Dugout Discussion

The Dugout Discussion – Swansea Vs Man City

We’ve a full ten fixtures to absorb this afternoon as 2014 kicks off with a bang. With many Fantasy managers already considering the winter wildcard, there’s much on our minds right now – it remains to be seen if today’s action is set to hand us a new bandwagon or two to force our hand.

We begin with a lunchtime encounter at the Liberty Stadium as Swansea play host to City. Manuel Pellegrini’s men go in search of a fifth straight win but are devoid of the talents of David Silva, after a needless booking against Palace in the closing stages of Saturday’s clash. The Swans approach this fixture in abject form – without a win in five and with just four goals to their name in that same spell. City will fancy their chances.

The teamsheets show a long list of predictable changes from Pellegrini as Pablo Zabaleta, Aleks Kolarov, Yaya Toure, Samir Nasri and Alvaro Negredo all make returns having missed out on the starting XI against Palace. David Silva’s absence seems to have handed Edin Dzeko a stay of execution – he retains his start up front in a 4-4-2. As for Swansea, Michael Laudrup makes two changes with Angel Rangel and Wayne Routledge drafted in for Dwight Tiendalli and Roland Lamah who both drop to the bench.

As always, we’ve opened up our Dugout Discussion chatroom for a day that promises points aplenty.

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  1. copps
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I wish zabaletas first name was wayne or romelu. Robbed of an assist 🙁

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    1. super zlatan
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      🙂

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    2. @persecuted_by_mods
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Robbed how? He was clearly tackled, why should that be an assist?

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        1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          He passed the ball to yaya, came off a swansea player. Intended destination was Yaya. THerefore assist under fpl rules

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          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Didn't look like a pass to me, looked like he just tried to control it in the general direction of Yaya

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              1. The Enlightener
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                I understand the confusion, as FPL awards all kinds of jammy assists. Like Adebayor's second one last gameweek. I played Fantasy MLS for the first time this past season, and they only award assists when a guy actually means to pass a ball to a guy. It kind of bothered me at first, but in the long run, it was probably a better system in those regards.

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                1. @persecuted_by_mods
                    10 years, 5 months ago

                    True it can be random at times and I've been negatively affected by it and I have profited from it but in this case I see no Zab assist- the main point is that Canas' tackle on him sent the ball in the opposite direction of where Zab's first touch took it

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        2. nevins84
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Any word on rooney need him to be out to have any hope in my cup game??

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          1. Fantasy Football Friend!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            What if he plays and gets 0 pts, are you still fooked?

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        3. Chris_White
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Very nice stats from Bony this game...might be a viable WC option

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          1. Jebiga
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            he is a great player !

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          2. FPL Touches
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Deffo

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          3. Qubit
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            He is a good striker, his stats are usually easily up there with Lukaku etc. I got him in in wk12 and he promptly got injured, i maintain he would have scored well in that period had he not. Definitely an option going forward.

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        4. JWF
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Oscar>Navas at 11:29 this morning looking like it gained me 1pt. Winning.

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        5. super zlatan
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Goal and a cleanie please Joel Ward

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          1. Gaz Downright
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            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Norwich-Palace 0-0 please

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            1. Jax
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Norwich have 2 clean sheets in a row away

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          2. Henry Hill
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Not asking for a lot are you Zlatan 😉

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        6. denial
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          YaYa is giving me the right hump.

          Ruined 2014.

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          1. spartannn
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Look at the bright side. Will go up to 60% ownership now, and while others are spending 10m on a mid, you get to upgrade forwards/mids and sit back and enjoy every GW Yaya blanks. At 10m you have to score/assist in every game to make up for it. Wally/Silva/Haz are too powerful.

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        7. Sting
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          RMWCT

          Mannone Davis

          Coleman Kosc Baker Chester Ward

          Walcott Hazard Silva Yaya Redmond

          Rooney Lukaku Suarez

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          1. rvp786
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            very nice. whats your team value?

