Opinion

The Burning Question: How much stock should we put in pre-season?

With a busy summer of pre-season friendlies behind us, Fantasy managers have been given plenty of hints on potential formations and starting XIs for Gameweek 1.

Manchester United’s summer schedule has afforded a fair indication as to where Memphis Depay and Wayne Rooney will be deployed. There’s also form to consider, with Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling demonstrating plenty of pace and menace over the summer, while Christian Benteke signalled his intent with a debut strike for Liverpool ahead of their opener with Stoke.

With all this in mind, we ask the “Burning Question”: how much stock should we put in pre-season?

Simon March (FPL winner 2014/15) says…
Pre-season is a better indicator of some things than others. For example, it can offer guidance on a manager’s favoured line-ups and formations, which, as we get closer to the season start, tend to become less experimental and a more reliable view of how that team will actually play. Of course, there are several potential agitators to even this information, such as the player fatigue that follows international tournaments or the open transfer window. These need to be taken into account when judging the reliability of what we see in pre-season.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that not all pre-season matches are created equal. There’s a big difference between exhibition clashes on a tour and more competitive matches such as the Europa League qualifiers or the Community Shield. The latter type of fixture is, we would assume, a manifestation of what a manager perceives to be his best available XI, playing in their best formation and, therefore, should be better indicators of what to expect going forwards.

The reliability of pre-season performances as a barometer of player form is even more difficult to assess. This is partly because of the fleeting nature of form itself but, also, because a player’s performances cannot be viewed in isolation. For example, Raheem Sterling scoring a brace in a recent friendly sounds encouraging, until you see that the opposition was the Vietnam XI. There’s a danger that we only look at part of the information and become subject to that old enemy of Fantasy managers; confirmation bias. Again, the quality of the opposition and the competitiveness of the fixture are key considerations.

Given the apparent unreliability of much of what it demonstrates, it’s tempting to write-off pre-season form altogether but I don’t think it is always entirely misleading. Where it seems to fail us most is when it comes to ‘bargain-hunting’ (I’m looking at you Mauro Boselli and Danny Graham) but, even during the main season, it is the form of budget players that tends to be the most transient. Where I think pre-season displays can be somewhat more indicative is when it’s being demonstrated by a previously proven FPL performer, preferably against solid opposition. Last season, for example, Aaron Ramsey followed-up a strong pre-season with two goals in his first couple of fixtures.

Overall, pre-season form offers a small set of mostly unreliable data and, for those reasons, should not be the principle influence on our selection. But that doesn’t mean it’s totally meaningless. Rather it’s a matter of viewing the overall context, picking out the more reliable indicators and using these, and only these, to inform our choices.

D1sable says…
For me, there are two important things to take from pre-season. The first concerns a player’s level of fitness. Has he had the minutes to be at his best? Is he likely to start the season after summer exploits? These can surely give an indication if the player is likely to start, which surely is the single most important factor in Fantasy Football.

Secondly, how are the team lining up? Is their new signing being shifted up into the front three? Is he taking a share of set pieces? These can give indications of potential for sure, though, on the other hand, if a full squad isn’t available for selection, it can also be a little misleading, so some research is recommended before diving in.

Aside from these two points, I genuinely think pre-season form matters very little, given that so many opponents are far from the calibre you’d expect to find in the Premier League.

Applebonkers says…
Pre-season is all we have for a month so, admit it or not, it chauffeurs our attentions from player to player. Wigan’s Mauro Boselli is the obvious example of a player to shine in pre-season but fall flat in the Premier League. Arguably, Jozy Altidore’s international hat-trick for USA four days before the season started carries the most guilt.

So the only time “form” plays any part now is as part of the word “formation”. With four new managers, an obscene amount of summer signings and a trio of promoted sides added to the mix, there are lots of unknowns, which the final friendly specifically provides some insight into. That insight should be limited to starting place and starting position, though. Past knowledge of the player and future hunches should do the rest.

