Scout Notes

How Salah and Liverpool exploited Arsenal’s woeful defence

Our final write-up of Gameweek 20 is from Saturday night’s match at Anfield.

The main Fantasy talking points, goal details, manager quotes and injury news are all included in our analysis of Liverpool’s five-goal hammering of Arsenal.

Liverpool 5-1 Arsenal

  • Goals: Roberto Firmino (£9.1m) x3, Mohamed Salah (£13.3m), Sadio Mane (£9.5m) | Ainsley Maitland-Niles (£4.4m)
  • Assists: Mohamed Salah, Dejan Lovren (£4.9m) | Alex Iwobi (£5.4m)

Jurgen Klopp paid tribute to Liverpool’s attacking assets after yet another exhilarating display going forward, even if the Reds were helped along the way by some suicidal Arsenal defending.

Klopp’s side bounced back from a goal down to run out 5-1 winners on Saturday, with Roberto Firmino (£9.1m), Mohamed Salah (£13.3m) and Sadio Mane (£9.5m) all scoring and producing excellent displays up top.

The Liverpool boss said:

The reaction [to going behind] was obviously brilliant, absolutely brilliant. We didn’t concede a lot of goals obviously this year so you never know exactly how the reaction will be if you concede one, especially the first in the game, but the reaction was brilliant, just outstanding. We increased the intensity again a little bit, immediately put them under pressure again.

Unfortunately, I don’t know exactly how it was around the first goal, I saw the goal then but I forgot how it was, but I know the second goal was just brilliant defending. Sadio comes inside, puts the defender under pressure, wins the ball back then bam – Bobby goes more or less through the wall and scores that fantastic goal.

The [fourth] one was a penalty, Mo in a one-on-one situation going in the box is always difficult for the defender and he finished that off with a fantastic penalty, and then the [other] one I just love because it’s again a goal after a second ball off a set-piece. We pass, pass, then Mo is there and can bring the ball in again and Sadio can finish it. So, good.

Two of Liverpool’s goals came from the penalty spot, while the fact that Firmino’s first two strikes had no Fantasy assists attached to them underscored just how compliant Arsenal’s backline had been in gifting Liverpool several of their goals.

Firmino deserves immense credit after his jinking run put Liverpool 2-1 up but Arsenal’s hapless defenders played a big part on Saturday, particularly in the equalising goal when Stephan Lichtsteiner (£4.5m) crashed the ball off Shkodran Mustafi (£5.4m) and into the Brazilian’s path.

Salah scored from the penalty spot for the second game running and his contribution was for once overshadowed by one of his colleagues, but this was another superb display from the Egyptian: Salah’s first-time assist for Mane’s goal and his backheeled flick to set up a Fabinho (£5.5m) chance were particularly deserving of mention. Only Raheem Sterling (£11.3m) registered more penalty box touches than Salah in Gameweek 13, with FPL’s most expensive player again lining up as the spearhead of the Liverpool attack in this encounter.

That Salah has delivered 12-point hauls in each of the last two Gameweeks (and indeed in the fixture before that) while having only two attempts on goal from open play is a particularly terrifying prospect for non-owners once he gets his shooting boots on.

Mane and Firmino have come in for their share of criticism this season in Fantasy circles and beyond but the pair were both excellent on Saturday.

Over 70,000 FPL managers have snapped up Firmino since Gameweek 20, which does seem a little “kneejerk” given that he had two goals in his previous 14 league outings and that he continues to be played variously in deeper/wider positions.

The nature of this hat-trick was also fairly fortuitous, with Salah gifting Firmino Liverpool’s second penalty to complete his treble – to the chagrin of the Egyptian’s owners.

Klopp said of that gesture:

We scored the fifth and 2018 ends with a Christmas present from Mo Salah. I love it, the gesture, I love it. He gives the ball to Bobby and he can score a hat-trick, so that’s just nice. In the moment I was not too happy because in training Bobby doesn’t finish penalties too often, to be honest, but obviously today it was his day [and that’s] absolutely OK.

Arsenal deserve some credit for their attacking performance, with Ainsley Maitland-Niles (£4.4m) and Alex Iwobi (£5.4m) performing well on the flanks and combining for Arsenal’s opening goal.

