Dugout Discussion

Dugout Discussion – Wednesday

The festive fixture list finally draws to its conclusion this evening as Tottenham Hotspur welcome Chelsea to White Hart Lane at 8pm.

Four of the top seven captains for Gameweek 20 – Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Alexis Sanchez, Sergio Aguero and Romelu Lukaku – have already found the net earlier in the week.

The remaining three, Diego Costa, Eden Hazard and Harry Kane, have it all to do, then, with Costa the most popular of that trio – 11.6% have backed the Spain international, compared to Hazard (4.7%) and Kane’s 2.8%.

Costa, certainly, has been the more impressive of the Chelsea pair on his travels – the Spain international has scored eight away goals compared to Hazard’s two.

Yet the league leaders won’t have it easy – Spurs boast the tightest home defence in the top-flight, with just five goals against in front of their own fans.

Chelsea, meanwhile, have been similarly resilient, conceding just one goal in six away matches since Antonio Conte switched to a 3-4-3 set-up.

Nonetheless, many Fantasy managers will be keeping a keen eye on Kane along with Deli Alli and Christian Eriksen, with the fixtures set to smile kindly on Spurs from Gameweek 21 onwards.

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  1. TorresMagic™
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    Last Man Standing GW20 🏆

    Safety score = 45
    Top score = Ogie and Midasboys XI with 94
    LMS average = 56.69

    912 : 88 eliminated
    824 through to GW21. Up to 10% out for the next 5 GWs.
    Entry is open to those who pass the scores in the link after hits.
    http://torresmagic.webs.com/lmsupdate.htm

    An article will be out later this week as it's the last chance to enter.

    Congratulation to all the survivors 😀

    1. Kattdaddy_
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Can I still enter mate

      1. TorresMagic™
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        If you matched or bettered the 20 scores in the link.

    2. Jay_
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers, still going. Been a struggle this season but surviving this is always a good mood changer at the end of night.

      • MidasBoys XI
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Joint top

        1. TorresMagic™
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          😀

        2. Ógie
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          Well done MidasBoys XI

      • LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        -8 hurt me 🙁 out with 43
        Thanks for running TM I'll be back next season for sure 🙂

        1. TorresMagic™
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          Cheers and good luck 🙁

      • Geoff
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        I havne't paid attention to how this is tracked.

        Maybe a dumb question: what is the Total Points, how is it calculated?

        1. TorresMagic™
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          Need to have the scores in http://torresmagic.webs.com/LMS1617.png to qualify.

      • Jamin
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Knocked out GW 6 when I benched 21 & only got 23!!!
        Sailed through all other rounds ;(

        1. TorresMagic™
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          🙁

      • Conk
        • 9 Years
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        Cheers for running this tm, i really like this competition

        1. TorresMagic™
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          Glad you are enjoying it. It will get harder now.

      • Van der Faart
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        Heartbreaking. Went out in GW 13 due to a transfer hit but beaten every other week.

        1. TorresMagic™
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          I'll get you again 👿

      • RedLightning
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        7 years, 4 months ago

        Ogie also leads my January to May League, which started this game-week.
        Entry to this also remains open (243 teams currently in).

        1. MidasBoys XI
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks TM

      • Fantasy Challenged
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        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Still in the LMS by scraping through by 1 point. Must admit, after a bad GW I enjoy the anticipation to find out the safety score in this league. Thanks TM! Hoping to make it another few weeks. 🙂

      • Albrightondknight
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        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Gone.Only 40 after a hit. TM thank you very much for organizing this. Best of luck to all still in it.

      • nailedonness
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I'm going in 🙂

    3. Horlicks esq.
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      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Anyone got Iwobi starting for Arsenal in the next few gw's?

      Simple ya or neins?

      1. dogtanion
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        nope...

    4. TeddiPonza
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      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Use FT for

      A Mkhi to Alli

      Or

      B MKelly to Pieters/Ake/Friend

    5. Swanny18
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      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Eriksen or Alli?

