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Sky Sports – Formation Analysis

In our next article on the Sky Sports Fantasy game we unveil a new contributor to the Fantasy Football Scout team. Luke Williams, or “d1sable” as he is known to the community, joins the ranks to add his expertise to our coverage of this game, having established himself as “Hot Topic” specialist in recent weeks.

In Luke’s first article, he analyses the available options in formation for our Sky Sports starting XI. Ultimately our intention is to ascertain which tactical set-up is optimal for giving our teams the greatest chance of success, whilst also assessing the potential need for flexibility in our approach.

Firstly, let’s look at the five highest scoring outfield players per position last season. Our objective here is to gain an idea of the spread of points available from defence, midfield and attack – a vital aspect to consider when selecting formation.

Sky Sports Top Five Defenders 2012-13

NameTotal PointsPricePoints per £
Leighton Baines1547.121.69
David Luiz1436.821.02
Glen Johnson1356.520.76
Patrice Evra1327.916.7
Per Mertesacker1326.520.3

Sky Sports Top Five Midfielders 2012-13

NameTotal PointsPricePoints per £
Santi Cazorla2626.739.1
Gareth Bale2388.827.04
Juan Mata2058.923.03
Steven Gerrard1927.824.61
Michu1825.533.09

Sky Sports Top Five Forwards 2012-13

NameTotal PointsPricePoints per £
Luis Suarez2559.626.56
Robin Van Persie2501025
Wayne Rooney1839.818.67
Christian Benteke1837.524.4
Dimitar Berbatov1827.524.26

As the tables highlight, the highest scoring defender (Leighton Baines, 154) scored just over 100 points less than the top midfielder (Santi Cazorla, 262) and attacker (Luis Suarez, 255). This won’t come as a shock to the experienced Fantasy manager: this tends to mirror most Fantasy games; it only serves to remind us where we should be spending the majority of our budget.

Another important point to note is that midfielders offered very similar returns to attackers but, for the majority of the time, at a reduced cost, as highlighted by their points per million. Obviously, costs have been adjusted for this season but with midfielders having a maximum value of 9.0 and attackers 10.0, your budget will be stretched that little bit further to acquire the services of the top attackers rather than the premium midfielders.

In terms of formations, Sky Sports offers you five different options: 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 5-3-2, 3-5-2 & 4-5-1. We have chosen to dismiss 5-3-2 and 4-5-1 on the basis that they seem slightly counter-productive, five defenders will surely limit our Fantasy returns and a formation with a single forward seems far too negative in our quest for goals. With that in mind, let’s cast an eye over the pros and cons of the three more offensive tactical set-ups and assess the optimum time to put them to use.

4-4-2

Pros

  • Flexible: if this season’s Michu or Christian Benteke crop up you can adjust accordingly to 3-5-2 or 4-3-3 with a single transfer.
  • You should be clear to acquire an expensive front two due to the cheaper prices offered in defence and midfield.

Cons

  • Having four at the back could hinder your overall points potential due to the relatively low scores achieved by defenders in comparison to midfielders and attackers.

Best time to use
Due to its flexibility, the 4-4-2 is certainly useful as an initial formation for the more cautious Fantasy manager.

4-3-3

Pros

  • Having three strikers clearly offers the potential for more goals.
  • Arguably, this formation also provides more captain options as you are more likely to hand the armband to an attacker.

Cons

  • If you wish to move to 3-5-2 it will take you two transfers.
  • Again, having four defenders is a slight risk due to the rarity of clean sheets.
  • Attackers come with a higher price tag and it can take a large chunk of your budget, potentially having a big impact on your midfield and defence.

Best time to use
This formation is most useful for the run-in. Perhaps the most efficient tactic is acquiring a big hitter in defence to cover the business-like performances from the top teams and a value attacker that has come to light from one of the lesser sides fighting for survival: they should be highly motivated whilst offering guaranteed starts.

3-5-2

Pros

  • Five midfielders gives you a higher chance to receive the bonus points on offer for completed passes and tackles.
  • You can field seven attacking players, more than any other system in the Sky Sports game as 3-4-3 is unavailable.
  • A three man backline means fewer players can lose points for goals conceded.
  • Midfielders offer the best points per price value.

Cons

  • If you wish to keep your current attackers but want to add a third in-form frontman and shift to 4-3-3, you need to make two transfers, replacing a pair of midfielders with a defender and attacker.