Jonty says…
Pre-season is littered with traps, with squad players shining brightly on a Tuesday night against Gravesend, Burton Albion or the best XI Vietnam can muster, only to be dropped when the season gets underway and they have to face proper Premier League opposition.

I gain little knowledge from a player scoring against minnows in a friendly but that is not to say pre-season is not without its uses. The schedule of friendlies can be useful to clarify existing ideas about players. With a good summer under his belt, I go into 2015/16 with high hopes that Mesut Ozil will do well. Pre-season has shown me that he has the manager’s support and is delivering against some top sides, as well as some lesser ones.

In contrast, I’m still unsure as to whether Wayne Rooney, Memphis Depay or Juan Mata will be the best Manchester United option and the summer matches haven’t helped either. The Red Devils have looked brilliant and laboured in equal measure of late, which has offered me little guidance. I’ll most likely go for Rooney as a seasoned performer.

Each year I tend to stick with players in my Gameweek 1 squad who have delivered for me in previous years and have favourable fixtures, such as Rooney. A good or poor pre-season performance can help with such decisions, but rarely do they dictate them.

Evs says…
Fantasy managers need to carry out some pre-season research, particularly to understand where or when a new signing will fit into already established teams. I often use the last match prior to the season getting underway as a good indicator, as most coaches tend to give their starting team a trial run before the big kick off.

Obviously we need to be careful of a big or expensive signing and jumping to conclusions that he may take the place of an already-established player. A cracking example of this was Filipe Luis last year, who failed to make an impact for Chelsea in the Premier League.

New signings can always be a gamble based on summer form. For every Michu, the Swansea midfielder who carried his form into the Premier League, there is a Mauro Boselli, who has become synonymous for failed pre-season punting.

Mark says…
I always love to at least try to put some emphasis on pre-season form. I think this is natural because, having gone to the trouble of tracking player progress for behind-closed-doors training matches and Tuesday night trips to Exeter, I want some kind of pay-off for my efforts. I want to take a punt on a player with strong pre-season form to justify my toils in maintaining lists of teamsheets, goals and assists when others, including some notable players, are reclined by a pool.

In reality, history has taught me that putting too much stock in that striker who scores a glut of summer goals is dangerous.

Having said that, with fitness analysts at play in every club, there’s no doubt that Premier League managers have their players tracked meticulously during this spell. The minutes spent on the pitch are logged and analysed and only 11 players who have proved their fitness will cross the line in Gameweek 1. With this in mind, we have to take notice and use the information gleaned as a guide to our own decisions.

For me, two players stand out and their performances in pre-season has convinced me that I have to take their application to my squad seriously – they are Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling. Both look fired up and, quite literally, “up to speed” to the point that I believe they will terrorise defenders from the get-go.

Would I have had the confidence in them to select them without studying pre-season progress? Maybe, but like many things with Fantasy Football, having more information, having another angle and viewpoint, is just enough to tip a decision and resolve a dilemma.

Demi says…
I don’t think pre-season should have much influence on who we pick based on their goal scoring exploits. However, it’s always nice when a player you were already considering notches a couple over the summer just to reaffirm your belief. In reality, there shouldn’t be a great deal read into it, because pre-season is mainly used to get players’ fitness up and give manager’s an idea of who’s going to feature prominently in their first team plans. It obviously isn’t played with the same intensity as a competitive match and the goals scored during summer friendlies aren’t cherished or remembered by the players/clubs once the campaign kicks off.

Pre-season can be very important to get a feel of players starting positions, and the formations that managers are likely to stick with for the start of the campaign. It can also be a decent indicator of which fringe/youth players could enter our thoughts for the budget positions in the squad at some point in the season if their are injuries to the first XI at any point in the season.

Ryan says…
I take very little from pre-season matches. The whole point of summer friendlies is for the entire squad to gain match fitness and be up to speed for the campaign ahead. Form should be taken with a large grain of salt because we cannot expect either team in a friendly to playing at 100%.

