Dugout Discussion

Dugout Discussion – England vs Iceland

England and Iceland go head-to-head at 8pm as the Euro 2016 Round of 16 comes to an end.

Both sides were runners-up in their respective groups on the back of a win and two draws apiece, though there’s no question that the underlying stats are in favour of the Three Lions.

Given that Iceland have averaged just 28.3% possession so far, it’s fair to say that their opponents will be expected to dominate proceedings as the Scandinavians sit deep. As we saw against Slovakia, though, Roy Hodson’s side have toiled to break down obstinate opponents – they registered 29 unsuccessful attempts in their goalless draw against Slovakia.

England produced almost three times the number of attempts on goal (64 to 23) than their opponents over the group stages, though despite a wealth of options in the final third, currently lack a cutting edge and have scored just three times so far.

Iceland have found the net on more occasions (four) but given they’ve managed just nine shots on target, it remains to be seen if they can maintain a lofty 17.4% goal conversion rate – the highest in the tournament.

At the back, England again have reason for optimism. Hodgson’s men allowed a single big chance against in the group stages – less than any other side – and conceded just 11 efforts inside the box.

Iceland, on the other hand, have afforded the opposition 25 efforts in the penalty area, which bodes well for the Three Lions’ chances of grabbing the win that would see them square up to tournament favourites France in the quarter-final stage next time out.

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  1. kamdaraji
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Oh dear England

  2. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    so I need to replace Dier, Perisic, DDG and Rami..

    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Dier & rami need to go for me too

      How much is that German defender who had broke into the side , Kimmich is it ?

      1. VS10_
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        midfielder

        1. Leaf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Oh , Back to the drawing board

  3. kamdaraji
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    I vote Brian Clough new England manager

  4. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Awks

    We lost to a supermarket

  5. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    https://mobile.twitter.com/richardajkeys/status/747121354084843520

    Joachim low at it again. This guys got serious issues

    1. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah, the way he's not so much scratching but checking his body odour, I fear he's got some nasty disease.

      1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Don't know wether to laugh or cry

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Or vomit, perhaps.

    2. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      He's got no self control, but clearly his issues are less serious than Hodgson's.

  6. GreennRed
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone going for 2 or 3 4m and maxing up on the remainder?

    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      No 4 game days next done think it's still about the squad

      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        True. But with 12 starters gives more scope for 6FT in semis, in my head !

  7. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    NorWay could it happen again? Maggie Thatcher, but your boys took hell of a beating ....

  8. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Sam Allardyce for England manager.

    1. Zasa
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Those long-ball tactics will trick all the Europeans when they press 😉

  9. MachuMichu
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    What do you think about this team for quarter-finals:

    Patricio
    Hector - Koscielny - Vermaelen - Meunier
    Nani - Hazard - Payet
    Griezmann - Lukaku (c) - CR7

    Any suggestions?

    1. Delima
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Vermaelen banned for match against Wales.

      1. MachuMichu
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Thank you very much 🙂

    2. willl
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      nani is a forward

    3. milanista10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Change Vermaelen if this is a WC team (he is banned)

  10. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Lagerbäck after the game when told Woy resigned, 'that's the only sorrow in this, cause it was Bob(Houghton) and him that brought me in, teached me and even if it sounds strange he is a part of this success. A small part but still a part as one of my first mentors, if it wasn't for Bob and him I would maybe not have reached this far in my career'.

    Also said he felt quite calm during the game and that Iceland also had the best scoring chances besides the goals and that as Englands desperation grew everything just got easier. Thought Iceland played close to perfect in defence todqy but not yet pleased overall, still things to improve.

    1. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Good analysis is always a good sign, isn't it. 😀 Also, very respectful from him, deserving respect in turn.

      Go the whipping boys!

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        He is a class act for sure, as is Roy!

        Yep, I heard from the Swedish France correspondent that they aren't entirely happy with this. No one knows anything about Iceland and they are walking on water right now.
        GO whipping boys indeed!!!

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          I wouldn't suppose they are happy to play Iceland after this, indeed. It's clear Iceland was better than England, anyway, and against England, I think France would have known what to do, and also could trust on being better. But Iceland is another thing completely. I'm sure England know how Iceland play their set pieces and had practiced defending them. Yet the first throw in lead to a goal. France's defensive 6 (GK and DM included) have hardly played together, and have problems in defending set pieces already. they have to figure out how to defend against that. I think France will do much better job in opening that Iceland defence than England did though.

