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Moving Target – Joe Hart

West Ham United have confirmed the signing of Manchester City goalkeeper Joe Hart on a season-long loan, with the Hammers reportedly paying a loan fee of £4.5 million to secure the services of the England international.

Speaking about the capture, West Ham manager Slaven Bilic expressed his happiness at being able to attract a player of his pedigree to the club, while also explaining the importance of improving the level of competition in the squad:

“He is the England number one, he has great experience but, at 30-years-old, he is still in his prime as a goalkeeper and can be at the top of his game in the next few years… I said a few days ago that we wanted to sign players who are going to improve our starting eleven. But that doesn’t mean that they walk straight into the team. It means that they improve the level of competition for those places.”

The History

Hart started out at his hometown club Shrewsbury Town, making his debut in April 2004 at the age of 17.

He became the club’s first-choice goalkeeper during the 2005/06 season and was named in the PFA League Two Team of the Year before securing a move to Manchester City in the summer of 2006.

Hart took in loan spells at Tranmere Rovers and Blackpool before spending the 2009/10 campaign on a season-long loan at Premier League outfit Birmingham City, making 36 appearances.

He returned to the Etihad in the summer of 2010 ready to take the starting spot in goal and was an ever-present, keeping an impressive 18 clean sheets.

Over the next few years, Hart became a vital member of a hugely successful City side, winning two league titles in 2012 and 2014, along with two League Cups and one FA Cup.

But he immediately fell out of favour under Pep Guardiola last summer and was shipped out on a season-long loan to Italian side Torino, where he managed just five shut-outs in 36 matches, conceding 62 goals.

Hart represented England six times at U19 level before making 21 appearances for the U21s.

He was handed his senior debut in a 3-0 win over Trinidad & Tobago in June 2008 and has racked up an impressive 71 caps for his country.

The Prospects

Both Adrian and Darren Randolph shared playing time in goal for the Hammers last season, but the addition of Hart is expected to provide stability in the goalkeeping position.

Speaking about the switch to the London Stadium, Hart revealed the opportunity to play regular first-team football was the key factor behind the move:

“It’s important for me to play football and to get the opportunity to come here and play is absolutely awesome.”

With the FIFA World Cup on the horizon next summer, Hart knows he needs to be playing week in week out, with the likes of Stoke City’s Jack Butland, Burnley’s Tom Heaton and Everton’s Jordan Pickford all pushing to be England’s No 1.

He should start the season as the first-choice stopper at West Ham then, with Adrian and Randolph already the subject of speculation regarding possible exits.

Hart’s underlying statistics from the last two seasons have been pretty underwhelming, however.

He had a save rate of just 64% and made six errors which led to goals.

Adrian boasted a save rate of 71.03% over the same period, making just three errors, although Randolph was less impressive (60.32% save rate and five errors).

Hart’s statistics are certainly a concern, although a return to the Premier League could help spark an improvement.

He did also make a save every 31.15 minutes last season – considerably better than in 2015/16 with City (43.80) – and in another team expected to be battling in mid-table, his save potential should increase and further boost his appeal.

Despite enduring a difficult season last term, eventually finishing 11th, Bilic’s side still managed to keep a reasonable 10 clean sheets, with eight of those coming at home.

And in 2015/16, they produced 11 shut-outs, so the West Ham defence could prove to be a decent source of defensive returns again this season.

While Hart was originally added as a Manchester City asset and priced at 7.3 in Sky Sports, he was absent from the original Fantasy Premier League (FPL) listing.

Adrian and Randolph have both been valued at 4.5 this season, so there is surely a strong case for Hart to arrive at the same price.

That would, of course, make the England international ideal for a rotation pairing.

Watford provide a rotation partner for West Ham this season. But the Hammers’ Gameweek 2 fixture against Southampton has been reversed while the London Stadium is used for the 2017 World Athletics Championships, so they only rotate home and away for 36 of the 38 Gameweeks.

Nevertheless, a Hart/Heurelho Gomes pairing would still provide a pretty strong run of fixtures (LIV, bou/sot, BHA, HUD, wba, swa, SWA, brn, BHA, STO) during the opening months of the season.

Swansea City’s Lukasz Fabianski and West Bromwich Albion’s Ben Foster are other 4.5 goalkeepers who could work alongside Hart in a 9.0 pairing, with the pair’s fixtures generally working well in conjunction with the West Ham stopper.

While Hart’s form in Italy was slightly disappointing, he does remain an exceptional goalkeeper, and one that should boost the prospects of the Hammers’ backline.