The Gunners cut Liverpool open on a handful of occasions and Klopp again highlighted the drawbacks of a 4-2-3-1, a system he surely won’t employ for the trip to the Etihad on Thursday:

Could we have played better in the first half? Yes, of course. Could we have defended better in the first half? Yes. We were a bit too open, a bit too wide in the formation. Arsenal is a really good football team and after ten minutes we already forced them to play long balls but after 20 minutes they again played football, because we didn’t adapt in the right way.

We wanted to change that in half-time and obviously did that, but we needed then a substitution [with] bringing Hendo to close the half-spaces because Ramsey was constantly in the half-spaces. [That] makes life a little bit uncomfortable with only two central midfielders, so we put in a third one and controlled that.

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£11.4m) didn’t really get a sniff, registering only one headed half-chance, though his withdrawal on 71 minutes will perhaps provide the Gabonese forward’s owners with some hope regarding his chances of starting against Fulham in Gameweek 21.

Emery meanwhile confirmed that Mesut Ozil (£8.0m) missed out through injury:

His knee. I don’t know if it’s big or not big, but it’s his knee.

Liverpool XI (4-2-3-1): Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Van Dijk, Robertson (Clyne 83′); Wijnaldum (Lallana 78′), Fabinho; Shaqiri, Firmino, Mane (Henderson 62′); Salah.

Arsenal XI (4-2-3-1): Leno; Lichtsteiner, Sokratis, Mustafi (Koscielny 46′), Kolasinac (Guendouzi 80′); Torreira, Xhaka; Maitland-Niles, Ramsey, Iwobi; Aubameyang (Lacazette 71′).

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1,267 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone else being put off captainng Haz due to Giroud, Pedro injuries and Morata's likely inclusion in starting 11?

    1. Orion
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Still on Haz C

    2. BIG TONES
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Gut says Hazard so I'm sticking with it. Not the easiest choice as I also own Kane and Auba, but Spurs look tired and Fulham seemed to have tightened up a bit under Ranieri. Add to this, Soton were cut apart by City and they seem to press really hard under their new manager, which is a bit naive against bigger teams.

      1. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        completely this

    3. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Well, Giroud played last game and it wasn't helpful for Hazard.
      Morata is a bit of a downer.. its just such a nice fixture, hard to look past it.

      1. Tev
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Not the biggest fan of Morata either, but wouldn’t call him a downer 😉

        1. yakirh
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 4 months ago

          I'm sorry if its a bit harsh.. but he's just terrible
          I hope that Higuain - Morata deal will come through

    4. InSaneMan-e
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      I've been burnt by haz manj times so I'll go for Kane.
      Tbh there's reasons against haz Kane and even salah.
      Don't own auba but hopeing the 3 i do own score evenly

    5. clodhopper
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Haz back up front

  2. trustmeimpurple
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    What to do with this team??
    2FT0ITB
    Fab(Boruc)
    Digne, VVD, Doherty(WB,Valery)
    Sterling,Son,Martial,Fanderson(Gunnarson)
    Aub, Kane, JimineZ

    Should I downgrade aub/Kane to upgrade midfield or just transfer Sterling to Haz?

    1. Denver Omelette
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Sterling -> Hazard
      Son -> Pogba
      Seems popular

  3. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Think Im going to bite the bullet and get in Salah again after City game... Kane likely to be the fall guy.

    Rich + Kane -> Salah + Jiminez

    1. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      I actually think Spurs vs UTD could be a high-scoring game
      There will be talks about Kane to Aguero in a few days, I'm leaning towards keeping him.

    2. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      dumping kane for salah is a no for me.I would like to have all 4 of these players preferably till gw28

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Thats impossible with Pogba, Hazard, Martial, Auba etc in the mix for me.

    3. BIG TONES
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      I'm getting him in after City as well. Kane or Auba to leave my team, probably Auba at this stage.

