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The United players I’m backing in FPL – and the Arsenal assets I’m avoiding

It’s baaaack… and it’s relentless!

As we march onwards in these uncertain times, the deadlines keep coming and we are all having to adapt as quickly as possible as we learn about different managers’ strategies, team fitness and who’s come back raring to go.

I’ve experienced all the familiar FPL emotions over the last week and, I have to say, I’m very happy that 22 men are running around after a ball again.

I’ve watched some incredibly poor games (Everton v Liverpool was particularly turgid), experienced the joy of a last-minute winner for my side (take a bow Neal Maupay (£5.7m)) and, of course, experienced a goal for one of my players chalked off by VAR (unlucky Son Heung-min (£9.7m)).

My own FPL team has got off to a decent post-COVID start. Using the Bench Boost in Gameweek 30+ saw me nearly half my rank (up from 165k to 94k) and my Wildcard team looks set to deliver a small green arrow, despite not owning any Liverpool attackers and backing Everton to do a demolition job on Norwich City.

Back in Gameweek 11, thoughts of a top 10k finish looked laughable. But, I feel like I’ve got the wind in my sails a bit and if I can have a strong end to the season, there’s no reason why this can’t be achieved.

I want to use this piece to focus on two teams that I’ve paid particular attention to, for very different reasons.

Arsenal

I mean, this is hardly revolutionary punditry. But, I think it’s really important to consider just how bad Arsenal have been since the restart – even if they did bounce back to winning ways against Southampton.

Arsenal have conceded 30 shots in the box since the restart, which is more than Norwich (21), West Ham (14) and Bournemouth (10). Even accounting for the extra fixture, that’s not great.

At the other end of the pitch, they’re averaging a chance every 11.4 minutes, which puts them in the same company as the likes of Watford, West Ham and Bournemouth.  

Mikel Arteta has inherited a mess, there’s no doubt about it, and the team that kept three clean sheets in four pre-COVID games looks like a distant memory.

There are rumours of unrest in the Arsenal camp, with Arteta reportedly unhappy with the attitude of some of his players during the break.

3pm team news

Against City, Arsenal went with a youthful lineup, but to me, the players starting, particularly Matteo Guendouzi (£4.2m), Eddie Nketiah (£4.4m) and Joe Willock (£4.7m), don’t look ready to be week-in week-out regulars.

Combined with a defence that will soon include David Luiz (£5.7m) and be without Bernd Leno (£4.9m) – their chances of a strong end to the season look slim-to-none.

Surely their talisman Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£11.0m), who is 32 next year and likely has one big move left in his career, will be looking to head to the exit door. He did manage seven shots (three on target) against Brighton, which is encouraging, but he again failed to deliver against Southampton and if he repeats that trick against Norwich, I can’t see anyone keeping faith in the Gabonese international.

In my mind, targeting teams playing Norwich looked a strong play from now until the end of the season and after what I’ve seen so far, bringing in those that are playing Arsenal also looks a guarantee of points.

With Norwich heading to the Emirates, it’s almost unthinkable to think that Arsenal won’t get a win – but this could be their last chance to get three points in a while, with Wolves, Leicester, Tottenham and Liverpool all to come in the subsequent four Gameweeks. Eek.

In my view, the most worrying thing about Arsenal is their complete lack of desire to create openings and carve out chances. Dani Ceballos (£5.2m), I’d argue, is their most creative player and is performing relatively well in his new deeper-lying role, but this means he is absent from where they perhaps need him, pulling the strings further up the pitch.

As post-match highlights revealed, despite playing against a high-line City defence, players were reserved in trying to pick out Aubameyang.

Against Brighton, defending for the Seagulls was too easy at times and it took a wonder goal from Nicolas Pépe (£9.2m) for Arsenal to get a goal. It seems to me that Arteta is trying to patch up a frankly horrible defence with more negative tactics, but at the cost of fluidity and flexibility which makes the majority of their attackers avoidable.

