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Dugout Discussion – Swansea vs Newcastle

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After Burnley’s Chris Wood condemned Crystal Palace to a fourth successive loss, we turn to the Liberty Stadium in Sunday’s second, and final, fixture at 4pm.

Having grabbed their first win of the season in the previous round of fixtures, Swansea now have the chance to play their way into our plans ahead of an outstanding upcoming home schedule.

From Gameweek 6 onwards, Paul Clement’s side entertain Watford, Huddersfield, Leicester, Brighton, Bournemouth and West Brom in their subsequent six matches at the Liberty.

With that in mind, Tammy Abraham- at just 5.5 – has the chance to emerge as a valid option for our three-man frontlines.

After opening his account for the season at Selhurst Park, the on-loan striker grabbed a goal and assist for England U21s over the recent international break. He’s partnered by Jordan Ayew, with Wilfried Bony on the hosts’ bench.

The Swans’ new arrival Renato Sanches is fast-tracked into the starting XI after joining on loan from Bayern Munich on transfer deadline day. Over 116,000 Fantasy Premier League managers acquired the Portuguese international ahead of Gameweek 4.

Similar to their hosts, Newcastle are also braced for a strong run of matches in front of their own fans – five of their next six home matches sees Stoke, Palace, Bournemouth, Watford and Leicester visit St James’ Park.

New boy Joselu leads the line again after scoring on his first start in the 3-0 win over West Ham last time around.

At 5.5, he could rival Abraham in the budget bracket up front, though Christian Atsu’s prospects in midfield are dealt a blow as he drops to the visitors’ bench.

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  1. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I can see the headlines already... Player who was not mean't to be on the pitch wins the day for Newcastle

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    1. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'd take that

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    2. Fred54
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Bit harsh on Shelvey, he can play sometimes.

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        🙂

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  2. The Big Fella
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    FFS Ritchie

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  3. Pariße
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Not the same as Mané's. Dangerous play as well, but Mane literally knocked Ederson out, Ritchie never touched Mawson. Yellow rughtfully given.

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    1. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I agree...there's a fine line between the two incidences but the decisions have both been spot on

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      1. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Completely true. Shawcross' legbreaking challenge on Ramsey in 2011, for example, was not intentional, dangerous play with a terrible outcome - red. Dangerous play without a touch - yellow.

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    2. Captain Roberto
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Careless, reckless, using excessive force
      “Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution. • No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless
      “Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent. • A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned
      “Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent. • A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

      Both high-feet were exactly the same. Careless, at most Reckless. Both should only have been Yellow cards.

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      1. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        It is still up to the ref to determine the level of danger and base the decision on that. Mane was in full sprint jumped and nearly took Ederson's head off. It was a red, same goes for unintentional leg breaks (that's why I've given an example).

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      2. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Mane's challenge was excesive force since it was done in full sprint.

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        1. Captain Roberto
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          so was Ritchie's. he was sprinting for that ball. and he also jumped.

          The only difference between the two situations is that Mawson rolled out the way of Ritchie's foot and Ederson shut his eyes and went straight in to Mane's.

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  4. ★Kuntheman★
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Thank gosh for FPL giving games like this some minor form of meaning

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  5. tm245
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Renato looks around, realizes his teammates' kits say Swansea, passes to the a nonthreatening area and begins to weep inside.

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    1. Simon69
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Hasn't exactly been a cut above.

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  6. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    At least Ritchie is consistent.

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    1. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Lolz

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  7. Sterling is £11Mill..…
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    anyone looking at Vardy? Must be a viable option

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    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Good option criminally overlooked by the herd.

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      1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        think im going to go for him at elast he ahs some consistnecy, efd up messing with theird striker with firmino, tammy, chicha. Vardy has more consistency and can be somewhat explosive and his price is pretty awesome

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    2. Fred54
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      There's already 6 forwards I want. Not another one bro.

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    3. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Too many other options at the moment

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    4. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes. Keep him to ourselves let them chew the grass.

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    5. thorvaldsson
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'm getting Mahrez

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  8. Captain Roberto
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Isn't high feet against someone heading the ball a straight Red these days?

    Zero consistency across the Refs. 49th minute Ritchie would have been sent off in Man City Liverpool match just like Mane.

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    1. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No. Ritchie never touched him, Mane knocked him out, can't you see the difference? Both decisions were correct.

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      1. Captain Roberto
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        it's you that isn't seeing the similarity. Both Ritchie and Mane were sprinting, both jumped, both went for t head high ball that another player was going to head. Whether he was "knocked out" (which he clearly wasn't) is neither here nor there.

        The difference comes from the actions of Ederson and Mawson ( I think it was him). One went in to the boot full tilt eyes shut, the other moved his head away as he saw the boot coming.

