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The Numbers Game – Manchester City

Next up in our summer series of team-by-team analysis of the 2016/17 campaign are Manchester City.

We start by checking out the team performance levels over the previous campaign to look for any trends of improvement before assessing the Citizens’ standout individuals ahead of the 2017/18 season.

The arrival of Pep Guardiola helped the Etihad side up their points total from 66 to 78 last term, yet they finished some 15 points off the summit for the second successive campaign, claiming third position in the Spaniard’s first year in charge.

City also improved their goal tally, from 71 to 80, which was again the third best on offer, six behind Spurs at the summit.

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  1. DARE
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I just want to add something. I don't get the "cover" issue. It's about the (combination of) players who score the most points, not about cover. Let's say I pick Sané for City cover, then Jesus scores two with KDB and Aguero assisting. Useless cover.

    The only point in cover is if your player scores the points.

    Rant over. 🙂

    1. unlethal
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I think cover is more relevant defensively.

    2. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Cover is not a real thing. Just choose the players who will score the most points.

    3. NissA
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Indeed. It's about picking the right players, not just the right teams, except in the case of clean sheets as mentioned by Unlethal.

    4. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I think kun will score two and jesus and kdb assist him

    5. Diva
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Cover is weak as a concept for attackers, but more relevant for defenders.

      1. DARE
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Exactly my thoughts. In the defence it makes a whole lot more sense.

  2. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Redmond/Tadic or try and find 0.5 somewhere for Ramsay/Arnautovic?

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Tadic

    2. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Arnaut is probably leaving...

      1. FPL ZB
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        precisely

    3. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ramsey is showing well lately... might play him until he gets injured.

  3. Jake.l_8
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    If Iheanacho goes to Leciester is he a good option?

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Will be rotated between 4 forwards

  4. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I think kun will be best striker if pep plays like 3-4 last premier league matches

  5. unlethal
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Willian or Ramsey?
    Willian will be outed once Hazard is back but could be on free-kicks and has good potential overall, whilst Ramsey seems to strive in the new three-back system... Thoughts?

    1. FPL ZB
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Willian, by the time Hazard is back it might be clear who represents value for a transfer anyway

    2. b✪mber
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Awey

      1. b✪mber
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        *Ayew

      2. unlethal
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Sorry I don't comprehend 😐

    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      CHE : BUR 804 tot -225 EVE 566 lei 275 ARS 366 stk 343 MCI 279

      ARS : LEI 512 stk 221 liv -188 BOU 446 che -366 WBA 418 BRI 437

      Willian for me.

      1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Sorry to be ignorant but what do these numbers mean? I understand that positive numbers are a good matchup and negative are bad... but what does this quantity mean?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Better/Worse.

    4. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Willian

    5. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      On Willian but I may go both while Pool and other midfields sort if Ramsey continues strong preseason

  6. ROOTY7
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    1) Lukaku+ Abraham
    2) Jesus+ Gayle

    1. jimmy.floyd
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      2

    2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      2

    3. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      2

  7. Going Home
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Can I have people's thoughts on this (spent the Sturridge money after being roundly told off for considering him yesterday):

    Foster | Elliott
    Cedric | Luiz | Lindelof | Lascelles | Schindler
    Coutinho | Pogba | Tadic | Alli | RLC
    Austin | Lukaku | the Cassette

    1. Prokoptas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I wouldn't trust Austin - he's far from nailed as the top striker at Southampton right now, even if his underlying numbers are better than those of Gabbiadini. I'd find the money and upgrade him to one of the King/Defoe/Benteke/Firmino tier of strikers.

  8. Jake.l_8
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Who do people think will start better? Alli or Eriksen?

    1. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Alli

  9. Gabbiadini
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Foster | Elliott
    Lindelof | Trippier | Cedric | Daniels | Rangel
    Alli | Ramsey | ??? | RLC | Carroll
    Lukaku | Kane | ???

    1. Jesus and Tadic/Redmond/6.5
    2. Firmino and Sane
    3. Aguero and Ward Prowse
    4. Austin and KDB

    Or something else... 17.0 to spend (4-3-3).

    1. Carlton P
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Look below...almost same team!!
      Like 2 in terms of coverage

    2. The Wizard of Ozil
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      2

  10. Carlton P
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    3rd RMT of the season. Not changed much
    Foster Elliott
    Trippier Lindelof Daniels Cedric 4.5
    Alli Mane Ritchie?? RLC Carrol
    Kane Lukaku Defoe
    Really unsure on Ritchie..may go Stanislas

    1. Ode
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ritchie is a great pick, he's on penalties, corners and freekicks and can be a threat otherwise also. Atleast better than Stanislas i'd say

      1. Carlton P
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thats what I was thinking and not keen on bourn double up
        Considering downgrading mane and upping Ritchie to willian until a 6.0 mid prevails

      2. Splatter\\\'s Omerta
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Stanislas scored 5.1 PPG lasy season, the highest of any MID even tho was hampered by injiry. Surely that should be considered if he is fit and a regular starter.

