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Dugout Discussion August 15

Liverpool v Palace team news: Darwin starts, £4.0m Phillips in defence

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Gameweek 2 of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) concludes with Liverpool v Crystal Palace, which gets underway at 20:00 BST this evening.

Darwin Nunez gets his first competitive start in a Liverpool shirt, replacing Roberto Firmino and joining Mohamed Salah and Luis Diaz in the three-man Reds attack.

Darwin was the third most-bought forward of Gameweek 2 following his nine-point return against Fulham on the opening weekend, with just over 350,000 managers hopping on board the Uruguayan.

Jurgen Klopp has made four changes to the side that drew at Craven Cottage, with budget defender Nathaniel Phillips, James Milner and Harvey Elliott also in for Joel Matip, Jordan Henderson and Thiago Alcantara.

Three of the players to drop out are injured, with Firmino absent as a precaution, Matip out with a muscle issue and Thiago sidelined for the foreseeable future because of a hamstring problem.

Phillips gets the nod over Joe Gomez, who is on only the bench despite the centre-half shortage.

Patrick Vieira has made just one change but it could be a significant one regarding starting formation, with defender Joel Ward coming in for benched striker Odsonne Edouard.

Michael Olise is fit enough to be a substitute after a long spell on the sidelines.

GAMEWEEK 2 LINE-UPS

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Phillips, van Dijk, Robertson, Elliott, Fabinho, Milner, Salah, Darwin Diaz

Subs: Adrian, Gomez, Keita, Henderson, Tsimikas, Clark, Carvalho, Bajcetic, Van den Berg.

Crystal Palace XI: Guaita, Clyne, Guéhi, Andersen, Ward, Mitchell, Doucouré, Schlupp, Ayew, Zaha, Eze

Subs: Edouard, Milivojevic, Mateta, Hughes, Johnstone, Ebiowei, Plange, Olise, Richards.

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  1. el polako
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Darwin owners up for a prize tonight.

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    1. gart888
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Especially with the double Liverpool FB play looking a bit dodgy.

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      1. Cheeky Onion
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        How so?

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        1. gart888
          • 9 Years
          1 year, 8 months ago

          Nat starting at CB.

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          1. Utopsis
            • 4 Years
            1 year, 8 months ago

            What does Gomez have to do to get a look in?

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            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              1 year, 8 months ago

              I read he picked up an injury, even though he's on the bench.

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              1. Utopsis
                • 4 Years
                1 year, 8 months ago

                Ah fair enough

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  2. Bishopool
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Liverpool - Palace
    3-0

    assists: Salah, Elliot, Milner
    goals: TAAx2, Keita

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    1. gart888
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Subscribe

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    2. Urban Cowboy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      I very much wish to live in this timeline

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    3. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Robbo miss-spelled

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  3. RogDog_jimmy
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Olise back n the bench for Palace i like.

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  4. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 13 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Darwin scores tonight and myself and others may have to wildcard

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    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Depends what Robertson does to be honest. A structure with Nunez Jesus and haaland definitely lacks balance in midfield.

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      1. banskt
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        Possible with a midfield of Salah, Martinelli, JWP.

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    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Why? MUN next, tough game 😛

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    3. Clintymints
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Gona be carnage if he hauls

      I've the popcorn ready

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  5. Free Hat
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Not a mention of Konate, was he injured as well?

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    1. R.C
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Yes

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      1. Free Hat
        • 5 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        Thanks

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        1. Skonto Rigga
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 6 Years
          1 year, 8 months ago

          Aye was ruled out before the start of the season for "a while".

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          1. Free Hat
            • 5 Years
            1 year, 8 months ago

            Must have missed that!

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  6. EL tridente
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Ward, Iversen
    TAA, James, Walker, White, Neco
    Salah, Martinelli, Bailey, Neto, Andreas
    Kane, Haaland, Jesus

    2 transfers in the bank. Best transfers? Could Iversen and White to Sanchez and Patterson work?

