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Fantasy Premier League – Player List Analysis – Budget Defenders

Following the launch of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game on Thursday morning, we’ve been busy assessing the player list to guide you through the options available for your initial 15-man squads. Having analysed the goalkeepers in our first article yesterday, we now turn our attentions to the defenders, beginning with the cut-price options.

Before we delve into what’s on offer, it’s worth bearing in mind a handful of new changes to the BPS system revealed on Thursday which will affect defenders. As discussed in Thursday’s article, a decrease in the BPS for pass completion should prove detrimental to defenders within teams that dominate possession and therefore have little trouble amassing 30 passes or more. As an example, the likes of Per Mertesacker, Laurent Koscielny and John Terry all broke 30 passes per match and registered a pass completion rate around the 89% mark.

It’s fair to say that rule change doesn’t affect the budget options nearly as much, given most are likely to play for teams who will play second fiddle for possession for the majority of the season.

On the upside, an alteration to the treatment of Clearances, Blocks and Interceptions (CBI) should boost the bonus point prospects of dominant central defenders in the season ahead. Essentially, a player needed to make three clearances, blocks or interceptions to earn a point towards BPS last season but now needs to make just two. Furthermore, players are now rewarded two BPS points for every net successful tackle this time around – double last season’s one point.

With that in mind, let’s cast an eye over the chief budget protagonists..

Having conceded 57 goals last season – the third worst defensive record last season – Aston Villa’s defensive assets are all priced at 4.5 and below, apart from Leandro Bacuna (5.0), who has been reclassified as a defender after being fielded as a right-back under Tim Sherwood. Kieran Richardson has also been listed as a defender this time around and comes in 0.5 less than the Dutchman, though managed just one assist last season.

With Ron Vlaar unlikely to sign a new contract at Villa Park, new signing Micah Richards could prove the pick of the Villa rearguard, although he looks set to feature at centre-back, with Alan Hutton battling Bacuna for the right-back berth. The likes of Philippe Senderos and Nathan Baker come in at 4.0 apiece but look unlikely to nail down a starting role, with Jores Okore and Ciaran Clark vying for the central spot alongside Richards. Amongst Villa defenders last season, Clark made the most CBI (277), whilst Hutton produced the most successful tackles (41) – a pattern that fits in with the idea that centre-halves will benefit more from the CBI change, whilst full-backs should be the winners for successful tackles.

Villa dovetail with Midlands rivals West Brom over the coming season, though in terms of defenders, only Jonas Olsson and Sebastian Pocognoli are available for 4.5. Bearing in mind they managed five and zero starts under Tony Pulis, they are unlikely targets for our squad.

All of Premier League new boys Bournemouth’s backline come in at 4.5 in FPL other than Adam Smith, who is 0.5 cheaper, but likely to only provide back-up at the south coast club. The choice for Fantasy managers looks to come between new club-record signing Tyrone Mings, who registered a goal and four assists for Ipswich last season, and should start at left-back, or, on the opposition flank, Simon Francis, who netted once and grabbed six assists last term. Sylvain Distin has joined from Everton and could partner club captain Tommy Elphick, which would mean Steve Cook, who scored five goals last season, finds himself on the periphery.

Looking back to last season in the top-flight, Burnley’s Jason Shackell produced 549 CBI – put into perspective, that was 76 more than all but one other defender, Swansea’s Ashley Williams. Clearly then, it will be worth monitoring the new boys’ options in the heart of their respective back-fours to ascertain the likeliest beneficiaries.

For those who are keen to rotate a Bournemouth defender given their favourable opening home fixtures (AVL, LEI, SUN, WAT), the Cherries, who registered 19 shut-outs last season, are paired with Watford over the 38 Gameweeks.

The Hornets only kept 15 clean sheets last season, so for some, carrying two defenders from newly-promoted teams could be considered something of a risk. For those who are considering this pairing, though, centre-back Sebastian Prodl, who joins from Werder Bremen after scoring three times in 19 starts for the German side during the 2014/15 campaign, looks the primary target.

The Austrian international, who carries a 4.5 price tag, looks a near certain starter, and has a slight edge over Gabriele Angella, who possesses a similar threat from set-pieces, having produced nine goals over the Hornets previous two campaigns, but looks less certain of his place in new boss Quique Sanchez Flores’ preferred starting XI. At this stage it appears unlikely that any of the defenders priced at 4.0 could be relied upon as regular starters, with Juan Carlos Paredes and new left-back Jose Holebas also at 4.5. With the centre-halves looking favourites due to CBI changes here, investment in Angella or the imposing Prodl could prove the best bet.

After keeping only two clean sheets in 18 matches under Alan Pardew, Crystal Palace defenders may not be very high on our pre-season shopping lists. We should have some Eagles regulars available at 4.5 in FPL, though, with full-back Joel Ward looking the most nailed on budget option, having made 37 starts last term. He has only managed one goal and three assists over the last two seasons, however, so attacking points could be at a premium. It’s worth noting that Ward won more tackles (80) than any defender in the league last season and should be a main benficiary from the above-mentioned BPS change.

Martin Kelly, Damien Delaney, Pape Souare and Brede Hangeland all come in at the same price as Ward, and after strong performances in Palace’s victories in their final two matches of last season against Liverpool and Swansea, it could be the Senegal international who establishes himself as the first-choice left-back and moves onto our radars. Delaney was Palace’s top defender for both CBI (322) and minutes per CBI (eight) over the previous campaign and could prove decent value in the heart of the back-four should he nail down a starting berth again.