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Long or Rangel could be starters at 4.0 going one of them could allow you to go that ? you currently have in midfield > redmond or tadic

      1. FPL ZB
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Can't see them starting

  11. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Has it actually been proven that rotating GKs (like a Fabianski / Foster combo) generally outscores an elite GK who you stick with (like a De Gea / Elliot combo)?

    The way I see it is you are looking for a squad of 12 / 13 playing players (depending on the rotating GK choice - 12 if not rotating, 13 if rotating) with two duds (e.g. 4.0m def, 4.5m mid or 4.5m fwd) who warm the bench, use little budget and are at low risk of falling in price.

    1. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I haven't counted but it generally works out well. Cost saving too

  12. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    3rd Strikers at 6-6.5: who do you like early on?:
    Gayle
    Austin
    Deeney
    Jay Rod
    Mounie

    1. Corona Macallan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Gayle

    2. Ode
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Would be Austin but he might not play, so either Gayle or Deeney.

    3. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Deeney. Fully nailed and on pens

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        What is this Deeney thing? 😀

        1. Emiliano Sala
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          He isn't? 😀

          1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Watford have good early fixtures

    4. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Reckon Gayle will shine this season.

    5. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No Mounie or Jay Rod love!
      Gayle > Deeney > Austin
      Cheers mates!

  13. Forever mirin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I know Conte loves him but what are your thoughts on Willian ousting Pedro from the starting 11 when Haz is back?

    I believe he will, and this is my reasoning:

    - Lost his place when his mother died. Did not return to his usual selfall season which is understandable when coping with a loss like that
    - Imo Willian is the better player on most accounts. Was CFC's best player for close to two years. Can do almost everything and offer more than Pedro.
    - Pedro productivity seemed to be fairly high last year. I would argue he's not able to sustain it.
    - Pedro has turned 30 which is usually a bad thing for explosive players like him.

    1. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      First wait and see what happens. Maybe one gets injured

  14. Henryyy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Ya think Fraser is nailed on?

  15. Red Wasabi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Which CPL - BOU mid pairing would start?

    A. Defoe / Stanislas
    B. Benteke / Townsend

    1. Red Wasabi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Fwd / Mid

    2. Sjaugen
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Benteke and Stannis

  16. Bobby_Styles
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hello,

    I was wondering if someone could guide me to a list of all players on the FPL site? Thank you in advance for any and all help!

    Cheers,

    1. happilyworking
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      fantasy.premierleague.com/player-list

      1. Bobby_Styles
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Post thank you too!

  17. Gabbiadini
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Will those with Lukau offload him if United resign Zlatan?

    1. HUMAN TRIPOD
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Nah Zlat out until Dec/Jan?

    2. Jake.l_8
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      yes

    3. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      That wont happen until December minimum when United's fixtures turn

    4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes I will!

  18. HUMAN TRIPOD
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on 4-3-3 team?

    Forster Elliot
    Valencia Trippier Cedric Dawson Mee
    Ramsay De Bruyne Stanislas Loftus-Cheek Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Firmino

    Cheers!

    1. Carlton P
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Like it a lot

    2. Ode
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Really good

    3. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Weak mid

      1. HUMAN TRIPOD
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        yeah only playing 3 though, played about with Lindlelof instead of Val to give extra 1m to mid

    4. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Valencia isn't good value, switch for Lindelof and upgrade Stanislas to Willian.

      1. HUMAN TRIPOD
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        like it

  19. Wings Fan
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Ok, I now can't bring myself to drop any of Lacazette, Kane, Lukaku, Alli or Sane... is the rest of the team too weak? Particularly 3rd/4th mids?

    Foster

    Cedric - Dawson - Ake

    Sane - Alli - Mooy - Fraser

    Lacazette - Lukaku - Kane
    -----------------------------------------
    Myhill - Carroll - Lascelles - 4.0

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I currently have Sane sitting in my side, could you justify me picking him please, bit of an amatuer I am.

    2. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Those front 3 can easily disrupt the balance of the team...
      Lacazette is great player but I easily persuaded myself to start without...see how it pens out...easy to bring him in if he hits ground running. Not easy to restore balance of whole team with 2 transfers though...imo...

      1. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Your strikeforce makes the midfield too weak - I'd drop Laca. He is more of a risk - he is slight, new to the league, and perhaps less central than Lukaku or Kane if Sanchez stays.

        Personally, I'd move to a 4 at the back and upgrade the midfield. It's difficult to have balance with Lukaku and Kane - it's impossible imo with 3 big hitting strikers.

    3. Assisting the assister
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yep agree - this year I think the key is a balanced side. Too greedy up front. Would drop Laca and upgrade mids.

    4. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      That strike force is awesome, and nailed top scoring strikers. Personally if your happy with this team I see no reason to change it. Personally I've chosen Daniels over Ake, but I like this team.

      I've also gone with Ali & Kane.

    5. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Prefer:

      Fabianski - (Nordfeldt)
      Cedric - Daniels - Dawson - Dann - (Rosenior)
      Sane - Alli - Ritchie - (Carroll) - (Chalobah)
      Lacazette - Lukaku - Kane

      Fabianski in goal for save points.