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    1. gart888
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Kane and Iversen to Darwin and Sanchez? Then sit on the rest of the funds to make another upgrade next week.

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  7. Royal5
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Klopp given up the league already it seems

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      He is no match for Pep when it comes to the 38 game slog.

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    2. gart888
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Well City are looking like they're going to get 114 points, so fair play.

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    3. Marvin Moon
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      What, on God's green earth, are you basing this nonsense on?

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    4. F4L
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      can't help injuries

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      1. Royal5
        • 12 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        Fair enough. That lineup looks mid table.

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        1. gart888
          • 9 Years
          1 year, 8 months ago

          Not many mid table teams have world class Keepers, CBs, FBs, DMFs, Wingers, and 9s though.

          3 of the Liverpool starters look mid table, the rest look top tier.

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        2. Swahealy
          • 2 Years
          1 year, 8 months ago

          Lol spot the disgruntled man u fan

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  8. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    How nailed is Nathan Paterson? Cheers

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    1. markmcr
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Cant see him dropping out for the time being

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    2. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Nailed enough I think however i’m not sure you want any Everton in your team. Even at their best defensively I still see them losing 1-0 and I don’t see them scoring many goals at all so no attacking returns for Patterson either.

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    3. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Cheers

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    4. Swahealy
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Not as nailed as Neco and plays for Everton, can't mind the last time they had a clean sheet

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    5. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      If your plan is to go with 2 of 4.0 is ok but if not I would take Neco.

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  9. Randaxus
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    I know Man United can't do it, but the most practical thing to do would be to sell all starting 11 players and buy a completely new 11, that would have the better better than the relegation form that they have now.

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    1. Randaxus
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      To be better*

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    2. el polako
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      They just need to follow Arsenal's example, get rid of all big names and start again with kiddos giving Manager time.

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      1. Randaxus
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        They really need to axe these players, Ronaldo is the only one that can leave with dignity.

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      2. Randaxus
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        You have to give credit to Arteta, when he first went to Arsenal they were really bad.

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    3. Tomerick
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      If they ran a reality show wit Manchester locals, eventually whittling it down to a new squad, I bet they’d beat this current team.

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    4. Swahealy
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Just drop or even dropkick Maguire, cancel his contract and they'll instantly be better. I know there are a lot of problems but he's the biggest.

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  10. Mad Mick
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    QQ - was playing around with transfers last night taking out Rashford for KDH.

    Not the worst thing in the world, but I’m a bit surprised that I’ve gone to check it out this evening and the transfer has gone through… but I didn’t confirm the transfer unless I’ve done it in some sort of semi-sleep state!

    Has some sort of auto transfer thing come into effect on FPL if you leave the browser window open, or did I just drink too much wine?

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    1. Urban Cowboy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      The game didn't want to take the risk of you getting stuck with United players.

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      1. Mad Mick
        • 14 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        That would have been good of them!

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    2. popey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      decent upgrade tbf

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  11. F4L
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    For those with Toney, Haaland and Darwin, is it understandable to drop Haaland for Jesus? I think you can justify it as KDB/Son can feasibly match Haaland, it's not looking like the 8mil mids will match Jesus

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    1. Swahealy
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Wait for Dennis the menace, back in the prem with Forest 🙂

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      1. F4L
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        not after his red in the DGW last year 😛

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        1. Swahealy
          • 2 Years
          1 year, 8 months ago

          Lol, apart from that he's a solid pick.

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    2. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      jesus christ - the wild reaction swings on this site are incredible.

      48hrs ago people were ripping their team apart to get Haaland.

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      1. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        Same every year.

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      2. F4L
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        point taken, guess just hope Saka can start to match jesus for the time being

        really not a fan of Haaland's limited minutes though

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      3. Clintymints
        • 14 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        I still would, he's going nowhere unless injured

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  12. Tomerick
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Darwin v Jesus. The age old debate.