Palace offer a perfect home and away rotation with Stoke over the course of the season, and perhaps surprisingly, we will also have some Potters starters available in the budget price bracket. Geoff Cameron, Phil Bardsley, Marc Wilson, Marc Muniesa and Philipp Wollscheid all set you back 4.5 in FPL, but with Mark Hughes reshuffling the back four regularly last season, it’s currently difficult to judge who will sit alongside skipper Ryan Shawcross in the back four.

Muniesa started the final three matches of last season at centre-back and could get the nod, while Cameron and Bardsley look set to battle it out for the right-back berth along with expected new signing Glen Johnson. The imminent departure of Asmir Begovic looks set to hand Jack Butland or Jakob Haugaard the number one jersey, though, and at 4.5 apiece, there are options between the posts for the Potters, too. Fantasy managers will be hoping the pre-season matches provide some clues to Hughes’ preferred starting line-up for the home clash with Liverpool in the opening Gameweek.

Leighton Baines is not travelling with his Everton team-mates for the pre-season trip to Singapore, with the 30-year-old England international still recovering from ankle surgery. That could see either Luke Garbutt or Brendan Galloway, both priced at 4.5 in FPL, deputise for the opening few weeks if Baines fails to recover in time, although the Toffees tough schedule after the opening day home encounter with Watford limits their appeal as short-term prospects.

The Leicester defence provided Fantasy managers with great value through the latter part of last season, with the Foxes clocking up five clean sheets in their final seven matches. Wes Morgan averaged six points per appearance over the Foxes final 11 fixtures last season, grabbing two goals and two assists, and looks a great option at 4.5, although Robert Huth, signed on a permanent deal from Stoke this summer, could rival the Leicester skipper for popularity. The Germany international tied with Morgan for goal attempts from inside the box (seven) over the final six Gameweeks last season, leading all defenders. Kasper Schmeichel’s save point potential between the sticks could sway some to lean towards the Dane, however, with Leicester offering a home/away rotation with Swansea for 38 Gameweeks.

Morgan was sixth overall for CBI (409) last term, though Huth’s average was quicker (one every 7.27 minutes compared to 8.45), suggesting the German could profit more with a security of starts at the King Power.

Like last season, all of Newcastle’s backline bar Daryl Janmaat are available for 4.5 or less in FPL. Fabricio Coloccini looks the safest route after chalking up a reasonable nine bonus points last season, while Steven Taylor, valued at 4.0, will jump onto our radars if he forces his way into new boss Steve McClaren’s plans after recovering from a ruptured achilles tendon.

Perhaps surprisingly, Taylor’s minutes per CBI (9.6) was quicker than any defensive team-mate, with Coloccini only fourth quickest (11.06 minutes) amongst their backline options.

The Magpies dovetail perfectly with north East rivals Sunderland over the 38 Gameweeks, so a rotation partnership of Coloccini and John O’Shea, for example, would set you back just 9.0. Elsewhere at the Stadium of Light, Sebastian Coates, signed on a permanent deal from Liverpool earlier this month, was a crucial part of Sunderland’s renaissance under Dick Advocaat, with the Black Cats keeping three clean sheets in their final four matches last term, and could rival O’Shea as the strongest option.

Billy Jones established himself as the first-choice right back under the former Rangers boss, but Adam Matthews, signed from Celtic, will compete with the former West Brom man for a starting berth. Matthews served up two goals and 12 assists in the last couple of years at Parkhead and comes in cheaper than fellow full-back Patrick van Aanholt, though some may still prefer to draft in Costel Pantilimon at 5.0, due to the new change in BPS rules which benefit his save point potential.

In terms of CBI, though, Coates’ average of 8.99 was some way quicker than Brown (11) and O’Shea (12.06), which could boost the Uruguayan’s prospects via Bonus Points.

Revisiting the promoted sides prospects, Norwich’s defenders look nicely priced ahead of the new campaign.

Martin Olsson and Sebastian Bassong appear to have the most upside, although the former could miss the start of the season after undergoing shoulder surgery this summer. Bassong looks a sure starter at centre-back and can provide a threat from set-pieces, scoring three goals and bagging two assists during the 2012/13 campaign, although he did fail to produce attacking returns in the following season, when the Canaries were relegated. John Ruddy’s save point potential may be difficult to ignore between the sticks here.

Southampton rotate with Norwich over the course of the season, though it seems unlikely that Maya Yoshida or Cuco Martina (4.5) will nail down a regular role. Ronald Koeman is likely to acquire a high calibre centre-half after failing to bring Toby Alderweireld back to St. Mary’s. Left-back Matt Targett could be a bargain short-term prospect at 4.0, with Ryan Bertrand set to miss the start of the campaign with a knee injury – that depends on whether Koeman deploys the versatile Martina in this role.

Similarly, Spurs and Swansea look unlikely to provide us with any regular starters at 4.5 or less, with the likes of Ben Davies and Angel Rangel behind Danny Rose and Kyle Naughton respectively in the pecking order.

The same could be said over at West Ham. James Collins, a firm favourite under Sam Allardyce, seems unlikely to feature as much this time around, given that Juventus centre-back Angelo Ogbonna signed on at Upton Park yesterday. A new right-back could also be high on Slaven Bilic’s wishlist, so Joey O’Brien will probably only provide cover under the Croatian. Youngsters Reece Burke and Reece Oxford, both priced at 4.0 in FPL, could be worth monitoring, particularly the latter, who lined up in centre midfield in the Europa League first round first leg clash against FC Lusitans last week.

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  1. Jackie Can
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Giroud and Wanyama (currently bench fodder) or Henderson and Berahino?

    Thinking about how much better midfielders scored last year and arsenal rotation/uncertainty

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I don't like either set to be quite honest, but the second looks more preferable.

