Opinion

The Burning Question: How much stock should we put in pre-season?

With a busy summer of pre-season friendlies behind us, Fantasy managers have been given plenty of hints on potential formations and starting XIs for Gameweek 1.

Manchester United’s summer schedule has afforded a fair indication as to where Memphis Depay and Wayne Rooney will be deployed. There’s also form to consider, with Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling demonstrating plenty of pace and menace over the summer, while Christian Benteke signalled his intent with a debut strike for Liverpool ahead of their opener with Stoke.

With all this in mind, we ask the “Burning Question”: how much stock should we put in pre-season?

Simon March (FPL winner 2014/15) says…
Pre-season is a better indicator of some things than others. For example, it can offer guidance on a manager’s favoured line-ups and formations, which, as we get closer to the season start, tend to become less experimental and a more reliable view of how that team will actually play. Of course, there are several potential agitators to even this information, such as the player fatigue that follows international tournaments or the open transfer window. These need to be taken into account when judging the reliability of what we see in pre-season.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that not all pre-season matches are created equal. There’s a big difference between exhibition clashes on a tour and more competitive matches such as the Europa League qualifiers or the Community Shield. The latter type of fixture is, we would assume, a manifestation of what a manager perceives to be his best available XI, playing in their best formation and, therefore, should be better indicators of what to expect going forwards.

The reliability of pre-season performances as a barometer of player form is even more difficult to assess. This is partly because of the fleeting nature of form itself but, also, because a player’s performances cannot be viewed in isolation. For example, Raheem Sterling scoring a brace in a recent friendly sounds encouraging, until you see that the opposition was the Vietnam XI. There’s a danger that we only look at part of the information and become subject to that old enemy of Fantasy managers; confirmation bias. Again, the quality of the opposition and the competitiveness of the fixture are key considerations.

Given the apparent unreliability of much of what it demonstrates, it’s tempting to write-off pre-season form altogether but I don’t think it is always entirely misleading. Where it seems to fail us most is when it comes to ‘bargain-hunting’ (I’m looking at you Mauro Boselli and Danny Graham) but, even during the main season, it is the form of budget players that tends to be the most transient. Where I think pre-season displays can be somewhat more indicative is when it’s being demonstrated by a previously proven FPL performer, preferably against solid opposition. Last season, for example, Aaron Ramsey followed-up a strong pre-season with two goals in his first couple of fixtures.

Overall, pre-season form offers a small set of mostly unreliable data and, for those reasons, should not be the principle influence on our selection. But that doesn’t mean it’s totally meaningless. Rather it’s a matter of viewing the overall context, picking out the more reliable indicators and using these, and only these, to inform our choices.

D1sable says…
For me, there are two important things to take from pre-season. The first concerns a player’s level of fitness. Has he had the minutes to be at his best? Is he likely to start the season after summer exploits? These can surely give an indication if the player is likely to start, which surely is the single most important factor in Fantasy Football.

Secondly, how are the team lining up? Is their new signing being shifted up into the front three? Is he taking a share of set pieces? These can give indications of potential for sure, though, on the other hand, if a full squad isn’t available for selection, it can also be a little misleading, so some research is recommended before diving in.

Aside from these two points, I genuinely think pre-season form matters very little, given that so many opponents are far from the calibre you’d expect to find in the Premier League.

Applebonkers says…
Pre-season is all we have for a month so, admit it or not, it chauffeurs our attentions from player to player. Wigan’s Mauro Boselli is the obvious example of a player to shine in pre-season but fall flat in the Premier League. Arguably, Jozy Altidore’s international hat-trick for USA four days before the season started carries the most guilt.

So the only time “form” plays any part now is as part of the word “formation”. With four new managers, an obscene amount of summer signings and a trio of promoted sides added to the mix, there are lots of unknowns, which the final friendly specifically provides some insight into. That insight should be limited to starting place and starting position, though. Past knowledge of the player and future hunches should do the rest.

Jonty says…
Pre-season is littered with traps, with squad players shining brightly on a Tuesday night against Gravesend, Burton Albion or the best XI Vietnam can muster, only to be dropped when the season gets underway and they have to face proper Premier League opposition.

I gain little knowledge from a player scoring against minnows in a friendly but that is not to say pre-season is not without its uses. The schedule of friendlies can be useful to clarify existing ideas about players. With a good summer under his belt, I go into 2015/16 with high hopes that Mesut Ozil will do well. Pre-season has shown me that he has the manager’s support and is delivering against some top sides, as well as some lesser ones.