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    1. InsertPunHere
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Both!

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      1. gart888
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        Darwin and Perisic or Robertson and Cancelo?

        Think I still fancy the latter.

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        1. Tomerick
          • 9 Years
          1 year, 8 months ago

          Depends on just how explosive Darwin ends up being and how often. I have a feeling we’re looking at Suarez territory in the making.

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      2. Tomerick
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        That’s where I arrived no regrets so far!

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    2. el polako
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Love it 🙂

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    3. lugs
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Richard Dawkins TC'd Darwin

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    4. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      I think this time around it's Darwin AND Jesus.

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    5. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Nice 1.

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    6. Clintymints
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Both + Haaland, no half measures

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  13. InsertPunHere
    • 1 Year
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Basically the only question in my team next week:
    Start Dasilva (FUL) or Neco (EVE)?

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    1. el polako
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Much of a muchness.
      Toss a coin.

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    2. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      If Dasilva's only shot of the game doesn't go in, does he make it past 60 minutes with the subs available?

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    3. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Neco

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    4. F4L
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Neco, will probably have more goalscoring opportunities than DaSilva , let alone with the CS potential

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    5. Clintymints
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Neco

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    6. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Both playing away are t they - I would go da silva being the more likely to get attacking return

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  14. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Come oooooonnn Robbo!!! Double-digit score !!!

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    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Up against a back 5 reduces his space, Phillips back there reduces his CS potential.

      Will be surprised if he scores 6+.

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      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        A deep back 5 may mean they rely on crosses from the full backs.

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        1. gart888
          • 9 Years
          1 year, 8 months ago

          Agreed. Think this set up favours a Darwin TAA Robbo triple up.

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        2. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          1 year, 8 months ago

          Looks to me like Palace will double up on Trent and Robbo. Maybe they recognise the dearth of creativity in midfield. Elliot could be important tonight.

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    2. Tomerick
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      *Darwin

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    3. BUZZBOMB
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Id settle for a Robbo attacking return, a clean sheet and for Trent to be semi conscious this GW.

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  15. Digital-Real
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Double Pool defence hopes not looking so promising

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  16. I Member
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Big game for Robbo here. If he blanks again it's probably going to be a mass exodus with people swapping to Chelsea/City defenders or changing formation to accommodate Darwin.

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    1. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      You could say that about a number of Pool players though. Big game for Darwin & Diaz too.

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      1. gart888
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        Less so for Darwin. Even if he blanks he's still looking at having more than 1 attacking return per 90.

        Agreed on Diaz though.

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    2. Salarrivederci
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Yes.

      I feel like the core of the template is doing that to all 'differential' template players.

      Fair to say that most started with

      TAA - Cancelo - James
      Salah - Martinelli
      Haaland - Jesus

      Resulting in Robbo/Walker/Perisic/Trippier/Cash/Digne/Zinch/Gabriel , Bailey/Neto & Kulu/Saka/Mount/Diaz/Mahrez/Foden/Maddison
      Heavingly relying on results, cause they drop fast when they do not deliver.

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    3. Alan Watts
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Darwin has to do really well to justify the extra 2m on Roberson and 1m on Diaz, or even the 8m mids....

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  17. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Brush, brush, it's time to brush your teeth
    Yes, yes, yes I want to brush my teeth
    Good, good, brushing is good for you
    Yay, yay, yay, I like it, oooh

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    1. Tomerick
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      You’re not the boss of me.

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  18. Just For Kicks
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    A = Haaland & Salina or B = Darwin & Cancelo on wildcard.

    Preferences or just flip a coin.

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    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      I'd want all 4. 😀

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    2. Rolls-Royce
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Is Salina the new chick in town?

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      1. Just For Kicks
        • 12 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        Saliba, dam autocorrect.