To get a stopper of his calibre for 4.5 in FPL would represent excellent value and is likely to see him feature in many FPL squads come Gameweek 1.

Former team-mate Pablo Zabaleta has also joined over the summer, so there’s no shortage of experience at the back for West Ham, with Jose Fonte, Winston Reid and Aaron Cresswell all proven Premier League performers.

Hart looks set to move towards the top of our shopping lists providing he comes in at 4.5 then, potentially offering the cheapest route into a Hammers backline that offers a fairly reliable source of defensive returns – particularly at home.

Further Reference

Joe Hart Wikipedia

Joe Hart Transfer Markt Page

Joe Hart Best Saves 2016/17

1,641 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Russell
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Cheeky repost for a few more comments:

    Hennessey Fabianski
    Bertrand Lindelof Trippier Lascelles Rangel
    Sane Wijnaldum Mikhi Zaha RLC
    Kane Lacazette Rooney

    0.5 itb

    Appreciated!

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      RLC can on at the 75th minute today... I am thinking maybe TCarroll in for RLC. RLC is not nailed on

    2. AceKn1ght
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I like the Mkhi pick- too scared to do this myself after being burnt at the start of last season by him!

      1. Russell
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah I think he'll crack on this year and is the new Eriksen at that price (hopefully!)

        Wij is the risk for me, waiting to see their formation after all the friendlies

        1. AceKn1ght
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          My other reasoning is that I only want 1 Utd attacking player, and wouldn't want to be without Lukaku purely because of ownership....

  2. AceKn1ght
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hi all, any thoughts on this team would be appreciated!

    Foster (Myhill)
    Lindelof Cedric Trippier (4.0 4.0)
    Salah Pedro Ramsey RLC (T.Carrol)
    Kane Lukaku Jesus

    Thanks!

    1. FPLzebub
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Very risky.

      1. AceKn1ght
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        In a potentially rewarding way....?

    2. Russell
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'd try and get one 4.0 to a 4.5 defender - otherwise big risk of only having 10 players if sudden injury or drop from team.

      Presuming you're planning an early WC with that Mid? All three big players rotation threatened (a bit like mine!)

      1. AceKn1ght
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, I agree with your first point! Might look at either Mee or Dunk! Maybe Pedro--> Willian to fund that!

        And yeah, I'm only looking 4-6 gameweeks into the future with this team.. If it lasts longer than that, then brilliant! But previously I've tried holding my WC for too long and missing out on the players who are on fire... I refuse to be stubborn this year, and if my 1st team doesn't cut it, I'll be getting rid quickly haha!

    3. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      You have no rotation options. Think it's worse than me planning on a 5-3-2 to start the season.

      1. AceKn1ght
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I agree that I might need one of those 4.0 to become a 4.5... But I'll be playing an early WC- I just love the look of the front 3!

    4. Chelsea222
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I know it's two pre-season games but Lindelof looks shaky. And that was against MLS teams! Wouldn't be surprised if he rotated in at the start.

  3. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Bayern must spend hours coaching their players how and when to dive, it's shocking how often they get away with it.

    1. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Sorry not hours....weeks!

  4. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Cant wait for all the snarky i told you so's when Kane scores. Meanwhile JRod will have 2 by halftime.

  5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    so the loftus cheek bandwagon has derailed?

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes. Not likely to start

    2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes- see below - TCarroll in for me

    3. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      LOL, after Puncheon was announced as captain.

  6. Azathoth
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Why no love for Che defs?I now they are expensive,but they bring home a lot of points.

    1. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Not early on for me. Looking at GW8 before I look at CHE defense. Hard to ignore Alonso from the start with a defensive minded squad, but going to play SoS and the fixtures until things are settled.

  7. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    RLC doesn't look nailed based on today ... only a late sub.
    TCarroll is good replacement
    Any other good replacements at 4.5?

    1. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Lookman of EVE possibly. Gray at LEI with Mahrez moving to Roma. Romeu is a starter, but traditional doesn't do much.

      1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Lookman and Gray are good shouts Stephen... they both start with bad fixtures but thanks... on my list now

        1. 6thGoal
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah agreed fixtures are terrible.

  8. b91jh
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    RMT
    Foster Elliot
    Lindelof Trippier Simpson Cedric Gamez
    Alli Pogba Coutinho Philips Carroll
    Laca Lukaku King

    Pogba+Coutinho+Philips
    or
    Pedro+Coutinho+Philips
    or
    Zaha+Pedro+Pogba?