In contrast, I’m still unsure as to whether Wayne Rooney, Memphis Depay or Juan Mata will be the best Manchester United option and the summer matches haven’t helped either. The Red Devils have looked brilliant and laboured in equal measure of late, which has offered me little guidance. I’ll most likely go for Rooney as a seasoned performer.

Each year I tend to stick with players in my Gameweek 1 squad who have delivered for me in previous years and have favourable fixtures, such as Rooney. A good or poor pre-season performance can help with such decisions, but rarely do they dictate them.

Evs says…
Fantasy managers need to carry out some pre-season research, particularly to understand where or when a new signing will fit into already established teams. I often use the last match prior to the season getting underway as a good indicator, as most coaches tend to give their starting team a trial run before the big kick off.

Obviously we need to be careful of a big or expensive signing and jumping to conclusions that he may take the place of an already-established player. A cracking example of this was Filipe Luis last year, who failed to make an impact for Chelsea in the Premier League.

New signings can always be a gamble based on summer form. For every Michu, the Swansea midfielder who carried his form into the Premier League, there is a Mauro Boselli, who has become synonymous for failed pre-season punting.

Mark says…
I always love to at least try to put some emphasis on pre-season form. I think this is natural because, having gone to the trouble of tracking player progress for behind-closed-doors training matches and Tuesday night trips to Exeter, I want some kind of pay-off for my efforts. I want to take a punt on a player with strong pre-season form to justify my toils in maintaining lists of teamsheets, goals and assists when others, including some notable players, are reclined by a pool.

In reality, history has taught me that putting too much stock in that striker who scores a glut of summer goals is dangerous.

Having said that, with fitness analysts at play in every club, there’s no doubt that Premier League managers have their players tracked meticulously during this spell. The minutes spent on the pitch are logged and analysed and only 11 players who have proved their fitness will cross the line in Gameweek 1. With this in mind, we have to take notice and use the information gleaned as a guide to our own decisions.

For me, two players stand out and their performances in pre-season has convinced me that I have to take their application to my squad seriously – they are Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling. Both look fired up and, quite literally, “up to speed” to the point that I believe they will terrorise defenders from the get-go.

Would I have had the confidence in them to select them without studying pre-season progress? Maybe, but like many things with Fantasy Football, having more information, having another angle and viewpoint, is just enough to tip a decision and resolve a dilemma.

Demi says…
I don’t think pre-season should have much influence on who we pick based on their goal scoring exploits. However, it’s always nice when a player you were already considering notches a couple over the summer just to reaffirm your belief. In reality, there shouldn’t be a great deal read into it, because pre-season is mainly used to get players’ fitness up and give manager’s an idea of who’s going to feature prominently in their first team plans. It obviously isn’t played with the same intensity as a competitive match and the goals scored during summer friendlies aren’t cherished or remembered by the players/clubs once the campaign kicks off.

Pre-season can be very important to get a feel of players starting positions, and the formations that managers are likely to stick with for the start of the campaign. It can also be a decent indicator of which fringe/youth players could enter our thoughts for the budget positions in the squad at some point in the season if their are injuries to the first XI at any point in the season.

Ryan says…
I take very little from pre-season matches. The whole point of summer friendlies is for the entire squad to gain match fitness and be up to speed for the campaign ahead. Form should be taken with a large grain of salt because we cannot expect either team in a friendly to playing at 100%.

We can perhaps get a gauge on likely first team players. Some managers have played their pre-season fixtures with an obvious first and second team. This might give a strong indication as to who the manager considers to be first choice. I think it’s clear who Louis Van Gaal considers as first choice for Manchester United based on the two-team set-up he employed in the USA tour, for example.

J0E Podcaster and writer. Tweets stats and stuff via @FFScout_Joe Follow them on Twitter

5,434 Comments Post a Comment
  1. reason17
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Hi, which sunderland 4.5 defender is 100% nailed on?

    1. *sigh*
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Don't think there is one for certain as yet.

    2. Seabreeze
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I'm on Coates, think he's nailed.

    3. Egg noodle
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Muniesa is our best guess, but no guarantees

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Change clubs?

      2. Egg noodle
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Sorry I read Stoke!
        O'Shea is nailed on isnt he?

      3. Number 10
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I can guarantee you Muniesa is 0% at Sunderland.

        1. Number 10
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          😉

    4. che
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      None mate, not yet. That's one of the reasons why I've stuck with Pants. Best source of points from our defence anyway.

    5. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I see no reason for O'Shea to be dropped

  2. Syd.
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Mr Simon March gets about

    Fantasy Premier League: How to become a champion
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33713208

    1. GYM JUNKIE
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      apparently he has made 1m

  3. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Ashley Westwood

    Is he nailed?

