Dugout Discussion

Monday Dugout Discussion

Let’s just say that our expectations are “moderate” at best. The clash between West Ham and Stoke is perhaps not everyone’s idea of a Gameweek finale, particularly after a glut of goals thus far. Even so, despite the likely war of attrition at Upton Park, we could yet be in line for a few spills, although in all likelihood, a 0-0 scoreline will be the result of choice for many Fantasy managers backing the mid-price defensive assets on show tonight.

Whatever we’re dealt, our Dugout Discussion Chatroom is open to those wishing to indulge in some real-time activity.

The news from East London finds two changes in the West Ham lineup with Yossi Benayoun and Matt Jarvis dropping out of the starting XI after picking up knocks in the win at Newcastle last time out. Their places go to Gary O’Neil and Modibo Maiga. Interestingly, Sam Allardyce also opts to keep James Collins on the bench, retaining James Tomkins alongside Winston Reid in his defence. George McCartney and Joey O’Brien are the full-backs again, leaving Guy Demel benched.

Stoke are unchanged, with Glenn Whelan passing a fitness test on a hamstring problem sustained whilst on international duty. Both Charlie Adam and Jon Walters have also overcome knocks to figure in Tony Pulis’ starting XI. Matt Etherington starts against his former club, then, with Michael Kightly again benched.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. rabsi1
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    My opponent is well stocked on West Ham and Stoke defenders. A 4-4 draw would be ideal!

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    1. Le Gooner
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Not if those defenders pop up with a goal or two in the 4-4. 1-1 will probably suit you.

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      i hope for your sake its the defenders that score in this 4-4 draw 😉

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      1. rabsi1
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        That was self explanatory 😛

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  2. Doolittle
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Wilkinson's off?! Oh no.

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  3. World XI
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Just hit 100 points. My best gameweek in 3 seasons.

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    1. emperikal
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Only a 100?!

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    2. Le Gooner
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Well done. Nice rank as well.

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      congrats

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    4. beric
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      f u

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      1. Crazy Joe
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Like you wouldn't do the same if you had that many points.

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      2. Breadbin
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Child.

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      3. Brookins
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Boring response.

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      4. beric
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Woah there, I'm just jealous is all.

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        1. Breadbin
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          What Breadbin said.

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          1. Crazy Joe
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Breadception.

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    5. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      And I bet you have no Baines...the proof is in the pudding, guys.

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      1. World XI
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        haha I do actually 🙂

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          🙁

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    6. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Congrats, monster score

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    7. World XI
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks chaps 🙂

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    8. Corrigan
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      You've doubled up on the Stoke attack?

      Where's the justice? Where's the karma?

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    9. thattreblefeeling
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Well done and the fact you've done it with 3 players from your supported club must make it even more satisfying I'd say

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    10. Granville
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Bladdy hell. Liverpool only won 3-0 and you squeezed out every point from that game. 51 points from them alone.

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      1. Jönny
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah I don't think I've ever seen anything like that, not a point missed from that game. Only way you couldve done better would have been Enrique (c) 😉

        Bet you were well rowdy watching that game!

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        1. Granville
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          7 points lost there, schoolboy error.

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        2. Corrigan
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          I had Defoe and Bale (C) for Wigan at home...

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  4. maglia rosa
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    as it stands..........26 pts on my bench 😯 20 pts for my team 😛

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    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      D'oh

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    2. Crazy Joe
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      It's a good team, just a bad week is all.

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      1. maglia rosa
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        yeah man i know......does make me laugh tho 😉

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Whats Doosra's record for Bench points?

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      1. Portuguese&Proud
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        43 i believe

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        1. cruzex
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          lol

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        2. Le Gooner
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Holy moses!

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      2. maglia rosa
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        hahaha think its in the 40's so im no where near ole doosra's form on that particular issue 😛

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      3. Shipstontrev
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        His record for bench presses js 2 😆

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      4. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        As far as I know I'm the only person who's bench scored more than his team...... 😎

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      5. Parm
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        30 odd.

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    4. Henry Hill
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Why bench Sterling at home to Wigan? Lots of people including myself seem to have got stung by leaving Cuellar on the bench, so sickening when that happens.

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      1. maglia rosa
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        i jus feel ya have to roll with the blows really what is funny tho is my 82 pts last week ffs 😆 how can a team be a world beater one week to throughly kick me in the ballacks the very next week, the sterling bench was an error it has to be said but considering my team pre deadline i thoght it fair enough..............clearly not 😳

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  5. Henry Hill
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Jaysus West Ham have some nasty fixtures on the horizon after tonight, lucky Big Fat Sam has got them good few points already

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  6. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    What is with this new booing at half time if your team is losing, idiots.