    1. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Phillips for GW1, but I would potentially move him for Ince in GW2/3. At 6.0, you have options based on good home match ups. Possibly Knockaert in GW4

  9. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    De Gea
    Kolasanic - Trippier - Cedric - Alonso
    KDB - Coutinho - Pogba - Eriksen - Ritchie
    Lacazette

    Elliot - Daniels - Fletcher - Quaner

    Can switch between 4-5-1 and 5-4-1 with Daniels / Ritchie. All players should be nailed to start and have attacking threat including from set pieces and/or penalties.

  10. smix
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A. Foster Myhill
    Lindelof Trippier Cedric
    Alli Coutinho Willian RLC Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Defoe

    B. Foster Myhill
    Lindelof Trippier Cedric
    Mkhit Coutinho Willian RLC Carroll
    Kane Jesus Lacazette

    The better option ?

    1. smix
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      *RLC / Carroll

    2. DeathoftheParty
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

    3. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

  11. mental
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A- pogba & laca
    or
    B-lukaku &ramsey

    1. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

  12. TokyoRisingSun
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Palace tried out a 343 today. Schlupp played at left wingback, and if he can cement a starting place over PVA, could be fantasy gold at 5.0.

    1. The Tinkerman
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      They were fighting over the spot towards the end last year werent they? Imagine in continues.

      1. TokyoRisingSun
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Indeed. I do hope he nails the spot though. The new formation also boosts Zaha's appeal imo

        1. The Tinkerman
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Definitely, hope they stick to it. Schlupp played left wing back for Leicester in a 352 a number of times under Pearson. He also kept Knockaert out of our team when played a bit further forward. He is a great physical specimen, very powerful, but not the most gifted decision maker. Does some very odd stuff in the attacking third... often after he has burst past a load of opposition players with his power and pace. He can do the hard part, but too often fluffs his lines afterwards and does something stupid.

        2. TooDifficuIt
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          yeah i did like zaha and thinking of getting him in my team

  13. Scotty B
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Not much love for Pedro on here.
    Any reason why?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Willian's 1.0 cheaper, and on corners. Also some free kicks.

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Maybe even pens with Hazard out. Didn't he take one in the FA Cup semi against Spurs?

    2. Agger
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I rate him!
      Many are going for Willian seeing as they'll save 1m..

  14. nkhoughton
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Who are your must haves in each position slots? For the start of the season. Whether you can afford all 4 or not

    1. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I look at ownership, so anyone over 30 TSB% I consider a template or must have player. Right now that's Kane, Lukaku, Alli and Coutinho.

      1. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Aren't you just perpetuating the template in doing that?

  15. The Tinkerman
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Forster (4.0)
    Cedric, Trippier, Kompany, Lindelof (4.5)
    Mhkitaryan, Willian, Phillips (4.5, 4.5)
    Aguero, Kane, Lacazette

    Quite like this without Kaku. Don't think I'm brave enough though.

    1. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Do you mean Foster instead of Forster?

      1. The Tinkerman
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Nope, Forster

        1. The Tinkerman
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Don't like WBA defence, but could always do it and spend the .5m somewhere else. I also like the idea of a Cedric/Bertrand double up, but not the triple with Forster!

          1. TokyoRisingSun
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Mmm I see. Good fixtures, but I'm a little wary of defensive double ups right at the start of the season.

  16. Runaway
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A) KDB + Firmino + Ramsey
    B) Coutinho + Jesus + Ince
    C) Coutinho + Aguero + 5.0 MID

    No other LIV, MCI or ARS player in the team btw.

    1. jiGGidyJ1
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. Mattias
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I currently have A

  17. Tornado
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Did laca play well today?

    1. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      ish. Should have scored but keeper saved it, but I think he could have done better with it. Starting to wonder about his being 'ice-cold' in front of goal.

  18. QuintonFortune25
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Finally decided on this first draft, thoughts?

    Foster
    Lindelof - Trippier - Cedric
    KDB - Coutinho - Willian - Ramsey
    Lukaku - Kane - JayRod

    Myhill - Carrol - Goldson - Haidara

    1. The Tinkerman
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Would JRod still be there if he hadn't scored that goal today?

      1. QuintonFortune25
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        This is my big dilemma, I have been switching between that team and a 442 with Daniels as the other defender for JayRod. The 442 would also give me a spare 0.5m by getting a 4.5 attacker.