          1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            Yep, you have a point there about France being more able to break through and opening up the defence.

            Do you know who is likely to come in for Rami now?
            Will it be a straight swap or some sort of reshuffle?

            1. Camp No No
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 11 months ago

              Koscielny moving to right in any case, then it can be either Umtiti or Mangala, most likely the latter although everybody in France seems to prefer Umtiti, and I can totally see why. Mangala is sheet, but not a clean sheet.

              1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 11 months ago

                🙂
                Thanks!

                1. Camp No No
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 11 months ago

                  No probs.

  11. kamdaraji
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Press update: Roy Hodgson resigns from fantasy football!

  12. VS10_
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Guerreiro, Giaccherini, Meunier and Hazard in. Hopefully I get their this weeks points as well. 😎

    1. milanista10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Haha anything can happen in this game.. Good players in however.. How was your day?

      1. VS10_
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Not good, overall was 27 and lost 3 points today. 🙂

        You're doing well, keep it up.

        1. VS10_
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          overall rank

        2. milanista10
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Oops harsh! Had Dier (C) I assume?

          Thank you 🙂

          1. VS10_
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            yep, can play a bit more stress-free now that there will be a big rank drop.

            1. milanista10
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 11 months ago

              Let's wait and see but you shouldn't be that far from the top - points are too close up there

    2. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Guerreiro didn't train today. so watch out

      1. VS10_
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Oh no, Rafa doing this again for me. Need him as an enabler...

      2. JÆKS ⭐
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Any idea why not?

      3. VS10_
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        And thanks for the info, looks like we smashed Northern Ireland and are through.

      4. milanista10
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        First game in the QF, we can check their lineups before transferring him in 🙂

    3. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Guerreiro nailed? Great enabler at that price as well....

  13. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Clear-cut chances created for England at Euro 2016:
    2 - Henderson
    1 - Lallana, Wilshere

    3 clear cut chances. 2 from a player who barely played. Farcical

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      4*

      1. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Funny how everyone wanted these 3 out of the team. In a 4-3-3 formation Hodgson's midfield basically consisted of a striker, a defender, and one inexperienced midfielder.

  14. HVT
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Someone said earlier before the KO that this game was made for Barkley, might have a point in hindsight, England needed something/someone different.

      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Who is Barkley?

      Just another over-hyoed English "great prospect". Wouldn't change anything in hindsight, imo.

        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        over-hyped*

      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        No one really, just saying-he never got a chance in this tournament, might have been worth the risk. We will never know Johnski.

          • 10 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          I think Albrighton and Drinkwater would have been better 'risks' than Barkley but we'll never know thanks to Roy.

          shrug.emoji

    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Maybe so , I criticised this ...certainly worth a try

      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Nice to see some honesty in here leaf, thanks.
        I'm going mad for Roy if I'm honest.

    2. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Massive fan of Barkley.. can take the ball in the centre of the park and ghost past players when he is on top of his game.. form tailed off quite dramatically towards end of season though..

      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        His style as you correctly state might have opened the door, it's an if - just saying.

      2. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Wilshere can do that as well...but can't do anything when the rest of the midfield is not in motion.

  15. ryacoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Apart from Hazard, which midfielders is everyone looking at bringing in?

    There doesn't seem to be any good mid-priced options 🙁

      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      I'm Wildcarding - looking to have a midfield of Hazard, KDB, Payet, Grosicki and Pogba.

    1. willl
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      blas or draxler

    2. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Blaszy? Grosicki? Ramsey?

  16. Camp No No
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Jaks around?

    1. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Here I am!

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Hey, any news of how Wilmots will organise the defence without Vermaelen? Could he finally play the Spurs CB pair together, and give Lukaku a run on left side?

        1. JÆKS ⭐
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          This is what is most likely going to happen. However he wouldn't tell the press what he was going to do. I might nominate Vermaelen for defender of the tournament so far though 😉

          1. Camp No No
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            But that Spurs CB pair just could work wonders and with actual laterals on both sides you could find new dimensions of your team. That could be a blessing in disguise.

            Also, what Lukaku and Meunier both playing would mean for fantasy football? 😀

            1. JÆKS ⭐
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 11 months ago

              Hmm not sure, big loss in defence though. Both started their carreers as wingers and are now backs, so lots of attacking potential. Both will want to go forward a lot but Wilmots will probably keep them at the back as much as possible 😀

              Not sure if there will be any difference for fantasy potential of other Belgium players...