I will however be keeping my eye on Bukayo Saka, who at £4.7m doesn’t eat up many funds in your budget, and may be a decent pick against Norwich if you are looking for some ‘coverage’ outside of Aubameyang.

He had two goal attempts against Brighton and I was impressed with him, particularly in the first half. He’s created more goals than any other Arsenal player this calendar year and even managed to hit the post against the Seagulls.

He’s in my line-up for Gameweek 31+ despite my reservations about Arsenal, with my frustrations towards Richarlison’s (£8.3m) uninspiring performance echoing in my mind, and perhaps not enough time to get over it before the next deadline.

Manchester United

Ole is indeed at the wheel, and currently, he’s at the wheel of a Ferrari rather than the Reliant Robin we saw him driving earlier in the season.

It has been two very different games for Manchester United so far: a more tactical battle against Jose Mourinho’s Spurs, followed by a swashbuckling display against a patched-up Sheffield United. But, it’s hard to argue with four points from these games, the first hat-trick for a United player in the post-Ferguson era and some decent defensive displays (despite a couple of individual errors that nearly broke Roy Keane).

When I decided to Wildcard, getting three United players was always the priority. As I went through the options, it was encouraging to see just how many players that I could feasibly consider.

Bruno Fernandes (£8.7m) was a shoo-in. The highest-scoring player since he signed, he was averaging more points than even Mohamed Salah (£12.7m) per game. He’s exactly the kind of player I like in my team, one who has the monopoly on set pieces, looks to play killer balls and isn’t afraid of a shot. He’s everything I wanted James Maddison (£7.5m) to be, but the quality difference between the two is clearly vast.

Fernandes was unlucky not to get a couple of assists against Sheffield United, too. I did consider pairing him with Paul Pogba (£8.3m), but with no penalties and rumours of a more deep-lying role (look at those long passes he can deliver), I decided against it.

I also wanted to tap into the backline. Pre-COVID, United had really turned a corner in terms of their defence. They now have five clean sheets in their last seven games. The hard decision was knowing who to get.

I tend to avoid centre-backs as I prefer more attacking full-backs, so that was Harry Maguire (£5.3m) out. Aaron Wan-Bissaka’s (£5.3m) stats hardly inspired confidence and so it fell, against all odds, to David de Gea (£5.3m).

The more I think about this move, however, the happier I am with it. A back three of Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.8m), Matt Doherty (£6.3m) and Serge Aurier (£5.0m) gives me a perfect blend of form and fixtures until the end of the season and helps me get involved with the Red Devils’ backline.

I also decided after the Spurs game to go with Marcus Rashford (£9.0m), who I thought looked dangerous, if a bit rusty. I was hoping some of that rust would have worn off by the Sheffield United game but alas, two glorious chances wasted.

He still came away with two assists, however, and for those (like me) that went with Rashford over Anthony Martial (£8.1m), I urge patience. The two are matching each other in terms of penalty area touches (14 vs 13) and are very close in terms of goal attempts (four v six). The key difference? Martial has been clinical with a 50% goal conversion. If the two keep getting the chances they are getting, I expect both players to be strong options until the end of the season.

So why am I not dropping Rashford for Martial, who is playing ‘out of position’, gets an extra point for a goal and even a clean sheet point too? The reasoning is just as it was pre-Wildcard: Martial is one of the most infuriating to own players in the game. When you think he’s going to do well, he doesn’t. When United need a spark, he’s often missing. When you watch a match wanting your players to get on and demand the ball, he can leave you hanging.

The first half of the Spurs game was a perfect example of the frustration that I have experienced owning Martial in my team in the past. He touched the ball nine times, the fewest of any player on the pitch. He comes too deep at times, and often looks laboured at getting back into the box.

Despite constant calls from Solskjaer that he wants him lurking more predatorily, certain games are going to see him falling back into these habits and United will not have an easier game this season than they did against Sheffield United.

