The Knee Jerk – Gameweek 22

I'm getting rid of Carrol, not great fixtures.

Depends on your rank. Im about 250k now and im getting worried.

There is no point in being patient or stubborn while your overall rank plummets

If a player is out of form blanks for 8 or 9 weeks then scores a brace it still doesn't justify holding him.

Bad FPL management

No

Doesn't seem like patience really is a virtue. Firmino scored only two double hauls in 10 weeks. Other players at that price like eriksen, Alli and even pogba produced better results. If these are not freak results, then they should happen on a regular basis, which has not been the case.

Patience has been the key for me gaining a good rank this season. I have some players locked into my team (regardless of fixtures and form). I know over time they will score well and rise in value. It then stick 3 cheap outfielders on the bench and 2 cheap keepers.

2 cheap keepers
3 cheap bench players
Brunt
Hazard
Sanchez
Eriksen
Aguero
Ibra
Defoe

All of those players have been locked into my team for at least 10 weeks (injuries/suspension dependent). None are going anywhere unless they pick up injuries or suspensions (bringing in KDB for Hazard is the only potential change). I am happy that I can soak up some poor form and when they explode they will be a differential e.g. Aguero.

Patience this season has been the key. I have knee jerked too much in previous seasons. Pick the right players to be patient with and swap the others for form and fixtures and it is the safest way to a good rank.

Holding on for 3-4 weeks is being patient, any more than that is just silly.

1 double digit haul in 10 games is not worth it.

Also Jonty what are you doing with Daniels/Stanislas? Bounemouth seem off the boil right now

I hope patience is indeed an FPL virtue and will be rewarded since my patience with Mr Benteke is wearing extremely thin!

Depends on rank to a certain degree I think. Higher ranked players will probably be more careful with transfers and show some restraint whereas lower ranked players might be less risk averse in terms of going for kneejerk transfers.

Good players will, eventually repay patients but it's whether you can afford to have that patients. The Goals/Assists imminent are good a pretty good indication as to whether you should have patients with certain players I think

KdB owner! Owned since a failed punt on new year's day and been unable to get rid since because of other injuries, so I got the points more by accident than design.... As it also looks like he did.

I'm unsure about whether he stays or goes now - city have an OK next 3, but I only own Alli as Spurs "cover" so I'd initially planned to move Eriksen in for KdB. Not so sure now!

Patience is required, however I don't think the cas of Firmino is a good one. He's only had two hauls in the last 10 and averaging around 4 PPG - quite frankly not good enough for his price tag. It remains to be seen whether or not Liverpool will get back to the form of the early season, especially without Mané.

Swansea was a freak result, yes, but I don't think the same can be said of Stoke and West Ham. Stoke have been finding the net a lot recently and are always resilient at home. Payet is the kick up the backside that West Ham have needed and I can see them doing well in the next few.

Deeney scoring, however...

problem for me is that patience isn't really closing the OR gaps for me.
My OR is up about 300k last 3 GWs but I'm making little progress on the higher ranks. 1 point closer to top 250k, 3 points further away from top 100k, extra 6 pts away from 50k

Also is there a difference between being patient with "proven" players like Siggy/KDB and being patient with the differentials Carroll/Stanislas? The differentials being the ones I really need to find quickly to close ranking gaps.

Nah , I just brought him for this game only

Really depends on the issues you think your team has.
Im at 11k overall rating and usually patient with players and hits, however you need to trust your gut and knee jerk when you see no future on some.

Carroll and Firmino both returned for me this week which makes me nervous about selling Hazard to get Sanchez in next week...

Can't sell Carroll now either on this form just have to wait till he gets injured inevitably!

I've already made my FT this GW.

I've sold Hazard for Alli, I think he's capable of matching or even bettering his points tally over the season with a hefty cash saving.

It's a similar situation with Aguero, I know he will score and get hauls but feel I can cover most of them points and reinvest the savings better in my team.

