Dugout Discussion

Dugout Discussion – Man City vs West Ham

After Bournemouth and Southampton shared the spoils at the Vitality Stadium, Gameweek 15 comes to a close as Manchester City entertain West Ham United at 4pm.

Arguably, Pep Guardiola’s latest selection surprise is the inclusion of Leroy Sane on today’s teamsheet.

The German – who has four double-digit hauls in his last five at home – recovers from a midweek illness and is handed a ninth start in ten Gameweeks.

Yet a booking today would rule Sane out of next week’s Manchester derby – clearly a factor in his manager’s decision to bench both Vincent Kompany and Fernandinho, who also sit on four yellows.

Up against a Hammers defence that was ranked bottom for goals against heading into Saturday’s deadline, the hosts are heavily backed.

Four of City’s starting XI are among the top 13 armband picks for Gameweek 15 – Sergio Aguero (8.8%) is their most captained, ahead of Kevin De Bruyne (4.2%) Sane (1.7%) and Raheem Sterling (1.4%).

It’s not so good news for the 3.3% who captained Gabriel Jesus (3.3%), though – transferred in by over 59,000 for this one, the Brazilian drops down to the bench.

Fantasy interest in the Hammers is minimum at best due to their poor start to the season.

One goal scored and seven conceded in three matches under David Moyes suggests that targeting their opponents as a source of attacking returns could prove a profitable tactic.

And there’s no respite to their evil start in December, with home encounters against Chelsea and Arsenal up next.

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  1. Lukakwho
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Is Sane and Dann >> Hazard and 4.5 DEF sensible?

    1. Clintymints
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Haz and Sane?

    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Yes, get Dunk/Zegelaar

      1. Lukakwho
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        Ok thanks, shall I do it now to catch price rise?

        1. We Will Klopp you
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 5 months ago

          Yes if funds are tight

    3. Orange Roughy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Yep. Wish my road to Hazard was that easy.

    4. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Yep!

  2. AFC49
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Wildcard to get Hazard in?

    Pope
    Azpi, Ward, Daniels
    Salah, Sterling, Groß, Richarlison
    Morata, Kane, Vardy

    Elliot, RLC, Kolasinac, Mariappa

    1FT, 0.2 ITB

    1. the snazzy viking
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      why is Kola on the bench? should be 1st name on the sheet out of those defenders

      1. AFC49
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        Fair enough mate, but that's not the point lol

        1. the snazzy viking
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 5 months ago

          don't WC

  3. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Sane to Coutinho for free?

    1. OLLY G
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      That's what i'm considering. Looks like the home tbh. Pool with 4 home games in 6 vs United and Spurs in the next 3 for City. Not to mention the Coutinho price rises and Sane drops.

      1. OLLY G
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        * move tbh

      2. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        Yep, all of this!

        Sane on the tightrope as well.

    2. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Considering the same.

  4. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Rooney feels overlooked in that 3rd striker option. He won't be consistent and will score in lumps, but he does have a knack of picking up assists.

    1. Cojiro
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Awkward price to blame I reckon.

  5. FC Hakkebøf
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Which move would you prefer? 🙂

    A) Mustafi to Christensen
    B) Cameron to Kenny
    C) Sane to Coutinho (kneejerk-ish, but city have a tougher fixture list and liverpool is on fire)
    D) Roll over FT

    (Full team linked in profile)

    1. rvp786
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      a

    2. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      I'm going to do C I think, but if Mustafi is out go for A

    3. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      A

      1. FC Hakkebøf
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        Sane dropping and cou rising is hurting me

    4. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      A

    5. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      A

  6. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Fab
    Azpi dunk Daniels
    Haz Salah rich sane
    Kane Morata abra
    Subs:elliot rlc mee Naughton
    1ft 0.1 itb
    A) do sane to couts today
    B) wait for next week to do Daniels +sane to couts + Kiko
    How to ship Naughton or just keep him as bench fodder
    Or any other suggestions?
    Or gtg???

  7. Spartac Mac
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    What we think of these for -4pts?

    Aguero > DCL
    Fernandinho > Coutinho
    Cork > Ramsey

    1. wulfrunian
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      yes

    2. Cojiro
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Treat yourself

    3. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Great moves

    4. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Good moves mate

    5. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

  8. wulfrunian
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    A lot of options but it was a really bad gw and i have 2 ft.What would you do?Thanks for any help.
    Begovis-Elliot
    Kola-Davies-Gomez-Dann-Rosenior
    Mahrez-Gross-TC-Salah-Sane
    Kane-Kun-Rondon
    2ft 0.2itb

    A)Kun+Sane->Firmino+Hazard
    B)Kun+Sane->Morata+Coutinho
    C)Sane+Mahrez->Hazard+Richarlison
    D)Sane+Kola->Hazard+Zeegelaar
    E)Kun+Sane+Rondon->Firmino+Hazard+Benteke(-4)
    F)Kun+Sane+Rondon->Morata+Hazard+DCL(-4)
    G)Kun+Sane+Mahrez->Morata+Hazard+Ramsey(-4)

    1. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      No mention of taking out Kane... Lol.

