Scout Notes

Salah and Mané show promise despite blanks against Spurs

Saturday’s early kick-off proved a nervy one for Fantasy Premier League managers who had sold Liverpool assets.

The Reds were comfortably the better team at Wembley but ultimately their highly-owned Fantasy assets could not convert that into points.

In this latest Scout Notes article, we’ve taken a look at exactly how that could impact the Fantasy landscape going forward.

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 1-2 LIVERPOOL

Goals: Erik Lamela (£6.4m) | Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.5m), Roberto Firmino (£9.4m)

Assists: Christian Eriksen (£9.3m)

The decision of some Fantasy managers to reduce the size of their Liverpool contingent was justified on Saturday lunch-time. However, several of the Reds’ premium assets were close to registering points in the match and could still offer potential going forward.

Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) blanked for the second match in a row but was joint-top for shots in the box for the encounter. His colleague Sadio Mané (£10.0m) registered the same number as him, with an additional effort outside the penalty area to boot.

Furthermore, Salah was joint-top in the match for chances created while Mané could have registered an assist were it not for an unorthodox combination of touches on his cross for Roberto Firmino‘s (£9.4m) goal.

Jan Vertonghen (£6.0m) touched his square pass onto the post, it cannoned back off it across the goal-line before Michel Vorm (£5.0m) got a touch in trying to claim it. That left Firmino unchallenged to tap in, but Mané should definitely take credit for his part in the goal, even if it was not worthy of an assist.

Liverpool were the much more attacking side and on any other day, either of Salah or Mané might have recorded some attacking returns. Their underlying numbers certainly suggest they still have something to offer, even if they were outshone by Eden Hazard‘s (£10.7m) hat-trick later in the day. Manager Jurgen Klopp admitted that the scoreline was not a fair reflection of the match and that his side could have scored more.

“The performance today, for me, was better than the result. The result is the most important and was perfect, winning here is unbelievably difficult and you can never expect that.” – Jurgen Klopp

James Milner (£5.6m) may well prove better value than his premium-priced colleagues at a time when Fantasy managers are contemplating reducing their spend on Liverpool options.

He played the same number of key passes in the match as Salah, is also on set pieces and is the designated penalty taker when he is on the pitch.

There was some uncertainty over Milner’s place in the side during pre-season, but he has now started every Premier League match so far. In that time he has set up two goals and scored one of his own. At Wembley, it was his corner which led to Georginio Wijnaldum‘s (£5.5m) headed goal although he was not credited with an assist.

Firmino now has two goals in his last two games but may be a doubt for Gameweek 6. He picked up an eye injury after Vertonghen caught him in the face with his hand. Further assessment is required for the Brazilian.

Despite conceding a late Erik Lamela (£6.4m) goal, Liverpool’s defence is still proving that they are still worth investing in, even if their fixtures look difficult.

Spurs offered little going forward and none of their three shots on target was considered to be a big chance. That means Liverpool remain the best side in the league for big chances allowed.

“Defending against the ball, we were brilliant. We caused Tottenham a lot of problems in these situations. They are so good and so tuned and do it so confidently to pass through the lines that you need to be outstandingly brave and ready to close these gaps. They are really big sometimes, so it’s really difficult. But we did that, and I was happy with the ball how we controlled the game.” – Jurgen Klopp

However, it does appear that paying upwards of £6.0m for Andrew Robertson may prove too much when options such as Trent Alexander-Arnold (£5.0m) and Joe Gomez (£5.0m) are also available. The former continued to take direct free-kicks at Wembley and could easily start to find some returns soon. His owners can certainly consider themselves a little lucky that he was substituted before Lamela’s late goal and banked clean sheet points.

Fantasy managers interested in Liverpool should also make themselves aware of Klopp’s repeated suggestions of rotation. Saturday’s match saw just Jordan Henderson (£5.3m) come out of the side, with Naby Keita (£7.4m) coming in. But it’s PSG in the Champions League on Tuesday night and more changes are expected for Gameweek 6.