  2. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    The 4th mid and 3rd striker is tricky. Got 11.5m for both. I'm thinking Sakho/Diouf and possibly Downing. Hopefully Wini will come in at 6m and he'll get straight in to my team

    1. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I'm waiting on Austin, he'd do well at Newcastle I think

      1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        We're close to getting Mitrovic. If we get him I can't see him coming. Great option at any mid table club though

        1. Bolivian Seaman
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          He looks good, Mitrovic. Hope he turns out well for you

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I say Ritchie and Deeney. Those two teams don't look like they've come to win games through tight defending.

      1. Exilizer
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        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Good shout.

      2. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I want to avoid promoted teams to start with

    3. Exilizer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      You going for a non playing 4m 5th mid then?

      1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        4.5 playing mid

  3. The_Socca_Philosopha
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    RMT Rough Draft

    Ruddy/Fabianski
    Azpi/Koscielny/Alderweireld/Cedric/Morgan
    Silva/Mane/Fabregas/Walcott/Hoolahan
    Wilson/Bony/Benteke

    Probably need to upgrade the strike force, but who do I downgrade and which forward should I bring in and why

    Cheers from Michigan

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      You can save 0.5 easily from both the keepers and defenders.

    2. MagnetBPS
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Alderweireld to 4.0 def, Mane to Hendo and Bony to Costa

    3. Birds of Prey
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Fabianski rotates with Schmiechel probably 1.5 over on defenders
      I think you need at least 2 of Rooney Costa Haz Alexis Silva Kun
      Bony is dicey at 8.5 maybe cut defense and get Giroud Kane or even Rooney
      Rooney v Kane is something I'm wrestling with. Lose Hoolahan get a decent 5.5 instead. IMO GL

    4. MagnetBPS
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Walcott to Ozil/Cazorla

      1. The_Socca_Philosopha
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Personally, I'm not sold on either of those . . .

  4. Exilizer
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    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    So schweinsteiger about 7.5 do we reckon?

    not that he is fantasy material.

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I asked earlier and the consensus seemed to be 8.0.

      1. Exilizer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Fair enough.

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I would say 8m due to reputation but he's not an option really.

  5. Venom Snake
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Thanks for the replies. If Rooney is upfront he is a must have imo

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      So Rooney, not Kane + 1.0?

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        No, not yet.

    2. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Wouldn't surprise me if MU where to suck as a whole the first month or so

  6. President John F. Keninnsie
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Lukakuuuuuu

    1. Twelve years a slave
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      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      He couod be worth a GW1 punt, but it has the potential to backfire. If he blanks and your team suffers an injury or two you will be in a bit of a pickle.

      High risk high reward play, rather like Bony

      1. President John F. Keninnsie
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I don't think his fixtures are that bad. Bad from a defensive perspective, but I can see goals for Everton. Check out my hot topic.

        1. Bolivian Seaman
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I agree too. Everton will be good this season. Not brilliant but better than last.

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Noboby seems to have twigged the lukaku out pelle in move for gameweek 2....from gw3 -5 southampton have great fixtures.
      The best bit is if he blanks you can get pelle in and on gw 3 southampton have everton at st marys 🙂

      1. President John F. Keninnsie
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        SOT v EVE is GW 2. I don't really like planning transfers tbh, especially at the start of the season. No doubt an injury/suspension/bandwagon will require our attention first.

    3. Dangerous Dave
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I'm never going near Lukaku again thank you very much. He's burnt me so many times down the years.

      1. President John F. Keninnsie
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Your loss. He's on penalties now and doesn't have the distraction of the Europa League. I'll enjoy his goals 🙂

        1. Dangerous Dave
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I'll get on him the moment he fires up then if he does.

  7. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    A solution hadps been found to the RMT problem

    http://www.tiggerlips.com

    1. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      http://Www.triggerlips.com

      My typing on ipad is shocking

    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Nice link. 😉

    3. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      You should test the links on the latest article.

      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Fixed

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          You're welcome.

  8. Bolivian Seaman
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Abdi looks a real steal at 5.0m. People trying to find a 4.5m midfielder should find an extra 0.5m for this guy. The Watford fans love him, he plays behind the striker, takes the set pieces(except penalties) and should play every minute. Sounds like he will be instrumental to any goals they score.

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      He'll just end up with frustrating bench points.

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I have to agree on the 5.0 midfielder point. Plenty of options in that range and not so for 4.5 (apart from Ruth's mystery man).

      Not sure specifically on Abdi. How many games did he start last year (when healthy and eligible)?

      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        43, 11 goals. The promoted sides last year Burnley, QPR, Leicester talked about their strikers Ings, Austin, Vardy the most to keep them in the premiership. Watford fans think Abdi will. So maybe its a 3-5-2 this year. Who knows?

    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      alternative to getting deeney up front I will add abdi to watchlist so.

      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I just don't want Callum Wilson in my team, he looks rubbish. Glorified penalty taker. Ritchie doesn't look good either 1m more than Abdi, and he's a glorified corner taker. Bournemouth are a hard working team, Wilson even comes and helps the midfield, not good for fantasy.

    4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I looked him up on wiki sounds like a decent player when fit (I put him in my team rotates with ritchie from bournmouth)

  9. Captain Peacock
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    What price do we estimate for Wijnaldum? 14 goals in both 12-13 and 14-15 Eredivisie (injured in 13-14).

