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Dugout Discussion November 8

The Dugout Discussion – Liverpool vs Chelsea

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With an international break looming, we need to cherish this weekend’s action. Fortunately, on paper, the Gameweek looks to have plenty to offer us – beginning at Anfield for Liverpool’s clash with Chelsea.

Jose Mourinho’s side draw up on Merseyside sitting on the Premier League summit to find a faltering Liverpool outfit struggling for a foothold.

Brendan Rodgers men have just two wins in their last seven – a run that has prompted Fantasy managers to turn their backs on the men in red: even Raheem Sterling’s star has faded badly in recent weeks.

Sterling will have the opportunity to show his worth, going up against Chelsea’s cast of midfield heavyweights – Eden Hazard, Cesc Fabregas and Oscar. Meanwhile, up front, Fantasy managers will be monitoring Diego Costa’s sharpness. Once an “essential” asset, Costa’s recent injury woes have seen enthusiasm dampened – goals today would quickly reverse that.

The early kick-off is followed by a quartet of matches, before Chelsea’s title rivals, City, pay visit to Loftus Road.

Stick around to discuss the day’s action as it unfolds and keep one eye on our Twitter feed for all the lineup news.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Willis.
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Who's worse at shooting: Hazard or Fabregas?

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    1. Caine & Co.
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      hazard

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    2. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Balotelli

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    3. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Fab doesn't shoot so it's hard to tell.

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    4. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Fabregas is decent at them when you look at his goals for arsenal

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    5. Chris_White
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Fabregas takes a lot of free kicks etc so it's clearly him. Hazard lacks an end product.

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      1. Willis.
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Anybody can strike a mean dead ball. From open play, Fabregas is horrible at shooting.

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      2. Nabs Kebabs
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        what??

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    6. The Mandalorian
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Fab never tells lies.

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    7. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Coutinho

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  2. Make United Great Again
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    This is what Hazard does most games. Involved so much yet 0 points
    Fabregas can be "quiet" and pop up with an assist or 2.

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  3. Surezh06
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    worry for Costa owner who captained him..next foul will fetch him a yellow sadly

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    1. TeamSteam
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      The fact that hes not yet booked is a farse

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  4. The Mandalorian
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Ramires has a future in wrestling after that inch perfect forearm smash.

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    1. Banana Shaqiri - HMD, PUP
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Off the rope?

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  5. Az
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Baines will outscore cahill in the coming weeks right? 🙂

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    1. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

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  6. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    We started off well but Chelsea's power and strength is showing. Balotelli and Can have been impressive. Matic and Cahill too.

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    1. TeamSteam
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      We`ve played into their hands. After they moved their team higher and put pressure we crumble as usual, we needed to swtich up our play and have failed to do so.

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    2. Razz1983
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Balotelli impressive? He's done nothing of note

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  7. Sol
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Do you think Costa will score 2nd half?

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    1. Jax
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      if we saw no then yes if we say yes then no

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  8. Would an idiot do that?
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I ask once again, how long will it be before the flopzard hype dies?

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Is this a real question? Hazard is one of the league's best players and will only get better

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      1. Would an idiot do that?
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I agree he's one of the best penalty takers 😀

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        1. Pigvig
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Baines is better

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          1. TeamSteam
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Hes not. Youre wrong.

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          2. BeachBadger
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            not really. Hazard has 100% record in the league. 17/17 Baines 14/15

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      2. TeamSteam
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Produces too little in fpl terms compared to his actual class

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        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          People used to say the same about Suarez

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          1. xuwei
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Hazard no where near as good as Suarez

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            1. Give The Todd Some Love
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Three years ago, did you honestly think Suarez would turn into the monster he is today? Hazard has the potential to be just as good, although it's impossible to compare them

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              1. isacki: full casual
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                I think it comes down to whether finishing is something you can learn with time (see Welbeck). Put it this way though, Hazard's dribbling, movement and passing is something he was born with.

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          2. isacki: full casual
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            I used to think Suarez couldn't shoot. True fact.

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          3. TeamSteam
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Who ever said that? And Hazard is pretty far off Suarez`s level, FPL and IRL wise.

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            1. Give The Todd Some Love
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Are you joking? Everyone said that!

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              1. TeamSteam
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                "Everyone`s" an idiot, then. Most fpl casuals are.

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            2. isacki: full casual
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Come on, loads of people said that in his first two seasons. Just because it was a long time ago and he came good doesn't mean he wasn't frustrating back then.

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        2. Would an idiot do that?
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Exactly.

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        3. xuwei
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I personally think he's a little over-rated.

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    2. Jax
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      they have west brom home next and a good run of games after that

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    3. johnbarnes
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      If you're talking about Hazard, you don't understand anything about football. Feel free to not own him, but don't come crying when he's 10.8 and you can't afford him.

