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Fantasy Premier League – Player List Analysis – Budget Defenders

Following the launch of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game on Thursday morning, we’ve been busy assessing the player list to guide you through the options available for your initial 15-man squads. Having analysed the goalkeepers in our first article yesterday, we now turn our attentions to the defenders, beginning with the cut-price options.

Before we delve into what’s on offer, it’s worth bearing in mind a handful of new changes to the BPS system revealed on Thursday which will affect defenders. As discussed in Thursday’s article, a decrease in the BPS for pass completion should prove detrimental to defenders within teams that dominate possession and therefore have little trouble amassing 30 passes or more. As an example, the likes of Per Mertesacker, Laurent Koscielny and John Terry all broke 30 passes per match and registered a pass completion rate around the 89% mark.

It’s fair to say that rule change doesn’t affect the budget options nearly as much, given most are likely to play for teams who will play second fiddle for possession for the majority of the season.

On the upside, an alteration to the treatment of Clearances, Blocks and Interceptions (CBI) should boost the bonus point prospects of dominant central defenders in the season ahead. Essentially, a player needed to make three clearances, blocks or interceptions to earn a point towards BPS last season but now needs to make just two. Furthermore, players are now rewarded two BPS points for every net successful tackle this time around – double last season’s one point.

With that in mind, let’s cast an eye over the chief budget protagonists..

Having conceded 57 goals last season – the third worst defensive record last season – Aston Villa’s defensive assets are all priced at 4.5 and below, apart from Leandro Bacuna (5.0), who has been reclassified as a defender after being fielded as a right-back under Tim Sherwood. Kieran Richardson has also been listed as a defender this time around and comes in 0.5 less than the Dutchman, though managed just one assist last season.

With Ron Vlaar unlikely to sign a new contract at Villa Park, new signing Micah Richards could prove the pick of the Villa rearguard, although he looks set to feature at centre-back, with Alan Hutton battling Bacuna for the right-back berth. The likes of Philippe Senderos and Nathan Baker come in at 4.0 apiece but look unlikely to nail down a starting role, with Jores Okore and Ciaran Clark vying for the central spot alongside Richards. Amongst Villa defenders last season, Clark made the most CBI (277), whilst Hutton produced the most successful tackles (41) – a pattern that fits in with the idea that centre-halves will benefit more from the CBI change, whilst full-backs should be the winners for successful tackles.

Villa dovetail with Midlands rivals West Brom over the coming season, though in terms of defenders, only Jonas Olsson and Sebastian Pocognoli are available for 4.5. Bearing in mind they managed five and zero starts under Tony Pulis, they are unlikely targets for our squad.

All of Premier League new boys Bournemouth’s backline come in at 4.5 in FPL other than Adam Smith, who is 0.5 cheaper, but likely to only provide back-up at the south coast club. The choice for Fantasy managers looks to come between new club-record signing Tyrone Mings, who registered a goal and four assists for Ipswich last season, and should start at left-back, or, on the opposition flank, Simon Francis, who netted once and grabbed six assists last term. Sylvain Distin has joined from Everton and could partner club captain Tommy Elphick, which would mean Steve Cook, who scored five goals last season, finds himself on the periphery.

Looking back to last season in the top-flight, Burnley’s Jason Shackell produced 549 CBI – put into perspective, that was 76 more than all but one other defender, Swansea’s Ashley Williams. Clearly then, it will be worth monitoring the new boys’ options in the heart of their respective back-fours to ascertain the likeliest beneficiaries.

For those who are keen to rotate a Bournemouth defender given their favourable opening home fixtures (AVL, LEI, SUN, WAT), the Cherries, who registered 19 shut-outs last season, are paired with Watford over the 38 Gameweeks.

The Hornets only kept 15 clean sheets last season, so for some, carrying two defenders from newly-promoted teams could be considered something of a risk. For those who are considering this pairing, though, centre-back Sebastian Prodl, who joins from Werder Bremen after scoring three times in 19 starts for the German side during the 2014/15 campaign, looks the primary target.

The Austrian international, who carries a 4.5 price tag, looks a near certain starter, and has a slight edge over Gabriele Angella, who possesses a similar threat from set-pieces, having produced nine goals over the Hornets previous two campaigns, but looks less certain of his place in new boss Quique Sanchez Flores’ preferred starting XI. At this stage it appears unlikely that any of the defenders priced at 4.0 could be relied upon as regular starters, with Juan Carlos Paredes and new left-back Jose Holebas also at 4.5. With the centre-halves looking favourites due to CBI changes here, investment in Angella or the imposing Prodl could prove the best bet.

