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Dugout Discussion – West Ham vs Liverpool

After just four goals in the afternoon matches, we could feasibly beat that in the final kick-off as West Ham host Liverpool at the London Stadium.

Having won this game 4-0 last season, the Reds will be heavily fancied to run out victors again, particularly after the revelation that Sadio Mane is fit to return to their starting XI.

The Senegalese gets the nod, with Daniel Sturridge dropping out of Liverpool’s front three to make way. Elsewhere, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain earns a first Premier League start in midfield.

However, it’s fair to say that the main focus will be on Mohamed Salah who goes into this contest with five goals from his ten Gameweeks, backed by almost two million owners and with 250,000+ trusting him with the captaincy.

West Ham’s Fantasy assets have long been in decline. Chicharito remains by far their most popular asset, figuring in 13.1% of squads, though he has lost 384,000 owners in the last four Gameweeks.

With injuries and suspensions at the back, it’s expected that they will struggle to repel Jurgen Klopp’s charges.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Patch
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    If its any consolation, the risers for the immediate term - pending tomorrow's games:

    Kane, Kun, Sterling, Pope, Mee, DDG, Salah, Richarlison, Hazard (+also strangely Hunemiser)

    1. El_Shaw
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Normally don't like doing early transfers but had to get Pope in tonight.

      1. Patch
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Fplstats also rates Hunemiser dude...maybe cos he is so cheap that everyone takes him as an option...may get a 0.1 gain over the medium term perhaps...

        Otherwise just stays as my bench fodder

  2. Weasel51
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Jesus + Davies >>> Lukaku + Jones (-4)

    Yay or nay?

    1. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Yay

  3. Les Bleus
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Why are people second guessing Salah and thinking of going Mane or Coutinho. Stop kidding yourselves.

    1. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I've actually been waiting for Mane to return so I can get him back instead...but now I'm really not sure

      1. Les Bleus
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Salah has 12 goals this season already. I don’t see the obvious conundrum to be honest

        1. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Salah has played a lot more, so not a completely fair comparison - both great options though obviously

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            he also played centrally today and got his biggest score of the season...if he continues in that role then I would definitely agree with you - with both playing on the wings it is very close

            1. Monkey Hanger
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Klopp said he started with a 442. First time this season I think.

              1. SADIO SANÉ
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                yeah, it is

    2. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Double with Salah Mane.

      1. Les Bleus
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Tough with City and Tottenham assets to fit in too.

  4. pundit of punts
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Wait for it

    I'm gonna get some more booze and some other stuff

    BRB

    1. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      As a well repected poster would say
      Go clean on.

      1. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        😀

  5. eoan
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Burnley cleansheet - 21% chance. what the heck bookies?

    1. Robben Mee Blind
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah those odds put me off. Should've gone with my gut and played my Burnley boys

    2. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      You don't get it do you ?
      By kick off time odds are a reflection of the amount liabilities held by the bookies and NOT the chances of something happening. So actually it's the punters who are wrong.

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        no one is wrong - something could have a 2% chance of happening and still happen, obviously

        1. George Sillett
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          You are right . He was just looking to blame someone,

          1. eoan
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            This is correct

          2. SADIO SANÉ
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            yeah, true

      2. eoan
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        It's a bit of both, reflection of the bets and also what their own statistical analysis tells them might happen.

        1. George Sillett
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          No its not really . When prices first come out it is the odds compilers opinion . After that it is purely down to liabilities. Over rounds on football games are only generally around the 2% mark so prices have to be adjusted quickly as the liabilities fluctuate.

          1. eoan
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Ah well I apologize, I have misunderstood then.

            1. George Sillett
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              No probs. All is good.

      3. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Wisdom of the crowd and all that.....

  6. Scratch
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Just when you thought it couldn't possibly get any worse for West Ham... David Moyes is odds-on favourite to get the job

  7. Hardly Athletic
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    2FT and 0.0ITB. Already played wildcard.

    Elliot - Foster
    Alonso - Duffy - Zanka - Britos - Mbemba
    Salah - Silva - Sterling - Richarlison - TCarroll
    Kane - Jesus - Firmino

    Thinking of doing Jesus + Sterling > Aguero + Zaha.

    1. eoan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Lukaku instead.

