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Dugout Discussion August 15

The Dugout Discussion – Southampton vs Everton

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Saturday’s events get underway with a clash between Southampton and Everton at St Mary’s this lunchtime. Both sides are looking for a first win of the new campaign after registering 2-2 draws with Newcastle and Watford last weekend.

The Saints proved a reliable source of defensive returns at home last year, chalking up 11 clean sheets in front of their own fans and conceding a mere 13 times – only Chelsea (nine) proved more miserly.

After netting twice at St James’ Park last week, they’ll be looking to take advantage of a Toffees backline devoid of the injured Leighton Baines. Certainly, given that the visitors managed just two clean sheets on their travels last season, those backing the Saints at both ends of the pitch will fancy their chances of getting amongst the points.

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  1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Its one game. Lukaku will disappear into the abyss soon enough. Hes rubbish.

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    1. FrancescoLazio
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      You watching?

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  2. Danno - Emre Canada
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    All aboard......

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  3. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    What is Lukakus ownersip %age?
    Can't get on fpl right now.

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    1. Kno
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      8.4%

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      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Thx.

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  4. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Nailed on, 8m and on penalties, I am very tempted > Cazorla + Rooney > Sanchez + Lukaku 2FT

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    1. Trigg ⭐️
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      But then how are you going to get Serge?

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      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        already have him!

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        1. Trigg ⭐️
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          That's how, then.

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      2. Fifa las vegas
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Who?

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        1. Your Mum's Athletic
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Aguero

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    2. Nomar
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Do it.

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      pens?

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      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        lukaku is on penalties and I'll have Sanchez....

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    4. Nabs Kebabs
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      MCI, tot, CHE, swa, wba, LIV, MUN, ars

      lol

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      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        sot - 2 goals..... lol

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        1. Nabs Kebabs
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          what do they have to do with it?

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          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            away at southampton would be a difficult fixture and he's just scored 2 goals in 45 minutes....

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            1. Nabs Kebabs
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Southampton defence overrated as i said a few pages back, they have lost key players.

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  5. SouthCoastSaint
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    But look at that pitch though

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    1. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      🙂

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  6. Fifa las vegas
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Here I was thinking Southampton would destroy them. Bye bye Cedric, maybe even Tadic for Payet, will see. Maybe I should just give up altogether?

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  7. foreverton
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Barkley and Lukaku, not even mad

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  8. d1sable
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    8 years, 10 months ago

    I must be flying in the dead team challenge with Lukaku!

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  9. icywrists23
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    barkley is looking like a good prospect imo

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  10. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Shocked by just how bad Southampton have been in all departments today

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  11. Shearer & Sutton
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    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Next week many players sell Pelle for Lukaku.

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  12. Niemi
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Time to replace Stekelenburg? Southampton look awful at the back.

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  13. Jazz!
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    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    If Manè doesn't score in the 2nd half

    We RIOT!

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    1. The Blackadder
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I'm in.

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  14. amol
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Cedric out, truly is sh*t

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    1. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      The rest of the Saints have impressed you? Cedric has not been that bad

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  15. Les Bleus
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    So everyone is going to get Lukaku for next GW. He will blank for 4-5 GWs in a row. And people will sell in masses.

    It happens every year!

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  16. Squires FC
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Everton putting on a counter attacking master class. Man there's gonna be alot of rooney-->lukaku today

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  17. BrockLanders
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Another poor game week incoming

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  18. dmhomag
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Trollkaku only does well with low ownership. When people bring him in he fails.

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  19. HVT
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Southampton are so 2014/15 lads - please keep up!

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  20. icywrists23
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    sou midfield is very weak. Its men vs boys out there right now

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  21. Wouter
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    2 pts from 3, picking up right where we left off. 🙂

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  22. Nomar
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    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Southampton and West Ham both showing why pre season form means nothing once the real games begin.

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    1. The Chosen One...
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      And Arsenal of course

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    2. aehii
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      are you saying it's best to do the opposite of what pre season suggests?

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      1. Nomar
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        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        By the looks of it, yes.

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    3. Squires FC
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Slightly unfair on west ham. 1 game 1 win

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  23. Royal5
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    This Game Week is off to an even worse start that GW 1 😆

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    1. bacary lasagna
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      On 1 from 2 players atm

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      1. bacary lasagna
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        + a hit

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  24. aehii
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    My impression of Lukaku was that he'd never score another goal ever again. I don't know what to think now.

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    1. Leaf
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      He'd blank at home to Scunthorpe & get a Hatty at the Nou camp

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      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        this 😆

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  25. Somalion
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    8 years, 10 months ago

    Looks like the exodus of players may be catching Southampton finally.