Best time to use
Most of the season, if not all of it, It’s pretty hard to make a case for any formation over the formidable 3-5-2, which could well be the default set-up for many of our teams.

Data suggest that this set-up should carry the most potential to gain Fantasy points, although as mentioned above, there is a small case for a shift in formation towards the season run-in to a 4-3-3. Of course, each season is different from the last and it’s important to back the in-form players regardless of their position. With an added 10 transfers this season giving us 40 in total and with no monthly cap, we should perhaps find it easier to be flexible and adjust our formation accordingly.

Fantasy Football Scout League

Once again, we’ve set up an official Fantasy Football Scout league for those playing the Sky game – we’re looking to defend our crown, having finished as top-rated league in 2012/13. If you fancy the challenge, you can enter with the pin 8000112 and with Sky offering a cool £1,000 for the winner of our official “FFScout” league, there’s every incentive to get on board.

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    1. roscola
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Very well done

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    2. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Love Jason Sudeikis.

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    3. Chu Young Ping Pong
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      How many countries are in this country 😀 😀

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    4. OShaughnessy
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      "No playoffs? Again, my job just got a lot easier... Ties & no playoffs. Why do you even do this?"
      Coach Ted Lasso

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  1. A Bagel
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Final RMT.

    Mignolet (Davis)

    Azpil, Lescott, Coleman, (Collins, Turner)

    Hazard, Walcott, Silva, Kagawa, (Colback)

    Lukaku, Sturridge, Lambert

    ANY thoughts...?!?

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    1. Courtois in the Rye
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Good team. Azpil more of a gamble than is necessary for me given the potential DGW returns of others.

      I don't like Kagawa but I know many do.

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    2. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      you wish it was your final RMT

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    3. penguinsofdeath
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Agree with the thoughts on Azpi, especially if he is on Spain duty.

      Kagawa could be gold dust but the opening fixtures have put me off

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      1. A Bagel
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        SO, Azpil, Cahill, or Terry then...??

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      I like it mostly ...

      I would suggest a few bob less in your defenders, and a few bob more on your strikers.

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  2. FPL Daniel
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    10 years, 10 months ago

    When is better to make WC. After GW2 or after GW3? Only between those 2, cause I am keen on using it early.

    After GW2 means you can offolad all of your Che and Villa players cause they have blank and bring RVP in example.

    After GW3 there is larger fixtures swing than after GW 2 and you have the international break. It won't be that boring for those 2 weeks, the transfer deadline has passed and you can react on some injuries.

    Thoughts..?
    Cheers

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    1. Mak_Gold
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Timing. 😀

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      • The Mighty One
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        10 years, 10 months ago

        Honestly Daniel, save it. Use it in GW 33....I have done that the past two years and I rode away with the title each time. Will power!

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Trying to convince myself to wait until GW 3, but I am not so sure that I will handle it. Surely there will be plenty of bandwagons

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          1. The Mighty One
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            10 years, 10 months ago

            I said 33, not 3!!!

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      • TexanRed
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        10 years, 10 months ago

        I fail to see what you learn after one GW of play to justify a GW2 WC that you should not already know pre-season? I will be holding onto mine for the long term.

        For example the main issues this year seem to be who is be Chelsea and Man U's back 4, will any Man U Mid's turn into a monster and what will City's front line look like. The latter I don't think will ever fully resolve and just because a player starts one week its not them nailed on for the whole season.

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      • OShaughnessy
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        10 years, 10 months ago

        "Don't get set into one WC form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like WC water.
        Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like WC water.
        Now you put our WC water in a cup, it becomes the cup;
        You put the WC water into a bottle it becomes the bottle;
        You put the WC in a teapot it becomes the teapot.
        Now WC water can flow, or it can crash.
        Be the WC water, my friend."

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    2. Mak_Gold
        10 years, 10 months ago

        @Christina, so you're saying waiting even for GW 4 to wildcard is waiting too long? I'm just trying to gauge people's opinion on when is the best time to wildcard. In past seasons, I have waited WAY too long to WC and I think I paid the price in terms of my overall rank. I want to WC as early as I can this season, preferably in GW 4. But now you're saying it is too long to wait even until GW 4 I'm somewhat concerned.

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        1. Rupert The Horse
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          10 years, 10 months ago

          I have wild carded in GW4 in most seasons. This time round I'm thinking 3.