    4. InSaneMan-e
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Yea I took hits to get salah before his price rise this morning. I wanted to wait after city but he's essential.
      But not sure if you should ditch Kane. Fixtures are still good

    5. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      I think Kane will be the fall guy for many a transfer soon - Wilson, Jiminez, Arnie, Ings ... even Rondon etc ... all good in power of 3 strike force

  4. Where dahoud at
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    This is my current team, as it stands i have 2ft i havent a clue what to do, im thankn on maken 3 transfers and taken a -4, what would you do?

    Lloris
    Laporte, shaw, luiz, Pereira
    Salah, de bruyne, pogba, snodgrass
    Kane, rashford

    Bench, hamer, rondon, Torreira, awb

    1. InSaneMan-e
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Don't know if Rashford is injured or what?
      are you happy with KDB? I'd like hazard instead of him tbh.
      Those city points get spread which is an issue for me

    2. AndyCook
        5 years, 4 months ago

        De Bruyne, Laporte, Torreira out for Hazard, Camarasa and the best defender you can afford

        1. AndyCook
            5 years, 4 months ago

            Alexander Arnold I think you could get just

        2. AndyCook
            5 years, 4 months ago

            I would play Rondon over Laporte

        3. disarrays11
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 4 months ago

          Hi lads,

          Already activated my wildcard since I was coping with some injuries and team had become unbalanced.

          This is it so far:

          Fabianski (Button)
          Doherty - Digne - TAA (Jonny & Wan-Bisakka)
          Richarlison - Pogba - Felipe Anderson - Hazard - Salah
          Jimenez - Kane (Kamara)

          One thing I'm still doubting: Felipe Anderson & Kamara -> Arnautovic & Camarasa???
          Any feedback is welcome (also about the team in general).

          Thanks and a happy new year to all!

          1. Eat my goal!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 4 months ago

            stick with what you have

            my WC team is the same only I have Robbo Auba + Quaner instead of Jonny, Kane + Kamara

            I can afford Kamara but after the recent pen fiasco I doubt he'll play and i'd rather have the cash ITB for future moves

            1. AndyCook
                5 years, 4 months ago

                I think he will play still based on Ranieri’s comments as it’s ‘best for the team’

              • disarrays11
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 4 months ago

                Thanks for the reply!

                I know, what a turd move with the penalty. But I think he'll be punished for a few weeks and then get back in the team. Where as quaner has been non-existent this season. Still have 0.4m itb too.

                1. Eat my goal!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  sounds good, i've only .1 ITB so just gives me a tiny bit of wiggle room

          2. Weilong7
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 4 months ago

            Rich or Anderson out for pogba?

            1. BIG TONES
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Richarlison out of those two but you're likely to be burned imo.

              1. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 4 months ago

                this

              2. Weilong7
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 4 months ago

                Then again pogba is red hot form... too late for the bandwagon?

                1. Brosstan
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  Pogba will rise to 9.0 or so by the end of the season. Still ahead of the curve if you get him now

            2. RamaJama
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Rich

          3. Boxwoods
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 4 months ago

            Which duo to hold long term:

            A. Kane + Pogba
            B. Auba + Sane

            1. disarrays11
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              A all day for me. Both sure starters and a lot more consistent imo

            2. BIG TONES
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              A, easy.

            3. yakirh
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              A

            4. RamaJama
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Auba and Pogba

              1. Boxwoods
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 4 months ago

                Appreciate all the feedback! A bit surprised at the unanimous love for Pogba. Feel he has been a very streaky player fantasy-wise in years past and could fall substantially off current blistering form. Kane meanwhile has not looked at all the same player as in season's past. But I can't shake the feeling that Kane could turn things around soon and start hauling.

                1. Brosstan
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  Hes never really been allowed to attack like he is now. This is Juve level Pogba except more technically developed and more mature.

                  1. Boxwoods
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    5 years, 4 months ago

                    He certainly is attacking like the proverbial mo-fo at present. So who do you fancy of Kane vs. Auba?

          4. Caleb's Kitties
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 4 months ago

            Richarlison or martial is better option?

            1. Top Lad Dakes.
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Rich imo

            2. disarrays11
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Richarlison imo, sure starter and plays in attack. Martial will be victim of rotation I think: Lukaku and Sanchez (nearly) back, lingard and rashford in great form..