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      8.5m

    2. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      7

      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        My grannie could score 14 goals in the Error division, and shes been dead ten years

        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          In fairness a lot of prolific strikers have played there Brazilian Ronaldo, Ruud Van Nist etc

          1. Dangerous Dave
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Don't forget Suarez and Ibrahimovic.

  10. Koflok
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Best 5.5m def?

    A) Clyne
    B) Mertesacker
    C) Creswell + Francis combo

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      It depends. I love the Liverpool defenders for a rotation.
      Mert is a good pick.
      C is also a good combo. If you have someone to rotate with Clyne get him, if not B.

      1. Koflok
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        So it's all close then 😉

        I can rotate Clyne with a Norwich / Palace defender. But Clyne have attacking returns in him so it might be random.

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      10.0 is not a viable rotation. Creswell will do perfectly fine starting every week.

      1. Koflok
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah fair enough. It's just that West Ham and Bournemouth rotates so perfectly. Is there a 4.5m WHM defender?

  11. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Number of players per team with >10% ownership

    7 - Chelsea
    6 - Arsenal
    5 - Liverpool
    4 - Man City
    3 - Palace, Everton, Leicester, Southampton
    2 - Villa, Man Utd, Spurs
    1 - Swansea, Watford, West Ham
    0 - Bournemouth, Newcastle, Norwich, Stoke, Sunderland, West Brom

    Noticeable low numbers for Man City and Man Utd?

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      That is why I have silva and Mata

    2. ChelseaKTBFF
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Depends on squad depth really.

      Who is going to sign filipe luis, cuadrado, mikel ake etc etc

  12. Mull
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    I've always wondered what a lobotomy feels like. Can Lukaku owners tell me?

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Like warm apple pie.

      1. Mull
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Not falling for that again. Scolded my balls last time!

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I remember a game last season I had him as captain he played like a walking lamp-post. First touch was terrible his movement was awful. Yet somehow he managed to get an assist for a goal because the ball hit off him and towards the goalscorer.;D
      It sums him up!

  13. Dangerous Dave
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Who's on Liverpool pens now that SG has gone?

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Hendo probably.

      1. Dangerous Dave
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Thank you.

    2. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Whoever grabs the ball first

      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        If balo is on the pitch it should be him

  14. Marshall96
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    What do you's think??

    Cech

    Bellerin Toby Richards

    Hazard Hendo Bolasie Debay

    Aguero Lukaku Deeney

    Subs: Atsu O'Shea Williams

    1. LoneGunner
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Bellerin will earn games, his promise assures it, but Mathieu Debuchy is the rightback of choice for Arsenal.

  15. Sushi Boks
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    How much do you think Marco Van Gink (stoke) and darmian will be?

    1. ChelseaKTBFF
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      isnt van ginkel in the game already?

      1. OShaughnessy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I can't find him?

        Marco...

  16. RoyaleBlue
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Hey guys, first post of the season. just wondering who everyone is selecting as their cheap 5th midfielder?

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Anya

    2. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Andy King right now, but very unsure

    3. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Looking at the 5m category. There are a few options there

    4. Dangerous Dave
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Fletcher or Wanyama. I won't play them but they're nailed on for their clubs.

  17. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Current players with 0.1% ownership (i.e picked in only 1 out of every 1000 teams) priced at £6m+:

    Andy Carroll
    Gouffran
    Lambert
    Markovic

  18. The Sarjeant
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Your a bad, bad guy, Innsie. You've got me considering the Romelu.

    Night all!

    1. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I just don't understand the appeal at all. Crap EPL form and crap fixtures, go figure.

      1. President John F. Keninnsie
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        - On penalties
        - No Europa League (where he scored 10 goals last season)
        - Nailed on
        - The fixtures aren't as bad as they look on paper
        - Linked up excellently with Deulofeu when he was previously at Everton
        - Great GW 1 fixture (a goal = casuals will buy him = price rise)

        I could go on tbh. Everton suffered a lot last season due to Europa League commitments, similarly to what EL has done to the likes of Swansea and Tottenham in the past. Martinez played almost a full strength squad in every match. The core group of starting players suffered from fatigue, but now with no EL they'll have a lot more time to rest and will be fully focussed on the PL.

        1. Ryan
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          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          One Penalties - Everton tend not to get many penalties
          No Europa league - Fair point
          Nailed on - I would have thought this is a given for any striker we chose
          Fixtures - They are bad don't be silly
          Deulofeu - Perhaps but we'll see
          GW1 - A bit short term and points aren't guaranteed

          1. djenzio
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            people are considering the likes of Sakho, Bony and Ings who are not nailed on though

            1. Ryan
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              • 12 Years
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              I wouldn't consider those guys and I have no idea why that justifies Lukaku as an option

              1. djenzio
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                because one of your points was that Lukaku being nailed on is not worth anything because you said any striker we choose is as nailed on, i named 3 strikers I have seen in RMTs who are not nailed, yet are being considered over Lukaku

                1. Ryan
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                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 9 months ago

                  You haven't named all the nailed on strikers in the league. Just some of the worst options, terrible justification.

                  1. Ryan
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                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 9 months ago

                    And Bony and Ings aren't even nailed on!

                2. Ryan
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                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 9 months ago

                  Thats what RMT's are for though of course, to filter out the options that aren't nailed on such as Ings and Bony. My point is for the actual nailed on strikers and I have already said I'm not interested in the likes of Bony and Ings I can't account for the 1000's of deluded people out there that think they are nailed on.

          2. President John F. Keninnsie
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            I genuinely don't believe the fixtures are as bad as people make them out to be. Yes, playing against the likes of Norwich and Bournemouth would be better than playing the Manchester clubs for example, but I'd back Everton to score in at least 8 of their opening 10 games. Lukaku is their main man. Check out my hot topic for my thoughts on their fixtures.

