Dugout Discussion

Sterling, Foden and Aguero on Man City bench for trip to Spurs

Raheem Sterling (£11.5m), Phil Foden (£6.5m) and Sergio Aguero (£10.3m) are named on the bench as Manchester City visit Tottenham Hotspur.

The Englishman was dealing with a calf injury during the international break, so his lack of involvement in the starting XI is less damaging to Fantasy Premier League managers than it usually would be.

Ferran Torres (£6.9m) and Riyad Mahrez (£8.2m) are handed the wide-forward roles in Pep Guardiola’s 4-3-3 system, either side of Gabriel Jesus (£9.3m), who has scored in both of his Premier League starts this season.

However, his days as a reliable asset may already be coming to a close, considering Aguero’s return to full fitness.

The Argentinian has been missing since the Gameweek 6 draw at West Ham and, named on the bench tonight, is sure to complicate predictions of Manchester City line-ups once more.

There has been rekindled interest in Guardiola’s defence in recent weeks, João Cancelo (£5.5m) and Ruben Dias (£5.5m) at the heart of that – both of them starting in Gameweek 9.

There will be plenty of eyes on the Spurs line-up too, of course, as Harry Kane (£11.0m) and Son Heung-min (£9.5m) remain hugely popular Fantasy assets, and both start for Jose Mourinho’s side.

In fact, only Bruno Fernandes (£10.7m) has been captained by more top 10k managers than Kane.

Tottenham Hotspur XI (4-2-3-1): Lloris; Reguilón, Dier, Alderweireld, Aurier; Højbjerg, Sissoko; Son, Ndombele, Bergwijn; Kane.

Manchester City XI (4-3-3): Ederson; Cancelo, Laporte, Dias, Walker; De Bruyne, Rodrigo, B Silva; Torres, Jesus, Mahrez.

Become a Member and get unrestricted access to our data and articles

Full-year memberships are now available for the price of £19.99. Monthly subscriptions also cost just £2.99. A FREE trial is now available during December.

Join now to get the following:

  • Plot your transfer strategies using the fully interactive Season Ticker.
  • Get projections for every Premier League player provided by the Rate My Team statistical model.
  • Use Rate My Team throughout the season to guide your selections and transfers.
  • Get access to over 150+ exclusive members articles over the season.
  • Analyse our OPTA-powered statistic tables specifically tailored for Fantasy Football Managers.
  • Use our exclusive tool to build custom stats tables from over 100 OPTA player and team stats.
  • Enjoy our brand NEW Flat-Track Bully feature which introduces an opposition filter to your tables.
  • View heatmaps and expected goals data for every player.
  • Use our powerful comparison tool to analyse players head-to-head.

ALREADY A USER? CLICK HERE TO UPGRADE YOUR FREE ACCOUNT

NEW TO SCOUT? CLICK HERE TO START A MEMBERSHIP ACCOUNT

1,561 Comments Post a Comment
  1. 4-4-who?
    • 11 Years
    2 months, 4 days ago

    Kane such a cheat - always going to ground

    1. Van der Faart
      • 9 Years
      2 months, 4 days ago

      Yeah imagine getting kicked on the ankle and falling over

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 months, 4 days ago

        If it’s greilish he’s a ‘master of getting fouls’

  2. KAPTAIN KANE
    • 4 Years
    2 months, 4 days ago

    Kane C fail

    1. DycheDycheBaby
      • 5 Years
      2 months, 4 days ago

      Yeah Son C fail too

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 months, 4 days ago

      My God. That rank.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 4 days ago

        Not for long!

  3. Ibralicious
    • 6 Years
    2 months, 4 days ago

    Kane hattrick incoming the man is heated

    1. KAALI_DAAL
        2 months, 4 days ago

        All goals from offside.

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 months, 4 days ago

      Son brace on the counter incoming

    3. diesel001
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 4 days ago

      LOL. Last two posts. Such contrasting opinions....

      1. el polako
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 months, 4 days ago

        Matchday here is full of emotional teenagers.

      2. g40steve
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 4 days ago

        Typical FPL

        Chose A or B never works

    4. Vazza
        2 months, 4 days ago

        ————McCarthy————
        -—-Coufal Zouma Targett
        Salah Son KDB Grealish JRod
        ———-Vardy DCL————
        Bench: Forster Lewis Brewster Fodder

        1. Herman Toothrot
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          2 months, 4 days ago

          I love it.