    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Just saw him in Acqua's team and got me thinking. I guess he should be? Not sure with all the new players, though.

      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        a Villa fan tells me he is

      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        played the most mins in pre-season so seems to be in favour

      3. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Heard from a Villa fan on here. With Delph gone, he's on corners and set pieces. Should be nailed for 90mins per game. Good for a couple goals and assists.

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          excellent

          4.5 mid found

        2. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          are you gonna start him GW1?

        3. Connor's Calling
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          thought they'd signed a couple of new mids?

          AV midfield a minefield at the mo as far as i can see.

          Like the idea of Sinclair...but even then no idea what Sherwood will do

          1. Heytch
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            They're signing... Some no names, but can't forget they had the heart ripped out of their team with Cleverley loan finish and Delph sold

    2. Seabreeze
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      With the new players coming in it has put a ? on him now, so I've switched him out.

    3. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah definitely

      Already got a lot of mins with both Cleverley and Delph there. He even more critical for them now

    4. The Shadow
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      He's put in more preseason minutes than any other Villa player.

  4. Rhys85
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    I think unless I decide to bring in Aguero from the start and have to reshuffle, I'm happy with this:

    Ruddy
    Huth / Francis / Koscielny
    Sterling / Hazard (c) / Milner / Ramsey
    Kane / Wilson / Rooney

    (Myhill / King / Cedric / Williams)

    Any comments?

    Cheers guys

  5. waitinginthelonggrass
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Milner and Tekkers overkill? They provide two good options at their price point but my head is saying don't rely on Liverpool for ANYTHING.

    1. Yank Revolution
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I'm starting to agree- not comfortable with 2 Pool attackers.

    2. Count_cooler
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I personally wouldn't be going with 2 liverpool, try and spread out. Plenty of options around those prices

    3. Pringle
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Could be great but dont like the look of it personally

    4. Seabreeze
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I had Hendo and Tekkers, now I just have Tekkers. I couldn't double up on Pool and I prefer the value up front.

  6. Super PVA - Small Spuds
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Hello good people!

    A: Mane and Schmeichel

    B: Milner and Panti

    WC: GM4

    Thanks

    1. Mathematically Safe
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      A, in my opinion, by virtue of Liverpool's tough start

    2. Pringle
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      A

  7. Yank Revolution
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Bottom paged.

    So, I made a team with no Hazard, but with Aguero. I love both of these players (wasn't considering starting with Aguero and not Haz), but wanted to see what I could come up with.

    I think it looks pretty darned good. And I can get Chelsea cover in Fabregas if needed; would ship Mane or Ozil out)

    Here it is.

    Cech/(4.0)
    Azpi/Cedric/Francis/Huth/(Saylor)
    Ozil/Mane/Eriksen/Milner/(Wanyama)
    Rooney/Sakho/(Kun)- if he's on bench.

    0 ITB

    1. Rhys85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I actually prefer Chadli to Eriksen, so there's £1.5m extra there. Looks good though.

  8. jdogg
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Hi guys

    Mccarthey hennesey

    Azpi mert cedric huth richards

    Fabregas sterling ozil mahrez sinclair

    Aguero pelle beteke

    Im willing to gamble on the keepers

    Any opinions on the rest?x

    1. AlissonWunderland
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Tbh the goalies wont even get a cs (hard fixtures) but good to gamble until gw3/4 wildcard

      1. jdogg
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        What about the rest?any suggestions?x

        1. AlissonWunderland
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Defense is strong, Maybe Sunderland --> Villa or do you think villa will do good defensivley
          NO HAZARD , risky business but improves rest of team (wouldnt if i was you)
          No man u mid , easy fixtures
          Aguero may be a *come on in 70th min* which isnt great
          Benteke and Pelle good tho

          x

          1. jdogg
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Cheers myfriend.x

  9. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    just seen that Poch admitted his team won't be 100% for Saturday. madness

    1. @Bryan
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Joys of the season starting early August instead of mid I guess

  10. jamesacresswell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Looking at the West Ham/ Villa rotation, any ideas on regular starters in the back four? I.e. Is Collins likely to start?!

    1. Jay_
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Cresswell Reid Tomkins/Ogbonna Jenkinson

        Collins not even first reserve CB

    2. GYM JUNKIE
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Hazard or Fabregas?

      1. *sigh*
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Haz

      2. Guru Mediation
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Check out the community article on vorp. I've been known Cesc for a while but that articulates it perfectly

        1. jdogg
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Do you have a link please?sounds interesting.cheers.x

      3. S.Kuqi
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Haz

      4. GoRedz
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        until you have another captain-material like Kun, hazard.
        After that, Fab is better value.

