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The Numbers Game – Community Shield Match Analysis

This evening’s Members article takes a look over the action in Sunday’s Community Shield showdown between Arsenal and City. Having assessed Alexis Sanchez’ display our lunchtime Technical Area post, we delve into the data to discover for any hints of form ahead of the weekend Gameweek 1 deadline.

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  1. Volk
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Is Mangala going to be first choice?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      yes

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      1. Volk
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Why has Pellegrini paid £32m for a player who can't even get in a mediocre France team? I much prefer Nastasic, to be honest. Sometimes I think Pellegrini is in his own little world.

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        1. pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Koscielny doesn't start for France. Doesn't mean anything.

          You'll get to see Mangala this season and your views would be changed come the end of the season.

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        2. Reeker
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          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Fernandinho was bought for 30+ million and he didn't have 1 cap for Brazil and he turned out to be a great signing

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    2. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Yes.

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    3. Rupert The Horse
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      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      YEP

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  2. FredrikH
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Shurrle + Sturridge or Sterling + Costa? 🙂

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    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Sterling and Costa by far

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    2. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Close, I say 2nd option

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    3. Rupert The Horse
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      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Sterling and Costa. Studge not very popular at the mo.

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      1. Bolt-on
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Why though? Sludge for me could easily score this weeknd

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      2. FredrikH
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks for the input.

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  3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    thanks for the analysis.

    CR7 hat-trick tonight btw

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  4. Denis Denis
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    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    More proof if it were needed City are starting slowly ...

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    1. The Missing Link
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      They were missing half their team?

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      1. Denis Denis
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        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Partly that but also no drive ...

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  5. andres
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    What is the best option for 4.5 from either CPL, SOT or STOke?

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    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Yoshida

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  6. Captain Shirokov
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Graeme Souness with the worst beard of all time.

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  7. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    whats the best way to organise a cash ML with friends? how do you lot go about it?

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    1. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Depends how mature they are. If they're good mates you trust, just make sure you agree in advance exactly what the entry is and how the money will be won (just overall winner? Manager of the month awards too? Anything for second place?)

      If it's mates and acquaintances, I'd insist on getting the cash first. Maybe set a deadline of the GW2 deadline. I can recommend this app for collecting the money:

      http://www.payfriendz.com/

      Your mates can register on their spartphone with just their name, phone number, and date of birth. They can then top up the amount (for free), send it to you (for free) and you can either keep the money on your account or withdraw the money to your bank account (for free).

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      1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        great idea to use an app. cheers. will look into that

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  8. thetinkerman
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    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    I've not been following things that closely in regards to rotating* cheap defenders and instead of just writing "which is the best cheap defender rotation", I decided to do a bit of research and check the fixtures, pre-season and managers' comments and put it to you lot to shoot down. Since we're talking about cheap defenders, I didn't get to scientific with my analysis.

    From the teams with players I am mostly confident have nailed-on players for 4.5m**, here is what I consider to be the best rotating pairs for the first 10 weeks in rough order of preference:

    SWA/HUL
    HUL/QPR
    STO/SUN
    SWA/SUN
    NEW/HUL

    Notes:

    - Cameron would be my choice from Stoke and I am not really sure he will start vs. Villa. His versatility should see him get a fair amount of gametime, but I'm still not completely confident.
    - Taylor would seem to be nailed-on for Swansea
    - Rio is my pick at QPR. I don't think he would move to a promoted side to sit at the bench at this stage in his career.
    - Coloccini is my Newcastle pick
    - Chester would be my Hull pick. Any thoughts on Rosenior being an alternative?
    - O'Shea is my man for Sunderland

    At the moment I am thinking of going with Swansea/Hull or Hull/QPR given the doubts over Cameron.

    *I define rotating based on difficulty of fixture, not just home/away, although of course home/away does influence how I assessed the fixtures

    **I may well have missed something so please chip in if you feel you know better. I have ommited AVL and WBA as I think they either don't have players for 4.5m or less that are nailed-on for the whole of the first 10 weeks (WBA) and I wouldn't play a defender from that club in my team (AVL), although Hutton will probably be my 5th defender.

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Helpful post as always trigger

      I appreciate he's 5.0 but for me Caulker stands out

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        5m for a defender from a promoted side is too much for me. Goal threat is too unpredictable with defenders to invest another 0.5m

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        1. Evans
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          I'll get my coat

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    2. The Missing Link
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Pva for Sunderland

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Why? What advantage does he have over O'Shea? Is he nailed-on?