            1. Ryan
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              • 12 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              I've seen the HT and like others who have commented there you do seem to be fooling yourself into thinking the fixtures are better than they are.

              1. President John F. Keninnsie
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                We'll see.

                1. djenzio
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 9 months ago

                  the fixtures are not good, but also people tend to forget, as you said Innsie, the attacking returns. City were awful last season defence wise, so it's fair to say City will prob win that much, but doesnt mean they own't ship a goal or two. Same for Utd

                  1. President John F. Keninnsie
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 9 months ago

                    Yes, and the outcome of the match means nothing in FPL, it's all about points. It makes no difference if Lukaku scores in a 1-0 win over a small team or in a 1-4 loss to a big team. A goal's a goal and in both scenarios we're looking at 6+ points.

                    1. djenzio
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 9 months ago

                      exactly

                      that;s why sometimes going for the main player in a team can be a very smart choice, even a team that are not particularly good, getting that one player that everything goes through, for example Austin last season.

                      Lukaku has the potential to be that player but we have yet to see it from him even though he threatens to do it every year, he is a huge risk, but I don't think people are giving him a fair chance and with a lack of options of front he is an option that should be considered

                      1. President John F. Keninnsie
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Well said.

                    2. Ryan
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                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 9 months ago

                      Sorry but if you play the percentages it makes more sense to have a striker playing Norwich than one playing City.

                      1. President John F. Keninnsie
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Of course it does, that's exactly what I said above. I just think it's a bit premature ruling out an option solely because of fixtures - especially someone like Lukaku, who is known for blanking against 'easier' teams and scoring against 'harder' ones...

                      2. Ryan
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Its just another reason to not get Lukaku Innsie. He's inconsistent, has tough fixtures when there are plenty of alternative options with better fixtures.

                      3. djenzio
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        well of course.

                        the point was more than just because a team has difficult fixtures, shouldn't rule out their attacking returns. a difficult fixture implies a win is hard to get, not a goal scored.

                        of course you would also pick the striker against Norwich,

                        to sum up: disregarding defenders with difficult fixtures makes more sense than attackers!

                      4. President John F. Keninnsie
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        I'm just not convinced by the other options yet, that's why Lukaku entered my thoughts. Every striker has their downside and Lukaku's main one is, on paper, fixtures, but I see plenty of upside in owning him too.

                      5. Ryan
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Surely you can find a nailed on option with good fixtures from Giroud, Costa, Kane, Benteke, Aguero, Rooney, Wilson, Deeney,

                      6. President John F. Keninnsie
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Yes but we need 3 strikers. Money becomes a problem too if we're not going with Wilson/Deeney. I'll have one of Aguero/Rooney/Costa, but past those 3 I'm not really convinced by any of the other options you've mentioned. They've all got question marks over them.

                      7. Ryan
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        So does Lukaku though Innsie, the 3rd striker spot is an issue but I'm certain there are less riskier options than an 8m Lukaku

                      8. President John F. Keninnsie
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Yeah I'm not arguing with that. High-risk high-reward.

      2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Rooney only scored two more goals then lukaku last season

        1. Ryan
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          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          He played in midfield a lot to be fair

          1. djenzio
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            true.

            it is odd why Rooney is 10.5 though after last years performance. I guess Sturridge is the same.

            1. Ryan
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              • 12 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Probably because certain strikers have left United and now it appears Rooney is nailed on up front as the main striker

              1. djenzio
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                RvP hasn't left and is still 9.5 in the game which makes no sense when you look at his goals last season.

                Rooney is way overpriced for the returns he had last season and there is no way to know if he will play up front or in midfield this season.

                It's crazy that Kane is 1m cheaper than him when you look at their previous form,

                1. Ryan
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                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 9 months ago

                  Rooney will play up front this season because RVP and Hernandez are on the verge of leaving and Falcao has already left

                  1. djenzio
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 9 months ago

                    my point is that has not happened, and FPL can't justify pricing on the fact that players are on the verge of leaving. At the time of pricing Utd had one less striker than last season, but also Hernandez is back from loan, so technically they had the same amount of strikers.

                    I think too much of Rooney's price is based on the fact he plays for Utd,

                    they gave RvP a big price drop due to his dip in form, so it's odd how much Rooney is given his form.

                    Just because he may be the only striker at the club, that shouldn't affect his price imo

                    1. Ryan
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                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 9 months ago

                      Well its not for me to judge but by the way things are shaping up it does appear Rooney will be nailed on up front for United so 10.5 might end up being justified.

                      1. djenzio
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        I really think Utd need to sign a striker or they are in trouble

                        but if they don't and Rooney is nailed as striker I want to see him and Utd play a few games first, with so many new players and the way they played last season I think they will be slow off the mark

                        he is a patchy player so getting him at the right time is crucial, if Utd pick up speed ill get him in but I would prefer to have Costa and Kane and I can't afford all three

                      2. Ryan
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        I'm not in for Rooney either for the reasons you suggest. I certainly think Costa and Kane are better options right now till we see how United shape up

                      3. djenzio
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        exactly.

                        also have Kun in mind, might try keep money in the bank.

                        the dream front line is Kun Kane Costa but no way in hell can we afford that

                    2. Billy Gilmore
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 9 months ago

                      Of course it should. It's obvious to every man and his dog that Rooney will play up front. So you want him priced lower, then when he starts banging them in for fun, like he always has when playing up front, he ruins the game?

                      1. djenzio
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        He should have been priced the same as Kane.

                        Spurs finished 5th, United 4th. not much between them and Kane was a lot better last season (I know Rooney was playing a lot in mid but still.....)