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    3. Clintymints
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      All of them

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  19. zdrojo187
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Darwin/Jesus/Haaland...100% season holders

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    1. Tomerick
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      That’s my plan

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    2. F4L
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Jesus should be if Nketiah gets EL, Haaland will probably be injured at some point tbh

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    3. Just For Kicks
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      And De Bryune

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    4. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Jesus only atm

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        Arsenal will be sweet until GW7, but then Jesus and his boys will be severely tested.

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    5. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Unless you want Cancelo, Trent and James at the back and a proper midfield, only two of them.

      Guess it is heavy upfront vs semi heavi upfront but balance mid and def

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    6. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Not if Toney & Mitro have big seasons!

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    7. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Are you sure? And what happens to the rest of the team?

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      1. Arteta
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        People thought alike about Ronaldo - Lukaku - Antonio strike force last season at pretty much the same time.

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    8. Bluetiger1
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Pause

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  20. Deanamo Jammy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    The last time Nathan Phillips played regularly with Liverpool in 2020/21, he started 15 games and recorded 7 clean sheets. 6 were in his final 10 starts at the end of the season, though they weren't against particularly stiff competition.

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      I've never seen a football player with an erection before. Seems strange.

      Now he would be stiff competition.

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    2. kamdaraji
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      THIS

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    3. gart888
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      And he didn't have VVD by his side.

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    4. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      How nailed is he whilst matip is out?

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        My guess is Gomez was meant to start. Don't go buying a 4m Liverpool player who gets one game! 😯

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        1. Stranger Mings
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 8 months ago

          Yeh v true - will avoid

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        2. Deanamo Jammy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          1 year, 8 months ago

          Yep, wait and see. But for today, double Pool defense owners like myself can have hope that the CS is still a possibility.

          Why isn't Gomez starting? He's not flagged for injury. And, what is the PL/CL CB rotation this year with Konate out? Maybe... Phillips is in the picture after all?

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  21. QUEN
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    What are rashford owners doing with him. Struggling to find an alternative

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    1. kamdaraji
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Jettisoned from my squad already before he dropped

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    2. gart888
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Swapped him to Rodrigo before the price changes on Saturday.

      It's one thing to have Rashford blanking for me every week, it's another to let him drain my team value.

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    3. markmcr
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Literally anyone else

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    4. FPLMACKEM
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Downgrade to Gordon and save 1m.

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      1. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        Lol.

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  22. El Presidente
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Salah cappers tonight we feast!!

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  23. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Right, 20 minutes til kick off.

    Enough time to settle back with an ice cold drink (cola) and watch the latest United fans reactions video on YouTube.

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  24. FPLMACKEM
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Ramsdale
    TAA, Robertson, Cancelo, James, Perisic
    Salah (c), Martinelli, Andreas
    Jesus, Haaland

    Ward, Neto, Bailey, Archer

    0 ITB 2 FT

    Not quite sure where to go from here. The elephant in the room is Neto and Bailey. The only was I could get a good replacement is to downgrade Robertson.

    Any suggestions on what moves I could make here?

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    1. petefa
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Move your chair in front of the TV?

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  25. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Is there anyone cheaper than Rodrigo who you think is a better pick in midfield?

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    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Aaronson

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    2. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Not to start every week.

      His teammate Aaronson looks promising and I think Neto will be decent in parts this season.

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    3. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      I couldn’t find one so went Rodrigo

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    4. popey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      IF Gallagher gets a move to Newcastle or similar, he might be the one

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  26. kamdaraji
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 8 months ago

    Klopp starts

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    1. @persecuted_by_mods
        1 year, 8 months ago

        And people say this forum is getting worse

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    2. marcos11
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      What minutes is Nunez likely to get? No Jota or Firmino on bench

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      1. F4L
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 8 months ago

        the full 90 to give him a chance to complete his hat trick

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    3. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      I hope Nunez wins a first half penalty

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    4. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      I just need Diaz to outscore Salah. That's it.

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    5. Kun Tozser
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 8 months ago

      Best attacking leeds defender?

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