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    1. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Football crowds are generally a fickle bunch.

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        It's getting daft though.

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      2. Crazy Joe
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        How much is it for a ticket for Upton Park?

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      3. Locarno
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Fickle bunch of.....

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      4. Drip Doctor
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I can't remember it being this bad though. Everyone is at it.

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        1. Breadbin
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Pretty bad. At Spurs they booed when it was 0-0 at half time. I think the term supporters shouldn't be attributed to people participating in that.

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          1. Drip Doctor
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            • 13 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Yeah that is when i first noticed how bad it has become this season.

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      They're losing to Stoke...at home...to a Walters goal...on a cold monday night...and they support West Ham...I'd boo.

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      every team must win every half they play. we somehow need to find a way that both teams can be winning at half time

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    4. Back on the horse
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I blame X-factor

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      1. Breadbin
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Don't forget the government.

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  7. Crazy Joe
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Goal of the season so far according to Gary, can't wait for him to do his Andy Gray impression to show us why.

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  8. UKG
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Any help with my pile of shite team....I had the below lined up, then Hangeland got that red yesterday. Other option I suppose is just Hangeland > Cuellar, help!

    Going to keep Felliani and lose Baines now I think. I need Silva in. Thinking Baines > Cuellar and Noble > Silva look good moves both fixture and hopefully form wise, also gets rid of Noble as bench fodder and gives me this, for -4

    Begovic

    Baines Hangeland Gorkks Cameron

    Mata Bale Noble

    RVP Berba Lambert

    Foster michu Nelsen Felliani

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  9. The Gambler.
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Javier Garrido over 7000 NTI today - whats the big attraction or is it just based on CS vs Manu?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      due to his name, so cool to ignore, and he's Spanish

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    2. michaelington
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      3 cs in a row. Although it wont last.

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    3. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Sort defenders by form.

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    4. Le Gooner
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      3 consecutive clean sheets + an assist + 5 bonus points. I was tempted too.

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  10. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    you know u r addicted to FPL when it has just turned 1am, u have an early start and are still staying up to watch a stoke west ham game just to see if bego gets a CS...

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    1. Le Gooner
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      🙂 same here. 2:24 AM here

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      1. Jimmers
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Guys - go to bed and check first thing in the morning!

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        1. Le Gooner
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          I'll probably be checking the score on my phone right up till full time. Might as well watch the game and stroll into work late.

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  11. Super John McGinn-
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Wow didn't realize everyone was having such bad weeks i thought i was doing bad with 53, that will go up to 60 if Demel remains on the bench, also have Michu on bench but no chance of him making an apperance. Loads of goals in the league this week

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    1. xtina
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      i'm currently on 34 points with 2 green arrows the entire season o_O

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    2. Feanor
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I'm looking at 27, plus Begovic and Michu on the bench.

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    3. Granville
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      How can 53 be a bad week when the average is 46?

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      1. Jönny
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I'm on 64 and it's a terrible week for me because my mini league lead has been halved...it's all relative.

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      2. Kuyt Dirkula +42
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Oh Granville - your bench 🙁

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  12. Champy
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Dream team for GW12 looks surprising this week, Suarez not even in it.

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    1. Champy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Could have phrased that better I guess.

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  13. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    West Ham 0 – 1 Stoke – Half Time
    West Ham 2 – 1 Stoke – Full Time
    @ 45/1

    Stage one complete. Now how are West Ham looking?

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    1. Crouchy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      awful

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    2. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      it's possible but i wouldnt bet on it.. oops sorry u already did 😀

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    3. The Gambler.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      who to replace this week?

      Wilkinson
      Kacaniklic
      Fellaini

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  14. thattreblefeeling
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Neville is brilliant

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  15. Twisted Saltergater
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Gary Neville, I love you! 😆

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    1. Declan
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      +1

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Imagine Shearer or Hansen recognising that, or even bothering to comment on it. Bloody brilliant.

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      1. Henry Hill
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        What did he say?

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        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          He just showed the work that Stoke had put into a corner set piece. Saying it like that doesn't do the analysis justice though!

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  16. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    great analysis of the walters goal on sky right now

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    1. thattreblefeeling
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      yep he spots everything

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Did they plan on Carroll letting it through his legs? 😉

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      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I like how they broke it down piece by piece. Really gives you a good understanding of how good it was and how the set pieces are played out

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  17. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Big Robert Huth should get an assist for that run. Clutching....