“I’m not sure if we can do it on Tuesday and then next Saturday again. We have to show that. Then we have to play against Paris Saint-Germain. They won yesterday without Neymar and Mbappe so they could rest players in the league, but that’s Tuesday and not today.” – Jurgen Klopp

As for Spurs, it was another sluggish display for Harry Kane (£12.5m). He had just two shots in the match as he continues to underperform when it comes to underlying numbers. Yet again, he dropped deep trying to win possession and simply does not look worth spending £12.5m of our FPL budgets on.

Manager Mauricio Pochettino was asked if Kane was being affected by playing in a two-man attack with Lucas Moura (£7.3m) but refused to give much of a substantial answer.

“I think I respect every single opinion, but for me, it’s a collective problem. I am not going to put the finger on some player. I am happy with all the players. The circumstances are the circumstance. I told you the challenge is massive this season. We need to give time to the players to get their best and of course to show our potential in time.” – Mauricio Pochettino

Spurs’ defence does not look particularly trustworthy either. They still have just one clean in 2018/19, look vulnerable on the counter-attack and down their right-flank especially. Michel Vorm (£5.0m) was somewhat at fault for Wijnaldum’s first-half goal and even though Pochettino refused to blame him for it, his decision making in key moments was poor. His presence in the Spurs goal reduces the appeal of defensive assets further with Hugo Lloris (£5.5m) out injured.

“That is a mistake from…if you ask me if it was his mistake, I think it wasn’t his mistake because maybe my vision is different. Was a complicated situation. If you analyse the action then maybe you put the focus on a different player. Michel was involved and the team, which is responsible and I am responsible but it wasn’t the problem with not getting the three points today, I am happy with his performance. It is not easy in four seasons to be in the shadow of Lloris.” – Mauricio Pochettino

At the very least, Pochettino is prepared to admit that his team is not performing at its best, although he would not attribute it entirely to the World Cup. No Premier League side had more players still present in Russia by the final weekend of the summer tournament.

“I don’t want now to complain about the World Cup. From the beginning, I told you it’s a massive challenge, the toughest season since we started. It’s a challenge to work with a team that arrived a few days before the start of the competition. But I’m not going to complain. I think because after three victories all was fantastic and now after two defeats, it’s not a disaster. The most important is to keep the balance. I am not worried I promise you. We are going to win a lot of games. I trust completely in my squad, not 100 per cent but 200 per cent. That is my feeling. I’ve not changed my feeling from one or two months ago.” – Mauricio Pochettino

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR XI (4-2-3-1): Vorm, Trippier, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Rose, Dier (Wanyama 83′), Dembele (Lamela 59’), Winks (Son 73′), Eriksen, Lucas, Kane.

LIVERPOOL XI (4-3-3): Alisson, Alexander-Arnold (Matip 90′), Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Keita (Sturridge 83′), Milner, Salah, Firmino (Henderson 74′), Mane.

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4,978 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Bruce Lee
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Guess the arrow?

    50 OR
    1.5m GWR

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Cupid?

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Black

    3. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      gray, no change

    4. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Slight green

    5. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      50 OR!!! Wow

      1. caldracula
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Not anymore

    6. Point-one short
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      At a guess down to around 5k?

  2. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    What are the chances that some of the Liverpool defenders get rested next week?

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      You will not get an informed answer

  3. Stevie B
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Mane and Pedro -> Hazard and Fraser for free (I have two free transfers)?

    Mane has not a difficult game. But Hazard has West Ham and the Hammers are not much better than the Saints.

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I wouldn't myself

    2. caldracula
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Seems like your chasing points with them moves, I think keep mane for the saints game, also keep an eye on Pedro/Willian minutes for the Europa league tie before making a decision on Pedro.

  4. Sgt Frank Drebin
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Hazard points - 4,4,8,11,20. Don't know about you guys, but I can clearly see a trend here...

    1. Bruce Lee
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Blank due

    2. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      1,3,2,5,2

    3. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Next in the sequence is 34

      1. Sgt Frank Drebin
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        That's right. And Salah - 9,8,2,2. He'll soon be getting negative points. Simple maths.

