Pro Pundit Teams

The case for a cheap FPL defence as premium assets continue to disappoint

Fantasy Premier League managers could find value in spending as little money on defenders as possible in the coming weeks.

With Liverpool conceding for the fourth consecutive match in Gameweek 7, and the injury to Fabinho (£5.5m) exacerbating the loss of Virgil van Dijk (£6.4m), Trent Alexander Arnold (£7.4m) and Andrew Robertson’s (£7.1m) certainly offer less Fantasy value than before.

It’s not just Liverpool who are letting the premium defenders union down though. Last season’s top six have kept just seven clean sheets combined over the first six Gameweeks (Liverpool 1, Manchester City 1, Manchester United 1, Chelsea 2, Spurs 1, Arsenal 1) so justifying ownership of their expensive defenders is proving harder and harder each week.

Using some underlying statistics in the Fantasy Football Scout Premium Members Area, I want to analyse if teams with defenders at the more budget end of the spectrum (say, up to £5.0m) can possibly provide similar returns to their more expensive counterparts at the bigger clubs. 

For the purpose of this analysis, I have used data from the last four Gameweeks:

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1,790 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Q
    • 8 Years
    25 days, 22 hours ago

    Are Kilman or chilwell rising any time soon? Have exact funds from lamptey and saiss.

    1. ElliotJHP
      • 8 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Chilwell tonight I think

      1. Q
        • 8 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Thanks

    2. Ibralicious
      • 6 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Chilwell rising tonight

      1. Q
        • 8 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Do you think the above is worth it for free

    3. HashAttack
      • 3 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Unlikely as the figures get a bit of a reset each gw

  2. GE
    • 4 Years
    25 days, 22 hours ago

    Maupay ->

    1) Adams
    2) Wilson
    3) Bamford

    1. Ode
      • 3 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Patty Bam

    2. Ibralicious
      • 6 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Hold for Antonio later, none of those options are good

      1. GE
        • 4 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        I have 2FT and other options are thin, maybe Mitchell -> Kiliman? (have Saiss)

    3. Fuddled FC
      • 8 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      1

  3. Ibralicious
    • 6 Years
    25 days, 22 hours ago

    Wow, hit with 2 injuries right before the deadline... worth using my FT to remove Castagne/Mitchell, or should I hold to do a double switch next GW?

    Martinez
    Robbo - Chilwell - Dallas
    Salah - Son - J. Rod - Grealish
    Kane - DCL - Bamford

    (Forster) - (Bissouma - *Mitchell* - *Castagne*)
    0.8 ITB - 1FT

    Cheers!

    1. Mingo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      You could get away with not playing either and bring in a West Ham defender next week.

  4. Mini Mahouse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    25 days, 22 hours ago

    Why are people on here saying Werner will get rested - Is it just because he played 90mins or did I miss something Lampard said?

    1. The Fantastic Mr Fox
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Just bcos he played and lamps has previously spoken about rotation. But Chelsea need points asap. I see him starting

    2. Qaiss
      • 4 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Because the likes of Burnley are too difficult for Werner.

      Even though these were the sort of games Abraham struggled in last season.

      It’s possible he gets rested but I would have thought that would have been against Rennes on Tuesday.

      1. Qaiss
        • 4 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        What I meant was, a lot of people assume Werner won’t do well against a team who parks the bus.

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Abraham/Giroud might be better suited for the Burnley game

    4. bench boost for every gamew…
      • 3 Years
      25 days, 21 hours ago

      Amount of played minutes i guess. In other words just guesswork

  5. FPL Kaka
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    25 days, 22 hours ago

    Keep or sell Jimmy this week?

    Reckon Wolves will start scoring more goals at some point? Not sure if 8.5m for Jimmy is good value or not

    1. Karan14
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Would keep this unless you're selling for Kane

  6. Flynny
    • 5 Years
    25 days, 22 hours ago

    Morning.....1m itb. Am I best to save the transfer?