    2. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Sterling to Eriksen and Firmino to Abraham.

  8. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    How did Abraham look today?

    1. Monkey Hanger
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Should of had a last minute assist. Only bit of the match I listened to was the last five mins.

    2. Guba
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Like he was playing with Swansea level players. Did well I thought considering the atrocious performance from his peers, I've never seen so many free kicks and corners go out of play.

    3. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      he had a couple of decent chances and the aforementioned near assist. swansea were terrible

    4. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Good, talent shines through given that he still looks a threat in a side that bad. Had a few chances which resulted in blocks and should have had an assist.

  9. PL Ball
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Average score?

    1. Monkey Hanger
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      17 from fourish players.

  10. Man Chest Hair United
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Having both Yedlin and Elliot conceding in the 92nd cost me 11 points

    1. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Same

  11. Danstoke82
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I already own Kane so..

    Eriksen > Salah 1FT

    Yay or nay?

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Both.

    2. Les Bleus
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Who are your other mids. Would prefer to have both.

      1. Danstoke82
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        elliot
        Jones Stones Mee Naughton
        Eriksen Silva Richarlison
        Kane Kun Morata

        £0.0ITB

    3. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I have all 3. it's the way to go I think

  12. TheTinman
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    38pts Kane(c) Eriksen and Silva to go. Rather meh. Just about everyone got Salads pts and I bet most have 6 or so to play tomorrow

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Surprisingly few have Salah in my ML (money league) 🙂

    2. Essan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I have 8 to play tomorrow.

      But only 5pts so far .....

    3. Guba
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      To be honest considering you've still got your captain you're in a good position.

      If you think the average this week is 16-17, the three players you've had playing over the others have allowed for 21 more points, or 7 on average. If Kane does well you're laughing.

    4. KEN YA DIG IT
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      36 Kane(c),silva,jesus,jones

  13. Deano
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Quick poll. Who will be lumped with the WHU job?

    A. BFS

    B. Moyes

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      B lol

    2. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      BFS won't go back to a club who were ungrateful for what he achieved there.

      1. Deano
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Noble a coaching possibility then? Surely he announces his playing retirement after tonight.

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Chris Coleman

    4. SuperMane Returns
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      A - is that also a rip-off sofa company?

      1. Deano
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Sofa company with very worn out springs!

  14. JustPark
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Ward on -99.9 and dropping!

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      People on WC are switching to Mee. He won't drop.

    2. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      you've got the wrong one mate

      1. _figu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Me? With current prices I'd pick Mee for sure. Got Ward 4.5

        1. F4L
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          no no, its the Palace Ward dropping

    3. Les Bleus
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Is that the Burnley Ward?

      1. JustPark
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        :smirk:

      2. Patch
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        No FPL stats saying crystal version

        The ones to keep an eye on for a quick profit

        Kane, Kun, Sterling, Pope, Mee, DDG, Salah, Richarlison, Hazard (+also strangely Hunemiser)

        1. SuperMane Returns
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Have 6 of those so quite happy

    4. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Palace ward, lol

      1. _figu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Oh, I didn't bother to check haha.

  15. AttackAttackAttack
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Would appreciate your thoughts on my wc:

    Pope, Elliott
    Jones, mee, Moreno, duffy, chilwell
    Salah, mane, sane, sterling, risharlison
    Kane, aguero, quaner

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      yeah decent

    2. S.Kuqi
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Looks really good

      1. AttackAttackAttack
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers guys.

  16. Foozeball
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I hope Kane can justify choosing him over Salah

    Don't want to be thinking this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubw5N8iVDHI

  17. Fred54
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Hadergjonaj. What a name.

    Won't someone please think of Chris Kamara though.

  18. Differentiator
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Foster -> Pope done.

    You won't be missed.

  19. AzzaroMax99
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Bavies isn't playing tomorrow or it's just people's guessing?

    1. TooDifficuIt
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      guessing

    2. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Hope not, got Mee first sub! Feel he could play left side of a back three though

    3. LÖrKingMuch
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      People guessing, thinking he'll be at risk of rotation

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Hope he does as Fernández 1 point off bench otherwise

      1. SuperMane Returns
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Exactly the same for me

  20. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Was Stanislas mentioned in the presser about a return date?