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        2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I'm holding onto mine for a week longer than I did last season. GW3.

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        3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          10 years, 10 months ago

          Game Week 7 is my advice ...

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        4. Efan Ekoku Pops
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I have played my WC in week 7/8 over the past two seasons, after the international break. Hasn't done me any harm. Gives enough time to watch players hit form and still catch price rises.

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        5. penguinsofdeath
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          10 years, 10 months ago

          Do it when it feels right... don't plan it, just wait for the week that you look at your team and think "oh no, where has this gone wrong"

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          1. Mak_Gold
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Cheers all. I think after GW 3, i.e. the first international break sounds like the best time to do it. Plenty of time to hop on/off bandwagons and make some TV and set the team up for the rest of the season.

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            • Jönny
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              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Spot on. There's no "right time" it depends on how your team does. I've done it early the last couple of seasons, but that probably reflects more on my terrible starting choices than anything else!

              What I will say though is that a good start is very important - if you're chasing a big gap from GW10 onwards you're going to make lots of dodgy decisions looking for a "differential"

              Use it when you think you've got an opportunity to benefit from it.

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          2. FPL Daniel
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            timing. check my post above

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        6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          10 years, 10 months ago

          West Ham United Pre-Season Spreadsheet, for those who missed it ...

          https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Atwq4Ph6mY6JdHhYRERrVGNON21kZ0pSNHNQd0xWTVE#gid=0

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          1. Chu Young Ping Pong
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I'm not getting any West Ham players! 😀

            Maybe Carrol, if he's fit.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Suit yourself. Cardinal error. I shall have three.

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              1. Chu Young Ping Pong
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                3? 😯

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  Yep. Most people with a balanced team will have 2.

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                  1. Lawrø
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 10 months ago

                    😯

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                  2. Captain Shirokov
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                    10 years, 10 months ago

                    😯

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                  3. TexanRed
                    • 10 Years
                    10 years, 10 months ago

                    I think that is a strech! Collins seems a shoe in and I can see the value in Nolan but with SO many midfield options I don't see anything beyond 1 in my team (unless Adrian starts)

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              2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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                10 years, 10 months ago

                Collins, Noble, Vaz Te?

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  Nearly. Not Vaz Te, Adrián/Jääskeläinen

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                  1. Scroobius Mac
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                    10 years, 10 months ago

                    😆

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                    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                      10 years, 10 months ago

                      It is my only chance so far, and I intend to seize it with both hands, lest it never reoccurs. 🙂

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                    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                      10 years, 10 months ago

                      Mind you, I can't see the amusement in Boruc/Hammers keeper. Perfect rotation. Ah well, each to his own.

                      I personally think that the Mignolet thing is inviting disaster, but there you go. 🙂

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                      1. GREENDREAMS11
                        • 14 Years
                        10 years, 10 months ago

                        Foster and Boruc is nice on the rotating keepers. Just changed out migs for this very pair.

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                      2. TexanRed
                        • 10 Years
                        10 years, 10 months ago

                        What possible disaster is there for the second most proven defense in the league?

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                        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                          10 years, 10 months ago

                          1.) That they don't perform, for whatever reason.
                          2.) Whatever happens, Mignolet will get fewer save points, as Liverpool concede fewer chances, just as you say.
                          3.) You can forget about bonus points, too.

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                          1. TexanRed
                            • 10 Years
                            10 years, 10 months ago

                            1) Makes no sense and could be said of any player/team and is not a reason.
                            2) Correct but he will clearly improve on his 11 CS's from last season.
                            3) Ummmmmmm you mean he won't beat last season's stunning total of 2 WHOLE BONUS POINTS! Compared to 4 that Pool keepers earned last season!

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                  2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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                    10 years, 10 months ago

                    Collins, Jarvis

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                    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                      10 years, 10 months ago

                      Are those yours?

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                      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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                        10 years, 10 months ago

                        yup

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                        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                          10 years, 10 months ago

                          Good man. I will keep a stern eye on Jarvis for you. He has certainly had one-and-a-half excellent matches in the last ten days.

                          I will also alert you if/when I junk Collins for Reid/Rat.

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                          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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                            • 12 Years
                            10 years, 10 months ago

                            Ta.

                            Jarvis had an excellent record at Wolves, but never quite delivered last year

                            am hoping he can have a big season

                            Could Collins come under threat from Tomkins?