After keeping only two clean sheets in 18 matches under Alan Pardew, Crystal Palace defenders may not be very high on our pre-season shopping lists. We should have some Eagles regulars available at 4.5 in FPL, though, with full-back Joel Ward looking the most nailed on budget option, having made 37 starts last term. He has only managed one goal and three assists over the last two seasons, however, so attacking points could be at a premium. It’s worth noting that Ward won more tackles (80) than any defender in the league last season and should be a main benficiary from the above-mentioned BPS change.

Martin Kelly, Damien Delaney, Pape Souare and Brede Hangeland all come in at the same price as Ward, and after strong performances in Palace’s victories in their final two matches of last season against Liverpool and Swansea, it could be the Senegal international who establishes himself as the first-choice left-back and moves onto our radars. Delaney was Palace’s top defender for both CBI (322) and minutes per CBI (eight) over the previous campaign and could prove decent value in the heart of the back-four should he nail down a starting berth again.

Palace offer a perfect home and away rotation with Stoke over the course of the season, and perhaps surprisingly, we will also have some Potters starters available in the budget price bracket. Geoff Cameron, Phil Bardsley, Marc Wilson, Marc Muniesa and Philipp Wollscheid all set you back 4.5 in FPL, but with Mark Hughes reshuffling the back four regularly last season, it’s currently difficult to judge who will sit alongside skipper Ryan Shawcross in the back four.

Muniesa started the final three matches of last season at centre-back and could get the nod, while Cameron and Bardsley look set to battle it out for the right-back berth along with expected new signing Glen Johnson. The imminent departure of Asmir Begovic looks set to hand Jack Butland or Jakob Haugaard the number one jersey, though, and at 4.5 apiece, there are options between the posts for the Potters, too. Fantasy managers will be hoping the pre-season matches provide some clues to Hughes’ preferred starting line-up for the home clash with Liverpool in the opening Gameweek.

Leighton Baines is not travelling with his Everton team-mates for the pre-season trip to Singapore, with the 30-year-old England international still recovering from ankle surgery. That could see either Luke Garbutt or Brendan Galloway, both priced at 4.5 in FPL, deputise for the opening few weeks if Baines fails to recover in time, although the Toffees tough schedule after the opening day home encounter with Watford limits their appeal as short-term prospects.

The Leicester defence provided Fantasy managers with great value through the latter part of last season, with the Foxes clocking up five clean sheets in their final seven matches. Wes Morgan averaged six points per appearance over the Foxes final 11 fixtures last season, grabbing two goals and two assists, and looks a great option at 4.5, although Robert Huth, signed on a permanent deal from Stoke this summer, could rival the Leicester skipper for popularity. The Germany international tied with Morgan for goal attempts from inside the box (seven) over the final six Gameweeks last season, leading all defenders. Kasper Schmeichel’s save point potential between the sticks could sway some to lean towards the Dane, however, with Leicester offering a home/away rotation with Swansea for 38 Gameweeks.

Morgan was sixth overall for CBI (409) last term, though Huth’s average was quicker (one every 7.27 minutes compared to 8.45), suggesting the German could profit more with a security of starts at the King Power.

Like last season, all of Newcastle’s backline bar Daryl Janmaat are available for 4.5 or less in FPL. Fabricio Coloccini looks the safest route after chalking up a reasonable nine bonus points last season, while Steven Taylor, valued at 4.0, will jump onto our radars if he forces his way into new boss Steve McClaren’s plans after recovering from a ruptured achilles tendon.

Perhaps surprisingly, Taylor’s minutes per CBI (9.6) was quicker than any defensive team-mate, with Coloccini only fourth quickest (11.06 minutes) amongst their backline options.

The Magpies dovetail perfectly with north East rivals Sunderland over the 38 Gameweeks, so a rotation partnership of Coloccini and John O’Shea, for example, would set you back just 9.0. Elsewhere at the Stadium of Light, Sebastian Coates, signed on a permanent deal from Liverpool earlier this month, was a crucial part of Sunderland’s renaissance under Dick Advocaat, with the Black Cats keeping three clean sheets in their final four matches last term, and could rival O’Shea as the strongest option.

