Saturday Dugout Discussion – Gameweek 5

We start Gameweek 5 at the Liberty Stadium, as Michael Laudrup’s Swansea host Everton. The Dugout Discussion is open, so come in and follow all the day’s action amongst fellow fantasy football managers. The team news is in and there’s one or two surprises…

Swansea XI: Vorm, Rangel, Tate, Williams, Davies, Ki, de Guzman, Michu, Hernandez, Routledge, Graham.
Everton XI: Howard, Neville, Heitinga, Jagielka, Baines, Osman, Pienaar, Coleman, Fellaini, Mirallas, Anichebe.

Following their defeat at Aston Villa last time out, Nathan Dyer and Leon Britton drop to the bench with Ki Sung Yueng and Pablo Hernandez coming in.

Having scored on Monday night against Newcastle, Victor Anichebe earns a starting berth, replacing the injured Nikica Jelavic.

There’s another five Premier League fixtures to enjoy after Swansea and Everton do battle – so plenty of fantasy points on offer all round. The Dugout Discussion chatroom is the place to see them roll in, which can be accessed right here.

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Rivaldo
11 years, 9 months ago
Just let the deluded people who dont know the rules keep thinking that he will get an assist. It's actually amusing.
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1. Feanor
  11 years, 9 months ago
  From a couple posts down: according to rules only a touch outside the box from the defending team can negate an assist
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2. Les Bleus
  11 years, 9 months ago
  So you don't have Pienaar then. Typical.
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3. Simon69
  11 years, 9 months ago
  You're sh*t Rivaldo
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4. Jonah
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Touches have to be outside the box to take away an assist. Its directly implied in the rules, and anone whose been watching FPL knows that's how it's done.
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som3awy
11 years, 9 months ago
Everton doubled their advantage just before the interval, Mirallas scoring from close-range with a header after his initial effort had been saved.

I don't think Pienaar will get the assist :/
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1. Gobigorgohome
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Yes, exactly what I think.
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halnone
11 years, 9 months ago
did Howard save the initial shot?
if so, according to the rules it's not a pienaar assist?
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1. Gobigorgohome
  11 years, 9 months ago
  You mean Vorm? Then Yes, Vorm saved it. So no assist given!
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  1. halnone
    11 years, 9 months ago
    lol yes I mean Vorm
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2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
  11 years, 9 months ago
  yes but sterling passed to suarez it hit a DEFENDER then rebounded back to suarez who scored
  
  this time pienaar passed mirallas shot it hit the bar and mirallas scored
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  1. Nighthawk
    11 years, 9 months ago
    No. Vorm saved the shot.
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3. Namtab Nomolos
  11 years, 9 months ago
  No according to rules only a touch outside the box from the defending team can negate an assist
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  1. thetinkerman
    11 years, 9 months ago
    This.
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4. Elniñorules
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Ah right, no wonder.
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5. Pinoche
  11 years, 9 months ago
  My point exactly!
  First shot was saved by Vorm.
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  1. Jonah
    11 years, 9 months ago
    READ THE RULES. That touch is inside the box, hence is irrelevent.
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FantasyFreak
11 years, 9 months ago
I have Torres, Rangel, Dyer, Noble Guthrie.
Who needs to go out first?
Have 2.6 in bank.

Really tempted by Baines and Pienaar now.
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1. Shaps
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Dyer to Pie
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2. FantasyFreak
  11 years, 9 months ago
  I am planning to wildcard in the coming international break which is 2 weeks away.
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Lateriser 12
11 years, 9 months ago
Here's the link.