                        also Kane has quickly become the main man at Spurs

                        I don't agree that he has a huge price hike because it's Utd.

                      2. Ryan
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Kane has only done it in one season whereas Rooney has proven to be fantasy gold in the past when played up front as a striker. I can understand the difference in price.

                      3. djenzio
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        why is RVP 9.5 then? surely on that basis he should be the same as Rooney

                      4. Now I'm Panicking
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        *Adds RVP to watchlist*

                      5. Billy Gilmore
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        If anything Kane is underpriced. Most likely because he's only done it for one season (not even a full season at that) whereas Rooney has been an elite FPL option for a decade.

                      6. Ryan
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        He isn't good enough to start and he will be moving clubs, its obvious

                      7. Billy Gilmore
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Because he's not likely to start many matches, has had an enormous downturn in productivity over 2 seasons and is clearly in decline as a player. Rooney had a downturn last season as a result of circumstances not that he was getting worse as a player. Apples and oranges.

                        They are priced on what FPL think they'll score. Do you think Rooney is capable of 200+? Do you think RVP is capable of 180+?

                      8. Rotation City
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Is ManU still interested in Kane?

    2. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      All aboard! 😀

      Night Sarje.

      1. djenzio
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        he somehow made his way into my latest draft and somehow I blame you Innsie!!

        1. President John F. Keninnsie
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          You'll thank me later 🙂

          1. djenzio
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            not sure how long he will stay there, that gw1 fixture is too damn tempting

  19. Ryan
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    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Lets put 2 and 2 together

    - The appeal of rotating GKers is the slight tendency of getting more clean sheets at home
    - Cheap GKers gain a lot of their points through save points
    - Save points can occur away and at home

    So why rotate 2 cheap GKers?

    1. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      You could also argue that more save points occur away from home

    2. Birds of Prey
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      because historically the right pair will outscore the best 1 keeper option... say Courtois +4.0

      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        What are the chances you'll stumble across the right pair? and What was the right pair last season?

    3. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Home/away rotation isn't the only rotation. But you've touched on a point...I was wanting to include Myhill in my (fixture strength) rotation, but WBA often went for it against the lower table sides and probably actually kept more cleansheets against the tougher sides. So I might have to rework it.

      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        WBA is a perfect example of unpredictable points, both save points and clean sheets.

        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Perhaps. I think with Brom it's the extremes you want to avoid - very good attacking teams like City & Arsenal that even Pulis can't keep at bay, and at the other end of the spectrum, teams lower in the table they play more attacking against (and consequently concede to).

          1. Reedy
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            But yes, save points are a bit of a lottery

          2. Ryan
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            • 12 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            WBA kept out the top teams as well, I genuinely think its WBA you really don't want to rotate.

            1. Reedy
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Yep, I think Arsenal & City were the exceptions, but I'd happily play WBA defs against Utd, Everton etc. Or maybe I'm just seeing patterns that suit me, after the event...it's always difficult to know.

    4. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I would rotate keepers but I'd take a GK who has a chance for saves and cleansheets in the same game. And Leicester have that

    5. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      "...the slight tendency of getting more clean sheets at home..."

      Nope. It's a 50% better chance statistically over 10 seasons. 3 home clean sheets to every 2 away.

      Last season: 35% home clean sheets, 29% overall clean sheets, 24% away clean sheets. Almost bang on the 10 year average.

      That's more than a "slight tendency".

      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Of course you would only rotate cheap GKers who rely more on save points

        1. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          rotating will always go wrong at some point but on an average, if you play the 'easier' fixture which will usually be the home game, it will balance out a good investment via law of averages, as pointed out by Ruth that home game result in more clean sheets.

          You will never get it right every week unless you are extremely lucky,

          but having a keeper playing at home every week you have more chance of clean sheets than playing say a premium keeper like Courtois every week

          1. Ryan
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            • 12 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Except cheap GKer's don't get a lot of clean sheets anyway and score most of their points through save points. Using your logic rotating GKers would make more sense with premium GKers because they rely more on clean sheets.

            1. djenzio
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              true. 2 premium keepers is the best option but it's an unrealistic one because more points are earned in attack

              my point was 2 cheap rotating is better than one premium and a non playing, e.g Courtois and Hamer

              1. Ryan
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                • 12 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                Because they get save points? You see you need to eliminate the clean sheet option for cheap GKers because for the amount they get it becomes negligible.

        2. Ruth_NZ
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          No they don't. Take Krul last season - 30 games played for 99 FPL points:

          8 clean sheets = 32 points
          30 appearances = 60 points
          5 BPs = 5 points
          1 YC = -1 point
          47 goals conceded = -15 points
          83 saves = 18 points

          The clean sheet points were roughly twice as important as the save points. But the biggest component was appearance points which were roughly 2.5 times as important as save points. Additionally, save points can also be scored in a clean sheet game and often are.

          GKs should primarily be selected for clean sheet potential I think, the saves will (in most cases) look after themselves. Although there are odd discrepancies like Sunderland's tendency last season to concede quite a few shots from distance (because they tended to defend deep and in numbers) meaning a marginally greater chance of save points.

          1. Ryan
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            • 12 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Ruth the other issue is stumbling across the correct combo and getting it right. With the 4.5's at your disposal do you think you can get a combo that can get 150pts this season?

            1. Ruth_NZ
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Since when did 150 points become the target Ryan? From memory only Fabianski managed more than that last season.