We can perhaps get a gauge on likely first team players. Some managers have played their pre-season fixtures with an obvious first and second team. This might give a strong indication as to who the manager considers to be first choice. I think it’s clear who Louis Van Gaal considers as first choice for Manchester United based on the two-team set-up he employed in the USA tour, for example.

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  1. menunited
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Trying to mix it up a bit..

    Schmeichel (Darlow)
    Cedric Azp Targ Wis (???)
    Sterling Hazard (???) Wanyama Milner
    Aguero Rooney Deeney

    2 players to still decide on and might also lose targett.
    Not so fussed on Aguero not starting first week as I'd rather have him than have to make extra transfers in the following week. Also think it's easier to down grade..
    looking to upgrade darlow in the first 2 weeks also..

  2. Van Klinkert Delarosa
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    This is a very good spreadsheet by Couti & the Below5th in regards of pre-season's form and we can work out the nailed on-ness of a player (if that even a word).

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B03D_KnVF1fRbmxPTnhEOXJNaE0/view?pli=1

  3. Acquafresca
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Lots of great posters on today,

    Here's my current draft:

    Ruddy, 4.5
    Azpi, Bellerin, Huth, Coates, Targett
    Haz, Cazorla, Depay/Ramsey, Mane, Westwood
    Rooney, Benteke, Sakho

    Thoughts? I had Wally almost all preseason but hard to squeeze him in. I like the balance.

    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Ruddy,Azpiil > Courtious/Bassong,there's your 0.5 for Walcott

      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Solid team

      2. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Interesting. Might take one of Azpi/ Bellerin out completely for Cedric, upgrade Targett, and still have 0.5

        What are your thoughts on Benteke Optimus?

        1. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Well Benteke is in my team,if it were a thing that Pool were losing 2-0 with Benteke on the bench then BR would be crucified 🙂 There is risk of him not but...

    2. GYM JUNKIE
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      7/10 wouldnt play sakho dont see him scoring against ars. need theo imo. benteke not sure if will start

    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      you could downgrade the other 4.5 to Rudd and that will get you to Theo

      Not sold on Targett as the 4.0 option

      Saylor, Burke or Oxford all seem like better bets

    4. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Benteke over Kane allows for a much better defense. Looks really good to me.

    5. AK ⭐
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I am on something similar and I like it. Do you think though, that Courtois + Koscielny + Bassong is a better combo than Ruddy + Azpi + Bellerin?

      No City attack? I like the Cazorla pick a lot

      1. AlissonWunderland
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks this could of helped alot

    6. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Ducked out of Walcott have you ?

      1. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        No. Trying to squeeze him in. 😀

    7. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Westwood! May be my answer for the 5th midfielder 🙂

      1. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Might go Ruddy/ Rudd after all 😉

      2. Kopite With Growing Optimis…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Don't know much about Westwood. Is he nailed to play?

    8. Van Klinkert Delarosa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Ruddy, Rudd free up another 0.5. Or the Leicester combo as (4.5/4.0) alternative.

    9. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Bellerin seems a risky 5.5.
      I like Kane over Rooney personally.
      Good team tho.

  4. Every Dog Has Its Day
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    "I am very happy to join Paris Saint Germain." - Ángel Di María. (Source: beIN Sports Arabic) pic.twitter.com/OcLvTl9yln

    1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I bet the translator can speak Parseltongue.

    2. Syd.
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      He said the same when he joined United last year

  5. Krul Runnings
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone tell me what sort of numbers you want to be achieving (roughly) from the RMT tool?
    If it predicts your team will average about 50 points per Gameweek is that considered Good/average/poor?

    Cheers Gents

    1. RMT's Professor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      For a single gameweek 50 points is OK, 55 points is pretty good and 60 is great. People have found teams that average around 55 points per week for the first 6 gameweeks (that's with no transfers). Bear in mind that a top 1K team in FPL got about 60 points per week last year but that includes 4 or so double gameweeks where you can easily look for 70 to 80 on RMT. Finally, to squeeze that extra bit of value then you can use your transfers which will inevitably increase your expected points.