    3. Guru Mediation
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I'm pretty happy with this now:
      Cech // Hennessey
      Ivanovic // cedric // Alderweireld // Huth // Saylor
      Silva // Walcott // Fabregas // Chadli // Fletcher
      Rooney // Pelle // Sakho
      0.5 itb.
      Will change silva to Ki, Walcott to Sanchez, Rooney to Aguero, but only when they are showing form as I'm happy with the attacking coverage for citeh and the gooners

      1. waitinginthelonggrass
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Looks good to me.

    4. Towsor44
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Which of the Villa strikers are gonna be first choice? Ayew or Gestede?

      1. GYM JUNKIE
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        agbonlahor?

        1. Towsor44
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Or him too, yes! Whoops. Could be a minefield, will stick with Sakho for the .5 more

    5. Mathematically Safe
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      All thoughts welcome:

      A. Mane & Ulloa
      B. Mahrez & Pelle

      ???

      1. RÏɠBY
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        b

    6. RÏɠBY
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      just read (here) wilson might not get much game time.. he scored 23 goales last season.. how can they leave him out?

    7. @Bryan
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      End of last season, I somewhat trailed off into mediocrity and mentally checked out fpl wise, so out of curiosity, do city still play with 2 up front, and thus, Bony plays?

      He is like Dzeko, but err, much better!

    8. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I think I'm getting pulled into this sterling trap, and I don't want to be.

      Right, time to log off and go to sleep.

      *Evs cwtches up under RVP duvet*

      1. RÏɠBY
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        he is DEFINITELY a trap

      2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Night mate

        (I've gone for young Raheem myself)

        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          (Maybe)

      3. S.Kuqi
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        He isn't trap. 158 points in a bad season and now he plays for better team and has good pre season form.

    9. Give us a smile
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I think I'm settled on my team now (until Friday night at least....), final thoughts?

      Ruddy, Butland
      Azpi, Cedric, Morgan, Francis, S.Taylor
      Hazard, Cazorla, Mane, Sterling, Fletcher
      Rooney, Benteke, Wilson

      £1M ITB

      There's still a couple of things in the back of my mind;
      - Wilson + £1M > Sahko
      - Cazorla + £0.5 > Walcott

      I do want to keep £0.5 ITB for Rooney+Sterling > Aguero + £7M mid when required though.

      Any comments greatly appreciated!

    10. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Anyone going for Costa or is he just too much trouble?

      1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        hazard is better value, even without the injury trouble

        1. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          That wasn't my question. I have Hazard, I also have Costa

          1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            he is too much trouble. prefer a haz/fab double up until the winter dip from cesc

        2. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Not sure on that. Had Costa played the same minutes, he probably would have outscored Hazard with the rate he was scoring.

      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        cards, lack of fitness, dodgy hamstring makes me steer away for now. Plus doesn't really pick up the bonus either which is another negative

        1. RÏɠBY
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          most players get cards but not constant goals.. his lack of bonus points though is worth mentioning

      3. d1sable
        • Has Moderation Rights
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Nail on the head

        or in his case

        Nail in the head

      4. AlissonWunderland
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        His twitchy hamstring is annoying me

      5. RÏɠBY
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        reallyReally tempted.. he's in my team now just waiting for incoming info

      6. @Bryan
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Touch of the Van Persie's about him, if he can stay fit for a period, he will probably score allot of goals. More then the similarly priced Rooney.

        Who knows when he will hit a period of fitness though.

      7. Jay_
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Had before hamstring, got rid and teams looks much better without, getting Aguero will be harder but hopefully Sinclair will solve that

        • Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          It's a toss up. It's much easier to get Aguero with him as a placeholder.

          I'm assuming we won't hear much from Mourinho by the weekend. So it's whether or not you're willing to risk an 11.0 who has an equal chance to score or pull a hammy.

        • Seabreeze
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Staying clear at the start of the season, with the uncertanties to his fitness and the hammy playing up.

          Would be interested if the above wasn't the case though.

        • Every Dog Has Its Day
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Too much trouble for me; I'd just stick with Hazard.

        • Evs
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Had both.

          Ditched him after charity shield. Don't want 11m no show gw1

          Cue Brace.

      8. bodsc
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Any early Wildcarders considering the two CPL 4.0 keepers for the first few weeks?

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Not the worst shout I have heard

          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Only because some suggested a WBA double up

        2. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          A third of their first three games are against arsenal. So no

        3. premierglaser
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I'm an early wildcarder!
          not going for it but hadn't considered it...care to sell me on it?

