Learning from ‘The Great and The Good’ FPL managers – Gameweek 8

Fantasy Football Scout community writer Greyhead continues with his series of articles analysing the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) transfers and strategies of some noted Fantasy managers, from serial top 10k finishers to well-known faces.

The Great and The Good this year are the Scouts Joe LepperNeale RiggGeoff Dance and Tom Freeman, FPL Wire’s Zophar, from the Hall of Fame Fabio BorgesFPLMatthewYavuz Kabuk and Tom Stephenson, Blackbox’s Az and Mark Sutherns, FPL “celebrities” LTFPL AndyMagnus Carlsen and FPL General plus last year’s mini-league winner Les Caldwell.

“No clue, of what’s happening to you. And before this night is through. Ooh baby the rhythm is gonna get’cha”

Wildcard rhythm spread uncontrollably through The Great and The Good as not one, not two, but five of them threw in their chip.

In other signs of international break madness, some started tracking Raphinha‘s (£6.6m) flight path as he returned to the UK, there was more COVID chaos and Timo Werner (£8.6m) was being considered an option for those with short memories.

Things didn’t get any better with the squad announcements as the ‘Great Benching of 2021’ saw Diogo Jota (£7.5m), Jack Grealish (£7.9m), Ruben Dias (£6.2m), Raul Jimenez (£7.6m), Adam Armstrong (£6.0m), Reece James (£5.5m) and even Brandon Williams (£4.0) getting nothing but splinters in their posteriors.


‘Jammy’ Joe was top this week with a slightly fortunate or well-planned, depending on your perspective, 71 points, where 13 of those came from his substitutes.

Conor Coady (£4.5m) and Tino Livramento’s (£4.3m) contribution meant he had a full house of defensive returns and a green arrow of 225,000 places.

LTFPL Andy continues to lead the way, opening a 17-point gap but it’s incredibly close with only 20 points separating Tom Stephenson in second and Joe in 13th.

Unfortunately, I gave the commentators curse to Az on Twitter this week as he looked on track to finally overtake Mark, after over a season of trying, with only a narrow gap and two Arsenal players in hand. But sadly it was not to be.


Plenty of Wildcard activity with now only two managers left standing holding the most powerful chip in the game, Matthew Jones and Mark Sutherns.

So, how did the famous five, who spent their international break drafting and redrafting, end up when it came to their final squads?


If Neal Maupay (£6.6m) is the answer, then what the hell was the question? Despite last season’s difficult experience with the Brighton striker, Az went back there again. He should really learn from his mistakes, maybe do an awarding podcast on his retrospective Blackbox? Nah, it will never catch on.

One error he did correct was Nelson Semedo (£4.9m), as he was ejected along with ten others to make it a significant overhaul.

Overall, it looks a good squad with depth, and he may need it with rotation risks Phil Foden (£8.0m), Reece James and Joao Cancelo (£6.3m) meaning he may call to the pine a few times over the coming weeks.

The full moves are below:-

IN – Ramsdale, Cancelo, James, Duffy, Alexander-Arnold, Mbeumo, Smith-Rowe, Foden, Raphinha, Lukaku, Maupay

OUT – Sanchez, Azpilicueta, Veltman, Coufal, Semedo, Greenwood, Benrahma, Sarr, Gilmour, Ronaldo, Toney

Fabio Borges

The headline from the Portuguese master is the distinct lack of any Chelsea defenders with Romelu Lukaku (£11.7m) the only Blue to make his 15. That alone makes this writer worry at the what the man with the algorithm has spotted about their defence.

A triple up on Brentford catches the eye and he has also doubled down on both Arsenal and City, edging his gamble by holding 1.7 million in the bank should he need to correct course.

The full moves are below:-

IN – Raya, Cancelo, Dias, White, Livramento, Alexander-Arnold, Saka, Mbeumo, Brownhill, Lukaku

OUT – Sanchez, Shaw, Dunk, Rudiger, Ayling, Omobamidele, Son, Benrahma, Bissouma, Ronaldo

FPL General

Interesting here to see the Chelsea players that the General has plumped for, with Mason Mount (£7.4m) preferred to a defender despite his spotty returns this season.

Ben Chilwell‘s (£5.7m) inclusion could yet be a masterstroke if this weekend’s contribution is anything to go by, he is the only one of The Great and The Good to have him in his squad.

The full moves are below:-

IN – Ramsdale, Foster, Alexander-Arnold, Dias, Cancelo, Chilwell, Livramento, Mount, Mbeumo, Raphinha, Toney, Lukaku

OUT – Sanchez, Gunn, Rudiger, Veltman, Ayling, Shaw, Tsimikas, Sarr, Benrahma, Greenwood, Ronaldo, Saint-Maximin

Tom Stephenson

‘Template’ Tom has set the new Wildcard template with a strong selection, although he himself described it as “punty”.