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                            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                              10 years, 10 months ago

                              Yep. It is making me squirm a bit. Tomkins is a MUCH better player, but BFS has doubts. Also Tomkins has been unlucky, Collins the other way entirely. I think he must be related to Jesus.

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          2. Blue Lion
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            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            A)Walcott & Bony

            OR

            B) Giroud & Michu

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        7. Sharkey
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Is Aspas, Dzeko & Lukaku too weak a foward line

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          1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Too punty for my liking. I would get someone a bit safer in for Dzeko - and then if Dzeko still looks first choice after GW1, do Lukaku --> Dzeko for GW2. Giroud might be worth a shout as a safe option instead of Dzeko. He is at least nailed (barring further signings) and has decent fixtures.

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        8. Flicka
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Is Zab nailed-on? Or is there rotation risk from Richards?

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            10 years, 10 months ago

            There is.

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          2. o0Ash
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Zab is the best fullback in the league, but will miss PL games from time to time.

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          3. TexanRed
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Certainly once the Champs League roles around there will be rotation but I think about as nailed on as you can get in the top 3 teams back 4's. But if you haven't got Migs/Toure then I love G.Johnson at that price bracket.

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        9. Dr. Rog
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Best keeper to rotate with Boruc for

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          1. Chu Young Ping Pong
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Don't get Boruc. Trust me.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              10 years, 10 months ago

              Why should we? 😉

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          2. saata
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            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Foster

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          3. Malkmus
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I've gone Mannone.

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        10. Malkmus
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          A'noon all,

          I know there is a lot of chat about getting RVP in for GW4 for Palace at home, (and I'll be getting him in then fo sure), but just as big will be City having Hull at home on GW3.

          I think you will need to have a certain city starter for that game as will surely by a goal bonanza This could mean dzecko is super-risky and should be out for kun/negredo depending on how the city line up evolves in the next 3 weeks. I'll be planning on dzecko to kun I think unless negredo or dzecko look nailed on.

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          1. Dr. Rog
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            plan to cover all bases with Silva/Aguero/Dzeko triple combo.

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            1. Malkmus
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Really ? That truly is a lot of citeh. Could bring points galore too if your team isn't knackered by doing it..

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        11. PB-THE-VET
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Can i get a dgw rmt?

          Migs 4m

          Cole coleman collins 4m 4m

          Hazard walcott couthino mirales thomas

          Lukuku lambert berbatov

          Plan is to do cole and lukuku to 4m def and Rvp after gw2

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        12. Atwood
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Re; goalkeeper discussion from a few pages back.

          Just to clarify, if you're gonna have a 4.0 GK (e.g. squad filler), is it better to have one who nobody else has? So pick someone like Rudd (0.2 % ownership) because his price won't go down, whereas someone like Davis might?

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          1. Lucas Leiva
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Yes.

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          2. Scroobius Mac
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Are any of the 4.0 keepers only one injury away from being first choice? They'd then be useful back-up if you got lucky.

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            1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              In other words, are they Bunn last season?

              Lewis I think maybe, and possibly Harper

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              1. Scroobius Mac
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                Yeah Bunn Cerny Stockdale - that bloke.

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          3. 4vets
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Go Rudd

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          4. r0binh0
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Don't players drop in value when 10% of their owners ditch them? How are ownership levels therefore relevant?

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          5. TexanRed
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Yes that is the right answer. Although with no starters at 4.0m likely then I can't see a reason for anyone to make any transfers at that level.

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          6. OShaughnessy
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            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Oh, & I'd say go for a team you fell you could never field three players from either...

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            1. FPL Daniel
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              I must say something here. For very low owned players the algorithm is different. No one knows how it is exactly regarding price drops. You gonna see a lot of low owned players above 100% mark ready for falling within weeks time on both sides (TFPL and Fiso) and still won't drop. So its guess work. I am going Davis and Boruc. If Boruc looses, gets injured I have ready mate replacement. Never mind if he falls in price cause I won't sell him anyway. You lose money only if you sell.

              Cheers alll

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        13. The Mighty One
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          The Telegraph's fantasy game:
          Anyone got any tips/strategies?
          Bargains?
          Is RVP whorthwhile at 8.0 out of 50 (equivalent to 16.0 in FPL, but all goals are worth 5 points)?

          Thanks in advance, mates!