When you compare Rashford and Martial over the season, in terms of averages per appearance, Rashford is ahead on just about every metric. I know it can be tempting to switch to “flavour of the week”, but to me, Martial is exactly that sort of player – great one week, awful the next. I’m sticking with Rashford.

If you’re rocking less than three United players, you could do a lot worse than using a transfer on Martial, but with games coming thick and fast, your transfers are more valuable than ever. Use them wisely.

As we head towards the final straight of the season, however, I think the most important bit of advice I can give you is: play your own game.

If you disagree with me, triple up on Arsenal v Norwich and hand Martial the armband. If you’re watching as much football as I am, you’ll be making your own minds up on who to target. Now isn’t the time to play it safe – attack the Gameweek, trust your gut, use the Members’ Area to compare stats post-COVID to pre-COVID and extract as much as you can from this crazy end to a season which I doubt we will ever see the likes of again.

But above all else, keep yourselves and your loved ones safe and healthy out there – and see you in the pub when this all blows over.


Az has been a contributor to the site and Scoutcast guest for many years. The Brighton and Hove Albion supporter has three top 10k finishes to his name in a long Fantasy career, the best of which was a rank of 817 in the 2017/18 season.

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2,115 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Little Frank
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Think I've got my WC team for GW33 sorted out:
    Edison Martinez
    TAA Doherty Maguire Taylor Feminia
    Salah KDB Fernandes Pulisc Foden
    Rashford Jiminez DCL

    All good?

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Looks good.

      Maybe a waste of money on a sub keeper? Foden huge rotation risk? But you know this

      1. Little Frank
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        I plan to start Foden each week and have DCL as first sub in case of a no show. Obviously a risk of a 5 minute cameo but I think Pep will give him a lot of playing time now there's nothing left to play for in the PL. Still have BB to play at some point so want a playing second keeper (and just in case Pep decides to take PepRoulette up another notch)

    2. michudagawd
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Nice. Downgrade Martinez to Button though as you'll be playing Ederson every gameweek.

  2. gaurava1216
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    A or B pls? On my WC

    A) DLC + Saiss
    B) Nketia + Doherty

    Pope
    TAA Aurier XXX Lascelles Holgate
    Salah KDB Son Martial Fernandes
    XXX Greenwood Jimi

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      B for me - higher ceiling

  3. Nomar
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Anyone else think Liverpool, the new Premier League Champions, are going to give City a whupping on Thursday?

    1. Royal5
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      No

    2. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      No. Imagine you play for Liv, would you really care? I certainly would care if I play for City...

      1. FFSbet.com
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Wrong mindset,those that dont care wont start the match.

    3. inactive
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Adrenaline wins you games. Imagine the adrenaline of finally being champions and having the quality they have.

      First goal and it could get nasty for City.

    4. I Member
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Wouldn't be surprised at all. Liverpool have a week off. City have an important cup game and Fernandinho suspended.

  4. Royal5
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Start Saka or Mount?

    1. UnitedRthebest
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Mount

    2. Kuzser
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Same here (also Jota is a contender) and I’m leaning towards Saka. Mount had a few good chances vs Coty and vs Villa, should deliver finally

      1. Kuzser
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Sorry, benching Saka.play Mount

        1. Royal5
          • 10 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          Yh probably right

  5. Shark Team
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    I'm WC next gw so only for this gw I have concluded to my final options which are:
    A)PVA/Alonso/Bellerin in - TAA out
    B) A. + Pulisic in Barnes out (-4)
    C)Sarr in - Barnes out

    * I'm looking for hauls but idk who is gonna bring it to me...
    A great attacking minded LB Vs bad Burnley attack
    or
    The best full backs of the years 2016-2017-2018
    or
    in form Captain America
    or
    My first idea of my fav lad Ismaila

    Appreciate any help. thanks a lot and gl

  6. UnitedRthebest
    • 1 Year
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Duda to Pulisic for a -4? Don’t want to start Bellerin even against Norwich.
    Cheers!