          The formatting I mean

          1. Vazza
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Haha! What about the team itself?

        2. fr3d
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 4 days ago

          Laporte would've had a hatty today if he played instead of Trezeguet

        3. Fudgy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 4 days ago

          Aguero absolutely fuming

          1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
            • 10 Years
            2 months, 4 days ago

            Thinking about what game he wants to download on his PlayStation tonight

          2. diesel001
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 4 days ago

            Didn't look fuming to me. Looked like he was biding his time, knowing he was going to get a run out later.

          3. ivantys
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Imagine not being picked ahead of Bilva and Mahrez

              1. Bushwhacker
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Imagine coming back from injury

          4. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 11 Years
            2 months, 4 days ago

            Which one would you lose if forced?

            Grealish, Ziyech or Son

            1. diesel001
              • 4 Years
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Grealish, if Barkley is out for a while.

            2. Fudgy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 4 days ago

              With a gun to my head id remove ziyech

            3. JBG
              • 2 Years
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Zyiech

            4. Doctor Evil
              • 2 Years
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Easy Z

              1. UNDERWORLD7
                • 9 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Lol

            5. el polako
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Price difference between Son and Grealish might be key.

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 11 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Money no issue, points ftw.

            6. DA Minnion
              • 8 Years
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Z

            7. DK_13
              • 5 Years
              2 months, 4 days ago

              b or c depending on how much cash required

            8. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 11 Years
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Cheers all.

            9. Trophé Mourinho
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Tough, between Zuyech and Son, probably Ziyech. But if you had Kane as well, I see why people would be inclined to lsoe Son.
              Grealish is too good a value to lose, he doesnt enter the equation imo

              Why do you have to lose one? Want Bruno do you?

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 11 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                If I want City mid.

                1. JONALDINHO
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 3 Years
                  2 months, 4 days ago

                  If you have Kane I’d get rid of him. Son will do well against the high lines while Kane is better against the deep teams

                2. Trophé Mourinho
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 4 days ago

                  Ah ok, they have nice fixtures. Im more interested in Bruno though

            10. KAALI_DAAL
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Ziyech if you have Werner already.

                1. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 11 Years
                  2 months, 4 days ago

                  No Werner

              • Noah’s Ark
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Ziyech

              • nerd_is_the_werd
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Grealish

              • Bushwhacker
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Grealish. Villa are bang average

              • g40steve
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Not Son

              • Daniel - FH,BB,TC,WC left
                • 11 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                I thought you are selling Son

                1. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 11 Years
                  2 months, 4 days ago

                  Flexible plans, anything is possible with a hit.

                  1. Trophé Mourinho
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 1 Year
                    2 months, 4 days ago

                    tbh, I think you know you should stick with all 3 and either bypass City or find another way.
                    None of those 3 are bad options, A city mid isnt bad, but its not like you are swapping out trash for him. It is sideways imo, purely based on fixtures.

                    Consider Jesus or Laporte?

              • Twisted Saltergater
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Grealish

            11. JONALDINHO
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Which 3 out of Salah, KDB, Bruno and Son long term?

              1. diesel001
                • 4 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Salah, Bruno, Son

                1. Hulk Smash
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  2 months, 4 days ago

                  I'm inclined to agree

              2. Doctor Evil
                • 2 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                I have all 4

                1. Chirsbom
                  • 3 Years
                  2 months, 4 days ago

                  And who makes up the rest of the field?

                2. UNDERWORLD7
                  • 9 Years
                  2 months, 4 days ago

                  You still have Salah?

              3. Scholes Out Forever
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Salah Bruno Son

              4. Sco
                • 7 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Salah, Bruno, Son

                City players are overpriced until they prove otherwise.

                1. Utopsis
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 4 days ago

                  Problem is, when they do, they'll do so with a bang

              5. F4L
                • 6 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Salah and Son, forget the others

            12. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
              • 10 Years
              2 months, 4 days ago

              City have been poor

              1. Collie01
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                I think they have looked decent if not great. 10 attempts to Spurs 1

              2. el polako
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Yeah weird that, one would have thought that playing in empty quiet stadiums will suit them.