      1. RMT's Professor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Of course, it also depends on the fixtures. If Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Utd are all at home to Villa, Bournemouth, Norwich and Watford (never going to happen!) one gameweek, I would guess 70 to 75 would actually be a good RMT score that week.

        1. Krul Runnings
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Cracking reply, thanks for that! I guessed that it would be somewhere in the ballpark of what you have explained. My current squad currently averaging 53 over the first 6 game weeks and 54 over the first 3. I plan to wc before GW4 so I guess 54 over the first 3 is decent. No doubt there is a way to squeeze more expected value from the tool but there is inevitably a point where your gut won't allow you to remove certain players and therefore your expected value is pretty much capped, think I've reached this point :).

          Thanks again for the reply

  6. BaasB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Hi everyone,

    My first team in this game and I would very much appreciate feedback or tips on my team and/or GW1 setup.

    Mignolet
    cedric - azpi - clyne
    hazard - sterling - mane - sinclair - henderson
    Rooney - kane

    hennesey - targett - Francis - wilson

    Thx for replies

  7. Kopite With Growing Optimis…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Chaps, grateful if you could RMT.

    Coutois - Hennessey
    Saylor - Cedric - Mertesacker - Huth - Targett
    Sterling - Sinclair - Hazard - Walcott - Carzola
    Rooney - Deeney - Benteke/Pelle

    Plan to downgrade Wacott to 4.5m and upgade Benteke/Pelle to Aguero.

    Many thanks in advance for your thoughts

  8. JaydenLFC87
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Can I get a rating out of 10 for the below team???

    Kasper
    Azpi\Mert\Gomez
    Walcott\Haz\Mane\Sterling
    Rooney\Benteke\Wilson

    Hennessey\Fletcher\Cedric\Saylor

    1. Kopite With Growing Optimis…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      7.5/10
      Gomez may not start.
      Benteke is short of match fitness
      Not convinced Wilson will get much game time

      1. AlissonWunderland
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Wilson is there main striker , why wouldnt he?

        1. Kopite With Growing Optimis…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Ahhh, thought you meant Man U's Wilson. Fair enough. Would prefer Deeney though.

      2. JaydenLFC87
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Cedric as backup but if Gomez starts and lpool get CS I can see him keeping his place

      3. RÏɠBY
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        what's up with wilson?

  9. Back on the horse
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Good read. I particularly like AB's "form"/"formation" line.

  10. Mesh
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Who is more nailed on?
    A. O'Shea
    B. Coates

    1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      The real burning question.

  11. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    So who's the best 4.5m midfielder?

    I need:
    - nailed on
    - not injury prone
    - low ownership [to avoid price drops]

    1. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Fletcher. If he can keep his bowels in check.

      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Good shout, but is he fit, that's the question.

      2. Kopite With Growing Optimis…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Good shout. Most will go wanyama. Nice differential potentially

    2. GYM JUNKIE
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      barry, fletcher, anya

      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Who's Anya?

        1. *sigh*
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          You know? Orinocho Flow? 1988?

        2. AK ⭐
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Plays for Watford. Sometimes plays as a LB though, don't think we have a Boyd on our hands yet.

        3. Taff
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I thought Anya was just the site's favoured abbreviation of Wanyama until I found myself scouring the Watford midfield bargain basement!

          1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Anya evolved into Wanyama, just like Rudd become Ruddy.

    3. *sigh*
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Id say Huth but hes quite popular

      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Huth is a defender, innit?

      2. *sigh*
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Sorry thought you said defender.4.5 mid would be Fletcher I reckon.

    4. AK ⭐
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Anya? Haven't checked his ownership but should be low I think. Fletcher if he doesn't seem like a good shout.