            3. Boxwoods
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Currently own both, but Rich has been a season keeper for me, and will be looking to upgrade Martial in new year. For me, Rich is the better long term option.

            4. Brosstan
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Martial is a better pick if - and thats the only caveat - if hes first choice for OGS. For me he should be comfortably ahead of Lingard in the pecking order, but he is likely to start 1 out of 4 games or so on the bench. He has almost 8 ppg from games where he has started this season, and that has mostly been in a more negative side under Mourinho.

          5. TherryOnWii
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 4 months ago

            Hi guys,
            Rashford to Arnautovic for free. Yay or nay?
            Already have Pogba.

            1. disarrays11
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Yay since he won't be risked against Newcastle a

          6. OPTA FPL
            • 12 Years
            5 years, 4 months ago

            Digne or TAA? Have Robbo

            1. El_Crudgo
              • 5 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Got to think that Trent will outscore Digne between now and the end of the season. I already have double Liverpool D otherwise I'd probably have him

            2. BIG TONES
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Liverpool double up will be gold. Whether you go for it now or after the City game is up to you.

            3. RamaJama
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Digne: transfer in now, good fixture

              TAA: no point getting him before city

            4. Boxwoods
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Brought Trent in for Laporte and benching this week. Concur with other assessments that 'Pool double def will be cash money.

          7. Top Lad Dakes.
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 4 months ago

            Folks with both Kane and Auba, but looking to drop one for Salah:

            How are you going about it? Which one are you planning to drop, why and when? Who else is making way?

            Also, if you plan on continuing without Salah, what’s your reasoning?

            1. InSaneMan-e
              • 10 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              I got salah in yesterday as I would be outpriced. I've kept Kane.
              Why don't you wait and see what happens. A Kane haul and auba blank (though unlikely) and I'd drop auba. Lacazette has had a rest and surely auba is due a rest

              1. Top Lad Dakes.
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 4 months ago

                This is my thinking too. Although, Auba did get an early sub vs Pool so should be in line to start vs Fulham

                1. InSaneMan-e
                  • 10 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  Indeed. Arsenal fixtures are mixed, and I just wonder if auba got all those points due to arsenals previous amazing fixtures (with unbeaten run).

            2. disarrays11
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              I've had Salah and Kane the while season, haven't missed Auba. He seems tempting but too inconsistent for me. Saw against Liverpool that be can't pull a team like both Salah and Kane can. But his first fixture is against Fulham so have considered him as well..

              1. AndyCook
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  I don’t think Kane can either but he’s better at it than Aubameyang

                • Top Lad Dakes.
                  • 7 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  Yeah I’m not doin anything this week

              2. BIG TONES
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 4 months ago

                Same boat as you pal. Currently on Auba & Son > Salah & Arnie, but will obviously take in tomorrow's results before making a final decision.

                Kane fixtures great and he's due one of his hattys soon, more rest between games will be good for him.

                Auba could be burn us, but Salah will outscore him imo, especially as I will cap him most weeks, and Arsenal seem to be going off the boil a bit. He often gets subbed at 70 mins also.

                Dropping Salah for Kane has cost be a fair bit of rank and nearly my ML lead so am going to eat humble pie and get him back in.

                Hope this helps!

                1. Top Lad Dakes.
                  • 7 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  Cheers man, very helpful yeah. Was leaning towards Kane out as it’s the easier move as I only have to drop Snoddy as well and get a fodder forward in, but not sure about Auba. Will at least see what happens this weekend.

                  And same, kinda wish I’d never dropped salah for Kane weeks back!

                  1. BIG TONES
                    • 9 Years
                    5 years, 4 months ago

                    Not an easy decision yeah! Just hold Kane imo, will sting to miss Salah hauls and then Kane's also!

                    Good luck

              3. EL_FENOMENO
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 4 months ago

                The same as me, wanna keep both to be fair, but too afraid of Mo. Was contemplating of just getting Mane, but he's far off, for 4 mil less though i think he can match his value. That leaves me with Haz, Kane and Auba for captaincy picks.