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    1. thattreblefeeling
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      +zillion 🙂

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    2. xtina
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      is that a genuine possibilty or a cruel joke...?!..

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      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Neither.

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        1. xtina
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          meh.

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    3. Crazy Joe
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah, him and Crouch, time to appeal to AP.

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  18. Crazy Joe
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    As you've all said, great analysis from Neville.

    I say Crouch should get assist points for the goal.

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  19. Thomass
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    How many big hitters should you have in defence??

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      None

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    2. bennydebull
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      1 max

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    3. michaelington
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Im going with 0 this year. Doesnt seem to much value at the minute.

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    4. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      This season one, not many clean sheets going amoungst the big hitters

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    5. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      2 max

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    6. Le Gooner
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      None

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    7. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      What do you class as a big hitter? Huth? If yes then i have 3, if not then i have 2.

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    8. megatronaldinho
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      one or none by my reckoning

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    9. Kuyt Dirkula +42
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I have one in the shape of Baines.
      He's on the tightrope with recent poor returns....

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  20. UKG
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Fair play on that set peice goal from stoke. Great analysis from Gary.

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    1. bennydebull
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I reckon he was getting goose bumps while saying that.

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  21. Hazmat
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    That corner routine is never going to work again.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      doesn't have to, it worked once they will work on another one

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    2. Brookins
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      If it gets you a goal, does it matter?

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  22. BLitZ MaFiA SQuAD
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Stoke's Opener was very well Orchestrated right to the letter. Time & effort to make that goal happen was eveident. Every body at West ham [atleast] expected the ball to be delivered high. Adam Blocked off Mcartney as walters made the run from back post to near post. huth, crouch and shawcross was there just for show and to occupy the rest of west ham defence. I am impressed. did not see that one coming 🙂

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  23. FPLCURSE
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Hey guys please follow me on twitter. I'm the FPL Curse follow for more information. 🙂 https://twitter.com/FPLCURSE Please pass this onto friends.

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    1. Crouch Potato!
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Have you got a cv.

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    2. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I feel fortunate that you've chosen me to follow you. Jesus didn't have this impact on me. Maybe I'm scarred by my times as a child. I hope following you leavese feeling less empty.

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    3. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      To Holmgard and beyond

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    4. Back on the horse
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I'm not on twitter, so I will just follow you around in person, OK?

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      1. FPLCURSE
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        hahaha thanks no it's all good, Yeah read what ive put on Twitter to understand my bad luck this year on FPL. lol. So will put up my weekly transfer and what curse will happen. It's not even funny every game week it's happened lol.

        EXAMPLE:
        Gameweek 12 (this weeks) - Kacaniklic for Fulham been on my bench for weeks, bring him on this GW and he gets injured and Scores 1. However I brought Kacaniklic on and benched Jonathan Walters - Stoke and he goes and scores......every week I have bad luck and now wanna let people know weekly what Im doing lol.

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  24. Super Swans
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    hah.. i cant find any more reason to be positive...walter and tevez out plus -4 hit last week....shit...

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    1. megatronaldinho
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      guess you'e self- flagellating as we speak

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  25. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Is it not a bit unfair on Stoke doing all that analysis on live tv? They won't score ever again now. That was their only trick! They'd saved it up for a rainy day. back to 0-0's I guess.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I think the scouts/managers of their upcoming opponents don't need neville to analyse it for them.

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  26. Parm
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Gary makes Shearer look like a 5-year-old.

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  27. Deicide
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    If Sam doesn't put Demel in the second half Cuellar will be in my team so I can reach almost 60 points. Hope it happens.

    Stoke are extremely good defending.

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  28. Crouch Potato!
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Looking forward to another 45mins of the beautiful game.

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    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      The most English game i've seen for a while. 50% of the time the ball is in the air! 😀

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      1. Feanor
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        So long as Nolan knocks one in I don't mind.

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        1. Crouch Potato!
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Should have there.

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      2. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Must think its a bubble! 😉

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      3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        And a bunch of big manly MEN with tashes

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    2. heartsattack
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      It's the bit when the ball hits the ground that I like.

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  29. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    How was Nolan in the first 45?

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    1. maglia rosa
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      one assault on the keeper and thats ur lot 😛

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      1. maglia rosa
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        hahaha make that 2 wtf 😆

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Timing.

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  30. waitinginthelonggrass
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Who is more essential to get this week taking into account price rises etc Suarez or Silva?

    Ba and Bale would be the respective players leaving.

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