        Ill monitor JayRod and possibly change to 442 if he doesnt perform

  19. TooDifficuIt
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    deeney as a 3rd forward?

    1. The Tinkerman
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Most nailed of the lot and has pens, so yeah.

    2. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yup, like Deeney, 10+ goals in each of the last 3 seasons. Might consider Mounie at 6.0 if you need to save 0.5. Just an option.

      1. The Tinkerman
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        He underachived last year too, arguably underpriced if they are half decent as a team this time around.

        1. 6thGoal
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Hopefully the arrival of Marco Silva improves the goal tally for Deeney, would love to see him at 17-20 goals. Improvements in the midfield could help. Still would like to see Grosicki transfer into WAT, not sure that will happen any longer.

  20. MarceloSalasManUtd97-98
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    My starting 11 so far:
    Foster, Lindelof, Cedric, Daniels, Pogba, Ince, Alli, Coutinho, Willian, Lukaku, Kane (cpt)
    The bench is the cheapest of the cheap, forgotten their names even.

    Reasoning for team, I always wildcard between week 2-5, so I am just putting out the strongest 11 I can, players with decent fixtures, some classic big hitters and one or two hopefuls. Willian is in for me because of the Hazard injury, Ince because of his pre-season goal form and Cedric and Foster for the saints fixtures.

    Anyone got any advice, tweeks I could make to potentially maximise point returns in the open month?

  21. 007 [RoboKlopp]
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Glenn Murray or Dwight Gayle?

    1. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Gayle

    2. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Mounie, save 0.5!

  22. One Man
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Any suggestions would be great, thanks.

    Forster
    Bertrand/Trippier/lindelof/Cedric.
    Coutinho/Alli/willian/Ince.
    Kane/Lacaz.

    Elliot/Gayle/RLC/Hunemeier.

    1. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Gayle is 6.5 and on the bench. Seems like too much to have sitting there.

      1. One Man
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I plan to rotate him.

        But maybe I should get rid and upgrade ince to a 8m mid.

  23. Beautiful Game
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    How does this team look?

    Foster, Elliott(Myhill if not 1st choice)
    Trippier, Lindelof, Cedric, 4.5, 4
    KDB, Mkhi, Willian, Zara, Carroll
    Kane, Lukaku, Gayle

    1. Beautiful Game
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Zara is Zaha

      1. The Tinkerman
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Decent. Zaha is one to watch for sure, keep an eye on palace formation.

  24. jon.terry.tfh
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Just watched leicester vs West brom and Liverpool vs crystal Crystal palace live at Hong Kong. Here summarize my observations:
    1. Benteke is hopeless
    2. Zaha is lively
    3. Firmino is not worth 8.5
    4. Salah would

    1. jon.terry.tfh
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      4. Salah would be a good value.
      5. West broms defence is too hyped up.

  25. TokyoRisingSun
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    People need to chill out over RLC, it's just one friendly in Hong Kong of all places.

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      It's pathetic. Everyone's an expert who knows he's not nailed on because he didn't start a meaningless friendly. He may prove not to be nailed on but it's not relevant to todays game 🙄

      1. FPL ZB
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I think it's the other way round. People didn't think he was nailed, then today happened and it hasn't swayed opinion

  26. Scotty B
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is Walcott better option and more nailed than Ramsey?

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No

  27. ponsio22
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is anyone else finding stanislas and ince very appealing, but haven't got the bottle to pull the trigger?

    1. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes, Ince is on my watchlist, almost firing him in ahead of a Chelsea Mid.

  28. Yankee Toffee
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I'm starting to feel like the front 3 has to be:

    Kane, Lukaku, and 1of Kun/Jesus/Laca

    1. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah hard to ignore any of those 3 forwards in conjunction with Kane and Lukaku, but it makes the rest of the starting XI a real challenge.

    2. Tornado
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I had that originally but then needed to fit in kdb so switched kane to fletcher and spread the wealth

  29. One Man
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone fancy Tom ince at 6m or better with willian ?

    1. makaveli123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Willian

    2. itwaswritten
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Who's that?

      1. One Man
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Huddelfield

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Ince

    3. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yup, I fancy Ince from the start, playing in GW2/3, at least that is the plan. Don't feel I will have enough budget to start with a 7.0 in my midfield, but with a 6.5 I might be able to stretch the budget to include a 7.0 to start the season. Ince rotates nicely.

  30. itwaswritten
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Why is Ramshit on sooo many teams?

    1. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Wish I knew....

    2. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      hahaha good one. I fail to see the attraction either. Maybe just cause he's a nailed Arsenal midfielder.