      Behrami's 4.5 too, do you think he is nailed Pepin? I don't know if he is

      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Behrami decent option! Need to ask AB if he thinks he's nailed.

        1. AK ⭐
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Definitely. He is in my team for now.

    5. Housewives Favourite
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Westwood

  12. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Arsenal have an optimal fixture vs a European traveled west ham, so any the mids owned should be (c)?

    1. sumatera
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      yes i reckon Wally if you wanna go all out or Rambo/ozil/cazorla for safer option

    2. AlissonWunderland
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Wally

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I'm on Wally(c) Haz (vc)

  13. ianpeterson
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    A) Mane, Walcott, Tekkers
    B) Sterling, Ozil/Rambo, Pelle

    Thanks

    1. Jay_
        8 years, 10 months ago

        A

      • Royal5
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        B

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      cattermole, you didn't mention anything about being a card magnet

    3. Jay_
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Bottomed out on old article 😀

        A: Schmeichel Sinclair 5th mid

        B: Panti 4.5 mid

        I think Panti will out score Schmeichel but not by much and would feel much more secure having Panti in goal than Schmeichel, on the other hand Sinclair seems too much good value to pass up and could gain value quickly in first few weeks plus I could bench Sakho for him gw1 and also Sinclair brings the AOA chip option into play at any given week.

        Other option is C: Walcott to Ozil to fund Panti and Sinclair

        1. You've got red on you.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Schmeichel + 4.5 mid + 0.5m to upgrade elsewhere

      • Taff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Think I'm finally done. Any thoughts on this motley crew?

        Ruddy (Rudd)
        Ivan, Mert, Huth, (Cedric), (Saylor)
        Haz, Ozil, Sterling, Milner, (Wanyama)
        Rooney, Pelle, Sakho

        1. bdwhite91
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I like it a lot. I'm so stuck on mane but I might have to get over it. Pelle can score goals when he's in form. Mane is just so explosive

          1. Taff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Mane's a quality player and a very good option. It's just the funds Pelle frees up that I think gives him the edge. Am nervous without him though

            1. sumatera
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Pelle for me

        2. sumatera
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Very solid, only thing I'd worry about id the goalkeeper combo

          1. Taff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            It is total turd I know but am hoping slightly polished by the bps changes. Allows me the luxury of Ivanovic

      • bdwhite91
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        A) Lukaku
        B) Kane
        C) Pelle

        Note: 2.0 itb with the cheaper strikers

        1. GYM JUNKIE
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Graz

        2. AK ⭐
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Hey Brian! 😀

          Kane for me

          1. bdwhite91
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Do I know you? XD thanks man

            1. AK ⭐
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              FFFL Everton. Makes sense? 😛

        3. sumatera
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          A & B for GW1 then sell Lukaku and get Kane for GW2 🙂

      • Doctor X
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Quickie?

        A) Ozil to double up with Walcott
        or
        B) Sterling

        1. GYM JUNKIE
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          b

        2. Taff
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Ozil & Sterling

        3. Skipdipper
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Sterling
          Ozil instead of walcott

        4. kalmoffit
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          All three.

        5. Van Klinkert Delarosa
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          That's what she said.

          Sterling

      • Skipdipper
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Schmeichel Schwarzer
        Gomez Richards Kos Cedric O'Shea
        Ritchie Haz Sterling Ramsey Depay
        benteke Kane Deeney

        Ny thoughts on the above?
        RMT please 🙂

        1. sumatera
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          No Roonpig?

          1. Skipdipper
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Punting on Depay instead

      • Lebowski85
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Benteke / Sinclair / Wilson
        or
        Pelle / Ritchie / Deeney

        1. Skipdipper
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Second

        2. Super PVA - Small Spuds
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          a. With Deeney for me

      • wycombewanderers
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Mccarthy or Hennessy for the 4.0 keeper bearing in mind Speroni injured? Is Hennessy still maybe going west brom? Who would you go for? Thanks

      • You've got red on you.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        1) If I am going for Schmeichel in goal should I choose an alternative 4th defender to Huth or go for him anyway as he will very rarely play and is a solid choice?