Billy Jones established himself as the first-choice right back under the former Rangers boss, but Adam Matthews, signed from Celtic, will compete with the former West Brom man for a starting berth. Matthews served up two goals and 12 assists in the last couple of years at Parkhead and comes in cheaper than fellow full-back Patrick van Aanholt, though some may still prefer to draft in Costel Pantilimon at 5.0, due to the new change in BPS rules which benefit his save point potential.

In terms of CBI, though, Coates’ average of 8.99 was some way quicker than Brown (11) and O’Shea (12.06), which could boost the Uruguayan’s prospects via Bonus Points.

Revisiting the promoted sides prospects, Norwich’s defenders look nicely priced ahead of the new campaign.

Martin Olsson and Sebastian Bassong appear to have the most upside, although the former could miss the start of the season after undergoing shoulder surgery this summer. Bassong looks a sure starter at centre-back and can provide a threat from set-pieces, scoring three goals and bagging two assists during the 2012/13 campaign, although he did fail to produce attacking returns in the following season, when the Canaries were relegated. John Ruddy’s save point potential may be difficult to ignore between the sticks here.

Southampton rotate with Norwich over the course of the season, though it seems unlikely that Maya Yoshida or Cuco Martina (4.5) will nail down a regular role. Ronald Koeman is likely to acquire a high calibre centre-half after failing to bring Toby Alderweireld back to St. Mary’s. Left-back Matt Targett could be a bargain short-term prospect at 4.0, with Ryan Bertrand set to miss the start of the campaign with a knee injury – that depends on whether Koeman deploys the versatile Martina in this role.

Similarly, Spurs and Swansea look unlikely to provide us with any regular starters at 4.5 or less, with the likes of Ben Davies and Angel Rangel behind Danny Rose and Kyle Naughton respectively in the pecking order.

The same could be said over at West Ham. James Collins, a firm favourite under Sam Allardyce, seems unlikely to feature as much this time around, given that Juventus centre-back Angelo Ogbonna signed on at Upton Park yesterday. A new right-back could also be high on Slaven Bilic’s wishlist, so Joey O’Brien will probably only provide cover under the Croatian. Youngsters Reece Burke and Reece Oxford, both priced at 4.0 in FPL, could be worth monitoring, particularly the latter, who lined up in centre midfield in the Europa League first round first leg clash against FC Lusitans last week.

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  1. Thomass
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Rate this lot?

    #PROTEAFIRE - THOMASS DM10
    RMT Please!

    Schmeichel / (Hamer)

    Cédric / Kosc / Morgan / JT / Davies

    Hazard / Hendo / Walcott / Mane / Ki

    Deeney / Sakho / Costa

    £0.5million ITB.

    Thanks..........

    1. Thomass
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Ignore the Username!

    2. MagnetBPS
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      6.5/10, weak attack b/c of you putting too much money in the back. Having Walcott is so risky since he isn't guranteed a start like Ozil/Cazorla

  2. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Transfer round up from today?

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Schweinsteiger

    2. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Schweiny!!!!!!!!

      And some other random junk.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Schwein confirmed! Germans are classy. Wish him well

        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Yes indeed, flabbergasted.

          Aside from that I think Darmian was announced, Watford signed Behrami, Casillas to Porto but Real are bidding for Kiko Casilla, Wijnaldum to Newcastle. I'm sure I've missed some stuff.

    3. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Wijnaldum

    4. jurgenizer | TRIPEIROS
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Casillas to FCPorto 😎

  3. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    I know ya all have been holding your breath

    First Draft

    Schmeichel/Rudd

    Azpilicueta/Rose/Cédric/Oxford/Targett

    Hazard/Yaya Touré/Walcott/Cabaye/Anya

    Costa/Kane/Sakho

  4. Arsenals Number 19. Santi C…
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Best keeper to rotate with Ruddy other than Southampton keeper ?

    1. Theatre_Of_Screams
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Panti

    2. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Anyone with a good GW6, by the looks of it. That's some tasty fixtures Norwich have right out of the traps.

      1. Arsenals Number 19. Santi C…
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Seems so can see him racking up save points

        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah, that too. It's not my usual way, but I can see the appeal of a Rudd/Ruddy double up.