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      1. Would an idiot do that?
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Cold hard fact is he can't finish. Decent from the pen spot at least

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    4. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Not as long as he is Chelsea's mom over and over

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Hazard's a mother? Bless

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    5. Saint & Reevesy
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      To be fair he's got a decent record.

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    6. rozzo
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I agree, he is a great player but his fantasy points return has been poor so far, why does everyone hype him up he has done absolutely nothing bar the odd penalty or two, lets all hype up Gerrard or 10 shots a match Townsend

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  9. mdm
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Will Can goal stay or will change to an own goal?

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    1. Journeyguy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Was on target so doubt it will be an own goal

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  10. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Chelsea to win 3:1 full time. Hazard and Costa to score in second half

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    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Cheers Daniel

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    2. Jax
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      nah

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    3. johnbarnes
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      any lottery numbers in that crystal ball?

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  11. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    If Costa blanks today then............?

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    1. mipola
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Still keeping.

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    2. Kerz
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      West Brom at the Bridge next though...

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      1. Banana Shaqiri - HMD, PUP
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Then injury during international break

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        1. Make United Great Again
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Shame he hasn't been called up.

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        2. Kerz
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Left out of the squad.

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          1. Jax
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            this.

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    3. Pigvig
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Glad I sold weeks ago

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  12. Damo.
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Balotelli personifies 'useless'. He is of no use to a football team in any way shape or form. He is useless.

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    1. Jax
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      yup.

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    2. rickardinho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Come on, he's been solid this game so far. Good runs deep, decent holdup play (apart from 2 missed passes). A couple of lovely passes to sterling in the channels. Promising

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    3. TeamSteam
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      You are. And your statement. Now go get lost you muppet.

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    4. Saint & Reevesy
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      So not a fan then.

      He's one of those annoying guys who has unbelievable talent combined with terrible mentality

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      1. Damo.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        See this is it. He doesn't want too. I bought it like a sucker. Maybe Rodgers could get him going in a different way but he just can't be arsed.

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      2. The Machine
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Balotelli does not have unbelievable talent sorry

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    5. Damo.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      And the worst thing is that this was apparent after 1 game. .

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    6. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      his run created the space for the first goal

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      1. Damo.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Ah in fairness even Rickie Lambert can do that once in a while. He's crap man.
        They both are 😀

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    7. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      He doesn't make enough runs for me. Terrible off the ball.

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    8. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Useless.

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      1. Jax
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        he doesn't add anything to their team just consistent misses.

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  13. Every Dog Has Its Day
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    WE ARE LOSING 5-0 TO DERBY! WTF. I'M SO DONE.

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    1. Jax
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      weren't derby in the play off final last season? and you only came up? give over.

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      1. Every Dog Has Its Day
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        5-0 Is embarrassing.

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        1. Jax
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          you're still in the playoffs. relax.

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          1. TeamSteam
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Youre not supposed to relax if youre losing 5-0. Its degrating.

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    2. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Derby will go up this year, don't be too down

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  14. A Defender's Nightmare
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    If only Hazard was more clinical! 😐

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  15. rickardinho
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Skrtel has Costa in his back pocket

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  16. davies
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Every time Chelsea concede I think about shipping Courtois - but then I see his fixtures. 😥

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    1. AlCapwnUK
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      better to have outfield chelsea defence IMO. But also hard to find a decent keeper on FPL

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    2. Pigvig
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Eesh. So overpriced for the clean sheets you are getting at the moment

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    3. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I'm done with Chelsea defence regardless of the fixtures. Ivan is out of my team this GW.

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  17. SC not pearls before swine
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Us John Terry owners can't catch a break can we?

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  18. Kalix
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    POP QUIZ - NAME THIS PLAYER:

    At the end of summer one of the England’s most successful football clubs broke club transfer records to reclaim its spot at the top of the Premiership.

    They signed one of the most coveted creative midfielders in the world from Real Madrid.

    Despite his high starting price, the player was an instant hit in FPL. He scored around 50 points in those first 5 games and acquired a million owners in FPL along the way.

    (answer will be posted later)

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    1. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      :shock:zil?

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    2. Kalix
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      sorry should be "around 40 points"

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    3. Riyomorii
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Ozil 😀

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    4. Cluckfuster
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Mesut Ozil

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    5. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Portsmouth with Diarra? 😆

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      1. Banana Shaqiri - HMD, PUP
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Ah - The team that broke the bank 🙁

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        1. BeachBadger
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Shame really. Always like it when a team thinks big. Won the FA Cup and relegated in the same season. Bizarre.

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          1. Banana Shaqiri - HMD, PUP
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Not Bizarre, Redknapp. We thought the good times would keep rolling but we were paying wages we could never afford. I would trade that FA cup for Mid table Premiership any day.

            Ah hindsight.