    Martinez
    Taa james saiss (Mitchell lamptey)
    Salah son pulisic foden (burke)
    Kane dcl watkins

    Thanks

    1. Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Yep

    2. Karan14
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      25 days, 22 hours ago

      Yes save

      1. Flynny
        • 5 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Thanks

  7. TeddiPonza
    • 10 Years
    25 days, 22 hours ago

    What to do?

    Thinking of sideways moves like Sterling to KdB or Burke to Bissouma. But all thoughts and ideas appreciated.

    Martinez (Forster)
    Saiss KWP Justin (Mitchell Lamptey)
    Salah Sterling Son Podence (Burke)
    Kane DCL Jimi

    0,1m in bank 2 FT

    Thanks.

  8. Flair
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    25 days, 22 hours ago

    Looking at the underlying stats (Shots in Box conceded, xGA, Big Chances conceded), Sheffield United are a much worse defense than Brighton or West Ham. Sterling tempts... my faith in City offense, however, is low.

    1. ivantys
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        I really wanna try Sterling again but Sheffield don't concede more than 2.

        1. Flair
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          They conceded 3 four times last season, thrice after the restart. No crowd, O'Connell and Henderson has hurt them.

          1. ivantys
              25 days, 22 hours ago

              I meant this season, and I really need a differential cap to chase points. Might just go for Sterling again.

      • FPL Kaka
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Does Jamal Lewis lose his place when Ritchie is back?

        Thanks

        1. bench boost for every gamew…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 21 hours ago

          Hopefully not, Richie can play higher also, and with all their midfielders struggling he can also be deployed centrally.

      • Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        2ft 1m itb - No fires this week so...?

        A Forster/Martin in for Nyland GK
        B Podence to a £5-6m MID (who?)
        C Burke to Bissouma

      • Ode
        • 3 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Jrod & Maupay > Rashford & Bamford -4
        Worth a hit?

        1. Third Eye Vision
          • 8 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Probably. Both players are an upgrade I think.

      • Bruce Lee
        • 2 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        taa ➡ chilly for free?

        1. Bruce Lee
          • 2 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          actually just seen castagne flagged - easy choice

      • Jonny HOW SON?
        • 5 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Would you keep Grealish and Maupay? Or sell one of them?

        1. Ode
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Keep Grealish, unlucky not to score last gw

        2. Champ
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          I'd keep grealish. Would be possibly looking at moving maupay on for another budget striker possibly double up with Watkins for the fixtures or bamford or Antonio if he comes right

        3. Mingo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Keep Grealish for the longhaul. I've never been convinced about Maupay and Brighton's attacking in general. He'd be the one I moved on.

        4. Thunderbolts
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          25 days, 21 hours ago

          I've got both and looking to sell Maupay. I'm looking at Adams and Bamford. My problem with Adams is that Ings is the main man and I'm worried Adams will just be getting assists but Bamford is the main man for Leeds goals.

      • The Gambler.
        • 11 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        So my team is in good shape except Antonio.

        Have 2 FT.

        Normally i’d hold a player if he’s only gonna miss one game but is it worth moving him to Bamford then getting him back later?

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          If he is out for a month, yes.

          1. Giggs Boson
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            25 days, 22 hours ago

            "Michail has been great for us and has played really well. He came off against Spurs and he felt it against Man City too. We don't think it's too bad but it's enough to keep him out of tomorrow's game."

            Sounds like just one game out...

        2. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Looks like he's out for the next 2 GWs. Sell for Bamford imo.

      • CrouchDown
        • 8 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Save FT?

        Martinez

        Saiss Bellerin Justin

        Salah Sterling Son Foden

        Kane DCL Watkins

        Subs: Steer, Biss Mitchell Taylor

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Yes

        2. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Yes, save.

        3. Mingo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Roll that baby!

      • Jack Burton
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Leeds done their presser yet any reason not to get Bamford in

      • Ibralicious
        • 6 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Those who own Castagne, would you get rid on a FT or just hold till he's back?