          1. Birds of Prey
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Rudd/Ruddy sounds awful, if one wishes to have the same-team-keeper-double, you need a top tier duo--at least until they cancel road games for Norwich. GL

            1. Captain Peacock
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              They would make a fair few save points, remember Burnley last year with Heaton being the second highest goalkeeper scorer (thanks in part to injuries to Foster and Forster).

              I might end up using the double up with WBA.

            2. Reedy
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              haha. Yeah I guess. I wouldn't even be considering it if I wasn't having such a hard job fitting in the heavy-hitters.

      2. Arsenals Number 19. Santi C…
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Krul will do nicely by the looks of it mate

        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          That he would. Watford keeper too, perhaps

          1. Birds of Prey
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            I think Norwich has a sort of 3-way rotation with NEW and SUN.

  5. KeepCalm
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    R- R
    Ivan - Lescott - Richards - O'shea - S.taylor
    Ozil/Ramsey - Depay/Mata - Yaya - Hendo - Coq
    Costa - Tekkers - Sakho

    And I got 3.5 itb to get a special someone

    What do you lot think??

    1. Theatre_Of_Screams
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Anya for Coq. Coq never gets assists or goals

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        And this. Denies you the opportunity to get 3 good arsenal prospects

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I'd like this if Richards was Morgan

  6. Heytch
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Interesting. Just noticed ash Westwood Is paying for his goalless season by dropping to 4.5.

    He's far less defensive central man than most of the 4.5 players. Classy player on his day

    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Good spot. Perhaps Wanyama isn't the automatic pick at that price-point.

    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I like Bentaleb in that bracket too. Gonna have a big season i reckon

    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Villa without Delph and maybe Benteke too... I'm avoiding like the plague. (He is a reasonable alternative to Wanyama though.)

    4. Jay Jay Okocha
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Fletcher doesn't eat up a Spurs/Saints roster spot

      1. Heytch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Another good option
        Just thought Westwood was the least "deep lying" of all of them and cleverly gone will see him back up to 3000+ minutes

  7. Thomass
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    What do ya think of this lot guys??

    Schmeichel / (Hamer)

    Cédric / Kosc / Morgan / JT / Davies

    Hazard / Hendo / Walcott / Mane / Ki

    Deeney / Sakho / Costa

    £0.5million ITB.

    Thanks..........

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      JT to Ivan
      Ki to 4.5
      Mane to Mata

      1. Thomass
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Is Mane not a good option?

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Mata is a better option

  8. ManchesterReds
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    2nd draft

    Changed Cedric, Baker, Mings, Yaya, Obiang, Kermorgant for Williams, Francis, Lescott, Siggy, Wanyama and Wilson

    team now looks like this

    Ruddy
    Azpilicueta, Francis, Koscielny
    Ramsey, Depay, Fàbregas, Siggy
    Costa (vc), Rooney (c), Wilson

    Subs: Rudd, Lescott, Wanyama, Williams

    1. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I think this year you need 2 keepers that score due to bench boost chip.

      Unless you planning on using that after one of wildcards and moving to a 2 keeper solution. You're at risk of Rudd dropping to 3.9 and the 4.5s all going up which is bad for outfield moves

      1. ManchesterReds
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I am struggling. My team hits exactly 100m but I do quite like it.!

        The only thing I can see is to change Wilson to Agbonlahor...
        Then update Rudd to a 4.5..

        Good choice?

        1. Heytch
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Koscielny to Mert or Clyne might be better. As is always the case you will wish you didn't have 2x 6+ defenders during and after GW1 😆

          1. ManchesterReds
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Mangala?

  9. Venom Snake
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Helllooooooooooooo FFS!

    What's the deal with Aguero, any news?

    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Nada

  10. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Is there much point nailing the name of the third striker spot ?...It's an absolute golden position for FPL that can accrue as many pts as the best striker in the game if we get it right...

    Last seasons "cheap striker" pick went something like

    Naismith > Austin > Sakho > Berahino > Kane......Not sure if I got those in the right order but I bet the combination gave Aguero a run for his money for FPL pts for those who called it right.

    "cheap" should actually be the 3rd striker pick...and we won't know that until we see who best emerges.

    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Ha, that's a good point actually. Probably not worth the headache really, it'll all change soon enough. I have Vydra right now as a placeholder...not even sure if he's a starter yet.