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        14. Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I currently have both Michu and Bony in my team... 😎

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          1. elkunaguero
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            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I don't envy you. That's a lot of other options you are potentially missing

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          2. Lucas Leiva
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Fixture proof FTW!

            May start with one, definitely will have Bony in my team by GW5/6. I can see him scoring on the opening day v United though.

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            1. Lawrø
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Bony's my definite, having Michu comes with having more money than I want!

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          3. elkunaguero
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            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I think Bony will come good. Not sure Michu is worth 9.5 with Bony in front of him.

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            1. saata
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              • 11 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Michu scored better last year while playing in the hole..
              That's his superpower..

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            2. Tim Canterbury
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Michu is 9.0

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          4. Flicka
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I'm really starting to come around to just starting with Swansea GW1. But I can only fit one of them and have Bony.

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        15. Captain Shirokov
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Luke Moore scored more goals than Welbeck last season, where's his England call up?

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          1. Leeroy Jenkyns
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Top scorers last 16 for England (2nd June 2012 - 2nd June 2013):
            Rooney - 8
            Lampard -6
            Defoe-5
            Welbeck - 4

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        16. Get up ya bum
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Why would the Spanish players get back to london on Saturday? They play on Wednesday, surely they'd be back Thursday?

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          1. gravless
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Playing the match on the moon?

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        17. v12w12
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Is Clyne injured?

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          1. BumblebeeTuna
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Yep. Shaw seems to be the pick if your after a Southampton def

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        18. FPL Daniel
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Well actually Cech isn't that bad choice for the double. Saves you a transfer in GW3 too.

          Mig + Cashley = 12m
          Cech + Toure = 11,5m

          Hmmmm......
          Anyone in the the Cech camp..?

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          1. Lawrø
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I have the same dilemma, I switched to Ivanovic and Mignolet in the end as it should be better long term

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            1. 4vets
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Same as me Lawro as I don't intend to WC early this season. We shall see.

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            2. FPL Daniel
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              i plan to wc early

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          2. Manani
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            gw3

            /post

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            1. FPL Daniel
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              thanks manani.

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          3. elkunaguero
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            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I'm getting Cech because I think he's safe for 180 mins in GW1, my problem is that my second GK will need to be 4.0-4.5 and it may backfire if he doesnt play in GW3 when Chelsea have no fixture

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            1. Yome
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              you are potentially missing out on some great attacking returns from Ivan, Terry or Cole, just saying...

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              1. elkunaguero
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                yes, but more certainty of starting

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          4. Lucas Leiva
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            It's the safest option, guaranteed 180 minutes.

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          5. Baines on Toast...
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Terry/Mig is cheaper than both and you'll get more points. People picked cole last year because he's most nailed on and look what happened.

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            1. Yome
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              this!

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          6. User
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Cech, Cole, Hazard for me at present - I want 3 Chelsea players and this seems the safest way to go about it.

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            1. Yome
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              If Chelsea concedes in both games, you won't get much. Lukaku is a great option for this DGW, he can score and assist even though he will not play 180mins

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              1. User
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                I'm expecting around 8 points each from Cech and Cole, and I'm looking to play Dzeko from the start, so that my only transfer out in the first couple of game weeks is there if Dzeko lets me down. I don't think I'd want Lukaku stuck in my team if there are other problems in my team - kinda like how I remember many people stuck with Ba in their teams after Chelsea's DGW last season.

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          7. saata
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I'm definitely doing it!

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        19. Stretford End
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Anyone interested in joining my league. Trying get as many people as possible. My code is 197921-54556. All welcome

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        20. Sharkey
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          A) Nolan & Giroud

          B) Coutiniho & Dzeko

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          1. McSauce
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            B

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          2. v12w12
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            B

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        21. McSauce
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Tempted by oscar for the DGW

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          1. gravless
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            and so you should be.

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          2. Manani
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            same, but defence+lukaku+hazard means no place for oscar,
            if I can get 4, oscar is defo in

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            1. McSauce
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Tempted by oscar over lukaku as i feel he will get only 1 of 2 games but oscar will prob get both!!

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              1. Get up ya bum
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                Oscar's unlikely to start both imo.

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            2. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              feck Chelsea defence

              Oscar, Hazard and Lukaku FTW

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              1. Get up ya bum
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                I've now swapped Oscar for KDB 😮

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          3. elkunaguero
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            very tempted indeed... he did great for me end of last season and I have high expectations for him this year... can he featue in both games in GW1, though? Chelsea seems to have tons of options in midfiled....

