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World Cup 2014 – Dugout Discussion – Matchday 4, Day 4

We reach the final day of Matchday 4 this evening as the World Cup edges towards the quarter-final stages. Argentina and Switzerland go head-to-head in the early 5pm kick-off as Alejandro Sabella’s look to maintain their 100% record so far, while Lionel Messi’s Fantasy owners will be optimistic of picking up the points in a round which has seen the likes of Neymar, Robin Van Persie and Karim Benzema fail to score over the previous three evenings:

Argentina: Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Gago, Mascherano, Di Maria; Messi, Higuain, Lavezzi

Switzerland: Benaglio; Lichtsteiner, Djourou, Schar, Rodriguez; Inler, Behrami; Xhaka, Shaqiri Mehmedi; Drmic

Argentina make just one enforced change from the side that saw off Nigeria last time around, with Ezequiel Lavezzi replacing the injured Sergio Aguero in the front three. Having scored four of his side’s six goals, Messi is the standout option for the South Americans, with the likes of Gonzalo Higuain and Angel di Maria yet to pick up any returns whatsoever over their first three matches.

Switzerland, unsurprisingly, are changed from the XI that swept aside Honduras in the final group match. Fabian Schar continues in central defence, then, with Ricardo Rodriguez owners looking for further attacking returns from the raiding left-back, who already has a couple of assists to his name. Further up the field, Xherdan Shaqiri is the form player, having bagged a hat-trick against the Hondurans, while Josip Drmic also arrives on the back of a decent display which served up a pair of assists in the 3-0 win.

Later in the evening, Belgium seek to extend a record which has seen them win every match in the tournament. Marc Wilmots made a number of changes for the final group game against South Korea and Fantasy favourites such as Eden Hazard and Kevin de Bruyne are expected to return to the starting XI against the USA. Divock Origi may fancy his chances of a start up front after another impressive display off the bench last time around, whilst at the back, the Belgians will be desperate for Vincent Kompany to recover in time for tonight’s clash as they look to maintain a series of defensive displays which has seen them concede just a single spot-kick so far.

After beating Ghana and drawing with Portugal, Jurgen Klinsmann’s side tasted defeat in their final group game against Germany. The USA will be looking to bounce back immediately and Clint Dempsey, with a goal in each of his first two appearances, is the main threat for the underdogs, though Graham Zusi, with two assists to his name, and Jermaine Jones, with a goal and assist to date, could be key to Klinsmann’s chances of springing an upset.

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  1. Gnu
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    Vets, check your mail.

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    1. 4vets
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      See mt happy reply 🙂

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  2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    DVB back up to 12 🙂

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    1. The Shoonchy
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      Jyeahhh 😀

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  3. Coaly
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    RM McD's QF first draft squad:

    Cillensen (1m 1m)
    Hummels Sakho Van Buyten Rojo (Duarte 1m 1m)
    J Rod Di Maria Cuadrado (Kroos 1.5m 1m 1m)
    Messi Neymar Robben (Joel Campbell 1m)

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Needs more Dutch

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      1. Coaly
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        Can do Hummels and Campbell to Blind and Van P?

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    2. Dynamic
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      Rojo is suspended.

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      1. Coaly
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        Thanks

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    3. mosh
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      I would be wary of Hummels too. Would he have recovered from his flu by Friday?

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  4. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Oh to add to the World Cup let downs post from earlier.....Hazard

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  5. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
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    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/7505453

    What we all should be contributing to now, is this hot topic by Jonty.
    "Key quarter finals players"

    🙂

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  6. crystalpalaceRus
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    Oh yeh i forgot Rojo is suspended

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  7. Dynamic
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    Who will replace Rojo in the Argentina defence?

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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      Basanta - the guy who came on for him

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    2. crystalpalaceRus
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      Im going with Fernandez hes had like 40pts lol

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      1. Shipstontrev
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        Might be worth getting both

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  8. 4vets
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    FFS WC... did we really beat Germany 5-0? Oh my!

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    1. Bubz
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      How are you finding these scores out?

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      1. 4vets
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        The spreadsheet

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      2. The Missing Link
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        Just look at the macdonalds leagues and minus previous scores

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    2. Shipstontrev
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      Looks like it great team formation 😉

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      1. 4vets
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        Looks like a great captain to me!

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    3. RoysCallerAnne
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      Hey Vets, why did you leave for a year? Was it to do with that incident last summer when TM locked an "innocent" post of mine?