    2. Veezeeboy
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      B or G. G if you're feeling adventurous

    3. the snazzy viking
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      F

    4. wulfrunian
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      thanks

  9. MidTableFantasy
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Cortois Elliot
    Mee Daniels Moreno Dunk Goldson
    Salah Silva Sterling Gross RLC
    Kane Morata Jesus

    Jesus + Gross > DCL + Hazard to play a 3-5-2?

    Worried about having Jesus and NOT having Eden.

  10. Duffy Dunk
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Feeling like losing Kane.. any big couches to hide behind when he plays Stoke and Brighton?

    1. KISSES
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      You'll be fine, he isnt very good at home.

    2. Veezeeboy
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Thinking of doing the same.

    3. Clintymints
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Starting to question his fitness

  11. KISSES
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Eriksen and Sane out for Ramsey and Hazard sound good?

    1. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Yep

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Yes!

  12. applebonkers
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    aguero's scores now city stopped winning penalties for him. guy is struggling big time, doubts over starts is a secondary issue if anything

    1. KISSES
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Jesus brings more to the game for me, gotta start the derby

      1. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        Jesus is a better player.

        1. applebonkers
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 5 months ago

          he's had a chance to really grasp 1st choice these last couple of months but hasn't really done so.
          agree he's the man for pep to back now though

          1. ZaZaZu
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 5 months ago

            Aguero is a proven, class premier league striker. He's one of the top scorers in the premier league this season. The last 3 games he's been man marked by 2-3 players against teams with 10 men behind the ball. Jesus maybe a better option in these types of games but the fact is Aguero will up there as potential golden boot winner this season.

            1. applebonkers
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 5 months ago

              rvp was proven in his 2nd season at man utd, rooney was proven a couple of years ago, moving positions rio ferdinand was proven in his last couple of seasons at man utd. if you pass your physical peak it doesn't matter how proven you are, the top level is unforgiving

              1. ZaZaZu
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 5 months ago

                His style doesnt perfectly suit Citys possession and one touch passing perhaps but to say he is past his physical peak is rubbish, 100% disagree with that statement.

                1. ZaZaZu
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 5 months ago

                  He's not even 30 for goodness sake

                  1. applebonkers
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 14 Years
                    6 years, 5 months ago

                    nor was rooney. rooney started playing at 16, aguero 15. mileage in the legs

                    1. ZaZaZu
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 5 months ago

                      im not getting into an discussion about this, ridiculous. Agree to disagree.

                      1. applebonkers
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 14 Years
                        6 years, 5 months ago

                        fair. agree with you the style doesn't suit him too well.
                        urge you to watch old clips of aguero just to see the difference over 10 yards

        2. Qaiss
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 5 months ago

          That's a strong statement

    2. Cojiro
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Agree, the rotation isn’t too bad if you’ve got a stocked bench and he scores well when playing.

    3. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      jesus is the better player right now. won't alter peps perception though

  13. sentz05
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Who is the best 5 - 8 million pound striker to have? Wilson goes and scored a hatrick and then gets benched!

    1. Veezeeboy
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Austin if you're willing to trust his quality, no great fixtures.
      or Rooney. Dcl /Niasse situation is unclear

    2. Rik Waller
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney maybe

  14. Pap Boomez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Who is more nailed
    A. Holgate
    B. Kenny

    1. OLLY G
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Kenny

    2. Veezeeboy
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      B

  15. OLLY G
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Bit of a random question, but is Mariappa a pick l should aim to get in seeing as he is 4.1m, appears nailed and Watford have good fixtures coming up?

    1. Cojiro
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Not random, solid pick

    2. Veezeeboy
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Got him in last week. They are playing a three man defence, he should play 3/5 weeks. Good enough.

    3. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      He's not nailed is the only problem, with other CBs coming back to fitness. But a good 5th defender for sure.

  16. ZeBestee
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Sane 》 Coutinho or ride the price changes till after CL games?

    1. OLLY G
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      I'm thinking about going tonight tbh as it is a difference of 0.2m for me. Let's be honest, the only way Coutinho will miss the Liverpool derby is if he gets badly injured.

      1. ZeBestee
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        There is always the issue of injuries and fatigue. But i think Mane will start the midweek game

    2. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      I'm also pulling the trigger tonight. Even though Sane's is a free drop for me...

  17. Deece
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    2 FT 0.0m in bank

    Courtois
    Mustafi* Daniels Mee
    Hazard Salah Silva Sterling RLC
    Kane Morata

    Elliot Naughton Mbemba McBurnie

    A) Silva + Mustafi -> Cout + Kiko
    B) Silva + Daniels -> Cout + Mariapa
    C) Kane + RLC -> Cout + Firmino
    D) other

  18. walkman666
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Have to 2 ft, own salah, and own Sane. I have no other man city attack, yet feel it is time to sell Sane to Coutinho. Could wait until after champions league matches. Thoughts? Thanks.