        2) Is Cedric, Targett and Wanyama, Southampton overkill? Even though Targett and Wanyama will also spend most of the time on the bench.

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          total overkill

          you've blown 2 Saints spots on squad fillers and ruled out any hope of getting Mane, Tadic, Pelle etc.

          1. You've got red on you.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Good point! I don't have S'hampton attack yet but I'd like to know I could get it if I wanted. I will drop Targett for Saylor

      • Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Should have got Ruth to contribute to the article. Knows absolutely everything there is to know thanks to his one season experience 😉

        1. kalmoffit
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          He has some interesting ideas.

      • Super PVA - Small Spuds
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        A: Milner and Panti

        Or

        B: Mane and Schmeichel

        WC GW4

        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Both look are perfectly good options, probably like B more due to Mane.

          1. Super PVA - Small Spuds
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Cheers mate. Appreciated. Tough call.

            Shamelessly reposted as lost on this page...

      • Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        AK hi mate 🙂

        Lots of familiar faces on tonight.

        1. AK ⭐
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Evening Pepin, been lurking and saw Evs, Acqua and you and I thought of posting. 😀

          Really liked your team on the other page. Though I agree with Evs and others, Clyne and Darmian need to go I think.

          1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            🙂

          2. Acquafresca
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Bellerin a better shout at 5.5 imo.

      • Klopp's Kids
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Any thoughts on a Deeney/Ritchie rotation combo?

        You get:

        AVL (H) - Ritchie
        WBA (H) - Deeney
        SOU (H) - Deeney
        LEI (H) - Ritchie
        SWA (H) - Deeney
        SUN (H) - Ritchie
        CRY (H) - Deeney
        WAT (H) - Ritchie

        At 11.5M which is equivalent to a 4.5M and a 7.0M striker.

        1. Jay_
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Sinclair and Sakho is just a bit better I think, two established PL clubs

        2. FPLFamily (Lee)
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Not seen Coutinho in a single RMT yet? No love for our magical little Brazilian??

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            His cheaper team mates have more appeal it seems.

        3. Numb
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Oh dear, having made Huth my top recommendation for a 4.5 defender, Morgan declaring himself fit and ready may have put a spanner in the works - now wondering if he is the better option...

          Better BPS (and a big gainer under the new system)
          More nailed on?
          Huth maybe a better goal threat although not last season

          1. Yank Revolution
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Won't Huth and Morgan be the first team pair?

            1. Numb
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Quite possibly although they've just signed another CB haven't they? Plus, there's still the BPs to consider

              1. Yank Revolution
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                As far as I can see on the depth charts, Morgan/Huth is the starting pair.

                http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/depth-charts/bpl.aspx

                Fuchs/Wasilewski on the outside if they play four across the back.

        4. Yank Revolution
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          So, I made a team with no Hazard, but with Aguero. I love both of these players (wasn't considering starting with Aguero and not Haz), but wanted to see what I could come up with.

          I think it looks pretty darned good. And I can get Chelsea cover in Fabregas if needed; would ship Mane or Ozil out)

          Here it is.

          Cech/(4.0)
          Azpi/Cedric/Francis/Huth/(Saylor)
          Ozil/Mane/Eriksen/Milner/(Wanyama)
          Kun/Rooney/Sakho

          0 ITB

        5. BaasB
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Hi everyone,

          My first team in this game and I would very much appreciate feedback or tips on my team and/or GW1 setup.

          Mignolet
          cedric - azpi - clyne
          hazard - sterling - mane - sinclair - henderson
          Rooney - kane

          hennesey - targett - Francis - wilson

          Thx for replies!!

          1. KEYS TO BENZEMA
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Who would you pick out of the Leicester defence if you had to have one of?

            A) Schlupp
            C) Huth
            D) Morgan

            Thanks in advance.