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/rules/

Start emailing! (Bottom of the page)
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Oldman Unathletic
11 years, 9 months ago
just seen the crouch handball lol
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Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
11 years, 9 months ago
So ... Laudrup has made his first serious whoopsy ... !
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1. Ginkapo FPL
  11 years, 9 months ago
  He played Tate last week too
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  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
    11 years, 9 months ago
    True. But this is a major strategic blunder, imo. Also, Moyes appears to have seen it coming ...
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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Moyes was the first manager to properly break Swansea at home last season. He's just too good at breaking one style teams, swansea dont have a back up plan and Moyes will destroy them.
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Phaze 1
11 years, 9 months ago
WTF?? How can all you guys who spend their lives on this site not understand the rules of FPL? its 100% an assist and it will be add at some point this weekend.
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1. Bendy Busdriver
  11 years, 9 months ago
  srsly
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Gregor
11 years, 9 months ago
The assist rules are clearly bloody stupid.
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1. thetinkerman
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Now that's a different kettle of fish!
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Park the bus
11 years, 9 months ago
if Sterling got an assist last week, this should also stand. He set up a shot which was blocked, then Suarez stuck in the rebound. This week it was simply the cross bar blocking the initial shot instead of a defender.

Should definitely stand.

Coupled with fact RVP got an assist last year for an identical goal at QPR where Walcott hit post and put in the rebound.
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1. BR
  11 years, 9 months ago
  I vaguely remembered that RVP/Walcott incident as well
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⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
11 years, 9 months ago
sterling assist last week hit the defender first, if that is assist then this one is surely assist
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1. Bendy Busdriver
  11 years, 9 months ago
  ya now lets move on
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2. Mulder
  11 years, 9 months ago
  I'm not sure I understand, can you write some more posts about it?
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  1. King Eric, in America
    11 years, 9 months ago
    😀
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3. Nighthawk
  11 years, 9 months ago
  No. Vorm saved the shot. Completely different situation. There was no rebound here.
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  1. Gobigorgohome
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Yes, I think you are right.
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4. JK - Cønt ⭐
  11 years, 9 months ago
  no, I don't think Suarez touched the ball from the initial shot, I think the defender got the touch before he made contact.
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  1. Gobigorgohome
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Yes, it is the difference.
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5. Somalion
  11 years, 9 months ago
  It is 3 points. That is all. Calm down and stop going on about it.
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  1. Park the bus
    11 years, 9 months ago
    clearly a novice. this could mean a lot in peoples head to head leagues.
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Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
11 years, 9 months ago
Kind of hoping Pienaar doesn't get the assist as he's first sub for me.
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1. Lord Flashheart
  11 years, 9 months ago
  +1
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Ginkapo FPL
11 years, 9 months ago
Please drop it guys. If your 3 pts away from winning fpl at the season then I shall give you £500 in compensation.
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1. Bøwstring The Carp
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Bookmarked 😉
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  1. Ginkapo FPL
    11 years, 9 months ago
    If anyone looks close at the end of the season a few cheap bets based on their team will raise £500, or more likely fail along with their team
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2. Ginkapo FPL
  11 years, 9 months ago
  *end of the season
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3. dogtanion
  11 years, 9 months ago
  +1. They need to get over it.
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Captain Shirokov
11 years, 9 months ago
EVERYBODY SHUT UP ABOUT THE ASSIST.

Ta.
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1. blue cheese
  11 years, 9 months ago
  +42! This had to come at HT too. 😡
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2. Elniñorules
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Did Wayne Rooney get the assist then?
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  1. Captain Shirokov
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Yes.
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  2. thetinkerman
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Ha ha nice.
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Acquafresca
11 years, 9 months ago
Anyone know why Dyer didn't start?

Just dropped or is there further concern?
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1. emperikal
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Just dropped. They'll have 3 players battling for those 2 positions week in and week out making Michu probably the best bet for Swansea MF
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Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
11 years, 9 months ago
May I assist in this assist discussion? 😀
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1. Ginkapo FPL
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Looks like it Bemba rebounded it off the bar before Menly got a touch and so no you cant assist in this assist discussion
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Lion-O
11 years, 9 months ago
The scoring player can take a few touches before scoring, and it will still be an assist, so Mirallas didn't assist himself.

Also, the rules state: If after this touch, an opposing player touches the ball OUTSIDE THE PENALTY AREA altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is given, except if this intervention directly results in an own goal.