    I did say last season I was unsure of some of Koeman's purchases...

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    1. Alan Kernaghan
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah, mate because Tadic, Long, Pelle and Mane have been such awful signings. Go away out of that.

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      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Well, that's actually part of my point.

        Mane was good in patches, and a decent player. Bertrand a good one. Pelle had a great start and died off massively, is only okay at best. Long a decent bench player, but again nothing wonderful at all. As for Tadic, still don't think he's great by any means.

        He's had a mixed bag, some are good, some are bad. But there's some deluded opinion on here, probably because everyone likes Southampton, that they can do no wrong.

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        1. Mark
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          • 17 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Paul mentioned to me that Mane scored at a faster rate in home matches than any other midfielder last term. He should have scored at Newcastle and he could have scored already today. Pelle has three goals in three competitive matches so he had form going into this.

          I concede the Southampton defence looks very shaky without Toby but that's was a "suck it and see" situation, we have that in mind now but, for me, both Pelle and Mane went into this game with form and as strong prospects. I think that will continue to be the case, particularly with Mane - I'd still expect 10+ goals from him.

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          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Mane is a decent one, I'm not worried about him from an FPL stand point at all and I agree that you will see him get goals.

            My issue is more that Koeman has received next to no criticism for some of his purchases, and I simply don't think they're all that. Pelle is fine, but I think it was something like a 6 game blank without a goal and a 14 game blank without a goal last season for him? Tadic, I guess it depends on what you expected, but I would say he hasn't lived up to the name that surrounded him. Long is okay, will score a couple of goals here and there, and an alright worker, so suited to a sub role imo, but again nothing terrific.

            As for the defence, yes it is very poor, as expected with the departures. I like Clasie, a good purchase, but some questions over those he brought into the backline. Early days yet, will not judge.

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        2. Alan Kernaghan
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          They have been very shrewd purchases.And the performances, goals and return of European football has backed this up. They look tired today as most clubs do when they start a season after juggling preseason and european football.

          Although this Summer, with the cash they surely have, they should have attempted a couple of major coups.

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          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            They've played very nicely under him, I agree. But what I'm getting at is specifically his purchases. The CM was already established, as were the likes of Fonte and Clyne (both very important for them imo). I am certainly not saying he didn't do well with some buys, far from that. But a player like Pelle, who leads the line all season, and can blank in 29 league matches, is a bit crap imo. I accept they got some players cheap, Tadic, Mane etc. were decent in the sense they spent little, and some like Mane have done well for that price.

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            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              And I agree with you, they earned some big money, and aside from Clasie, I've not thought the signings too good.

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  26. Alan Kernaghan
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Can Southampton boycott Europe................. they look tired and uninventive and not that bothered tbh

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  27. The Chosen One...
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    8 years, 10 months ago

    As a Pelle and Mane owner and no Saints defend there's still hope

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    1. Dr Kenneth Noisewater
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      This is the only hope I have left to hold onto.

      Pelle (c) too...

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  28. The Mandalorian
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    8 years, 10 months ago

    Lukaku could have a breakout season, Ross Barkley is another who could make a mockery of his 6.5 price tag. Both of these players have scored against big teams.

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  29. Arvin-ation
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    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Mane(C) + Pelle. Fantastic.

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    1. boc610
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      have you heard about the second half they've added to matches now?

      just came in this season

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      1. The Nuttman
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        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        45 more mins, that sounds exciting!

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    2. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Wait till the games over. If anything thats good for you.

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    3. boc610
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      apologise for being facetious but peoples expectations on here are very unrealistic

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      1. Mark
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        • 17 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Yep, there is no form guide yet, we're going to get this - like I said in the Preamble, we're desperate for sure-bets but there are very few. Southampton clearly aren't and, to be fair, nor are Everton.

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    4. Mark
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      • 17 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Same here, and with Cedric. It's tough - it was very difficult to see Everton turn up and dominate but that's what happened.

      Still, are folk really bailing on Southampton when there's 45 minutes and Watford and Norwich up next?

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      1. JÆKS ⭐
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Might give Gomis a chance instead of Pelle if he (Gomis) delivers again today

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  30. FrancescoLazio
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    8 years, 10 months ago

    JRod on at HT. I guess tadic out

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    1. Fifa las vegas
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      8 years, 10 months ago

      Ffs, really? Jesus, Cedric and Tadic screwing me 🙁

      And when I ditch Tadic I just know he'll explode 😐

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    2. Mark
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      8 years, 10 months ago

      Yep, Tadic is just so wasteful. Shame - he's got talent.

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