            3. El_Crudgo
              • 5 Years
              5 years, 4 months ago

              Would love some assistance here guys. Have gone right off the boil recently. Any immediate fixes you can see?

              Allison, Foster
              Digne, Robbo, Holebas, Doherty, Wan B
              Salah, Sane, Anderson, Richarlison, Fraser
              Wilson, Kane, Success

              O.4itb 1ft
              Closest ML rival has Hazard

              Thanks!

              1. InSaneMan-e
                • 10 Years
                5 years, 4 months ago

                Sane to pog would have been the obvious transfer.
                Pog has upped price but that's the only change I can see without hits

                1. InSaneMan-e
                  • 10 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  I just want to add that Pog may rise again

                  1. El_Crudgo
                    • 5 Years
                    5 years, 4 months ago

                    Yeah keeping an eye on that. I like his higher ownership too. Lower risk. Thanks!

              2. Top Lad Dakes.
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 4 months ago

                Defence looks fine but would drop Foster to a 4.5 - no point going premium for alisson if you aren’t gonna play him sometimes, and if you always play him no point having Foster just now

                Midfield, I’d drop Fraser to a sub5, try to upgrade sane to Haz or Anderson to Pogba.

                1. El_Crudgo
                  • 5 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  Hadn't considered downgrading Fraser but I'll see what I can do with that. Nice one.

              3. AndyCook
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  You need to address how your money is spent as it’s too evenly spread which means loads on the bench. Fraser or Success needs to go. Foster to Button

                  1. AndyCook
                      5 years, 4 months ago

                      Camarasa or Kamara in

                  2. Hotdogs for Tea
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 4 months ago

                    I think you have a bit too much on your bench

                    Its looks like a decent 442 or 352 but that means benching Fraser or a decent defender ?

                    Down grade Holebas or Fraser, allocate or bank the cash, and set a formation accordingly

                • fedolefan
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  So is DCL likely to play?

                  1. OPTA FPL
                    • 12 Years
                    5 years, 4 months ago

                    why?

                • Tempestic
                  • 5 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  0.1ITB 1FT
                  Lloris
                  Alonso Digne Shaw
                  Hazard(c) Sane Son Pogba Rich
                  Kane Jimenez
                  Steele - Bennet Ings Balbuena

                  Save? Plan to get Salah in next week with a bit of surgery.

                • The Colonel
                  • 10 Years
                  5 years, 4 months ago

                  Keep Sane for another week or out to Pogba?

                  1. Pinturicchio10
                      5 years, 4 months ago

                      I would keep

                    • IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
                      • 6 Years
                      5 years, 4 months ago

                      keep as he will play unless future plans are scuppered as there will be a price swing bw both

                    • AndyCook
                        5 years, 4 months ago

                        Out his fixture is dross

                    • aborg
                      • 6 Years
                      5 years, 4 months ago

                      Is it a good idea to transfer out Salah for Hazard just for this GW and then bring Salah back in the week after? I would only lose 0.1m on Salah.

                      1. Pinturicchio10
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Nah

                          1. aborg
                            • 6 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Don’t you think Hazard has a much better fixture than Salah this GW?

                            1. Eat my goal!
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 5 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              city haven't been tight in some time - Liverpool could easily get a couple - not worth the ft's

                        • InSaneMan-e
                          • 10 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Hmmm
                          If there's no other transfers this could prove a bit of genius.

                          1. aborg
                            • 6 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            That’s what I was thinking 😉 Maybe I will bring in TAA together with Salah the GW after for a -4 but thinking about it

                            1. InSaneMan-e
                              • 10 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              My answer would be go for the 1 week swap if you're going to captain haz

                        • AndyCook
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Not worth burning the transfers you must have something worth doing

                        • Eat my goal!
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 5 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Is robbo worth the extra cash over VVD and even Lovren?

                          Will Lovren lose his place?

                          have the extra cash means I can could have Kane over Auba

                          martial over rich if so inclined

                          1. Amey
                            • 5 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Taa is best value defender IMO. So you should consider him too.