      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Murray is a good pick too, been overlooked on here thus far

        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Oh I'm a big fan of Murray...was a little put off by his reduced gametime at the end of last season though, and he's a full 1m dearer. But he remains on the radar.

          1. Bolivian Seaman
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Who is he rotating with? Chamakh?

            1. Reedy
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              I think so, yeah. Of all the strikers to lose your spot to!

        2. Ruth_NZ
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Not for me. A big lump with little talent and better suited to the Championship or League 1. I doubt he'll get more than the odd game anyway.

      2. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        and you could add Kane > Vardy to the end of that chain..and a few brave souls on here did that last season, and did well from it.

        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          True (I wasn't one of them I'm afraid). But I did have Ulloa and Murray - also important links in the chain 🙂

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Neither was I...I did call the Murray one right though.

    2. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      It's important no doubt. Can Juanmi get as many points as an out and out striker?

    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Great post. Yep, there's the 4th mid and 3rd striker spots which I generally use to take a punt on favourable fixtures.

    4. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Mate, no-one called that right, it's a mirage.

      Mostly people got them in after most of the points had already been scored, did the same sequence chasing points and got little out of it but wasted transfers until Kane came along and rescued them.

      Punting around with those kinds of player is an utter waste of time.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        ? ...lots of people had those...and timed it well.

        1. Ruth_NZ
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I don't believe it. Show me some evidence.

          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Austin worked for a lot of people including myself but I agree, the others were very hit and miss bar Kane

          2. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Ok...you win...Nobody ever got any pts from Naismith, Austin, Sakho, Berahino, Kane or Vardy...Everybody picked them after they scored their pts.

            1. Ruth_NZ
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Vardy was different, people brought him in for a DGW and that was late in the season.

              Kane was the one that rescued the points chasers, as I said.

              But the early season ones mentioned - Naismith, Ulloa, Berahino and so on... nah. Mostly brought in after the event. Plus what about all the failures that were punted on only to sink abysmally - Bojan, Defoe, even Welbeck? Useless.

              Either get a decent 3rd striker (Sakho), play them every week and play 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 or get a cheap 3rd striker (Jerome), bench them every week and play 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. Thinking that you can miraculously get the sequence right switching between Wilson, Deeney, Bojan, Vardy, Naismith, Juanmi and Joselu at exactly the right times is nothing more than self-deception.

      2. Reedy
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        That's not true. Some will have fallen into that trap for sure, but we weren't all chasing points, some of us got on each at the right time (most of the time).

        1. Ruth_NZ
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I don't believe it. Evidence?

          1. Reedy
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            I don't have any. Where's your evidence that it didn't work?

            Nevermind that' it's childish. But if you're saying that it isn't an easily repeatable strategy then maybe you have a point. Maybe last season we were just lucky (whether you believe us or not).

            It's looking tricky to fit in all of the prime mids we will likely want this season without taking a budget option up front though. We might not even have to play them too often.

            1. Ruth_NZ
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              I don't need evidence not to believe something. Just a bullometer. The onus is on the person making the statement to justify it (if they choose to do so).

              But that being said, the chances of someone getting that sequence right is so negligible as to be impossible. It would have meant dumping a player just after a run of goals to switch to another who hadn't scored for quite a while. That would take immense skill and would also be psychologically very difficult to do. Therefore by definition most who were on that train were chasing last week's points until Kane came and rescued them. That's my logic.

              1. Reedy
                • 13 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                Well, I don't think anyone got it exactly right - I'm not claiming they did. Just right often enough to justify the tactic. My memory is hazy but I'm pretty fixtures-oriented, especially for budget strikers - so perhaps that helped me offload them even after previous success. The downturn in fixtures can be a powerful motivator.

                But I recognise that it might not be easy to pull off...like anything it's a gamble.

  11. Thomass
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Bye

  12. Twisted Saltergater
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Is everyone going to have Valdez if De Gea leaves Utd? I can't see a GK rotation at 9m that is preferable to Valdez + 4.0m. The best rotations seem to be at 9.5m and that's too pricey, imo.

    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      As tempting as that would be (and it would be!), I'd always rather have 15 playing players. If we also end up with a 4m playing keeper then it's a no-brainer of course.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Well, we have a WC to use within the first 19 GW's, so it's not like we'd be wasting a FT on a keeper.