This possibly refers to the rotation threats of James, Cancelo and Foden but it was Ruben Dias (£6.2m) and Adam Armstrong (£6.0m) he should have been more worried about.

Interestingly, he has £0.5m in the bank and I suspect he will use this on Ivan Toney (£6.4m) to backtrack on his Southampton striker.

The full ins and out are below:-

IN – Ramsdale, Foster, Dias, Duffy, James, Cancelo, Foden, Mbeumo, Brownhill, Lukaku, Armstrong

OUT – Sanchez, Steele, Rudiger, Shaw, Semedo, White, Sarr, Benrahma, Greenwood, Ronaldo, Scarlett


Zophar must be taking notes from Tom or vice versa as his team is virtually identical, with only the choice of Livramento making him stand apart from the Hall of Famer.

Perhaps the one surprise is that he has only doubled up on his beloved Chelsea, preferring the Man City twin defence.

IN – Ramsdale, Foster, James, Dias, Cancelo, Livramento, Brownhill, Foden, Mbeumo, Armstrong, Lukaku

OUT – Sanchez, Steele, Rudiger, White, Shaw, Semedo, Sarr, Greenwood, Benrahma, Ronaldo, Obafemi


This is a summary of the transfers for this week :

Az – Wildcard

LTFPL Andy – Alexander-Arnold (Rudiger)

Fabio Borges – Wildcard

Joe Lepper – None

Geoff Dance – Cancelo (Williams)

FPL General – Wildcard

Les Caldwell – Son, Cancelo (Jota, Alexander-Arnold)

Magnus Carlsen – James (Shaw)

Mark Sutherns – Cancelo (Shaw)

FPL Matthew – Foden, Cancelo (Jota, Rudiger)

Neale Rigg – Dias (Shaw)

Tom Freeman – Foden (Son)

Tom Stephenson – Wildcard

Yavuz Kabuk – None

Zophar – Wildcard

Limited transfers outside of the Wildcarders but Les Caldwell must have insider knowledge as his hit to bring in Son Heung-min (£10.1m) paid off when, despite the Covid scare, he returned yet again, making a mockery of his 14.5% ownership.

FPL Matthew took a now-characteristic hit this Gameweek, he has now taken -12 for the season which goes against a previous conservative style and puts him ahead of some of the more maverick managers in this made-up mini league.

Probably the transfer that wasn’t should also be highlighted, as Joe’s decision to keep Mason Greenwood (£7.6m) paid off with a goal. With Jadon Sancho (£9.0m) still not justifying his price tag, his place looks slightly more secure.


The template for The Great and The Good is as follows with number in brackets showing how many teams in which they appear:-

Foster (10), Ramsdale (6)

Cancelo (13), Livramento (12), Alexander-Arnold (11), Rudiger (6), Dias (5)

Salah (15), Raphinha (14), Mbeumo (8), Brownhill (6), Foden (5)

Antonio (15), Lukaku (13), Ronaldo/Armstrong (4)

An explosion in the template with changes galore, the goalkeeper pairing moving from Robert Sanchez (£4.6m) and Jason Steele (£4.0m) to Aaron Ramsdale (£4.6m) and Ben Foster (£4.0m) just the start of several shifts.

Dias and Armstrong join but the previous good value of Luke Shaw (£5.4m) no longer seems to be true and in midfield we see the arrival of woodwork loving Bryan Mbeumo (£5.5m), as well as Foden and Josh Brownhill (£4.4m).


“Time. Space. Reality. It’s more than a linear path. It’s a prism of endless possibility…follow me and dare to face the unknown. And ponder the question what if….?”

That rather marvellous quote is neat a segue into the bi-annual look back at what might have been for The Great and The Good.

We do this by using the terrifying What if machine to assess what score they would have achieved if they had not made a transfer or captain change throughout the season.

You can see the full table below, but I warn you the results are quite alarming as they show the minimum impact the constant tinkering has had so far, LTFPL Andy leads the way with a 42-point gain from meddling but he and Les Caldwell are the exception rather than the rule.

If you cast your eye towards the bottom of the table, you will see some have even damaged their score because of their transfers and captain choices. Use the link above, if you dare, to see how you would get on.


After a week where the bench strength of our squads was tested, I suspect this coming week will drift into the debate of form vs fixtures, with question marks over Lukaku leading many of us to consider the in-form Mohamed Salah (£12.8m) as our captain this weekend.

The other question is whether we continue to ignore the likes of Jamie Vardy (£10.6m) and Son despite the consistency of returns and is the “threemium” option really dead?

Lots to consider but if the ‘What If Machine’ teaches us anything, maybe overthinking is not the answer and maybe it’s as simple as just leaving it well alone.

Anyway, that’s all from me for now and remember don’t have nightmares.

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481 Comments Post a Comment
  1. el polako
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 9 days ago

    Salah is on fire, United just got spanked by Leicester.
    Lukaku isn't really firing, even if consider he was bit unlucky plus his manger is talking openly about fatigue.