                            1. Eat my goal!
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 5 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              got him already - this is for the double up

                          2. BIG TONES
                            • 9 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Robbo is worth it for the attacking potential and baps. Lovren nailed until Gomez/Matip return

                          3. Weasel Boy
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 11 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Lovren nailed until end of January i think

                        • Scholsey
                          • 12 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Laporte to Luiz before I wildcard both out in GW22?

                        • Plymouth
                          • 11 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Fabianski
                          Löwe, Doherty, Luiz, Kolasinac
                          Hazard(C), Sterling, Pogba, Anderson
                          Kane, Deeney

                          Bench: Robbo, Camarasa, Success, 1 FT and 1,5ITB

                          GTG?

                        • Niho992
                          • 5 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          I really dont know should i keep my transfer or replace Ederson.

                        • Don Kloppeone
                          • 6 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Does anyone remember from previous seasons if there were quite so many people dropping their WCs within the first GW of the 2nd half of the season?!

                          Can’t believe how many are using it so early. Was there nothing a hit or two couldn’t have fixed??

                          1. InSaneMan-e
                            • 10 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            I'm a firm believer in using them for the dgw. I've also had people in my mini leagues use bench boost and free hits which I think is mad so early

                            1. Don Kloppeone
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              Yep last season it catapulted me up the rankings when I had my strategy around the DGWs and BGWs and had my WC, BB and FH to use. Essential

                          2. Klip Klopp
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            yeah i've taken a -4 2 weeks in a row and might do next week, just so i can save the wc!

                            1. Don Kloppeone
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              Yep I took a hit last week and a -4 this week also but def not touching those chips!

                          3. XabiAlonso
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Ye lots usually do, then they tend to get passed by with good strategy and use of chips later on

                            1. Don Kloppeone
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              That’s when I made my big comeback last season! Without the chips I’d have been doomed

                          4. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
                            • 6 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            this cant understand playing wc this early.Would be a huge headache to plan for the dgws at the end of the season and if the planning is not proper could lose a lot of points.I would never take that risk myself ever

                            1. Don Kloppeone
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              Exactly. That period is make or break and having your chips makes it so much easier

                          5. Eat my goal!
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 5 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            personally for the DGW I generally prepare weeks in advance but the players that are performing are those you have in your team anyhow

                            I use bench boost in the DGW

                            I use FH in the CL clash week

                            I'd rather not take the hits when I've already suffered in the rankings

                          6. Dannyb
                            • 7 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Seems nuts to me as well tbh.

                          7. Amey
                            • 5 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            I think it's because of pogba,Salah,hazard,digne form compared to sane,sterling, richa,alonso.
                            It could leave them unhappy during dgw extravaganza though.

                          8. Wrench
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Some just can't resist the temptation.

                          9. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
                            • 6 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            I personally hate the W/C and want to get it out of the way ASAP as I enjoy ticking along without it and taking hits to target fixtures and injuries etc.

                            I think they should ban it.

                          10. Old Man
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 12 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            I'm all for it - let them use their WCs now - it's a great idea. 😀

                            1. Don Kloppeone
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              Lol this

                        • Klip Klopp
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          After 4 weeks of red arrows and tons of hits... Am I GTG this week?

                          Fabianski
                          Doherty / Digne / Alonso
                          Martial / Richarlson / Hazard / Son / Pogba
                          Jiminez / Auba (c)

                          Bench: Hamer, Rashford, Robertson, Bennet

                          1. InSaneMan-e
                            • 10 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Yep
                            Ots Salah that has harmed you (and me)
                            But hopefully you can make up some of it with that team this week.

                            1. Klip Klopp
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 8 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              No Salah has really hurt me. Whats your plan to get him in? I was thinking about this...

                              Alonso + Son + Rashford (have Martial and Pogba) —> Lovren + Salah + Kamara

                              1. InSaneMan-e
                                • 10 Years
                                5 years, 4 months ago

                                I got him in yesterday as I'd have been priced out otherwise.
                                I actually took a -8 (which is the 1st I've done this season)
                                Did Robb, Camarasa kun (put him for 1 week when I used WC)-->TAA Salah cheap forward.