This patience is a virtue thinking is rubbish! Yes Firmy gave 14 points yesterday, but owners have had to put up with a lot of 3,2 and 1 pointers over the last 11 gws! If you'd transferred him out for somebody that had given you good points during the last 10 gws and brought him back in for this gw, then well done, otherwise you're just lazy and have been rewarded!

Patience is definitely the way forward. I've sold Firmino, Ibra, Kane and now Carroll before double figure hauls because of impatience.

Took a hit for Siggy to Lallana prior to Siggy assisting in the Palace game. He's got 16 compared to Lallana's 5 or 6, -4 since. Siggy had a heap around 5 blanks though and at the same price, Lallana definetly seemed the way forward.

Took a hit to do Firmino to Sanchez before Sanchez got a hatty at West Ham so happy with that kneejerk.

Think if you do it enough times, your always gonna have good ones and bad ones. It's a fine line but I like to take the risks, it makes the game much more fun

I don't think anyone in their right mind would have held onto Firmino for this long! Yes this Swansea fixture was appealing so getting a pool player in made sense but it's so hard to pick the right one, most picked Lallana and I don't think that was a bad decision.

I didn't pick any pool players, instead I thought Sigy to Stanislas would be a better move, Sigy didn't really deliver in his run of good fixtures, the new manager hasn't made a massive impact, so it seemed to me a sensible transfer with two good home fixtures for Stanislas. I hope Stanislas delivers next week. I will keep an eye on Swansea - is this result a freak or the start of an upturn in form?

I'm glad Carroll did well this week though like many I had planned to move him on for Lukaku or Kane. What to do now...

The only player I've been truly patient with - I prefer the word 'stubborn' - is Hazard. He has proven fantasy potential playing in a team doing well. But I am being stubborn because he hasn't delivered value this season.

Of the top 5 career HOF Ville Ronka is known for never taking a hit, this week he brought in Lallana for Allen, it didn't work out for him this week but last week he certainly benefitted from his patient approach; he waited until a few hours before the deadline to sell Costa and bring in Kane, whereas the number 2 in the career HOF had a Friday the 13th to forget taking an 8 point hit to bring in Costa only to find out later he was dropped/injured.

But even Ronka hasn't been patient all season, like pretty much all the top 5 earlier in the season when Costa finally got his 5th yellow card they immediately sold him for Ibra, who remains in all their teams. An example when kneejerking paid off! Ibra was in form and bound to rise in price, Costa bound to drop.

So both patience and kneejerking can both be a virtue, the skill is knowing when to do one or the other.

Not patience - timing.

At times this season you should have got rid of and bought back Hazard, KDB, Firmino, Ibra, Kane, Alli etc.

Both work

I think patience is something I'm lacking this season mainly due to the volatility of the market.

One of the winners of FPL stated that he prefers consistent scorers to explosive ones. Which Demel makes a good point. Who are those players that we can rely on for consistent points so we keep a solid base and then rotate the others on form/fixtures. I would say they would be

Hazard (maybe not good value so far but still consistent)
Sanchez
Ibra
Costa (till recently)
Lukaku (yes he has some drought but still scores goals over the long term)
Your top 4 defenders or FK taking ones
Alli / Eriksen
Heaton

There is a good spine in there of Heaton, 1 Top 4 defender, 1 FK or OOP defender, Alli/Eriksen, Sanchez, Ibra, Costa

Patience is good up to a certain point. I mean, 1 goal for firmino in 10 GWs or whatever is fantastic for those patient managers. Well done you got a lovely double digit haul! However, if they had knee jerked for Lallana or Phillips or Alli or Eriksen, or one of many who have out scored him in that period, then they'd be a lot happier!

People seem like they like the kudos they get for hanging onto a player who they has an explosive score when in reality they could've gotten rid for a player who would've got them a lot more points therefore leaving them with more points overall.

Seems senseless.