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      1. 4vets
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        The were multiple reasons but this isn't the place to discus, You can mail me on 4vets at c8.com if you really want to. I's be glad to talk.

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
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          Cheers

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    4. Gnu
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      Well done Team belguim. 🙂

      A big hard luck to Team Germany, it was much much closer than the score suggests.

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  9. Van Klinkert Delarosa
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    Would be brilliant if someone can list down players that will missed the QF.

    Cheers.

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
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      Gerrard, Rooney, Pirlo, Iniesta

      Emmmm... There are loads more too

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      1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
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        Hahaha. Don't stop, you are doing great. 🙂

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    2. Shipstontrev
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      23 Englishmen for a start 🙄

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    3. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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      Shaqiri Ronaldo Gerrard Rooney Pirlo Iniesta Suarez Cavani Sanchez Vidal Modric Rakitic Mandzukic Xavi Fabregas Silva Villa Ramos Yaya Drogba De Rossi Chiellini Dzeko Pjanic Moutinho

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  10. NED KELLY
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    Sanchez to RVP is a must

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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      but rvp was poor v mexico

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      1. Shipstontrev
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        Very poor - 4 points only.

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  11. crystalpalaceRus
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    Abel AGUILAR for colombia a good cheap pick?

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  12. Bubz
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    Viva la Cartel!

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  13. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
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    In a game where both RVP and Robben are forwards, and scoring is similar to Mirror/FOX one.

    Who do I pick? 🙂

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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      Robben

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    2. chrisjdgrady
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      Robben has been better and is basically a forward, im going with him

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  14. Dr Dream
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    Outstanding effort by team Iran to come back from 4-1 down to win 3-2...Nail biting ties between Coldplay and Kinnear and Potatoace and..err..me...going right down to the last kick of the GW...FANTASTIC.

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    1. The Missing Link
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      Well played!!

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      1. The Missing Link
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        We nearly conceded deafeat after none of us owned Jrod and were 5-0 down but the mighty De Bruyne pulled through for us 😀

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        1. Dr Dream
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          great pick..he was rubbish for a couple of games but really came back with a bang.

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  15. Zep
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    Guys, I've updated the spreadsheet, but just updating it again after DvB point...

    Will post again when all scores are confirmed...

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aul0PglyD-ESdFlTNE5fcnEzLUlSWkRCQmY2aUJicVE#gid=39

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    1. Smarty Pants
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      wait a bit, I think leagues haven't updated entirely yet
      I'm missing 1 point

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
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        Oh give over. You win 4-1 and moan about a non-important point.

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
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          (Congrats) ;p

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        2. Smarty Pants
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          🙂
          I know these little changes won't affect our tie, but may be important for some other teams 😉

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      2. Smarty Pants
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        And it has just been added!

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      3. Zep
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        Yeah I'll wait another 30mins or so, just to make sure there will be no more updates...

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  16. Bubz
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    Van Buyten back up to 12 points!

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    1. gart888
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      Doesn't really matter as everyone and their dog had him in their lineup.

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  17. Parm
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    This World Cup just keeps on giving...

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  18. Prime
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    Intense game that was and with a happy ending.

    Belgium world champions BOOOOYYYAAAAAAAHHHH

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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      you reckon lukaku will continue as an impact sub - looked a lot better

      origi was dangerous just lacked the finishing touch

      also hazard is anonymous...kdb is the main man

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  19. joinho
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    Anyone else sticking the armband on James Rodriguez for quarter finals?

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    1. chrisjdgrady
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      Do they play Friday? Definitely will for that game

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    2. Ginkapo FPL
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      Does he play first? Nah it has to be Luiz surely!

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    3. Parm
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      Robben for me, or Messi otherwise.

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  20. Coaly
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    Any advances on the below? Teams I am missing out on in each area? Better options?

    Thinking Kroos is expendable ...

    Cillensen (1m 1m)
    Sakho Van Buyten Zapata Blind (Duarte 1m 1m)
    J Rod Di Maria Cuadrado (Kroos 1.5m 1m 1m)
    Messi Neymar Robben (Van Persie 1m)

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  21. Kostja
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    Hey guys, have we got word on Rojo injury? Also any idea who will fill in for Duartes at CB?

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    1. Beavis
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      Rojo is suspended, no idea about injury.