              I'd be perfectly happy with Foster/Myhill, that's 9.5. I'd also be perfectly happy with Stekelenburg/Ruddy, also 9.5 and a perfect h/a rotation. Or Fabianski/Schmeichel, also 9.5 and a perfect h/a rotation. Or Pantilimon/Butland, also 9.5 and a 34/38 h/a rotation. I doubt the difference between any of those options will be enormous.

              1. Ryan
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                • 12 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                Chelsea GKer would have had 159pts. Mignolet got close on 149pts, WBA GKer would have had more than 150pts easily especially if Pulis was in charge all season.

                Injuries and rotation is the only issue of course but if you are confident that Courtois for example will play every game of the season then I think 150pts+ is a fair expectation.

                1. Ruth_NZ
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 9 months ago

                  Well, with Courtois I am not confident of that, in fact I'm pretty sure he won't. Jose wants a top 2nd GK and will play them sometimes. And he doesn't do the "this competition for Courtois and this for Begovic" thing, he mixes it up.

                  Additionally I don't want to waste a Chelsea slot on a GK. Cech + 4.0 would be a more realistic comparison. And I think a good 9.5 rotation will outscore that most likely.

                  Here we go - I'll take the Southampton/Norwich pair and I'll play whoever is at home every week except when I do the 15-man bench chip thingy. You can have Courtois or Cech (or Hart if you want) and play them every week. I'll have a bet with you that I'll win at the end of the season. Though I'll have to be allowed to switch Stekelenburg for Forster when he's fit again. 🙂

                  1. Ryan
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                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 9 months ago

                    Lets keep tabs on it Ruth. Bragging rights at the end of the season is up for grabs. I'm calling for a single GKer strategy and you're going for a rotation strategy. Lets compare notes at the end of the season.

                    I can't say I'll stick with anything in particular all season because WC's can of course change everything.

                    1. Ruth_NZ
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 9 months ago

                      I won't either. 🙂 I was talking theoretically too.

                      1. Ryan
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        In that case lets compare 5m + 4m (9.0) vs whatever 4.5 + 4.5 (9.0). I think this might be a fairer test

                      2. Ruth_NZ
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Trouble is, in my personal opinion there isn't a 4.5 4.5 rotation worth having. 🙁

                      3. Ryan
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 9 months ago

                        Hence my point 😉

                        I think Mignolet at 5m with 149pts last season is a bargain

              2. Ryan
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                • 12 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                9.5 rotations are of course different from my original point because that obviously involves a mid priced GKer when my point was just for the cheap 4.5 options and 9.0 total.

                A rotation of 9.5 is likely to yield higher returns than a 9.0 of course.

                1. Ruth_NZ
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 9 months ago

                  Well there's not a 9.0 that interests me. I don't rotate rubbish. 🙂

                  But 9.5 is the same as a 5.5 plus 4.0 combo so it's a fair comparison really.

                  1. Ryan
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                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 9 months ago

                    Alright, its not the point of my argument but if you want a direct comparison we'll see. I must say I am less confident of course but still think it could go either way.

            2. Billy Gilmore
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              I think it's simple enough to find a combo that will match the highest scorers, yes. The thing with rotation is that at worst* you'll likely match the score of just one of the keepers but if you get it right more often than not you can get a massive advantage. With one GK you are limited with their potential.

              *realistic worst case, not lowest score every week

          2. Bolivian Seaman
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Nice stats. It was agony waiting for Krul to get a save point. Try fabianksi's stats they will be very different.

            1. Ruth_NZ
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Fabianski was the top scoring GK in the game and was priced 5.0, not 4.5 so doesn't come into Ryan's argument. However 65 of his 151 points came from his 13 clean sheets and that's a higher percentage of the total than Krul had.

              Beyond that I'm not going to check everyone's stats. I just picked Krul at random. If you want to do the research you are welcome.

              1. Bolivian Seaman
                • 13 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                Ok. But I like Ryan's argument. Rotation is good but we have to get it right for it to be worth it. This year, an away cleansheet should mean more points for 1 keeper teams.

                1. Ruth_NZ
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 9 months ago

                  To be honest I don't much care. I'm happy paying 9.5 for GKs and whether that ends up being a rotation or a Foster/Myhill type thing is quite neutral for me. I wouldn't want, say, Fabianski and Rudd because although that's 9.0 it's one injury away from no GK.

                  The only reason I got involved here is because the statistical difference between home and away clean sheet probabilities is clear cut and I thought Ryan would want to know that.

                  1. Birds of Prey
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 9 months ago

                    at 9.5 I'm rotating Lloris and Speroni until week 12.

                    1. Ruth_NZ
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 9 months ago

                      Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me but good luck with it anyway. 🙂

              2. Kompany Man
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                Fabianski benefit from both a 75% save percentage and his team getting more clean sheets than Chelsea. I would bet strongly against either of those repeating this season!

                On the other hand, Krul's 65% save percentage seems likely to move back to average (around 70%).

  20. Ange Ball
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Hooper worth a punt? Norwich have good fixtures.

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Rather Jerome for 0.5 more.

    2. Santi sensei
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Not a first choice i think

  21. James LeBron
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Panty or Butland?

    1. Santi sensei
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Panty

  22. Santi sensei
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Hello, Good to be back DZ ! I've been missing you much 🙂

  23. RoyaleBlue
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Is Aguero set to miss the start of the season or something? I've seen him in very few teams

    1. Fais
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      People are assuming he'll be rested post Copa America I think.