                                In your case Son is the obvious one who will go. Could downgrade Robbo to TAA (had value on robbo but TAA should be nailed for a while).
                                Could also downgrade Alonso (havnt seen him in attacking positions as much recently)

                                1. InSaneMan-e
                                  • 10 Years
                                  5 years, 4 months ago

                                  I.e. your moves are sound tbh

                        • Gudjohnsen
                          • 7 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Play one:

                          A. Lovren
                          B. Wan Bissaka
                          C. Chilwell

                          1. Klip Klopp
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            c

                        • Ian Davis
                          • 14 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          First in bench order if Rashford doesn’t play?

                          A) AWB
                          B) Kiko
                          C) Billing
                          D) Billing > 4.8mid

                        • Tsparkes10
                          • 5 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Kane, Anderson, Pererya > , Salah, Calvert Lewin/Solanke, Pogba is tempting for -4 next week?

                          1. Klip Klopp
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            hmm not sure the second lot score much more than the first

                          2. InSaneMan-e
                            • 10 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Pog will have spurs next gw so I'm not sure the 2nd lot outscored the 1st lot. But going ahead salah is a must

                          3. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
                            • 6 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            not tempting for me

                          4. Amey
                            • 5 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Yes.
                            It'll also reduce your benching headache too.

                        • MysticMac17
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 6 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          RMWCT please. I've gone cheap at the back but don't think its crazy unbalanced. Thoughts on the team please?

                          Guaita
                          Jonny TAA Digne
                          Salah Hazard Pogba Richarlison
                          Auba Kane Jimenez

                          Subs: Button, AWB, Gibbs-White, Bednarek

                          1. Klip Klopp
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            bench is awful

                          2. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
                            • 6 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            really like the team and cheap back 5.Loively team .My only concern is gk longterm as u may need to use a transfer on that in the future other than that excellent

                            1. MysticMac17
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              Thanks yeah, it could be a transfer down the line yeah. Guaita started yesterday with Hennessey on the bench so he appears to be number 1 for now. If hes dropped, at least I have Button the bench who is starting until Ryan is back. I just couldn't turn down the chance of getting a 4.2 starting GK

                          3. InSaneMan-e
                            • 10 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Bench is poor but it's got to be the best front 7 I've seen

                            1. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              not sure its that poor tbh.2 nailed defenders and a oop mid but rotation risk

                            2. MysticMac17
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              Im gonna be downgrading Auba after the West Ham game to a striker 6 mill or less and upgrading Gibbs-White to Mane so its really only for two gameweeks that the bench is like this.

                          4. E25
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Wait you're using your second WC now?

                            1. MysticMac17
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              Yeah I know LOL. Some very weak knees, like a 90 year old man

                              1. E25
                                • 8 Years
                                5 years, 4 months ago

                                Does your team really need it? Will def hurt you later in season around the DGWs :/

                        • ChickenTikkaMoSalah
                          • 8 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Auba or Haz for captain, and why?

                          1. InSaneMan-e
                            • 10 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Auba for me. Own haz as well.
                            Fulham have a bad defense. And I have this doubt about Morat a playing

                          2. E25
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Auba I think. I was at the cottage on Saturday, Fulham suck.

                        • TherryOnWii
                          • 8 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Who to pick?
                          A. Richarlison
                          B. Siggy

                          1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            A if you have to

                          2. E25
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            A

                        • How I met your Mata
                          • 8 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Rashford unlikely to play this gw??

                        • Charlie55
                          • 6 Years
                          5 years, 4 months ago

                          Who to bench out of:

                          Sterling Richarlison Anderson Pogba Hazard
                          Kane Wilson Jiminez

                          Thanks

                          1. Ratatouille
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            All out Attack 🙂

                          2. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
                            • 6 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            sterling tbh loll

                          3. E25
                            • 8 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            I had this type of dilemma before I wildcarded last week. You really should look to downgrade one of these ASAP.
                            Given how bad Sterling always seems to be against Liverpool my gut says him. Can see him starting on the bench.

                          4. Jambot
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 13 Years
                            5 years, 4 months ago

                            Rotation will Probably make the decision for you in the end. I think I’d bench Jiminez

                            1. Charlie55
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 4 months ago

                              Thanks guys, much appreciated.