        Actually, talking of which, I think we should be looking a lot shorter term on rotations pairings. Realistically, it may be GW's 4-8 when the majority WC, so it may be sensible to max out potential points during that period then get your rotations in place for the middle part of the season.

        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I'm with you on not looking too far ahead...I'm usually an early wildcarder. But knowing my luck, if I ran with one keeper he'd get injured GW1.

          I think that's a good point Chelsea Harbour brings up too - wasn't even thinking about that.

    2. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      As I just mentioned in a RMT above
      I think this year you need 2 keepers that score due to bench boost chip.

      Unless you planning on using that after one of wildcards and moving to a 2 keeper solution.
      I'll be using it when both my keepers favourd for clean sheets on same week

      1. Ruth_NZ
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        You only need 2 GKs when you are about to play that chip.

        Seeing that I won't be playing it until a DGW I'm not that worried about it now. 🙂

        1. Heytch
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Fair enough
          My mini league has a money back for manager of the week in round 1 so I could be using that one early!

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Yep, we have 2 x WC's (although 1 in the latter half of the season), and FT's to prepare for using a chip. I don't think I'll let that limit me when starting off with only 100m.

        1. Heytch
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah only issue for you then is that every form or decent 4.5 keeper will be 4.6+ when you want them and what a waste. Don't want keeper moves when they not even playing every week messing with your bank our outfield potential purchases

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Not quite sure I follow? If Valdez at 5m became injured and my backup was a non-playing 4m keeper, then I'd have a budget of 5m on a replacement.

            1. Heytch
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              I'm talking about when you turn your 4.0 guy (who could end up 3.9) into a 4.6+ at wildcard dgw time

              Annoying use of budget

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                gotcha. Needs a bit of luck though ... I'm sure there'll be lots of managers jumping off 4.5m GK's too.

    3. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Isn't Valdes going to Turkey?

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Not heard anything, captain. Tbh, I thought he was brought in last season to eventually replace De Gea when he leaves for Real Madrid.

  13. Mull
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    R&R shouldn't be a thing.

    1. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      R and R ?

      1. Mull
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Ruddy and Rudd. 😆

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Ah right....Are they good enough enough to get save pts and a smattering of CS 's ?..I'm finding it hard to see past Panti...

  14. MagnetBPS
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Who is better Benteke or Higuain, and why?

    1. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Benteke scoring in what has been a poor team for most of the past three years edges it for me.

  15. Patty
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Got no idea where to start with defence. Any tips?

    1. Norco
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Chelsea + a two or three rotation and a cheap 4.5 as the 4.0 range aren't nailed at the moment

    2. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Clyne and/or Mert and 4.5 to your heart's content

      1. Norco
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Or Ivan / Terry and Cedric

  16. Norco
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    How's your team dispersion looking like?

    Norwich / Stoke
    Chelsea Southampton Leicester Sunderland Bournemouth
    Chelsea Man Utd Arsenal Liverpool Southampton
    Chelsea Arsenal Bournemouth

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      No Man City coverage

      1. Norco
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        That's one of my worries. Only way I can do it is give Yaya the mid spot over an Arsenal player.

        Comes down to Yaya vs Ramsey vs Ozil

        1. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Hmmm tough call, Ramsey could be worth the gamble though, he's usually quite selfish with lots of shots. my front 7 are Ritchie, Ramsey, Hazard, Depay, Aguero, Giroud, Sakho.

          1. Norco
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Interesting... What's your defence like to afford that front seven?

            1. Salah’s Sonnet
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Huth, Vlaar, Azpilicueta, O'Shea and Francis 🙂

              Quite happy with it all, for now haha!

              1. Norco
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                Not too bad with some nice rotation.

                I had Azpi also but moved to Ivan which is a bit of an expense.

                1. Salah’s Sonnet
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 9 months ago

                  Cheers man, yeah i would like Ivan over Azpi if i'm being honest, may downgrade Ritchie to accommodate him and just wing the 4th mid.

  17. LeedsUnited21
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    How does Azpilicuet Morgan O'Shea Mings and Alderweireld look

    1. MagnetBPS
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Terrible, mine is way better, Cedric Francis Mertesacker Taylor Williams + Courtouis

      1. Norco
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I've currently got Ivan Cedric Morgan Francis O'Shea

      2. LeedsUnited21
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        why is this so much better

        1. MagnetBPS
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          You dont have arsenal def, sunderland.have one of the worst def in the league, avoid totenham def and Francis>Mings

      3. LeedsUnited21
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        who is taylor from?

        1. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          oh dear...