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            1. Sting
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              110.4m

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          2. Jebiga
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            amazing team

            maybe better keeper

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          3. super zlatan
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Sexy as fook. I like it

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        8. Texas Pete
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Potential striker for negredo...

          Remy?
          Lukaku?
          Soldado?
          Welbeck?

          Any other thoughts?

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          1. super zlatan
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Welbeck

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          2. Eboue
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I got podolski this week. If giroud is out for a while I may keep him - nice fixtures and clinical.

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            1. rvp786
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              bony. just had a look at his fixtures. tasty

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            2. Texas Pete
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Cheers guys. Might just hang on and see how pod plays before making a decision.

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          3. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Giroud

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        9. Kerrazy
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          what a fecking bollocks. ill think twice before actually doing what people says. did -4 for Gerrard for nothing really.

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          1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            first rule, don't do what people says. I have learned this the hard way. Consider advice but make your own decisions

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          2. FPL Touches
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            It was always a risky move, at least he will probably start the next game 🙂

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          3. OPTA FPL
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            ...

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          4. FACUPARSE
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Your own fault.

            So many donkey's on here

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          5. Valar(Keith)
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            lol.. i came on here asking bout Gerrard. took everyone's opinions and decided not to do silva to gerrard -4 cause there was a small chance he would not make it(Christina etc had reservations) and advised caution to you too. Dint hold a gun to your head 🙂

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        10. pezzerman
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Theo,, make my captain dreams come true...It's on!

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        11. Judas
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Best defenders to get in WC? Which teams have best lineup of fixtures

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          1. JWF
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Mert, Coleman and a Palace player.

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            1. BeachBadger
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Agreed .Pool defender if they can get their act together too

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          2. FPL Touches
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Koflok did a great post about this the other day, go on his profile and find it

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        12. BeachBadger
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          6 changes to Chelsea. Hazard still there. Had me worried for a minute

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        13. Pedram
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          The myth that Yaya plays deep so he doesn't get many chances must be dispelled.

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        14. I-Taught-Danny-Welbeck-How-…
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          No Yaya and gunna continue. He has annoyed me too much to get in

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          1. Sean.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Glad i kept Silva and a free transfer 😉

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          2. Big_Andy_GAWA
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Ditto!

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        15. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I'm so hung over I just ate a cornish pasty and didn't notice that it was actually chicken and ham until I saw the wrapper afterwards 😐

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          1. Gaz Downright
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            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            😆

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          2. low-life
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Hah hah

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            1. Big_Andy_GAWA
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              😆 What did you think it was? Were you just oblivious to what it was 'cos of your state? 🙂

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        16. applebonkers
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          ok, after another look zabaleta controls the ball, then before he can do something else with it the swansea player pokes the ball away from him. the ball then ends up at yaya's feet and the rest is history. at no point does zabaleta make a pass. also as the deflection wasn't from a zabaleta shot its not an assist under current rules and precedants

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          1. JWF
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Boooo

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          2. @persecuted_by_mods
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Exactly, it didn't even need a second look. Sometimes people on here can be embarrassing

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            • Breadbin
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              This was obvious, unless the posters claiming an assist are stupid/biased or both.

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            • Mílanista
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Thanks AB.

              There should be sticky posts like this more often whenever there's one of these silly assist debates.

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            • El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Wrong

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEDYQ-wmpw4

              he definatly passes the ball to Yaya. in the first replay and it came off the swansea player but still ended up at yaya

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            • Perthite
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              And it looks like Swansea touch outside the penalty box.

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          3. BONZ
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            So BT Sport hogging the majority of the live football again today??

            Sky 🙁

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            1. I-Taught-Danny-Welbeck-How-…
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Sky on their last knees

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              1. Fantasy Football Friend!
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Last knees? I'm having that 😀

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            2. Jax
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Sky had Swansea game

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            3. Breadbin
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Good marketing ploy to get customers over Christmas, it'll tail off. They don't have shed loads of games.