  20. payetisgod
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hi,

    Changed so much already and will no doubt change it again but hows this for now.

    Foster/Elliot
    Lindelof, Stephens/Cedric, Dunk, 4m 4m
    Willian, Ali, KDB, Ramsey, Carroll
    Kane, Lukaku, Gayle

    Thanks

    1. HUMAN TRIPOD
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Like that - i'd try to get one of your 4m defenders to a 4.5m though (not any starters yet?)
      Do people think going Alli and Kane is too much invested in spurs?

      1. payetisgod
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks mate, yep that is a concern for me also. Just not sure where to get it from.

        Any idea on who'd you pick between Stephens and Cedric? Had cedric last season and ive got a bit sick of getting burned with him being rested every other week!

        1. The Head-Ake
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I would downgrade to Coutinho and use the money to invest in defense.

          1. payetisgod
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Ali to couthino or KDB?

        2. HUMAN TRIPOD
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Cedric - bit more attacking and Martina has gone so a bit less cover. I also got burned at the start of last season with him

          1. payetisgod
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            nice one, cheers for the advice.

  21. socho
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I think I finally got my team for the first few weeks.

    Ryan (Elliott)
    Milner Alonso Trippier Dawson (Mariappa)
    Mikhtaryan Sane Zaha (Mooy Carroll)
    Gabbiadini Kane Lacazette

    I might replace Gabbiadini with Willian somehow. Thoughts?

  22. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    BREAKING NEWS: Manchester air traffic controllers confirmed that a private jet from Nice has landed in Manchester from minutes..

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Welcome Mendy

    2. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Holding DM?

    3. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Have inside man in Manchester ATC?

    4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Turns out it's Balotelli

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I hope not

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          😉

  23. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I have Sane but starting to worry that he won't justify the price.

    Dilution of returns will be very strong, and he doesn't attract BAPs.

    1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Pep rotation fear has us all....I can't imagine a world without City in my team though so just bite the sky blue bullet

    2. GE
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Kdb more nailed

  24. Carlton P
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A) willian + sane
    B) mane + 6.0 ritchie

  25. bojack
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I wonder if Stanislas is a guaranteed starter at Dean Court (is it still called that :-)).

    6.0 seems very reasonable to me.

    1. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Same, I'd get him fosure if he's nailed.

    2. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Vitality Stadium (Brutal name indeed)

  26. teddy.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hey kids,

    Here's my current XV:

    Foster Gomes
    Alonso Milner Cedric Mee Francis
    Ramsey Tadic Redmond RLC Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Lacazette

    So... heavy front line, solid defence, lightweight midfield.

    Plan is not to miss out on one of those front three scoring big early doors, and then be able to transfer out whoever is underperforming in gw2 in order to upgrade whichever of my budget midfielders isn't delivering and get in whoever looks good in the City / Liverpool / Chelsea / United / Arsenal / Spurs mids.

    1. Sjaugen
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Well, it's a plan... Alonso and Milners seems a tad much regardless of your plan

      1. teddy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        If they were midfielders though, they'd kind of be obvious choices - Alonso with certainty of starts in a Chelsea team and good attacking returns last time out, Milner with penalties. They're that much better as defenders. Difficult to look past them in that sense.

    2. HUMAN TRIPOD
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Hard to look past Trippier at 5.5m. Maybe for Milner

      1. teddy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I hate having a Spurs defender in my team. Reckon their form will revert to the mean this season.

  27. Punk of Personality
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hey,

    What does everyone think of this lot?

    Foster

    Cedric Trips Lindelof

    Coutinho Willian Alli Phillips

    Lukaku Aguero Benteke

    Elliot Francis Carroll Rangel

    Is there any reason why many people aren't going for Aguero? Seems like a no brainer to me, I don't see City not starting the best striker in the league?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Lol Aguero was benched last season so he deffs doesn't always start

    2. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      They didn't last season, what assures you?

      1. Punk of Personality
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        He was only benched when he was coming back from injury or during DGW. And Pep was playing Jesus out wide last couple of games of the season with Aguero up top.

        1. Waxys
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Meh for 1m less you can get Jesus who had better point returns when he played and is a guranteed starter

    3. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Kun is the man.

  28. K-win
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    For anyone questioning Defoe, just look at the penalty awards from last season...

    - Sunderland had 5 awarded and scored 5.
    - Bournemouth had the most penalty awards of any team in 10.

    http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Premier_League_Penalty_Statistics.html

    Huge potential for Defoe at Bournemouth.

    1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Very nice work.

      1. K-win
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks, he's now nailed in my team. He always does well, and I usually underestimate him.

        I was looking for a set piece taker for 6.5m in midfield. Any ideas?

  29. LAMB TEA
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    why no one pick stanislas?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He's meh

    2. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      For .5 less I get Herrera

      1. The Head-Ake
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Not nailed I presume

        1. Waxys
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          That too

  30. HALFSPACE
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Lascelles or Yedlin?