          1. LeedsUnited21
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            newcastle?

            1. MagnetBPS
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Saylor

          2. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Reasonable question, it could be Naylor or Saylor.

        2. Birds of Prey
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Steven Taylor is Newcastle Targett looks like a better pt bet currently until Bertrand healthy.

  18. Ryan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Is Hennessey the best 4m GKer option if you only want to start with 1GKer?

    1. LeedsUnited21
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      yes

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      You want someone who sits under a 4.5 keeper with injury history. Like Hamer, or Rudd.

  19. GreennRed
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone trying Christian Atsu ?

    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Can we guarantee he'll start?

      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        We cannot, will kniw better close to KO. Looks a decent prospect.

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      He'll probably have a settling in period, whereas Ritchie won't as he's familiar.

      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Yip. But for 0.5 more. Might have to get Grealish or Wes, neither great options.

  20. Twisted Saltergater
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Imagine having to play a Norwich defender in your starting 11 EVERY week.

    😉

    1. LeedsUnited21
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      id cream myself

    2. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      But those fixtures...remember what the lowly Leicester did at the end of last season with a similarly purple patch? That was at the other end of the season I suppose. But there's hope!

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Leicester found a solid 541 / 523 that worked great with the personnel they have (Huth made a big difference, imo). I'm not sure Norwich have the quality.

        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Perhaps the Leicester case was exceptional. But if Norwich do half as well it could be a viable money-saving strategy. Then again, maybe not...

  21. LeedsUnited21
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Courtois Hennessey

    Taylor Cedric Mertesaker Francis Williams

    Hazard Depay Henderson Silva Waynama

    Costa Deeney Benteke

    How is this looking hehe

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I like it a lot. Which Taylor is it though?

      1. LeedsUnited21
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        the newcastle one... is that good or bad?

        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          He's 4m for a reason 😉

          1. LeedsUnited21
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            who would u suggest for 4.0 then hahaa

            1. GreennRed
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              No-one at this point.

  22. Koflok
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this bunch?

    Myhill Hamer
    Azpi Merte Cedric Francis 4m
    Hazard Ozil Mane Yaya 4.5m
    Rooney Tekkers Sakho

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I like everything except Yaya. I'd downgrade him and upgrade one of the strikers.

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Can someone defend all the Francis selections without rotating him?

        1. Koflok
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          In this pick I doubt I will even use him much. But yes he's gonna be rotatable if I use him.

      2. Koflok
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        It's a wait and see. If Aguero is out for the first few, Yaya is my punt

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Just putting this out there, but Myhill + Azpi or Courtois + Lescott?

      While Myhill will earn save points, there is the prospect of Foster coming back, plus some will question how nailed on Azpilicueta will be this season.

      You also have the option of benching Lescott.

      I'd automatically go for your pairing because of save points, but I'm not sure it's the best option thinking about it.

      1. Koflok
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Good point.

        I will WC early anyway so I reckon Myhill is save until then. Foster is back mid Oct anywah

        If Azpi not nailed on then I'll defo use your combo. I reckon he will be nailed on tho.

        But yes, Lescott is good rotation wirh Francis too so it's nice.

  23. Puyol Pants Up
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    How will Sidwell's game time for Stoke be like this season?

    1. Nickofoz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Don't see why it would be different to last season. He's old and past it

  24. Captain Peacock
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Hi Guys, little help needed:

    A. Ivanovic and Mane
    B. Ashley Williams and Silva

    1. LeedsUnited21
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      B i think. Silva is a good shout this year

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      A, comfortably

    3. Birds of Prey
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Gotta say A.

    4. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Too close to call, imo.

    5. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I know ridiculously short-sighted but given chance of early wildcarding, Williams just a name you won't want to look at, at seasons start with "che" alongside

      1. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Fair call. I'm planning to save my wildcard but I could always get Williams later.

    6. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      B I think. I like Mane a lot and if it were any other mid...but I think we're going to need Silva.

      Also, I didn't have much fun starting last season with three Chelsea defenders. Admittedly Ivanovic wasn't one, but I'm not convinced that him scoring early in the season is a repeating pattern; just coincidence if you ask me.