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              1. Big_Andy_GAWA
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Not worth the 10 or 12 quid extra per month, IMO. Not a fan of their commentary panel etc., either...

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          4. boredjames
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Looking like Ravel's West Ham days are over

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            1. Henry Hill
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              What has he done now, stabbed Big Sam or something?

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              1. boredjames
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Think they are going to cash in. He is a wrong-un though, cant help feeling he is always going to be trouble.

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                1. Henry Hill
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  He's a lowlife, West Ham are struggling badly so should probably put up with him for now though.

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            2. MJ6987
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              He's off to either United or HM Something, if the rumours are to be believed. Allegedly.

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              1. pezzerman
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                so what are the actual rumours..Ive kept him in my squad as only bought him at 4.4 so he's just been sitting on the bench causing no offense

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          5. MJ6987
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Did someone say the Liverpool game has been called off?

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            1. Wild Rover
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Yeovil

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              1. MJ6987
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                I'm sure someone said Liverpool earlier unless I'm imagining things.

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                1. Wild Rover
                  • 13 Years
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  They did, they misheard Yeovil

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                  1. MJ6987
                    • 13 Years
                    10 years, 5 months ago

                    Lol

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          6. dr. Phil
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            which game are you guys going to watch?

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            1. Gaz Downright
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              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Soton-Chelsea ... Soton plays good football

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          7. super zlatan
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            So glad I never boarded the negredo train

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            1. Chris_White
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              This

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            2. FPL Touches
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Ah well, at least I made some money! 🙂

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          8. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            United line ups anyone

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            1. Chris_White
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Not before 4.30

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            2. JWF
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Couple of hours to go.

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            3. Jax
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Game on at 5.30

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          9. Psakhotherapy
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Am I right in thinking the only people who benefitted from Bony's points today are FFS members who've been in a coma since August?

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            1. pezzerman
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              non-yaya owners as well whose chances of bonus were quashed by the late goal

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          10. - DC -
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Silva to Yaya with the FT? Gotta be done tonight as I have £0.8 in the bank and Yaya costs £10m. Perhaps thats a sign having just the right amount to do it?

            He is the second most owned player in the game, he continues to hurt those without week in week out. Its the Ramsey thing all over again. Its boring. But its getting to the point where you have to cover yourself. Sad but true.

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            1. - DC -
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Surely its got the point this seasons where you just get all the high ownership players in and then use the rest of the team slots for differentials and consistent players?

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            2. rvp786
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              no prefer silva

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            3. Chris_White
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Err. No.

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          11. _Ninja_
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Is a gabbidon goal, assist, cleanie and 3 baps too much to ask for?

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            1. Moin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              I wouldn't mind this!!!

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            2. Chris_White
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Probably

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            3. pezzerman
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              he will be stuck on my bench so rest assured he will get cleanie and at least 2 bonus..Only comes on for me when he scores an own goal etc

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          12. King Kohli
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Negredo ---> Soldado or Ade?

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            1. Chris_White
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              No

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            2. Breadbin
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Calm down, he'll come good. Keep.

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            3. Jebiga
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              adeba looks like beautiful replacement

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            4. FPL Touches
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Wait till the games have been played mate

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          13. jas5sk - Youtube channel
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Where are the lineups posted?

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            1. SuperOsçarBaby
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Find Parm

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            2. Jax
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              About 20 pages behind

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          14. SuperOsçarBaby
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I have Ravel, Negredo, Brown and No Yaya

            Time to WC?

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            1. super zlatan
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              I would.

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          15. MattysFantasyFooty
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Nice that I have BT Sport for nothing 🙂

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            1. GreennRed
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Sit in the first row. Sporty 😉

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          16. TheCurseOfRaheem
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Negredo owners, what are you doing? His 1 pt hurt this week.

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            1. FPL Touches
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Will be selling unless something more important crops up

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            2. meule
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              selling for rooney/podolski

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            3. Jebiga
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              i wanted to replace him for adeba or soldado, but now, i will maybe keep him, because he's good @ home

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