            De Bruyne ? Schurrle>

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        22. Turtleo
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          What are peoples' thoughts on the 4.0 goalkeeper situation?

          If I get Rudd, who has been loaned out for the season and red flagged, he has just 0.2% ownership so won't fall. The 4m is effectively locked away in case its needed later, but obviously there is no chance of him playing.

          I see the alternative as being Lewis (CAR), as far as I'm aware, he is the only 4.0 GK who is even second choice and so just one injury/suspension away from playing. I think the rest are third choice but may be wrong. His current ownership of 1.8 makes me worried he may drop in price.

          I'm not a big fan of non-playing GKs but I think pairing with Mignolet is safe and need to squeeze in RVP.

          Any thoughts? Many Thanks

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          1. v12w12
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Go for it, makes sense.

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          2. A.T
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I'd just pick the one with lowest ownership.

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          3. BumblebeeTuna
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Is the 0.5m saved worth the extra trade if Mignolet doesn't play one week? Personally I'm going with a 4.5m backup, downgrade a defender if u can manage

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            1. Turtleo
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              I have 1m banked to upgrade Lukaku/JRod to whoever seems most appealing.
              I'd definitely rather have that option than a backup who'll I'll never play by choice. I see it as likely 2 points saved if Mignolet doesn't play and a backup comes in.
              Generally, I agree with you but I've squeezed every 0.5 I can at the moment.

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              1. BumblebeeTuna
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                Fair enough

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          4. Turtleo
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Thanks for the replies, appreciate it.

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        23. Dr. Rog
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Dr. Rog's plan

          Boruc/Mannone
          Cole Kos Coleman Shaw/Collins
          Hazard Walcott Silva Miralles (Thomas)
          Lukaku Dzeko Sturridge
          0.5 banked.

          Plan is Cole/Lukaku --> Brayford / Aguero
          thereby obtaining triple City attack and captaincy options for car HUL.

          Then once wk3 has commenced, smash out the wildcard, trade like a demon over the international break and pick whatever the correct (optimised over form/fixtures/nailed-on-ness) team is for wk4 and beyond.

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          1. 4vets
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I think we all need to wait and see what the Bale situation is.

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            1. Dr. Rog
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Bale is gone. Even if he does play against Palace, his head will be somewhere else.
              AVB may not even start him if he knows he is leaving, it could be disruptive

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              1. 4vets
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                I'll wait and see, thanx 🙂

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        24. Ostrich Baby
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Howdy all, any thoughts on my team?

          Cech (Boruc)

          Koscielny, Brayford, Luna (Collins, Parr)

          Walcott, Silva, Hazard (c), Mirallas (Kim)

          Soldado, Lukaku (vc), Bony

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        25. A Bagel
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          SO, Azpil, Cahill, or Terry then...?? 6m option for the DGW...

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          1. Lucas Leiva
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Terry.

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          2. gravless
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I've carried out extensive and painstaking analysis of the situation and decided against having a Chelsea defence option.

            However, if you are determined to have one then I would advise going the Cech route currently being discussed on this very page.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Why so, Wiska?

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              1. gravless
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                As Cloughie once said, many moons ago, it only takes a second to score a goal.

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  True. I have made a similar point aloft, about Mignolet.

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                2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  I see JK is steering the same course ...

                  Hmmm.

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                  1. Get up ya bum
                    • 14 Years
                    10 years, 10 months ago

                    As am I Doos

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          3. BumblebeeTuna
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Terry's my pick of those 3, hopefully the most minutes

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            1. Dr. Rog
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Cole, totally nailed on. As is Cech

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              1. gravless
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                That statement may come back to haunt you.

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                1. GREENDREAMS11
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  Cant see it cole is as nailed as it gets at chelsea.

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              2. BumblebeeTuna
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                If he's after a 6.0m tho

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        26. Count of Monte Hristo
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          If Bale leaves Spurs is Soldado going to get enough quality service to justify his £9m price?

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          1. 4vets
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            9.5m Count. I think he'll do well no matter what. Totty have some great players and with Bale gone I reckon he will score more.

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            1. Count of Monte Hristo
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Fair enough. Paulinho, Dembele, Holtby, Siggy and Lennon doesn't seem bad at all.

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              1. GREENDREAMS11
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                Yeah. And if bale goes Chadli could be. Steal at his price too.