      Stats show that Alli has much more of a goal threat but Eriksen is creating a lot more chances. Feel like I've missed the Alli hauls now, can anyone help me out?

      1. Jazz!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I'm an Eriksen owner, and I'd go Alli. That man is practically a striker. And goals > assists.

      2. dunas_dog
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        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I have Eriksen and while Alli scored 2 goals it was down to supply of Eriksen

    6. HurriKane
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Lallana owners keeping.? Next 2 home fixtures are tough but could run rampage in the away games

      MU swa CHE hul

      1. Jazz!
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        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        mu SWA*

        1. HurriKane
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          yeap. thoughts? could swap im alli for a hit

          dont want to lose hazard sanchez or eriksen

          1. Kiwivillan
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            • 10 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I'm so done with Hazard. Very itchy trigger finger

          2. Jazz!
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            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I'd keep Lallana.

      2. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        *mu away SWA home

      3. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        need to see if walcott gets brought back

      4. Netley Lucas
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Holding, but can't lose that 7.4 SV, he's going to Coutinho as and when.

      5. sully29
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        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Probably holding.

      6. FPL Virgin
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        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        The thing about Liverpool is ... they do well in the tough games

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Yep... with Mané and Coutinho, they do.

          1. FPL Virgin
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            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Cout back For the next GW

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Hope so!

      7. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Sold for Pedro to enable Giroud. Will wait and see how Liverpool adjust to life without Mané.

      8. Volley127
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        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Keeping for now but hoping to move to Coutinho soon

    7. sully29
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      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      2fts. Who should I be moving on?

      Heaton (Pickford)
      Alonso, Holebas, Pieters (Barragan, Amat)
      Sanchez, Hazard, Siggy, Lallana (Clayton)
      Ibra, Costa, Benteke

      1. potatoace
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        • 12 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Someone for tekkers

      2. MartialMatas
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        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I think Benteke should be one of them

      3. Z
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Benteke, Siggy > Wilson, Alli?

      4. Geoff
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        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Benteke > Defoe
        or
        Siggy + Benteke > Philips + Lukaku

      5. Usmanov
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Holebas

    8. MartialMatas
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      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Messed up and bottomed

      A) Mkhi and def under 5.3
      B) Pogba and def under 5.8

      Suggestions on defenders?

      Currently have Alonso Jones Pieters Amat

      1. Sharpe Shuffle
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Mkhi and McA

        1. MartialMatas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          not brunt over Mcauley? especially with nyom not going to AFCON

          1. Sharpe Shuffle
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Sure, if you prefer. Both good options!

      2. tm370
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        • 9 Years
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        Personally I'm not sold on either. I would hold off for Coutinho, who will outscore them between now and the end of the season imo. If I had to chose I would opt for Pogba, purely because I think that Mkhi will be rotated.

        Baines as the defender.

        1. MartialMatas
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          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          ok thanks

    9. Sharpe Shuffle
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      At what point in the season is it time to stop trying to aggressively build TV and focus solely on points?

      For me, that time is now. The closer we get to the end of the season, the fewer games there are to make that extra TV count

      1. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Also telling myself this.

      2. MartialMatas
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        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        What's your SV?

        1. Sharpe Shuffle
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          103.8

          1. MartialMatas
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            samesies

            1. Sharpe Shuffle
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Importantly, at this point there's not much I would do differently if I had more

      3. Jay_
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Yep I'm stopping the chasing TV now. Fully prepared to take at least a .4 drop between Haz and Alonso on the chin. The dirty work has been done.

        • fedolefan
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I have probably one of the worst team values around here (101.9). For everything I gain with Alli, I lose with Mane. For everything I gain with Ibra, I lose with Firmino. And then there's 4.9m Capoo, Williams, Defoe, Siggy who've all dropped.

          1. The Polymath
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            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Have 107.2. Hoping it counts in the DGW's.

            1. fedolefan
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              That's a Capoo to Sanchez upgrade...lol

            2. walkman666
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              • 9 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Is that TV or selling value? I have SV = 104.5 myself, and TV = 106.4.