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Gone for a while isn't he? Sell.

        2. Mingo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          The popular move will be to Chilwell, or maybe Creswell if you want to wait a week.

        3. The Count of Monte Cristo
          • 8 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Sell - may not make it back for GW9. Chilwell an easy swap.

          1. Ibralicious
            • 6 Years
            25 days, 22 hours ago

            Already had Chilwell, might look to hold for a double switch with Grealish-> Rashford

      • Conroy
        • 7 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Will Ziyech start against Burnley?

        1. Flair
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Unlikely

      • Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        I did Doherty to Chilwell last night, but still got TAA and Tierney.

        They both can go but probably better to do it on a WC.

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          I agree

        2. bench boost for every gamew…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 21 hours ago

          Why would you do that now?

      • iL PiStOlErO
        • 1 Year
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Mendy
        TAA Justin Mitchell KWP
        Salah Sterling Son
        Kane DCL Watkins

        Steer Romeu Taylor Bissouma

        Team set but need some help with cpt:

        A) Mo
        B) Kane
        C) Sonny
        D) Sterling

        Cheers amigos.

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Perma (A)

        2. Rival Sons Blackberry Smoke
          • 6 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          So hard for you with those big 4. I'm leaning Son myself.
          Your bench is an issue with Mitchell out now or very soon though. I think a non playing bench will be an issue soon

        3. ballsy_b
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Captain Son

      • Rival Sons Blackberry Smoke
        • 6 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        2FT .... need to use one, have £0.4ITB
        Probably want a City long term, so possibly my mind leads to building a cash reserve to upgrade Rodriguez to KDB/Sterling

        Who would you deal with first *

        McCarthy, Martinez
        Chilwell, Lewis, Lamptey*, Saiss*, Aurier*
        Salah, Son, Grealish, Rodriguez*, Jorginho*
        Kane, DCL, Maupay*

        Thinking potentials are:
        Adams, Bamford (not keen on fixtures though)
        Bissouma, Foden
        Kilman (certainly in future if Saiss ditched), Masuaku, Coufal, Maybe the 4.0m Liverpool centre back

        I'm thinking Aurier or Maupay this week to deal with?

        1. Fuddled FC
          • 8 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          I think I would change Maupay of the 2 this week

          1. Rival Sons Blackberry Smoke
            • 6 Years
            25 days, 22 hours ago

            I'm leaning that way myself, Adams>Bamford as a starter over the medium term?

        2. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          I’d probably shift Aurier first.

          Maybe to a West Ham defender.

          1. Rival Sons Blackberry Smoke
            • 6 Years
            25 days, 22 hours ago

            Thinking Aurier not playing means me having to rely on Kelly v Everton or Lamptey v Spurs (of which both teams I have two attackers) but WHam have Liverpool, surely not a clean sheet there either!

        3. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Maybe Maupay to Bamf. Leeds looking fierce.

          1. Rival Sons Blackberry Smoke
            • 6 Years
            25 days, 22 hours ago

            Not keen on their fixtures though. Southamptons look better. Though Ings gobbles some, Bamford will get more of the share I suspect... Such a tough call and thinking Adams more differential....

      • Fuddled FC
        • 8 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        What is the priority transfer here, I would really appreciate some opinions

        McCarthy
        TAA - KWP - Mitchell- Targett
        Salah - J Rod - Son - Havertz
        Kane DCL

        Taylor - Soucek - Brewster

        What is the priority here?

        a) Taylor > Chillwell and play instead of Mitchell
        b) Brewster > Adams (and play instead of Mitchell)
        c) Brewster > Bamford (play instead of Mitchell)

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          A

        2. The Count of Monte Cristo
          • 8 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          A

      • Mufc202020
        • 1 Year
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Aguero and Telles to Chilwell and Werner for a hit?? Or any other suggestions!