    Maybe the choice this week is really simple and we are overcomplicating it with our earlier plans towards Lukaku.

    1. TheBiffas
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 9 days ago

      Salah all day long for me

    2. drughi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago

      I dont think its much in it but liverpool put alot of effort in yesterday so dont expect them to spank united. Close win I feel. Chelsea should be able to put 3-4 goals behind norwich

    3. HMC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago

      its not just lukaku but more chelsea attack that's not firing
      see how tomorrow pans out for Chelsea vs Malmo

    4. Calculated Risks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago

      I agree...had always planned to get Lukaku in this week to captain as he dovetails nicely with Salah for a few weeks. The sexy appeal of NOR swung it but even they've kept 2 clean sheets and can see a 2 for Lukaku (if he even plays due to his fatigue).
      Am I really going to get in Lukaku who by not owning has boosted my rank exponentially?
      Easy to just captain Salah, who for me is far more likely to outscore Lukaku than the other way around. Can also see a scenario where they both score 2 and then all the debate is for nothing!!

  2. drughi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 months, 9 days ago

    Would you start foster (eve) over sanchez(MCI) this week ?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago

      Sanchez still

      1. drughi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 months, 9 days ago

        intresting, everton without doucoure, DCL and richarlison

        1. drughi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 months, 9 days ago

          plus ranieri have one more week to set his team up and work on the basics

          1. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 months, 9 days ago

            Think they both probably concede but I don’t see a 0-0 between City and Brighton being beyond the realm of possibility. Watford look shot at the back.

        2. Ze_Austin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 9 days ago

          Gray is enough to turn 'em inside out

    2. Holmes
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago


    3. JBG
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago

      Start Foster.

      1. JBG
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 9 days ago

        Sanchez doesn't do save points even when he doesn't keep clean sheets.

  3. Steevo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 months, 9 days ago

    A) Ronaldo -> Vardy (FT)
    B) Ronaldo -> Kane (FT)
    C) Ronaldo, Semedo -> Vardy, Chilwell (-4)
    D) Sarr -> Mbeumo (FT)
    E) Sarr, Semedo -> Mbeumo, James (-4)
    F) Ronaldo, Scarlett -> Vardy, Toney (-4)

    C probably makes sense.

  4. Wild Card this!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 months, 9 days ago

    New Post

    1. Ze_Austin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago

      Mbeumo will find it

  5. jb1985
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 9 days ago

    Is anyone else hoping Chilwell starts tonight so more of a chance that Alonso starts at the weekend? I think I will hold Alonso even if he does play some minutes tonight for weekend then move on.

    1. el polako
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago

      Gotta keep for this one.

  6. Seekers of Glory
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 9 days ago

    Do you guys think Jota to Raphinha is worth a -4?
    As Jota didnt start in UCL I am unsure whether he will start at mun

  7. rnrd
    • 7 Years
    3 months, 9 days ago

    I am having a tough time to pick my 3rd FW spot on WC along with Antonio and Lukaku (budget between 6 and 8)

    Option A- Jimenez. On pens, nailed for 90 minutes but still playing with his injury in the back of his head (bad pun..) Wolves have very average attacking threat
    Option B- Ings. On pens (if el ghazi is not on the pitch). Watkins / Buendia seems to be starting to click recently so this could benefit Ings. Also Cash and Targett offensive support is a game changer compared to last year. So an interesting prospect.
    Option C- Ihenacho. Quite an intruiging one. Don'thave the pens, not nailed but have a real ceiling Leicester play much better with him in the side.
    Option D- Odsonne Edouard. Quite a differential. Cry post some good attacking numbers and have a great calendar ahead (bar mci)

    Who would you go with?

    1. CRO KLOPP
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago


    2. The 12th Man
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago


  8. v3n0m
      3 months, 9 days ago

      Saka to:
      1) Raph
      2) Mbeumo

    • The 12th Man
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 9 days ago

      I have 2 FTs and a couple of ways to go with them.

      Team as it stands.
      Lukaku, Ronaldo

      Gunn, Livramento,Dennis,Gilmour 2 FTs 0.2m itb

      A) Ronaldo,Dennis >> Vardy,Toney (bench White)
      B) Gilmour,Ronaldo >> Son,Toney (bench White)
      C) Gray,Ronaldo >> KDB,Toney
      Favouring A or B. So essentially it’s Vardy v Son.

    • Mozumbus
        3 months, 9 days ago

        Who will score more in GW9:
        A. Son
        B. Bruno

      • Oreoluwa
          3 months, 9 days ago

          I like the mbeuno pick, Salah is just out of this world right now. Viable captain against man UTD but I'm playing it safe with lukaku who has the fixtures against Norwich. Just look at Harry Kane, tagged as out of form but a goal and an assist and he's back on the FPL radar. This fixture is perfect for lukaku