              1. Sharpe Shuffle
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                I would assume that's TV

              2. Max City
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                How could we tell what SV we got?

                1. Sharpe Shuffle
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  In the Transfers tab, remove all the players (don't confirm transfers obviously) and see how much is in the bank

      4. liiusions
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        OR updated

      5. Ghost86
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Damn Alli is tempting would you do these moves?

        Hazard + Origi to Alli + Lukaku -8

        1. Hurricane Gilbert
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          In the same boat and I have decided to keep Hazard. Still potentially explosive with two great fixtures coming up.

          1. Max City
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            How about Hazard underlying stat, compared to Alli, Eriksen, Pogba, etc.?

      6. dogtanion
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        J Evans to be ok for next game?

      7. Kiwivillan
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        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        OR updated 17k woop

        1. Geoff
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          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Congrats 🙂

      8. Geoff
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        7 years, 4 months ago

        Has anyone posted what point scores are needed to hit top 1k 5k 10k etc?

      9. Z
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Worth a (-8)?
        Heaton Pickford
        Baines Jones Brunt Aké Amat
        Sanchez Hazard Alli Lallana Phillips
        Ibra Aguero Campbell

        1. Max City
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I'm not sure about Aguero.. I feel he's too expensive..
          And in midfield I would had Eriksen - Alli than Hazard - Alli.. but that was just me..

      10. tm370
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        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Current team: Pickford, Foster
        Alonso, Lovren, Pieters, Francis, Amat
        Sanchez, Eriksen, Lallana, Firmino, Hazard,
        Ibra, Rondon, Anichebe.

        Thinking of wildcarding to one of the following:

        A) Randolph, Grant
        Rose, Baines, Brunt, Ake, Lenihan
        Sanchez, Eriksen, Ali, Philips, Adam
        Ibra, Costa and Defoe

        B) HEATON, ROBINSON,
        Rose, Baines, Brunt, Ake, CHAMBERS
        Sanchez, Eriksen, Ali, Philips, HAZARD,
        Ibra, Defoe, BARNES

        1. Hurricane Gilbert
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I like B the most

          1. tm370
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Cheers!

            I prefer Costa to Hazard but I've had him for a while and the extra money helps the rest of the squad.

      11. Gooner97
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Play Holebas(MID) or Gibson(wat)?

        1. Geoff
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          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Ah Holebas for me

        2. tm370
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          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Holebas

        3. Gooner97
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks

        4. Max City
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I would play Gibson 😀

      12. FPL Virgin
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        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        How the hell does he do it?

        https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/2697186/event/20

        Should I just WC and copy his team 🙁

        1. Sharpe Shuffle
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Not with Zaha and Mane in there

          1. FPL Virgin
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            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            lol yeah

        2. Van der Faart
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          • 12 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          He's played TC and BB already as well

          1. FPL Virgin
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            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            He's uncatchable. Been number 1 for ages.

            1. Gnu
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              • 14 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Hardly uncatchable, lucky to finish in top1k with 2 big chips used.
              Unfortunately no previous history showing.

        3. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Probably done Mané to Alli too!

      13. AFC49
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Holebas dropping and Chambers going up tonight?

      14. OptimusBlack
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Who is best Striker to get from those ??

        A- Rondon
        B- Wilson
        C- Negrado
        They have nice Fixtures Coming I want your help to pick one of them

        1. Sharpe Shuffle
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Wilson

      15. Mr. Funny Name
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Thoughts on these moves?
        Holgate + Hazard -> Baines + Alli for a hit
        I feel like I have to do it because of the form and fixtures of Baines and Alli but at the same time I kind of think it's chasing points and also it'd leave me with no Chelsea attackers

        1. Hurricane Gilbert
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Would try to keep Haz until GW22 at least

      16. Lav
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Thinking of taking a big hit this week. Do I follow through?