Well it depends on certain factors. I owned Firmino and captained him this GW and jumped from 143k to 61k in OR. But for me, the following factors kept me from transferring him out:

1) Other pressing issues in my team each gameweek
2) Never saw our fixtures take a turn for the worse
3) Coutinho's return emphasized on Firmino being back to False 9
4) He was the one of only 2 differentials from my ML Rival's attack (So I had to take this risk to take a lead over him)

If there are genuine good options available then there is no harm of getting rid (Like owning Alli or Eriksen over Firmino in all these weeks). But I had Eriksen earlier for his huge double figure hauls at home and now I own Alli so I don't see many good options available at that slot. Patience is key for players you know are going to score good overall or are part of a regularly scoring or consistent team. So holding on to players such as Pool mid, Haz/Costa, Spurs attack, Ibra, Alexis, Kaku, etc would favor you over the long term since they will end up within the top overall scorers.

Being impatient cost me dearly this gameweek. Finally sold Siggy and KDB after relative barren periods over good fixtures (both scored in what were tough looking games on paper), and a Sanchez goal and a Phillips blank felt like a gutpunch! I also benched Carroll, with Rondon, his replacement, blanking at home to Sunderland.

Sometimes you have to stand still and let the points come, rather than chase. Unfortunately for me this year, I've elected to chase when I should hold, and have held for longer in other cases and missed genuine bandwagons.

Thanks jarvish. I don't have many players. Need to start planning from now.

Cheers

4 players for me then

Thanks. 7 players, but two of those are Carroll and Evans.

5 players. I will triple up on Everton soon

Cheers Jarvish 🙂

Saved two FT for after cup draw 🙂

Only have 2 players out of those teams..not gonna wc for players from those teams and miss out on a dgw later on with better players/teams etc

It looks like the big teams will get the DGWs

Not many teams there I would put all my players in for as much as 6 GWs.

Does Amat count? 🙁

Chambers/Friend & Defoe
Snodgrass & Siggy
Baines/Coleman, Holgate & Lukaku
Daniels, Antonio & Caroll

They're the only ones I think I'd consider......

It's fair to say this would be a nightmare 🙂

Looking at the the games these teams have leading up to GW28 the only ones I would consider bringing in now are from West Brom, Everton and possibly West Ham.

I certainly wouldn't think twice about transferring out Bournemouth and Swans, particularly defenders, over next few weeks.

Is my thinking right?

Don't think I'm going to bother too much for 1 blank. Manchester United and City assets are a no go for me though since they will must likely blank twice in 3 weeks then. Same for 1 of Arsenal/Liverpool.

Brunt McAuley Coleman Phillips Stanislas
May do Ibra to Lukaku with EPL cup. Don't think it's worth loading up cause you'll be left behind with all the games after that for the sake of a few 2 pointers

Thanks Jarvish! 🙂

Thanks for this.

When a countdown champion tells you do do something, you do it!

omg, I'll have 8. What a crap team I have right now.

5 For me: Brunt, Daniels, Phillips, Stanislas, Rondon

Looking at getting Robles and Baines soon as well, looks manageable for me, but it means week 29 will be an ideal time for the Wildcard.

Burnley (ie. Heaton) owners beware - it might've been brought up already elsewhere, but I noticed Burnley have 4x away games on the trot, from GW26 to 29.

That said, blanks possible in GW26: in unlikely event of overturning Man Utds leg lead in the League Cup and in GW28: potential FA cup progress of both themselves & Liverpool)

That's gotta be worth taking into account not just for blanks but also for those relying on their home form going forward.

No transfers , got it

Thanks for this!

Wow what a motley crew of teams.

I am not going to load up on those to ruin my squad - it follows then that there will be GW's where these teams are NOT playing so the players on stronger teams will ultimately outscore them - even if it means red arrows this particular GW, in the long term it would work out better to keep stronger players no?

Thanks for this Jarvish, wish I had seen this before I made my transfer, went Hazard to Alli but may have considered Barkley a little more carefully for this GW. Currently only have 4 !

What's the chances of other games being added to this list?