              1. Camp No No
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 11 months ago

                I think, firstly, there will be, because particularly Hazard would thrive if he got more support on his flank, but moreover, I'm thinking of having both Lukaku and Meunier in my team, that's the fantasy potential I was thinking of.

                1. JÆKS ⭐
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 11 months ago

                  Well Meunier for sure, Lukaku hmm. It's still not sure this is how we will play 😀 Maybe he'll play Denayer instead of Vermaelen.

                  1. Camp No No
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 11 months ago

                    Yeah, that's the risk. Just thinking, IF both Lukaku and Meunier would play, I'd want to have them in my team. Dirt cheap, very attacking laterals, in a dominant team with big forwards. What's not to like?

                    1. JÆKS ⭐
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 11 months ago

                      Well I guess you have more confidence in our defence than I do 😀

                      But indeed, both have a lot of attacking potential. However, you could see in the first game that Meunier went forward a lot and Vertonghen stayed behind, while they switched roles in the second game. Almost seems like Wilmots chooses 1 of the 2 backs to go forward... 😀

  17. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Imagine have a resignation speech prepared before a knockout game. Nearly as small minded as Ronaldo

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      He probably wrote it long before the tournament started in fairness.

  18. kamdaraji
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Iceland give them their due. They have punched above their weight all tournament

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      They qualified from a group including Holland, Czech Republic and Turkey conceding just 6 goals. Yet the ITV commentator after France beat us said that France would play England next?

  19. The Iron Tulip
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    And it's started - https://youtu.be/hf7-bhElnXg

  20. Knowledgeable meerkat
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Scorecheck for this match day? I'm on 48, no idea what a decent score is after these results

    1. Odikostar
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Around 58

    2. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      I went down from yesterday, that's all I know.

  21. Cheeseoid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    England need Ranieri!

    1. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      This!! 😀

    2. kamdaraji
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      They need Houdini

      1. LǝgleSs e|even
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        This

  22. Garfield1001
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    With Lukaku and KDB, do you look to bring in Hazard also?

    1. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Plays in Lille where it all started for him as a footballer, I think he will be extra motivated for the game

  23. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Gareth Southgate heads the betting for the next England manager ? . I know Capello did not work out but they should not give up on managers from other countries.

    1. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Optimus was right England should just retire from international football

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        😆 😆 😆

    2. HVT
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      MON?

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        They will have to fight us 🙂

  24. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    FA should convince Pelegrinni. He's class. Doubt he'd take it.

    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Good call, Moyes had crossed my mind too.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Moyes would bottle it at a tournament I think. He's too small time.

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Hodgson was paid £3.5million per year ? . Who wouldn't want the job ?

    3. Zasa
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Definitely a good pick. Not sure why people are so persistent on an English coach, you guys could definitely pick up a top 4 CL/WC/EU proven manager. Most of these English managers just fail to adapt their tactics & adhere to old systems.

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        10 years of Lampard , Gerrard midfield partnership case in point .

        1. Zasa
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Holy shiet, hadn't realized 😯 Yeah mate, either what Parisse said or a proven foreign manager. A whole new system is in dire need right now.

    4. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      I think they should be looking for young managers, they are the ones that are getting the results.

        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Give Becks or Lamps a 20 year contract and be done with the notion that an actual really good manager will choose the England national team over a juicy Premier League contract.

        1. ktongue
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Second this notion!

  25. HVT
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    WC active, overloaded on England players!
    Hart/Walker/Alli-what was I thinking!
    🙁

    1. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Dier (C), what was I thinking!! 😀

      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Lol-dodged that bullet, stayed on KDB!

    2. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Had 4 and captained one... game over lol

  26. Dušan Citizen
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    I am little late to the party, but WELL DONE, HEROES! CMON ICELAND!

    I have feeling that I support them more than I would support Serbia! Just hope they won't be robbed against France.

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Totally confused by the 2nd paragraph.

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Liverpool fans are often confused 😀

  27. Fergietime
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Massive homecoming for Seamie Coleman in his hometown right now.

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Great stuff. They all did us proud.

  28. GuyIncognito
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    I guess we shouldn't be so surprised that a team full of players who spent the last year bottling it against Leicester bottled it against the international version of Leicester.

  29. FPL Maldini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    As an Italy fan (half English too) at the start of this day I was convinced Italy were going out and England were through.

    I know nothing. God knows how I won my FPL mini league