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        1. The Missing Link
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah and attacking returns + bps system

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          1. thetinkerman
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            • 12 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            I'm not convinced he will have that much of an advantage over O'Shea in terms of either of those. If he is nailed-on and not injury prone then I'd consider him for sure.

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    3. Jake Donahue
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Cheers tinkerman, always helpful posts.

      Thinking about going pva Naylor

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I really want a Sunderland defender but my (crude) analysis is tempting me to go with a Hull defender given their propensity to get predictable home clean sheets.

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        1. Jake Donahue
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Their Thursday nights in Europe lessen the appeal for me

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          1. thetinkerman
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            • 12 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            True. good point

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    4. wilsonito
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      You a bluenose?

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        If you mean "priggish", what on earth gave you that impression?

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        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Think he means an Everton fan.

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          1. Reedy
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            or more likely Chelsea, given your grav!

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          2. thetinkerman
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            • 12 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Not, City fan actually 🙂

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    5. Get up ya bum
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Lovely Tink. This is my sort of analysis. KISS method ftw 😉

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  9. Sweetpea
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Probably wrong time for this but:

    If United's attacking forays come from the wing backs, does it mean that Mata in the hole becomes less effective?

    Thinking it might favour the 2 strikers, lots of crosses

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    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Or Mata could get on the end of the cut backs..

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  10. RoyaleBlue
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    We all know at some point we will have to put in at least one of Aguero, Sturridge or Toure could really mess up teams that dont have one

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    1. Owd Big 'Ed
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Will be Aguero for me when he's back. Sturridge slightly too pricey to justify at this stage. Think I'll go with Coutinho instead.

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  11. Hiphopopotamus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Evening all. What would you do differently with this?

    De Gea | Myhil

    Kos | Debuchy | Duff | Vlaar | Wisdom
    Sanchez | Siggy | Hazard | Mata | El Ahmadi
    Roony | Costa | Bojan

    I don't like having a keeper who won't play and I'm not sure if Duff and Wisdom will be in the first XI.

    Don't mind wildcarding in GW3. £0 in bank. Defence and cheapie mids/attacker rotate quite well.

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    1. Jake Donahue
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Don't like the double arsenal defence

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      1. Hiphopopotamus
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        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Nor me - but I can't see a better alternative (already have 3 Man U players and Luiz/Azpil don't seemed nailed on)...

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        1. Jake Donahue
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Fair point, I think a Chelsea deffender is key

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    2. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Please post on the RMT threat,

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/08/11/rate-4/

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  12. Owd Big 'Ed
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    From previous thread...
    Is going Ramseyless a bad idea? Rationale, Crystal Palace at home will be tricky given the way Pulis sets his sides up. They will sit, they will frustrate and restrict Arsenal to few chances. I can see only a 1-0 win in this game for Arsenal.

    After that they have Everton away, a fixture they lost 3-0 in last season and an incredibly tough place to go.

    Watch and wait?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I agree to some extent but he just played man city and got a goal/assist

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      1. Owd Big 'Ed
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Not the same. That was essentially a friendly against a make shift back line. I'm not denying the fact that he's a quality player but I can see Crystal Palace making things difficult but ultimately losing by the odd goal. Everton will be the same.

        Sometimes the fixtures aren't quite as they seem. I'm persuading myself to look elsewhere for now.

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    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      This really is a classic player/form over fixtures.

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    3. CarelessGenius©
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Ars 1 - 0 Cry.
      Ramsey goal. 10 points.

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    4. SW6
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      You just know he'll do well though. Fixtures are irrelevant for attackers in the top teams. After Hazard, he's the best midfielder to own imo.

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      1. Owd Big 'Ed
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        He will do well and is one of the best to own. But during the first two games I think he'll struggle to have an impact given the style of the teams they are up against.

        Hazard and Mata for me.

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    5. GoonerByron
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Wouldn't be that certain of a tight game, Pulis or not... No reason Arsenal couldn't put 3+ past them at all.

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      1. Owd Big 'Ed
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        If they get an early goal they could. It's a possibility of course. I just know from experience of watching Pulis sides for years that he sets up his players to sit and defend in these games. They restrict the space and reaply do make things difficult. I think we lost 3-1 at the Emirates once, the rest of the time it was by the odd goal.