              3. Slouch87
                • 5 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                No they haven't.

              4. Bushwhacker
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Better side

              5. HurriKane
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Story of their season to be honest

            13. Inazuma X1
              • 3 Years
              2 months, 4 days ago

              Cancelo is playing as a midfielder lol

              1. Collie01
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                2 months, 4 days ago

                Kind of a LDM

                1. Inazuma X1
                  • 3 Years
                  2 months, 4 days ago

                  Nope Left Attacking Mid

            14. Vazza
                2 months, 4 days ago

                ————McCarthy————
                -—-Coufal Zouma Targett—
                Salah Son KDB Grealish JRod
                ——-—-Vardy DCL————
                Bench: Forster Lewis Brewster Fodder

                1. KAALI_DAAL
                    2 months, 4 days ago

                    What do you want mate

                    1. el polako
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 3 Years
                      2 months, 4 days ago

                      Attention.

                    2. Vazza
                        2 months, 4 days ago

                        It’s my draft Wildcard team. What do you think?

                        1. KAALI_DAAL
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            Its good

                          • The Mighty Hippo
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 4 Years
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            You've edited it into a lovely formation.

                        2. THE KING CANTONA
                          • 1 Year
                          2 months, 4 days ago

                          Fill in the blanks.

                      • JONALDINHO
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 3 Years
                        2 months, 4 days ago

                        I’d personally do JRod and Vardy to KDB and Bamford. Try get Chilwell over Zouma

                        1. Vazza
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            I already have KDB in the draft above..

                        2. g40steve
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 2 Years
                          2 months, 4 days ago

                          No Chilwell start again

                        3. SackWenger
                          • 11 Years
                          2 months, 4 days ago

                          Foden isn't a defender

                      • SHOOTER MCGINN
                        • 5 Years
                        2 months, 4 days ago

                        If Agüero was playing not Jesus they'd be winning by now.

                        1. Bushwhacker
                          • 1 Year
                          2 months, 4 days ago

                          He’d be playing if he was fit.

                      • Ain't No Holebas Girl
                        • 3 Years
                        2 months, 4 days ago

                        Cancelo playing so advanced, looks like a no brainer for second city spot. The first looks less obvious....

                        1. KAALI_DAAL
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            Deserves to be a top comment

                          • Noah’s Ark
                            • 8 Years
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            😆

                          • Lindelol
                            • 2 Years
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            Haha

                          • Vazza
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              He’s playing in a advanced position hence Man City are losing. There’s no cover at the back.

                          • Magic Zico
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 2 Years
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            If you have to choose one: Vardy or KDB to on-board GW10?

                            1. Miguel Sanchez
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 4 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              Vardy

                            2. JONALDINHO
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 3 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              KDB easy imo

                              1. fantasyfog
                                • 5 Years
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                Troll

                                1. JONALDINHO
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 3 Years
                                  2 months, 4 days ago

                                  Coming back to this comment in three weeks. There’s a massive difference between playing Spurs and Pool to Fulham and Burnley.

                                  1. fantasyfog
                                    • 5 Years
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    Vardy still outscores him

                            3. Stram Dunk
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 1 Year
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              Varsy

                            4. HurriKane
                              • 8 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              Vardy no brainer. City struggling in attack this season

                            5. Magic Zico
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 2 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              Thx all, Vardy (FUL) just can't be ignored

                            6. Sun Jihai
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              KDB

                          • Inazuma X1
                            • 3 Years
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            Ndombele has been playing well this season

                          • diesel001
                            • 4 Years
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            City's struggles (if you can call them that because it is not like they have fallen off a cliff) show how good Kompany, David Silva, Fernandinho, and Aguero were in their prime. Even an on-form KDB can't make up for the difference in quality between those four players replacements in this City side.

                            1. Arteta
                              • 5 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              Well said. They had so strong team core it's insane!

                            2. JONALDINHO
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 3 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              The defence is better now but Silva and Aguero in their prime were different gravy

                            3. Troll hunter
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 3 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              This does cause one issue. KdB is fatigued. Are they able to break even Burnley def?

                          • Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
                            • 6 Years
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            Get Sterling in Pep

                            1. mookie
                              • 7 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              Reguilon owner?