Vorm was obviously inside the penalty area. So it is a Pienaar assist.
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1. Mulder
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Vorm was outside the penalty area molesting the ball before Mirallas scored.
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2. Djerbil
  11 years, 9 months ago
  There was a deflection from a Swansea defender outside THE BOX.. But If its not an assist due to that, its Bollocks
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3. som3awy
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Here's hoping.
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4. Pinoche
  11 years, 9 months ago
  He saved the initial shot!
  No assist for Pienaar.
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⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
11 years, 9 months ago
the assist rule is like the offside rule the officials do not understand it
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1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Thats enough its 3 measly points at the end of the day.
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  1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    11 years, 9 months ago
    i'm guessing you do not have him
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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Nope and even if I did three points will not define a gameweek let alone a season.
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      1. som3awy
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Every point makes a difference.
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  2. boc610
    11 years, 9 months ago
    in fairness that can be the difference between a red and a green arrow...
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2. Simon69
  11 years, 9 months ago
  What a stupid post.
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Philman
11 years, 9 months ago
Um, I am a Pienaar owner, and I have to say the cross actually touches a Swansea player outside the box on its way across. A slight deflection. Therefore no assist :o(
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1. Philman
  11 years, 9 months ago
  That was meant to be a sad face!!
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2. Djerbil
  11 years, 9 months ago
  ^This.. but its a Crap system bcoz there was no deviation after the touch..
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Oldman Unathletic
11 years, 9 months ago
rooney assist
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1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Once upon a time ... 😀
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FORCA INTER
11 years, 9 months ago
i am actually happy cause pinaar didnt rewardedwith assist

does anyone actaually emailing fpl towers over this?
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1. Elniñorules
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Most people are alive cos it's illegal to shoot them. Be different, Forca. 😉
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2. blue cheese
  11 years, 9 months ago
  LOL.
  
  He'll get it, man!
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@BigChrisso
11 years, 9 months ago
Moyes giving Laudrup as managerial lesson today. You can only hope that Laudrup can swallow his pride and get Dyer in from the 46th minute.

Graham has been starved of quality supply and looks likely to be shipped from my squad for Berbs next GW.
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1. @BigChrisso
  11 years, 9 months ago
  AND he has. 3-2 Swansea coming up
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  1. @BigChrisso
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Dyer fail
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denial
11 years, 9 months ago
Oh an assist 'debate.' Wonderful.
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Djerbil
11 years, 9 months ago
Does anyone know How Pablo Hernandez looks like?? I could not spot him during the match
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Acquafresca
11 years, 9 months ago
You guys are ridiculous. Im off for now.
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1. blue cheese
  11 years, 9 months ago
  3 pages of utter crap! 😆
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  1. Mulder
    11 years, 9 months ago
    3 points = 3 pages of discussion
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  2. emperikal
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Ugh...
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2. Lateriser 12
  11 years, 9 months ago
  No No.
  
  Start emailing
  
  http://fantasy.premierleague.com/rules/
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  1. blue cheese
    11 years, 9 months ago
    They'll award it. Chill. Geez!
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    1. Lateriser 12
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Uhm, understand the sarcasm will ya?!
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  2. FORCA INTER
    11 years, 9 months ago
    wthats wrong with you?
    
    i'll email them and tell them to not listen people lie you
    
    cross actually touches a Swansea player outside the box on its way across. A slight deflection
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3. Captain Shirokov
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Know how you feel.
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4. Elniñorules
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Why so serious?
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⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
11 years, 9 months ago
people saying "oh it's only worth 3 points" are obviously ones without pienaar

assist can also mean bonus points plus how you know we not captain him.
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1. Somalion
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Shame. I used to think you were alright.
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  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
    11 years, 9 months ago
    He is alright. 😕
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Pinoche
11 years, 9 months ago
Looks like nobody has Mirallas..
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⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
11 years, 9 months ago
hernandez off dyer on
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Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
11 years, 9 months ago
Is it a pienaar assist? Ahhhh WERE ALL GONNA DIE AHHHHHHHH
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1966 was a great year for E…
11 years, 9 months ago
After Pienaar crossed it, Howard and Mirallas could have acted out the Nike airport ad inside the box and it would still be a Pienaar assist.
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1. Captain Shirokov
  11 years, 9 months ago
  😆
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2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
  11 years, 9 months ago
  I love this comment. 🙂
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3. Mull
  11 years, 9 months ago
  😀
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4. Tuchap - Lurker
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Actually made me lol 😀
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