    4. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah

      Easy fixtures = points for Eden, he is no longer trolling us

    5. J T
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I’ve had him for every single one 😀

    6. Podge
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Almost a Fibonacci

      1. Sgt Frank Drebin
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        He's just a perfect player

  5. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    late to the wake any Fraser sellers about?

    1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      i got the vvd sale right not the fraser to pedro bit

    2. Tempestic
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I shipped him on WC

  6. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    If I consider Mane Wally/Pedro to Hazard Fraser, would you get rid of Wally or Pedro?

    1. MikeS
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Pedrophile

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Pedro, unfortunately, as he's not nailed on.

    3. Stevie B
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      It is not important because then the transfer next week is Wally/Pedro -> Richarlison.

    4. Atimis
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Cant make my mind if Mane out is good too

  7. MikeS
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    61 points with walcott to play and Alexander-Arnold clean sheet off the bench, red or green arrow?

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      You'll find out soon

    2. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Depends on your rank. For example if you're 1st OR than could be red, but if you're 5,000,000 OR then could be green.

      1. MikeS
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        rank 101k

        1. J T
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Should be a nice green

        2. THFC4LIFE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Green

    3. ivanthemerciless
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely a green.

  8. F4L
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    surprisingly was a resounding no earlier when I asked, but is:

    Mkhi Pedro Kun ➡ Hazard Fraser Vardy for a -4 worth it? Dropping Kun obviously not ideal, but only way to fit Hazard in, plus im expecting Kun to be benched sooner rather and later

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I wouldn't.
      But if you want to, hey, it's your team

      1. F4L
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        cheers. I think i'll role the dice and go for it

    2. spatel2
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I was thinking of doing similar last week... i.e. take kun out... which should have left me with a front line of:
      Ings, Wilson, Mitro
      Mid salah, hazard, mane, richarlison + fraser
      And def: Alonso, robertson, mendy
      And cash for premium keeper

      1. F4L
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        yeah that looks nice. Benching headache though now and again 🙂

    3. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Do it

  9. spatel2
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Pick 2
    A Aguero
    B salah
    C hazard

    1. MikeS
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      hazard and kun

    2. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      B & C

    3. polis
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Unpopular... B & C. Midfielders playing as forwards.

    4. F4L
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      probably B and C.

    5. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      BC

  10. Goalosaurus
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Watched the highlights earlier without knowing the results or lineups. Left the Bournemouth vs Lei match last as I had little interest with no players, had transferred Fraser out on my WC this week.

    1st highlight Fraser scores, 2nd highlight Fraser scores.... didn't even think the guy was going to be playing! Unreal, what a match that turned out to be.

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      You got to love those fake international injuries

    2. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      its sad that if id have known nothing about this ‘injury’ i would never have sold him. ignorance is bliss 🙁

      1. Goalosaurus
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Same, the "hamstring" got me worried, if it was just a knock probably wouldn't have moved him out

  11. MrFootieIsHere
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Bottomed:

    Would you do this?

    Pedro + Ramsey > Haz + Billing (-4) but would leave me with 0.0 before Haz price rise..

    Mid would become:
    Salah, Mane, Fraser, Hazard, Billing.

    1. Point-one short
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      What's your full team? Difficult to know whether that makes sense as if Billing has to play it's not great...

      1. MrFootieIsHere
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Sure, current team is:

        Ederson
        Mendy, Alonso, Robbo
        Mane Salah Ramsey Pedro Fraser
        Aguero Ings

        (Hamer, WB, Stankovic, Kamara)

        If I made those transfers, WB would become regular starter..

