤
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      He might not get you more points. Sounds like a bit of a gamble to me.

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      1. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 days ago

        YOLO

        #.com

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  25. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    What was that Evs about England?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 days ago

      NZ just scored.

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  26. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Feckkkk hold onnnnn

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  27. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Forward pass.

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  28. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    It's falling apart. 🙁

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  29. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    mornin all anyone watching the excellent 1978 world cup documentary on bbc2 ....... !!

    the hair of leonardo cuellar 😯

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  30. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 days ago

    Hmm

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