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          2. Lucas Leiva
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Without doubt.

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          3. BumblebeeTuna
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            They're spending plenty of money so you'd think so

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          4. Yome
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Rumors saying Spurs are looking at Pjanic of Roma, this guy is an assist machine!

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            1. Courtois in the Rye
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Pjanic on the streets of London - new username ftw

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        27. Baines on Toast...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          One thing I keep seeing around here is people talking about 'playing it safe,' particularly with the double gameweek. This is not the best way to play the game. If you pick Cech, yes, you get 180 mins and a chance of two clean sheets, but there's a glass ceiling that's half the size of what a defender can get. Even Cashley, last year everyone who picked him found out the hard way what you get for playing it safe.

          The game is all about taking risks at the right time. A double gameweek at the very start of the season, when everyone's on a level playing field and there's a limit to how much can really go wrong, is exactly that sort of time. If you pick the safe option, best case scenario you have a decent week and worst case scenario you get left a long way behind.

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          1. 4vets
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Oh yes... I played safe with Terry & Mata for gw1 last season 🙁

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            1. Dr. Rog
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              haha me too. i went with Terry & Lamps.

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            2. Captain Shirokov
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Lampard + Ivan 😎

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            3. Optimus.
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              mata,torres+.............ivan 😎

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          2. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Oscar, Hazard, Lukaku FTW

            Triple attack

            Go big or go home

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            1. elkunaguero
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              I like your style

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          3. Courtois in the Rye
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Problem is any Chelsea defender, even potentially Cashley could end up with fewer than 91 mins on the pitch.

            Taking advantage of a DGW is all about playing twice and Cech has the best shot plus when he saves Koren and Benteke pens there's be a GW1 no.1 w Cech as captain.

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          4. Sánchez
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Who are you getting?

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        28. Courtois in the Rye
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          When you've played your wildcard can you take advantage of price rises trading a player in on Monday and out on Thursday?

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          1. gravless
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            It has been done before, yes.

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        29. Atwood
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Are the non-RVP owners constantly contemplating snapping him up as much as I'm contemplating getting rid for an all-star midfield?

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Not at all 🙂

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          2. BumblebeeTuna
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Nah. Go for the all-star midfield. Looks soooo much better 🙂

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          3. 4vets
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I don't think I need RVP until Man U show some form.

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            1. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              no one has form yet, season hasn't begun!! silly comment!!

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              1. 4vets
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                Go your own way then...

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                1. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
                  • 13 Years
                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  no disrespect meant by the way in my comment!

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            2. Atwood
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Getting him in is no simple feat though, that's my concern.

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        30. BON
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Afternoon gents,

          A lot of discussion about Van Persie ruining the balance of our teams, but I think I've found something that doesn't actually look too bad.

          Let me know your thoughts.

          Cheers

          http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9646/5p9m.jpg

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          1. Optimus.
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            my Rvpless team would wipe the floor with yours 🙂

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            1. BON
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Do share. 😉

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          2. cassanata
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Very like my team which means its almost perfect.

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          3. 4vets
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Only 2 Chels for the DGW? He's ruined the balance of your team 😉

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          4. Sharkey
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            can someone please post one as i cant see the link

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            1. BON
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Szczesny / Boruc

              Toure / Coleman / Collins / Brayford / Chester

              Walcott / Hazard / Coutinho / Mirallas / Thomas

              Van Persie / Lukaku / Anelka

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          5. BumblebeeTuna
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Looks pretty good, just not sold on Anelka yet. Who you getting in for Lukaku after GW 1/2?

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            1. BON
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Thanks.

              I'm considering Lukaku > Bony after Gameweek 1.

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              1. BumblebeeTuna
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                Very nice 🙂

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          6. Dr. Rog
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            thats a nice team

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          7. elkunaguero
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            you need more City players, they have superb fixtures at the beginning of season

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            1. BON
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Valid point. I could possibly do the following transfers after the double Gameweek.

              Hazard > Silva / Navas

              Lukaku > Dzeko (depending on Aguero's fitness)

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        31. GREENDREAMS11
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Can anyone tell me if Yanga Mbiwa is nailed on for the toon

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          1. Sharkey
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            no way

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          2. Dukes of Hazard
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Afraid not.

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          3. Get up ya bum
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Nope

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          4. GREENDREAMS11
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Cheers all

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