  12. Point-one short
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Preferred option from these?

    A) Salah, Stephens -> Hazard, Fraser -4
    B) Arnautovic, Stephens -> Mitro, Fraser -4
    C) Pedro, Mane -> Hazard, Fraser -4
    D) Mane -> Hazard
    E) Bilva-> Dilva

    Team currently;
    Fab/Fos
    Alonso Mendy Robertson AWB Bennett
    Salah Mane Bilva Pedro Stephens
    Kun Arnie Kamara

    1.0 itb, 1ft

    1. MTPockets
        5 years, 8 months ago

        D

      • spatel2
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        How about
        F) bilva + Arnie 》 dilva + mitro

      • Stevie B
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I would do C. Hazard and Fraser are on fire at the moment. Pedro is not nailed. But the risk is that Mane could backfire.

    2. 824545201
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Wan Bissaka is a treasure.

    3. Please Help I Don't Kn…
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Chances of Hazard getting 20+ goals this season?

      1. Podge
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        200%

      2. J T
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        75%

      3. polis
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Decent considering he's quarter of the way there already.

      4. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        98.64328% roughly.

      5. Please Help I Don't Kn…
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        If he does I'll actually admit he's top 5 in the world.

    4. Podge
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Rank updated

      1. Oven Glover
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        101K to 22K. Today was a good day 🙂

        1. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          How many points do you have total?

          1. Oven Glover
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            345

            1. andy85wsm
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              Thanks

      2. Sgt Frank Drebin
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I think I'm to afraid tho check it. I'll just wait for tomorrow's games, maybe Arnie will score a hat-trick...

    5. MikeS
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      MKHITARYAN or Pedro to Silva or Fraser or both for -4?

      1. Ha.
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Both

      2. MTPockets
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Mkhi for sure personally

      3. Ha.
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Keep Salah or Mane?

        1. Podge
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Mane

        2. MTPockets
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Salah for me but decent arguments either way

        3. COLLIN QUANER
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          170k overall rank up to 45k. 35k until I'm back to where I belong

          1. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            You meant to say 45K from where you belong.

        4. Please Help I Don't Kn…
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Currently on 88 (-4) with Patricio and Cedric to play. Pretty good I'd say after the last 3 gws.

        5. Point-one short
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          12.2k to 54k. What a rubbish gw.

          1. Please Help I Don't Kn…
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            1.7 million to 130 k 😉 Good GW but still pretty far off where I wanna be

            1. J T
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              Dam! How many points??

              1. Point-one short
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 8 months ago

                36 so far this gw, fabianski, bennett, arnie to go. Total is 333

          2. F4L
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            16k to 79k here. Annoying

        6. pressdpm
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Activate wild card now, yay or nay?

          Hennessy
          Alonso - Mendy - Wan Bissaka
          Salah - Mane - Walcott - Mhikitaryan
          Zaha - Aguero - Arnautovic

          Stekelenburg - Peltier - Cairney - Kabasele

          1. MikeS
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            no way

          2. spatel2
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Nay do 2 swaps though mhiki out tonight b4 price drops to fraser or richarlison

          3. polis
            • 12 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Nay. Why? Just transfer Mkhi.

        7. DAZZ
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          2.8K to 51K, 24 points. Onto the next one.

          1. Point-one short
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Yep. That's a painful drop. No Hazard/Fraser and this wasn't a good gw.

        8. Tempestic
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          64 with 2 to go, 300k -> 133k OR Pretty happy 🙂

        9. THFC4LIFE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          OR updated, into top 30k

        10. MikeS
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          101k to 54k with walcott and alexander- arnold clean sheet to come

        11. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          96 looks to be top score in LMS.

          1. THFC4LIFE
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Hazard triple c?

        12. norwegian-forest-cats
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Is auba worth hanging onto?
          Thinking auba + pedro -> mitro + Hazard

          Yay or nay?

          1. Please Help I Don't Kn…
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Do it. I got rid of him to Lukaku.

        13. tiger
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Hazard price rise tonight?

          1. Chucky
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            yes

        14. J T
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Green arrow today, 9pts on the bench to come and two to play tomorrow.. 5th consecutive green on the way 😀

        15. Chucky
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          1.2 m to 100k in 2 GWs... 😀

          1. J T
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Wow!