      1. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Entirely possible. It's more that he's just a fire and forget. Mourinho loves him so he starts practically every game, Chelsea can get CS in any fixture and the attacking points are just a bonus.

        It's a tough decision and maybe I'll drop Payet for Silva instead. Need to find more savings though...

    7. Nickofoz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Hm I think Williams could be a decent option this year, although there are other 5.0's to consider - Sakho, Cedric etc.

      So B for me.

      1. Ruth_NZ
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Williams is underpriced, no doubt of it. Shawcross and Lescott also excellent value at 5.0.

        1. Captain Peacock
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Do Stoke City have any defensive solidity anymore?

          I prefer my WBA investment in keepers because they still give up plenty of SoT. I still remember the game against City last year where they had an inhuman number of shots, generated huge save points for Myhill.

          1. Ruth_NZ
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Yes, they do. Stoke conceded relatively few goals last season. Unfortunately for FPL purposes they often conceded 1 in a game and thus didn't get many clean sheets. But that doesn't mean the same will happen this season.

      2. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers Nick. I like Williams a lot but now wondering whether I can get him a few games in.

    8. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks for the responses, everyone.

  25. Bolivian Seaman
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    I've just thought of a brilliant rotation. Callum Wilson(5.5) and Abdi(5). Abdi is the creator for watford. Rotate those two you get AVL WBA SOT LEI SWA SUN CPL etc.

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Don't rotate attackers. Repeat after me: Don't. Rotate. Attackers.

      1. LeedsUnited21
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        lol

      2. Bolivian Seaman
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        It's just what a Watford fan said that got me thinking. She said that they won't keep many cleansheets. These new teams aren't playing for defence.

        1. Captain Peacock
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Lukaku (c) week 1!

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Don't rotate attackers. I've had Siggy and Michu benched for GW1 hauls.

    3. Birds of Prey
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      rotating promoted defenders only makes sense for the keepers who p-up pts. for saves. IMO
      10.5? That's Clyne/ Cresswell/ Fonte/rose and

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        for 10.5 give me Alderw and Bellerin. rotating

        1. Bolivian Seaman
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Debuchy will be first choice

          1. Birds of Prey
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Doubt it, but either way they are a better 5.5 than Callum Wilson and can go Mert also at 5.5.

    4. MagnetBPS
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Bad idea, seems that you are new to FPL

      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks, very kind

  26. LeedsUnited21
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Would u Pefer

    A. Courtois Hennessey Willams Mert Francis Taylor Cedric

    B Mingolet Hennessey Willams Mert Francis Cedric Morgan

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Next time don't include the common players. Easier to read.

      So effectively it's Courtois and Taylor (which one?) vs Migs and Morgan.

      I reckon the second.

  27. DrunkPhilosophy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Hey everyone!
    It's good to be back, wishing everyone a very good season!

    First draft of many, what do you guys think?

    Panti / Schmiachel
    Darmian (If 5.5) / Ivanovic / Cedric / Kelly / Hutton
    Hazard / Richie / Punch / Depay / Wayanama
    Augero / Giroud / Ayoze

    I realised having Augero, Hazard and Ivan weakens the rest of my time but my plan is to go with guaranteed heavy hitters because I wanna WC early this year.

    What do you guys think?

  28. Venom Snake
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Will Rooney be playing up front this season or what

    1. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      The debate is ongoing. Most think United will buy a new forward, so wait and see

    2. MagnetBPS
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Our main striker this season unless we buy a striker. Last season he played as defensive mid because of Carrick's injury and no one to back him up. This season is different.

    3. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Yes.

      LvG said that is his best position. There is no room in midfield with Carrick fit and Schweiny arriving anyway. LvG also said he has enough strikers(yup!)

      1. Exilizer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        utd need a midfield without Carrick....

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          He's been one of their best players in recent seasons.

          1. Exilizer
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Which is exactly why LVG signed Schweinsteiger.

            Either he replaces Carrick completely or frees Carrick up for more offensive duties.

  29. The_Socca_Philosopha
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Huth or Morgan?

    1. LeedsUnited21
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      morgan

  30. Nickofoz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Morning. How are we all?

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Well thanks Nick, and you?

      1. Nickofoz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Good thanks. Cheeky name change? 😀