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    6. Kalix
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Ye were supposed to say Di Maria!! 😆

      Yes it's Ozil 😀

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    7. Banana Shaqiri - HMD, PUP
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      ADM

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      1. Banana Shaqiri - HMD, PUP
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I mean Ozil

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    8. NIGHTHIKER - I Kane, I Shaw…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Ozil I think

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    9. Jax
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      that was 2013

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  19. RyanC
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I think I have a slightly different perspective on Hazard to most.

    For me, he's a season keeper, and he's probably only useful if thought about that way.

    He doesn't get consistent returns, and that's what frustrates most people about him I think. And yet, he's still there near the top midfield scorers in the game.

    I don't think he's a great player to bring in and out of your team. I think he's a player that can hurt you some GWs, but more than making up for it in another GW.

    That's why for me, with Hazard, I committed myself to keeping him for the first ten games of the season before deciding what to do with him.

    So far, looking at the points he's brought in (captaining him on two of his hauls, too), I'm more than happy.

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Agree wholeheartedly

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    2. Kalix
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      not the FPL player he was last year

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    3. Kalix
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      The potential is there for him to be this years Yaya...

      Scores more than he should based on the stats, boosted greatly by penos

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    4. Banana Shaqiri - HMD, PUP
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      He'll be top MID by end of the season.

      Maybe.

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      1. RyanC
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah, I agree!

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    5. johnbarnes
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I've done the exact same thing, (c) him occasionally. I'm happy with him

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    6. Randy_Marsh
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Agree he's actually playing much better now, seems to take an age to get going. I had Fabregas and then on my WC about 5 weeks ago got Haz in @ 9.9 incredible value.

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    7. A Defender's Nightmare
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      If he improves his finishing he is the best player in PL for me.

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      1. RyanC
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Indeed!

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    8. RÏɠBY
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      what is this level headed thinking doing here 😉

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    9. Goodfella
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      You're living in the past, last season Mourinho focused everything on Hazard, Hazard WAS the Chelsea attack, now everything is coming off and going through Costa. Hazard is no longer the Chelsea player to have, I'd rather have Costa or Fabregas over him.

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      1. RyanC
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        This time last season, Hazard had three goals and one assist.

        After ten games this season, he has three goals and one assist, and his overall stats ar better.

        Just a thought.

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  20. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone fancy mocking up a pokemon battle between Skrtl and Costa?

    I reckon Pansear would make a good Costa

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    1. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      SKrtl is obvious 😆

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  21. Captain Shirokov
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Be typical now if Fab ends up outscoring Hazard again 🙄

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Hazard doesn't deserve points for hitting ever shot at Johnson.

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        He's been so much better than Fan so far.

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  22. Chambo
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I thought Can's shot was going wide, apparently not according to fpl

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    1. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      It was

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    2. mdm
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I think they will change it

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      If it's not officially changed then it won't be on FPL either

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    4. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      FPL can change stuff so nobody will be counting chickens

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    5. rickardinho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      haha, my h2h opponent has cahill whilst i have sterling... in that sense it doesn't make a difference really. though i'd prefer if it didn't change

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    6. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Cahill OG would make me feel slightly better about selling him.

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  23. Randy_Marsh
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Liverpool giving Chelsea chance after chance, ticking time bomb

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    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Chelsea are giving Liverpool chances too

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  24. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Has no one noticed that Hazard has to play in front of the diabolical Ivanovic who has decided that he is most effective by defending in the opponents penalty box....

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    1. Pigvig
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      ...plays behind ....

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  25. Beavis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Old Trafford here I come!

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    1. Jax
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      enjoy the 0-0

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      1. Jax
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        🙂

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Nice, enjoy it!. Cheer on Di Maria for me 🙂

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    3. sweensa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Enjoy the match Beavis. Hope ADM does the business

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  26. rohan
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrruGafaYjI

    Hazard needs to do that more often

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  27. johnbarnes
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Gianfranco Zola is one tiny man. Would love to see him play in this Chelsea team, such a class player.

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  28. ronty
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Lovren makes Kolo look like Baresi.

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  29. rickardinho
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Scholes: "he's well within his right to move sterling out of the way"... sure, as long as he doesn't PUNCH HIM IN THE JAW in doing so!!!

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    1. Nabs Kebabs
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      punch with open hand?

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    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      He didn't punch him

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    3. Pigvig
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Typical scholes "tackle"

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  30. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    As a Costa owner, I'm getting fed up, kept him through these stupid injuries which was a mistake, how many times can we say 'he's got QPR next or WBA next, it doesn't matter, if he's not scoring, he doesn't justify his price tag, Costa out

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    1. Owd Big 'Ed
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Lol, calm down.

      He will score goals. Believe.

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      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Not angry mate, just a logical point of view, he's not on form and for that price, you expect more, simples

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    2. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Wait until the match is over

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