          1. bodsc
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Do it.

        4. Bojan Horsemack
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Considered it. The trouble comes if Speroni comes back early.

          1. bodsc
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            True. Hopefully misses the first 3, Chelsea GW4 and i'm rid.

        5. jdogg
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Im going for it.i dont actually think speroni will walk straight back in when hes fit.x

          1. Bojan Horsemack
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            What makes you say that? Kisses.

          2. bodsc
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            That would please me JDogg x

          3. jdogg
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Did pardew not play hennessey a few games towards end of the season. Speroni is 36 and out of contract at the end of the season.and the link int the ffscout tweets.he says that its a threeway competition for no1 this season and unfortunatly speroni isnt part of it yet.x

            1. jdogg
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              "He really didn't need that as there's competition – and you can see that now with Wayne and Alex.

              "There's a race now, and unfortunately for Jules he's not part of it."

              Read more: http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/Palace-suffer-Speroni-injury-blow-set-miss-weeks/story-27535275-detail/story.html#ixzz3hsuiS0Dq
              Follow us: @CroydonAd on Twitter | croydonadvertiser on Facebook

        6. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          😎

      9. King Henrik
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        United's possible CL play-off opponent: CSKA/Sparta Prague, Lazio, Brugge/Panathinaikos, Monaco, Fenerbahce or Rapid Vienna.

      10. AlissonWunderland
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        This is robbed from someone else (Forgot your name sorry )

        He said (both 20.5)

        Courtois (and 4) Kosc and any 5

        instead of
        Rutland , Azpi and Mert/Bellerin

        Im with first one

        1. AK ⭐
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Probably me on Acqua's post last page. Cheers I got to help. 🙂

          1. AlissonWunderland
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Yes it was sorry hahaha

        2. Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I'd still rather 2nd one. Don't like Chelsea keeper, small chance of baps or saves.

          1. Acquafresca
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            But I do like Kos.

          2. AK ⭐
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            I just think Kosc + Courtois should do better than Bellerin + Cech. The burning question seems to be whether the difference between them is lower or higher than Ruddy's saves or BAPS

      11. Skipdipper
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Schmeichel Schwarzer
        Gomez Richards Kos Cedric O'Shea
        Ritchie Haz Sterling Ramsey Depay
        benteke Kane Deeney

        Any thoughts on the above?
        RMT please 🙂

        1. King Henrik
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          3-5-2 .. Not bad .. not sure on Gomez rest is ok

          1. Skipdipper
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Yup and Ritchie and Deeney rotate well
            Gomez to hutch/Francis if doesn't start for liverpool

      12. DocDrogo
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Forgive me if this has already been asked but....

        With Aguero possibly out, Dzeko and Jovetic both sold...

        Why is nobody talking about Bony?

      13. Feed tha Sheep
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Evening all what is best combo?
        A. Costa Richie and Deeney
        B. Kane Henderson and Wilson (+0.5)

        Also Huth or Yoshida as 4.5 def?

      14. waitinginthelonggrass
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Chadli or Mr Jimmy Milner?

        1. Egg noodle
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Chadli

        2. Demí
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Chadilac

        3. waitinginthelonggrass
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Cheers

      15. Royal5
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Ritchieowners: Are you planning to play him every week or rotate him? Really don't want to pay too much for a 5th mid and give myself a benching headache every week.

        1. bantamdave
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I am planning to rotate with Sakho, in the first instance. I accept it is an expensive combo but in the early stages of the season, I want to take advantage of favourable fixtures for Bournemouth and West Ham. IMO, these are the value rotational players from the said teams.

          The WC will be used if the strategy proves unsuccesful!!!

      16. Kurtinho
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Anyone else have a squad centralised on only a few teams? I have somehow come up with 2 × Chelsea, 2 × Southampton, 2 × West Ham, 2 × Bournemouth, 2 × United, but I'm happy with it.

      17. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Giroud - 4 goals in 3 games vs West Ham at The Emirates. Capitaine.

      18. bantamdave
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        An excellent reminder as to why, we should take pre-season with a pinch of salt. I like to go with players whom i believe are nailed on and whilst this is no guarantee to succes, reassessment can be made after the end of the transfer window, allowing if necessary to play the wildcard.

        Great article.

        Just one last moment of your time, having already got Ramsey would you go for YaYa (assuming fitness) or Carzola??

        Team at time of writing:

        Rudd/Ruddy
        Jenkinson, Huth, Cedric, Coates, Francis
        Hazard, Milner, Ramsey, Ritchie, XXX
        Rooney, Lukaka (GW2 transfer to Kane) and Sakho.