      1. RoyaleBlue
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Ah ok, could hurt if he isn't rested. Thank you

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Those are the concerns with the Copa America players, but with Man City playing Chelsea GW2 I can't believe he isn't going to start GW1 to get match fit after a long break

    3. ALegendJ
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      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      it is believed that most Copa America players will be rested first 1 or 2 GWs

    4. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Last season after the world cup, he had two sub appearances in the first two games. He scored in his first game though, only having 7 minutes. I want more than 7 minutes for 13m

      1. Now I'm Panicking
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        But last season they had Dzeko and Jovetic forcing their way into the starting XI at the start of the season. I really don't see him not starting against Chelsea, nor going into that match not match fit

        1. RoyaleBlue
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I can see where you're both coming from. I'm sure we will have more of an idea closer to the time

  24. Sadio
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Which option are you taking?

    A) Ivanovic
    B) Pricier attack

    1. ALegendJ
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      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Currently I am on Pricier attack

    2. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      B

    3. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      B

    4. RoyaleBlue
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      B

    5. Nickofoz
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      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      A

    6. bdwhite91
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      ivanovic always has a hot start. Going with him for now

  25. Bolivian Seaman
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Who is your 5.5m defender if you have one?

    1. ALegendJ
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      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Phil Jones for now

    2. RoyaleBlue
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Mert

      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I'm on him at the moment. Some good ones in there.

        1. RoyaleBlue
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Defense is 5.5, 5, 4.5, 4.5, 4.5, 4.5

          It's the cheapest I feel good about, what are your thoughts?

          1. RoyaleBlue
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            whoops threw an extra dfender in there.

            1. Bolivian Seaman
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              It's always better to have a 4.0m in there. But there is only one who seems ok if he starts. Staylor. But that's my pricing strategy too. Most big teams are trying to start off well and will be quite attacking. Chelsea hardly kept a cleansheet until about 3 months into the season

              1. RoyaleBlue
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                Yeah I would appreciate the extra 0.5 that comes with a 4.0mil defender but I like to have all my players assured of a start, if Staylor becomes nailed on then I would be more than pleased to get him

      2. Trovsmash
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        mert

    3. djenzio
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      might go Clyne or Creswell

    4. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Darmian hopefully

      1. FortunesAlwaysHiding
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        If you need a 4.0 then I'd consider Reece Burke. Monitor the situation with Jenkinson.

        1. Bolivian Seaman
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Thanks, will do 🙂

    5. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Not currently but, I've had Bellerín in a few drafts.

  26. OShaughnessy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Folks, how much did Marco van Ginkel cost last time out?

    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I think it was 5.0 but could have been 5.5

      1. ALegendJ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        it was 5 as far as i remember

        1. OShaughnessy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Hmm, the plot thickens...

    2. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Actually FPL pulled a fast one by not pricing him already as a Chelsea player. They priced Loftus-Cheek but not MVG. Either it was an oversight or they wanted to know where he'd end up before pricing him. 😕

      1. OShaughnessy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        TY Ruth!
        *tips cap

        1. Ruth_NZ
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I honestly thought he'd be playing for us this season. He's very, very good.

          1. OShaughnessy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Being left out of the AC 1st team & then fighting his was back into the side to play in the Milan derby says a lot about the kid.

            If he gets starters mins for Hughes with their fixtures & in a much more open style (Gone are the says of the Stoke Rugby Club playing football) then he could be a sneaky shout as a 5th mid.

            Preseason will tell us a lot here.

            1. Ruth_NZ
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              He's better than a 5th mid. Unless you mean for a 3-5-2. And I doubt he'll be 4.5 though we can hope. He's good enough to be 4th mid if he becomes a Stoke regular (which I imagine he will).

  27. RoyaleBlue
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    After much deliberation this is my first draft, any thoughts ?

    Schmeichel (Adrian)

    Mert Cedric Mings (Richards Coates)

    Hazard Ramsey Silva Cabaye (Anya)

    Costa Lukaku Sakho

    No Sanchez bugs me quite a bit but getting him in as well as Silva and Hazard would be killer to the rest of the team. Consrtuctive critiscism is appreciated

    1. ALegendJ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Decent team, I would work on defence though. Despite Lukaku has an easy match GW1 it is followed by ugly ones, so I am not a fan to be honest.

      1. RoyaleBlue
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        thanks, yeah the 4.5's I am quite unsure about

  28. OShaughnessy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Just a heads up everyone...
    I'm swapping out two of my GW1 players on purpose every couple hours or so just to ensure the TSB% remains skewed!
    Muuhhaahahahaaha!

    1. ALegendJ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      That is the evilest thing I have ever heard

        1. ALegendJ
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I did actually mean the meme 😀

          1. OShaughnessy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Oh, I instantly felt the mindmelding ESP vibes, don't you worry about that! 😀

  29. The_Socca_Philosopha
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Ramsey, Ozil, Walcott or Cazorla?
    And do you think Aguero will start? Is Bony too much of a risk?

    Cheers from Michigan

    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I'm currently on Ramsey,

    2. ALegendJ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Cazorla for me in the beginning, and I wouldnt go Bony unless I would be ready to do the switch GW2

      1. ALegendJ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        he might move though, next in line for me is Ozil

    3. Pacman
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I like Ozil if he is still there. Staying away from bony - like Yaya for the penalties

    4. meman
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Cazorla for me until I see the others play better

    5. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Ramsey, but like Ozil too

  30. meman
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Another night another draft:

    Courtois / Schmeichel

    Koscelny / Janmmaat / O'Shea / Morgan / Turner

    Hazard / Firmino / Cazorla / Yaya / Wanyama

    Rooney / Lukaku / Sakho

    Thoughts? I think if Newcastle are better team this year, Janmaat will be a big part of that with signings like Wijnaldum

    1. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I like it. A bit different, but the differences are good ones. Firmino is an interesting pick, a mini-not-so-good sanchez but should get reasonable points