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  9. SEXY SOLO SAUCE FOR THE LAS…
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    How does this look?

    Foster
    Alonso | Jones | Davies
    Salah | Ramsey | Gross | Atsu
    Kane | Lukaku | Jesus

    Elliot | Lowe | RLC | Tuanzebe

    Thanks

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    1. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Midfield is weak but with Alonso and that front three it's always going to happen

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      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE FOR THE LAS…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Very true

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  10. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    No Liverpool players currently but thinking of Ox as a replacement for Ritchie or Willian given he should start in mane's suspension.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Andriy Shevchenko is Back
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No way

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    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No chance. Won't play enough

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    3. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He'll likely play less for Liverpool than he would have at Arsenal. Avoid for now, and possibly all season

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      1. ShaunGoater123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah I don't think he's a long term option, just thinking that he might get the next couple with sadio suspended and have no other Liverpool

        That's pretty conclusive though, avoid!

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      2. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Exactly...which makes me question his right mind in a season before WC even more.

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    4. Donkey_Sanctuary
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Put down the crack pipe

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  11. Fanta sea
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    That's a red card. Only reason he stays on the pitch is because Lawson didn't make a meal of it. It's like going down in the box to get a penalty due to slight contact. If you don't go down, the ref won't give the penalty 9/10 times.

    Refs need to be consistent.

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    1. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Gotta re-check the football law. 🙂

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  12. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Does anybody use the watchlist feature on the main FPL website?

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    1. Fred54
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes.

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      1. The Royal Robin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Find it useful?

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        1. Fred54
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Sometimes when I'm messing around on the transfers page I add potential targets to the list because I often log into FPL on multiple devices and said targets may be long term etc.

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  13. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    For me, Mane and Ritchie both did identical movements. Exactly the same action. The only difference is Ederson threw his head towards the ball and Mawson didn't. Shouldn't be a change of colour based on what the other player does imo.

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    1. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Speed, contact and outcome were completely different. The football law makes both decisions correct.

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      1. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        You're wrong. The only reason the outcome is different is because Mawson actively moves his head out of the way of Ritchie's flying boot. The actions of Mane and Ritchie are identical, therefore both should be treated identically. Mane shouldn't be punished more because Ederson left his head in and Mawson chose to move his.

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        1. Pariße
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yes and this is a factor. The level of danger is different.

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  14. LǝgleSs e|even
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is Mkhi still good to keep?

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    1. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      For now

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    2. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'm wishing I'd chosen Pogba on my WC, but he's still a good option. In a forward role, he's in the points. Only concern will be his playing time when the CL starts.

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    3. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Why wouldn't he be
      Assists in every game except yesterday and he basically assisted one yesterday too but lukaku netted at second attempt

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  15. HD7
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    WC Team:

    Foster
    BDavies Jones Cedric Naughton
    Salah Pogba Ramsey
    Morata Kaku Kane

    Subs: Elliot, T Caroll, Cork, Mbemba

    Looking forward to your feedback

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    1. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Bench is too weak

      Other 11 decent

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    2. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Template, can't knock it. I'd start Elliot over Foster next week FWIW.

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      1. HD7
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks 🙂 My team was actually with Betrand Luiz and Atsu instead of Cedric Naughton and Ramsey but the missing of Atsu makes me wonder...

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        1. The Royal Robin
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          He's just come on, keep a close eye.

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          1. HD7
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah hope he scores mate... have elliot danilo and caroll on the bench..

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  16. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Carroll nearly scored ..TWICE

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  17. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Would you Wildcard this team?

    Foster Elliot
    Alonso Bailly Bertrand Monreal
    Mane Alli Mkhitaryan Atsu T.Carroll
    Lukaku Morata Quaner

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    1. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No
      Get Kane

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  18. tm245
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    That was nice.

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  19. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Omg Carroll so close 🙁

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    1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      if Carroll scores lol the hypocrisy on here will be incredible. From zero to hero

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  20. Cookie Kid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    In what minute will Tom Carroll score the winner today?

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  21. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Tammy is too raw for the Prem.

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    1. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He is only 19, it's worth remembering that. I think he's going to become a hell of a player though.

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  22. trinzoo
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Naughton still very attacking!

    For Britos:
    A) Mbemba
    B) Naughton

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  23. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Atsu coming on

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  24. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    TCarroll not getting returns here would be unlucky.

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  25. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Come on tc, grab a goal my son

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    1. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      This. Win me my h2h tom
      Its on a knife edge

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  26. TheTinman
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Absolute nonsense spouted on here. They are not the same incident.

    On the match Perez is useless. It's like Newcastle play with 10 men

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  27. tm245
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Become the alpha, Renato.

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  28. Gobigorgohome
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Freekick

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  29. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Sanches , leave it to TC

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  30. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Sanches has been awful

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