    1. JustPark
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Forget about him.

    2. Deano
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      No, but was quoted as not as bad as first feared. With his injury history though, will be some time before he’s back full time.

    3. Ted Bovis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Yes, they are hopeful it isn't as bad as feared but need to look at scans to confirm
      http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/Sport/15638593.Howe_hopeful_of_Stanislas_injury_boost/

    4. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks.

  21. We Will Klopp you
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Fabianski to Pope done. Hopefully he'll get enough rises for me to get Heaton on return

    1. Ode
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Clever transfer

    2. Pranav Santhosh
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      International break ahead risky to use FT before gw is even over

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I'll take a hit if needs be but I'll take my chances, rare I actually get any of these IB injuries

  22. Ask Yourself
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    2FT 1.2m itb

    Thinking Foster > DDG and waiting out for any int. injuries

    Foster // Elliot

    Jones Duffy Ward // Naughton Long

    Salah Hazard Silva Richarlison // Carroll

    Lukaku Kane Abraham

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      It's an option for sure. I just think he's a bit too expensive. We won't keep clean sheets at this rate. Pope and upgrade Long.

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        You think? Was gonna downgrade silva and go long > Luiz but it gives me other options that

  23. Squires FC
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Wc active
    De gea elliot
    Jones vertonghen mee dunk Chilwell
    Salah sterling Zaha richarlison
    Kane morata firmino

    Feedback appreciated

    1. Squires FC
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      & rlc

    2. JustPark
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Looks good on paper.

    3. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I don't get why I'm seeing Chilwell in these teams. Am I missing something?

      1. Monkey Hanger
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Cruel played him as a wing back in his first game in charge. That and his price 4.3mil.

        1. DV8R
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          So is he nailed?

          1. Monkey Hanger
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Didn't start today. Appears not.

    4. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Looks tidy, don't think you need Firmino though, get someone cheap and reinvest the extra cash imo

    5. Pranav Santhosh
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Is chilwell going to play? Need 15 active players from gw12 onwards

      1. Monkey Hanger
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Could be a one match wonder. Didn't start today.

    6. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Firmino is useless.

      1. Squires FC
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I'm keeping the faith due to fixtures

    7. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      No Lukaku.

    8. grifster69
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Get rid if Firmino, Sane for sterling. Jury out on Morata...

  24. Stevie B
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    A really bad saturday. Ward and Duffy on bench. More points on bench than on field. But I checked the clean sheet odds on the bookmakers websites.

    1. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      See above.

      1. Stevie B
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Thank you!

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Sympathise. I got 12 from 4 beaten by my 13 from 2 on bench

      1. Stevie B
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Thank you. This was kind. Thank you! I can only hope that Sterling will not play.

  25. fiveyears
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Sort of fancy Mane to get better returns against teams who sit back at Anfield a bit, but Salah's stats are pretty silly. Have to own one for sure.

  26. Foozeball
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I think it's time to get ride of Foster and get Pope. Hate using precious FTs on GKs though :/

    1. Foozeball
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      *rid of

  27. ooooo
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    sorry for rp didnt get any replies
    Vardy + Jesus + Ryan to Abraham + Lukaku(C) + DDG(-4)

    Do it?
    A) Yes
    B) No

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Yes

    2. grifster69
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      No...

    3. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      personally I wouldnt

    4. Foozeball
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Why would you want to get rid of Ryan? Brighton have been pretty good at getting CS lately and they've got Stoke and Palace at home in 2 of the next 3 fixtures

      1. ooooo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        But would rather have De Gea

      2. ooooo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        And I have Dunk

    5. Prøfeßör …
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      No, keep Ryan if you have him.

  28. grifster69
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Is it time to wildcard this lot...
    *indicate DROSS

    Elliot Foster*
    Jones, Davies, Naughton, Cresswell*, Suttner*
    Salah, Silva,Sterling, Atsu*, Carroll*,
    Aguero, Kane, Gabbadini*

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      groß?

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      anyone with Gabbi should WC immediately

    3. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Yes

  29. GXNG
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Do we think Sanchez can score well tomorrow? Should I have gone him to Salah for a -4.

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      captain hindsight says yes

  30. jimmy.floyd
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Forster Stones Eriksen to
    De Gea Azpilucueta Hazard?

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      no