        What was the score last season?

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    6. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I'm going without him. Would be tough vs palace and Everton.

      Hoping for a price drop so that I can pick him up before Leicester.

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      1. Evans
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        This is a good point

        Ramsey ownership is 30 plus , so pretty high already. He is more likely to drop IMO

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      2. Owd Big 'Ed
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Glad I'm not the only one.

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    7. The Missing Link
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Was going at the same ppg as Suarez last season just about:/

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  13. Gaffa914
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    RMT
    DDG/Myhill
    Cahill/Caulker/Pva/Moore/Colocinni
    Sterling/Hazard/Ramsey/Mata/Davis
    Rooney/Bojan/Dzeko

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  14. GoonerByron
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    What's the earliest we're likely to see Aguero back starting?

    I'm split between Dzeko and Jovetic... Prefer Jovetic but know Dzeko's the most likely to keep his place once Aguero's back..

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I just wouldn't go there with either dzeko or jovetic

      aguero will be back for gw2 v liverpool.

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Really? Pellegrini said he wouldn't rush him back

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        1. pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          This. Sub appearance at best.

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        2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Well off the bench a few mins v newcastle. Bench role v Liverpool at the least. Perhaps he will start? It's a Monday night game so extra rest.

          Might take him off early.

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          1. Demí
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            I dont think he'll be in the squad vs Newcastle

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    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I don't know if it's clear that Dzeko will keep his place. We don't have much to go on from last year. Jovetic is back and firing, it's like they have a new player.

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  15. Baa
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Would you rather..

    A) Eriksen + 2x 4.5m defenders
    B) Ramsey + 2x 4m defenders

    Thanks!

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    1. Vamos Sergios
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      B

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    2. Baa
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Thanks, anyone else?

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      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Think I'm going B

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        1. Baa
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Thanks

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  16. Andre W
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Sevilla do have a chance, Casillas is playing..

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  17. asm_fanz
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    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Jovetic numbers are quite enticing, he might be worth a punt... does anyone know how long it will take Aguero to be match fit?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      i'd take a guess and say he will be back gw2 v liverpool

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  18. SW6
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Oh man, we get to watch Hames again tonight 😀

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  19. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Possibility of getting trolled by LvG is worth having young at 5.5

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Haha that's true 😉

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  20. RoyaleBlue
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    when do the games today kick off then ?

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    1. Andre W
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      7:30 BST

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  21. Evans
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Sterling ownership is 27.7%

    To me he is overpriced

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    1. Pasqualinho
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I thought so too, originally. But you have to price him on a par with Oscar and Nasri, really.

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    2. Volk
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      As a Liverpool fan, I think he will be our most important player this season and that he will step up in the absence of Suarez. Sturridge will be top scorer for Liverpool, but I think Sterling will be the one to really make a name for himself.

      As for FPL, he's currently in my team, but I don't like Liverpool's opening fixtures, so I may have him from GW3.

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  22. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    "Aleksandar Kolarov (11) pushed far up the pitch from left-back and was as advanced as Edin Dzeko (10) when on the ball."

    As their average position was equidistant down the pitch, then this sentence suggests that Dzeko and Kolarov were equal in position when off the ball as well. Seems somewhat unlikely.

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  23. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Oh gawd I'm getting tempted to put Kolarov in my team. HELP ME

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      As your Doctor, I encourage you to put him in, it will be good for your health.

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      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I had him in my team for a while, but his fixtures aren't great

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  24. Gaffa914
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Who do you think will score the most points
    A)Dzeko
    B)Giroud

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    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      B

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  25. -Matador-
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone going with Giroud?

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    1. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Either him or Dzeko, I think.

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  26. Cheggers
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    it really annoys me that the login to members isn't seamless.
    Is this something ffs can have a look at?

    I can probably help if you need it

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    1. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Agreed. You have to log in again, right?

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  27. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Fabregas, Silva, Sterling or Coutinho?

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    1. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Fabregas to start with.

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  28. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Only four days to go and I'm as uncertain about my team as ever.

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    1. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I think my team is a little better, I got rid of siggurdson so that I could upgrade costa

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  29. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Glenn Hoddle is employed by everyone.

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    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Ha.

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    2. Evans
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      He can also read your palm for some silver !

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  30. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Having made the call that keepers aren't worth the hassle and got with the minimum spend of 8.5 if Evans is injured (why no news)? Evans ➡ Smalling

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