    1. KISSES
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      If you arent pressed with prices, I'd wait.

    2. OLLY G
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      See above.

    3. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks. My bad for not fully reading and see two others had already asked this same question. To summarize then, it seems that a few of us are considering sane to Coutinho, amd I think it makes sense. Pool are hotter, and man city have unpredictable rotation.

      1. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        Same here with no other City cover, but based on the last few games can easily get by until after the Spurs game.

  19. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Today's avg?

    1. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      44-45 i think

  20. xRedArrow
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Choose:

    A) Dunk (4.4, 3 YCs, better goal threat- G and OGs)

    B) Duffy (4.6, 4 YCs, better BAPS)

    1. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      A, no need to pay 0.2m extra

  21. The White Pele
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    planning to make these transfers in the next 2 gws ( 2ft & a hit ) :
    Alonso, RLC, TC, Morata > Christensen, Shaqiri, Coutinho, rooney.

    team will be:
    DDG
    Christensen, Kiko, Mee
    Haz, Salah, Coutinho, Sane, Shaqiri
    Kane, Rooney
    (Elliott, niasse, Holgate, Rosenior)
    what do you think?

    1. FFSbet.com
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Alonso,Morata and RLC season keepers i think.

      1. The White Pele
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        ok, cheers.

  22. Lecky Legs FC
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    What to do with this squad done Gray & Rojo > Cahill & Ndidi for free this GW which blew back my fave horribly?

    Pope
    Cahill Mee Mustafi
    KDB Salah (C) Sane Ndidi
    Aguero Diouf Kane (VC)

    Subs: Elliot, Carroll,Dunk & Mariappa

    1 FT £0 ITB

  23. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Pope Elliot
    Alonso Walker Moreno Kolasinac Hunemeier
    Salah(V) Sterling Richarlison Choupo RLC
    Kane (C) Morata Abraham
    2ft, 0.9m itb.
    I have to get Hazard!
    A) Sterling&Walker to Hazard&Mee(or other max 4.9)
    B) Morata&Choupo to Austin&Hazard
    C) Other idea

    1. Steve Stiffler
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      A probably

    2. FFSbet.com
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      A

  24. Lee8686
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    If I started with Niasse as part of a 3-4-3 but he didn't play and my first sub was Surman will I get the 7 points for surman??

    1. Flynny
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Aye

    2. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

    3. Lee8686
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Sweet 🙂 dream team novice

      1. walkman666
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        Good for you, man. Enjoy.

    4. Lee8686
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Cheers buddy....3rd 70 plus point haul in a row now....should be well inside the top 200k now 🙂

  25. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Hi all....i have 0.5itb and 2fts.

    Plan is Jesus to morata tonight ahead of moratas rise.

    And then mustafi to christiensen if mustafi injured

    Does that sound sensible?

    Fab Elliot
    Ota mustafi daniels ward wimmer
    Hazard salah Silva richarlison rlc
    Kane jesus niasse

    Thanks

    1. Lee8686
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Yea decent changes I recon....I stopped playing the man city guessing game 3 weeks ago and profiting massively from it

    2. Steve Stiffler
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      yeah sounds 100% good changes

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers lads...

  26. twaid
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    A) Wilson, Mustafi > Murray, Kolasinac
    B) Wilson, Mustafi > DCL, Alonso/Azpi

    1. Lee8686
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      Closeout A just

    2. FFSbet.com
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      B

  27. Cubillas
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Btw, now that Pogba is suspended for 3 matches, do we know whether all of them are Premier games, or are there any other cup competitions in which he could play which would reduce the amount of Premier matches he'd miss?

  28. Danno - Emre Canada
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Sorry with my team this time, might help. So how the hell do I get Salah into this team? It seems to me it will be the City assets that scored points today would have to go, with maybe getting Ramsey as well.
    Pope - Elliot

    Otamendi - Alonso - Daniels - Moreno - Ward

    Silva - Sterling - Hazard - Surman - Richcharlison

    Kane - Morata - Niasse

    2fts 0.1 ITB any suggestions appreciated. Thanks

  29. We Will Klopp you
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    0.1m itb, Anyone see a hit worth taking?

    Pope (Elliott)
    Azpi Otamendi Daniels Dunk (Ward)
    Salah (H)azard Sterling Richarlison (RLC)
    Kane Morata (Niasse)

    1. Steve Stiffler
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      no looks solid, give Kane this week to see how he gets on

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers

  30. Francescoli
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 5 months ago

    Pope
    Zeegelaar Naughton Daniels
    Hazard (c) Salah Sterling Richarlison
    Kane Firmino Morata

    Elliot; Mee RLC Mbemba

    Am I doing the right thing by benching Mee and RLC?

    1. Lee8686
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 5 months ago

      I'd rather have Mee than Daniels starting....just