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    2. crystalpalaceRus
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      rojo is suspended anyway

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    3. chrisjdgrady
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      Rojo suspended

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    4. ItsJonesy
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      No word on Rojo's injury yet but he will be missing the QF due to suspension anyway.

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    5. Kostja
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      Oh right thanks forgot about that

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    6. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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      I think Miller comes in for Duarte

      Rojo is suspended

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  22. Kostja
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    I have seen a spreadsheet of detailed points going around anyone care to share the link?

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  23. crystalpalaceRus
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    Whos a better pick Borges or Bolanas?

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    1. crystalpalaceRus
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      Bolanos

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      1. CellinoArmy
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        I'd get the most defensive one, attacking won't be a common thing for Costa Rica vs Netherlands.

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  24. sinik
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    aaaand I'm a member again..love this site/community, happy to support you guys 🙂

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  25. Werkself
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    Congrats to FFSWC Team Belgium, who turned a close match into a rout at the end. Respect, and good luck.

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    1. Gnu
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      Thanks, As I posted above ,the game was very very close and not reflected by the final result. Hard luck and well played Team Germany.

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      1. Werkself
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        Good H2H match. Who were your final 11?

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        1. Gnu
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          Cillessen
          Zapata Merts DvBuyten Rojo
          Gago Cuadrado Valbeuna JRod(C)
          Mueller Messi

          Few scary moments and rode (my)luck slightly.

          The KdB goal & assist was a bit scary!

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          1. Gnu
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            I take it you didn't have him?

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        2. Werkself
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          I had the template:

          Cillessen
          Rojo, Van Buyten, Cholevas, De Vrij (c)
          JRod, Quadrado, Di Maria, Valbuena
          Messi, Mueller

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          1. Gnu
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            Jeez, very similiar.
            Is your (c) on DeVrij? what did he score?

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            1. Werkself
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              12 (x2)

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          2. Werkself
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            Spaced out and forgot to put the armband on Jrod - only cost me 2 points.

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            1. Gnu
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              those 2 & Zapata v Cholevas - very fine margins.

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              1. Werkself
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                You have Mbolhi on your bench?

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                1. Gnu
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                  Yep, and you?
                  I was so tempted.

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    2. Shipstontrev
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      Thanks for that Werkself, the result flattered us. Your congrats show your true class.

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      1. Werkself
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        I know that the only reason SW6 has gone missing is that he just went "on holiday."

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        1. Shipstontrev
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          He"s gone to put his to eel on the sunlounger. 😉

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  26. Dynamic
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    What do you think to this?

    Cillessen X X
    Fernandez DeVrij Blind Basanta Gamboa X X
    JRod Cuadrado Sneijder DiMaria Tejeda X X X
    Messi Neymar RVP Muller X

    Thanks 🙂

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  27. crystalpalaceRus
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    Hows this?

    Navas
    Blind Fernandez Zapata (De Vrij)
    Cuadrado, Valbuena, JRod, Oscar (KDB)
    Messi, Muller(c) Neymar (Robben)

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    1. Pards Against Humanity
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      Is this FOX?

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      1. crystalpalaceRus
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        McD

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  28. gart888
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    Anyone else tempted to go with 4 dutch defenders, with some argentines and van buyten in reserve?

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    1. BantamPhil
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      Netherlands is the final game I think

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    2. GuyIncognito
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      I don't think there's any need to do that, defenders on conceding and even losing sides have been scoring well.

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  29. NED KELLY
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    Is griezmann to punty?

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    1. NED KELLY
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      I reckon France will beat Germany

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    2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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      it will be very tight this game...high risk but high reward

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    3. GuyIncognito
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      I'm probably going to go for him.

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  30. chrisjdgrady
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    Who comes in for Duarte?

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    1. Dr Dream
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      Do you honestly think anybody actually knows anything about the Costa Rica national team..it could be Donald Duck for all I know.

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      1. chrisjdgrady
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        Thanks

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        1. Dr Dream
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          Sorry it sounded bad..but I doubt anybody really has a clue. Demi maybe..ish..

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    2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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      cubero came on when Duarte got red carded - so maybe him? either way just get Gonzalez or Gamboa - nailed on and probably better than whoever comes in

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      1. chrisjdgrady
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        hmm he's listed as a mid. Prob try to get Gonz in to be safe thx

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    3. Ludo
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      At a guess, Roy Miller, as he played in the England game.

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