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Yes do it soon!

  7. osceola31909
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Captain?

    A) Jimenez
    B) Salah
    C) Mane
    D) Rashford

    1. michudagawd
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Coin toss between A or B imo.

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Salah for me

    3. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      A

    4. I Member
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      I'm leaning towards a Liverpool player. Can see them putting on a show.

  8. michudagawd
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Good to go with this or swap Cathcart in for Grealish or Boly?

    Pope
    TAA Doherty Boly
    Salah Grealish KDB Fernandes Martial
    Auba (c) Jimenez

    Button - Cathcart Stephens* Brewster*

    1. Kuzser
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Cathcart didn’t start last 2 games- dunno why, as he’s been a regular starter prior to lockdown.
      So gtg

      1. michudagawd
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        He came on at HT in last game as Kabasele had a shocker. I think he'll start the Saints game.

    2. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Good

  9. bigbudgie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Foster martinez
    VVD Billy Doherty
    Sterling KDB martial bruno
    Rashford jiminez dcl

    A) Sterling > pulisic
    B) save
    C) something else

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Good. Save

  10. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Have TAA and Doherty, I play Saïss and double up on Wolves defence or start Fernandez instead to hedge bets??

    1. osceola31909
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      I have Lascelles, but I am benching him and going with TAA, Doherty, and Saiss.

      1. Bielsa's Bucket
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Exactly the same

      2. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        That’s good it’s what I’ve been on all of the past few days, will stick with TAA, Doherty and Saïss and Put Fernandez 1st sub!! Cheers

  11. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    A Play Jota
    B Transfer to Nketiah and play -4

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      A defo

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Thanks. Just have fear will be benched and Neto gets start. Hopefully we get early team news a few minutes before deadline!

  12. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Some good things in article, and some seems a bit to disagree with, to say it luke you Brits who never dears to say what you really mean 🙂

  13. inactive
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    The forehead has come to the conclusion that operation defend title involves signing Bukayo Saka and Adama Traore.

    1. FFSbet.com
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Would they come to sit on bench?
      Adama want game time to get in Spain squad,i guess same for Saka.

      1. inactive
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Yep, that and fees are probably stumbling blocks this summer. They're both absolutely perfect for Klopp imo.

        Saka's contract expires in 2021 so waiting a year might be a good idea. He almost feels like a Milner replacement (albeit different playstyles) in terms of squad numbers. Can play LB, LW, RW and seemingly CM.

        Adama is just Adama. Probably wouldn't start many, but would probably feature in every game.

        1. FFSbet.com
          • 6 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          Agree,Adama would be great especially when Mane/Salah go to Afcon

          1. inactive
            • 11 Years
            1 year, 4 months ago

            Wolves can ask for whatever the heck they want though. He's the most unique player in the league for sure. Nobody like him

    2. Would Ed Woodward
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      I think every top club will be interested in Saka, would be great for you, back up for both Robertson and Mane.

      1. inactive
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        I think he's brilliant. He's the sort of signing Fergie would be making in a summer like this. Such a skilled, versatile and technical player.

        1. Would Ed Woodward
          • 2 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          Completely agree, he's already very good and looks to have a ton of potential, Fergie always tried to strengthen his title winning sides to shake things up and not let complacency set in, the signings you mentioned would definitely do that for you guys.

          1. inactive
            • 11 Years
            1 year, 4 months ago

            I fear another quiet summer and that would be a mistake in my honest opinion

  14. ShackledAce
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    A) Son + DCL+ Nketiah (bench)
    or
    B) Rash + DCL + Foden (bench)
    or
    C) Rash + Pulisic + Nketiah (bench)

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      C

  15. tempest
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Start

    A) Lascelles (bou)
    B) Taylor (cry)

    1. ShackledAce
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      A, cherries doesnt have a striker

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      A

  16. Flynny
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Hi...rank 100k....2.3mitb and 2ft...... what is best bet here please?