        Foster Pick
        Alonso Cedric Holebas Friend Ake
        Sanchez Haz Eriksen Capoue de Roon
        Ibra Costa Rondon

      17. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Hurt with Johnny Cash is a song about FPL, right? 😉

      18. white lightning
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I wildcarded this week. Scored 84 with gw rank of 22,478. Very pleased with that.
        Now on to gw21. As I'm on a high (natural of course haha) I'm thinking of this -4 hit:
        Pieters out - Ake in &
        Allen out - Stanislas in (2 Stoke out & 2 Bou in)

        Stoke next 3 games = sun (Defoe), MU (Ibra), EVE (Lukaku)
        Bou next 3 games = hull (Snodgrass), WAT (Deeney?), CRYS (Benteke inj.)

        I can see this hit paying off. I can see no cs's for Stoke & at least 2 for Bou. Allen seems to be playing deeper & Stanislas looks very good for attacking returns in these 3 games. I even think Ake could get a goal in these 3 games.

        Will give me:
        Valdes (Foster)
        Alonso, Rose, Ake (Lovren, Jones)
        Sanchez (c), Alli, Lallana, Stanislas (Phillips)
        Ibra, Costa, Giroud

        Thoughts & thanks.

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Nicely played! I wildcarded too and scored 78. Benteke instead of Giroud my only regret.

          I brought in Stanislas on my WC and benched him, with Hull next GW in mind. He's a great pick if he comes through the FA Cup unharmed.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I wouldn't see Pieters btw, and especially not for a hit (is it to afford Stanislas?). Pieters playing as a wingback at the moment.

            1. white lightning
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I can just do Allen to Stanislas for free. I was just thinking against Hull away Ake could prosper & Stoke will struggle to keep a cs v Sun away. Am I off the mark?

          2. white lightning
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Cheers mate. Great score by you as well. I got Allen instead of Stanislas but I would of benched Stanislas like yourself.

            1. white lightning
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              oops reply fail to Twisted.

      19. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Why Alli isn't injured.. yes he had just had a knock but..

        1) He walked off having had no treatment and was subbed for his standing ovation. (He had also been booked)
        2) He went straight to the bench and sat laughing with his mates, no treatment
        3) He was walking around smiling and applauding the fans at the end with no sign of any limp
        4) He gave a happy smiley TV interview afterwards
        5) Mark has bought him already tonight 😉

      20. MidasBoys XI
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Do anybody see Coutinhio and Wally losing more value?

        1. Sharpe Shuffle
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Coutinho - not unless he has a setback in his recovery
          Walcott - yes (tonight)

      21. James101
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I wonder if there's generally a greater percentage of mascocists amongst fantasy football players than elsewhere...

        1. Jay_
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I think the word your looking for is 'schadenfreude'

            Highly relevant to FPL and particularly on here.

            1. James101
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Love that word / concept

              Good shout

          • Ayew Serious
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Is that not where people are turned on from hurting people?

            1. James101
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Sadism mate.

              1. Ayew Serious
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Ye, but I'm almost sure mascocists is fitting

                1. Sharpe Shuffle
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  Sadism is hurting others, Masochism is hurting yourself

                  1. Ayew Serious
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    I see. Thanks

        2. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Which is the better option?

          A) Alonso + Benteke
          B) Walker + Defoe - 4

          Can't get Benteke out otherwise as I have 3 WBA so can't get Rondon. Benteke possibly out for a while. Thanks.

        3. OptimusBlack
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          The Last Question and Am Gonna Sleeeep .... Choose the best please

          A- Hazard + Wilson
          B- Costa + Philips

          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            B

            1. Lav
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              This

          2. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Unless you want to rely on peno's

        4. AFC49
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Holebas > Chambers/Ake?

          1. Lav
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Yes

            1. AFC49
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Which one?

              1. Lav
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Chambers

                Look into Ake though

          2. Mr. Funny Name
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Chambers

        5. liiusions
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Any Eriksen owners getting Alli in as well?

          1. Lav
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Possibly. Either playing WC or taking huge hit

          2. Kiwivillan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I have Eriksen and Kane and looking at getting Alli as well

          3. OptimusBlack
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Yes I have Eriksen and gonna get Alli

          4. MartialMatas
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            yep