        1. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Might as well.

      • ooooo
        • 3 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Martinez
        Robbo Chilwell Lamptey
        Salah Son J Rod Grealish
        Kane DCL Wilson

        4.0 Dallas KWP Bissouma

        2ft 0.0itb any transfers needed?

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Wilson out to a cheaper, better option - Bamf or Che

      • wijohnson85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Start Podence or Soucek? Have Jimenez.

        1. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Soucek v that Liv defence.

      • Stram Dunk
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Castagne replacement?

        A) Cresswell
        B) Coufal
        C) Cancelo
        D) Dallas/Ayling
        E) KWP

        1. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          A

        2. The Count of Monte Cristo
          • 8 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          a

      • Ginola
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Who to captain? Leaning towards B myself, because Brighton will play their own attacking game and will give away a lot of space for a counter (where Son can benefit the most from).

        A. Kane
        B. Son

        1. thegaffer82
          • 9 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          I'm on Kane. But without a crystal ball, there's no way to know who will do best out of those two.

          Kane on pens swung it for me, but no doubt it'll be Son who gets the bigger haul cos that seems to be my luck these days

        2. The Count of Monte Cristo
          • 8 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          I'm going for Son over Kane due to the opposition, as you said. Both could easily score big though.

      • KAPTAIN KANE
        • 3 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        I’m really torn on what to do this week and could do with some opinions please!

        I have 2FTs, would you go Buur to Kilman and play:

        Kilman | Bruno | Lamptey (Mitchell bench)

        Or take a -4 and bring in Chilwell, Grealish and Bamford and play:

        Chilwell | Grealish | Bamford (Soucek bench)

        The latter means taking out Bruno.

        I’m really not sure, opinions appreciated.

        Thanks

      • Gazpilicueta
        • 6 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Emergency! I think im turning into a casual, Ahhh!
        I need your help...
        I have like 5 minutes..... what should I do with my team? I have 2 free transfers and 1.5 in the bank

        Martinez 4.0
        Robbo, Saiss, James, Lamptey, Justin
        Salah, Son, Sterling, Foden, Burke
        Jimenez, DCL, Brewster

        hit me up!

        1. Third Eye Vision
          • 8 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Brewster to Bamford. Big upgrade for your team and you can play 3-4-3.

          1. The Count of Monte Cristo
            • 8 Years
            25 days, 22 hours ago

            This sounds good, the rest looks pretty solid.

      • HMC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        25 days, 22 hours ago

        Feel like moving Taylor with one of two free transfers. Which option would you recommend for the long term?
        Have Robbo Saiss Lamptey Mitchell Taylor*
        Full team is linked

        Ayling
        Dallas
        Masuaka
        Coufal
        KWP
        Other...

        1. Puntillimon
          • 5 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          ITB?

          1. HMC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            25 days, 22 hours ago

            currently 0.4itb

            1. Puntillimon
              • 5 Years
              25 days, 22 hours ago

              One of the Leeds players

        2. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Coufal

        3. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          25 days, 22 hours ago

          Why moving Taylor out of interest?

          1. HMC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            25 days, 22 hours ago

            Have 2FT and can't find any other moves
            Don't like Burnley long term fixtures and want a better rotating option alongside Lamptey
            Any other suggestions - don't want to burn a transfer

        4. bench boost for every gamew…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 21 hours ago

          I would feel like movibg away from your potential problems, Michelle who is far from nailed. And Lamptey who plays for a team not capable og cs and he is opp but i gave watched Brighton and he is not in positions to get points, all his points is from pens, which is not sustainable

          1. HMC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            25 days, 21 hours ago

            Cheers. Lamptey also prone to yellows.

            Narrowed to Ayling or Coufal (maybe Dallas)

        5. bench boost for every gamew…
          • 3 Years
          25 days, 21 hours ago

          Burnley one of the best defs, only behind Manchester clubs and one other for big chances conceded. And decent fixtures