    A... jota to nketiah (can get mahrez / jesus in 33

    B.....Salah and jota to kane and pulisic for free

    McCarthy (hendo )
    Taa Maguire boly (soy Stephens )
    Salah Kdb Fernandes martial (fleck )
    Jiminez jota dcl

    Thanks

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      I like B but no Salah or Mane just too risky? So A

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      A

      1. Flynny
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Cheers... B is extremely bold isn't it....

        Although not against getting rid of Salah soon as will be rested....

    3. FFSbet.com
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      A for sure

    4. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Really really like A

      Jesus/Mahrez is right on my radar in 33 too. Edging towards Jesus.

      Nice side.

      1. Flynny
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Thanks mate

  17. Muscout
    • 2 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Play
    A) Lascelles
    B) Kiko

    Captain
    1) Jimi
    2) Rash

    1. I Member
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      A1

    2. UnitedRthebest
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 4 months ago

      A2

  18. MikeLowrey
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    G2G? Might roll my FT

    Martinez
    TAA Doherty Justin
    Mane KDB Fernandes Son
    Jimenez Ings DCL

    (Button Lascelles Robinson Guendouzi)

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Yup, nice

  19. Tmel
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Start 2:

    a) Lascelles (bou)
    b) Saiss (avl) - already have Doherty
    c) Holgate (LEI)
    d) Greenwood (bha)

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      AB

  20. Mr Ozil
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Captain who?

    A- Jimi
    B- Bruno
    C- Rashford
    D- Salah

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      D

    2. I Member
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      D

    3. Egg noodle
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      J

  21. Dele
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    G2G with bench boost active?

    Martinez
    TAA, Doherty, AWB
    Salah, Martial, Fernandes, KDB, Pulisic
    Jimenez, Jota

    McCarthy, DCL, Aurier, Lascelles

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Lovely

    2. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Is Jota ok? If he is that’s a cracking bench. GL

      1. Dele
        • 5 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Could be benched but he’s made an impact in the past, he’ll be next to go for me

  22. Herman Toothrot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Martinez and Button for the rest if the season worth it?

    1. Dele
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Can’t see why not, just don’t expect much from your keeper

  23. Threat Level Midnight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    McCarthy or Hendo this week?

    Henderson
    TAA-Doh-Stevens
    Son-Fernandes-De Bruyne-Saka
    Jesus-Jimmy-Auba (C)

    McCarthy-Lund-Williams-Guendozi

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Hendo

  24. Fishy
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Why is pope top of gk watchlist?

  25. Shark Team
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Pulisic or Sarr? (only for this gw)
    Alonso or PVA or Bellerin? ( only for this gw)

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      P
      A
      For me

  26. Lindelol
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Play one
    1. Pope vs Crystal Palace (away)
    2. McCarthy vs Watford (Away)

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Pope

    2. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Either is good McCarthy just imo

      Palace have a great recent record against Burnley. They looked pretty sharp against Bournemouth too. Not sure the 0-0 is going to happen

    3. Lindelol
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Thanks

  27. Wılly
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    A. Play DCL (LEI)
    B. Play Nketiah (NOR)

    1. tempest
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      B for me

  28. Braxton
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Start Pope (cry) or Martinez (nor)? Thank you.

  29. Scots Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Start one -

    A.) Lascelles
    B.) Nketiah
    C.) Sara

    1. Scots Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      C.) Saka sorry

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      B - just feel he gets rest for FA cup and starts v Norwich

  30. The Yorkshire Pirlo
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    G2G? Not sure what to do with Tammy yet.

    Dubravka
    TAA - Saiss - Doherty
    Martial - Fernandes - KDB - Son
    Rashford - Jimenez - Tammy

    Button - Lundstram - Cantwell - Egan