                            2. DA Minnion
                              • 8 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              This

                          • Fudgy
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 1 Year
                            2 months, 4 days ago

                            Getting Vardy has given me a nightmare lol

                            1. Vazza
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                He hasn’t even played yet

                            2. Flynny
                              • 5 Years
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              Anyone looking at kane to kun?

                              Rather than son to kdb?

                              Kun likely to start games soon...

                              Thanks

                              1. fantasyfog
                                • 5 Years
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                Yes

                              2. Hulk Smash
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 5 Years
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                Considering it. Aguero is a flat track Billy and those fixtures...

                              3. Sun Jihai
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 9 Years
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                Not nailed though right?

                              4. Qaiss
                                • 5 Years
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                So you’re basically now considering getting rid of the guy who hasn’t scored points in this game ? If Kane scores in the 2nd half, you still looking to get rid?

                                1. fantasyfog
                                  • 5 Years
                                  2 months, 4 days ago

                                  I will be as I have Son too

                                2. Flynny
                                  • 5 Years
                                  2 months, 4 days ago

                                  I just think son is likely to do better in the next few games than kane.

                                  And he is cheaper.

                              5. THE KING CANTONA
                                • 1 Year
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                Big No..

                                Kane + KDB >>>>> Kun + Son, considering number of starts, mins, Pen, influence on game.

                            3. Steve The Spud
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              2 months, 4 days ago

                              Kane is great but for his price he’s so deep, could still be a good move to vardy and keep son

                              1. DA Minnion
                                • 8 Years
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                Doing this most likely.

                              2. Stram Dunk
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 1 Year
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                Thinking the same

                              3. Vazza
                                  2 months, 4 days ago

                                  This

                                • The Mighty Hippo
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 4 Years
                                  2 months, 4 days ago

                                  I'm considering this as well.

                              4. fantasyfog
                                • 5 Years
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                I hear Cavani starts later, any chance?

                                1. Slouch87
                                  • 5 Years
                                  2 months, 4 days ago

                                  Depends where you heard it from.

                              5. JaydenLFC87
                                • 7 Years
                                2 months, 4 days ago

                                Kane Son > KDB Jesus - 4

                                Yay or Nay ??

                                1. Vazza
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    No way!!

                                  • g40steve
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 2 Years
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    Big NO

                                  • Rupert The Horse
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 7 Years
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    Neigh

                                2. Flair
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  2 months, 4 days ago

                                  CDM Kane is back!

                                  1. Troll hunter
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 3 Years
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    For this kind of games with Jose he never went away. (And he did score one offside goal tbh 😉 )

                                  2. Giggs Boson
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 9 Years
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    That's his position in the first phase of the attacking transition. Only when the attack develops fully develops in the last phase does he move into the box. But when playing on the counter, the attack never develops, so you only see him DM.

                                3. Qaiss
                                  • 5 Years
                                  2 months, 4 days ago

                                  It’s funny and a disgrace how they let a Spurs fan referee this fixture twice in a row

                                  1. diesel001
                                    • 4 Years
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    Which decision, other than the handball against Jesus, are you saying was incorrect?

                                    1. Qaiss
                                      • 5 Years
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      ‘Other than the handball’ which led to a goal. Lol.

                                      1. diesel001
                                        • 4 Years
                                        2 months, 4 days ago

                                        It was correctly disallowed. If that was Gabriel Jesus vs Arsenal, you would have been fuming if the ref had given the goal against Arsenal.

                                        1. Qaiss
                                          • 5 Years
                                          2 months, 4 days ago

                                          Mike Dean and referees have given plenty against us since the early Wenger days.

                                    2. mynameisq
                                      • 7 Years
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      That wasn't incorrect either

                                  2. Nightcrawler
                                    • 1 Year
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    About time arsenal fans stopped caring about sours tbh

                                    Its like those spurs fans caring about arsenal back in 04 05 era

                                    1. Qaiss
                                      • 5 Years
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      I’m just watching the game as a neutral. I know Spurs are better than Arsenal at the moment and they are a serious team this season.

                                      It’s about time you left your parents basement Trollcrawler

                                      1. Nightcrawler
                                        • 1 Year
                                        2 months, 4 days ago

                                        Spur grapes haha

                                    2. Rupert The Horse
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 7 Years
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      It’s a bit tragic. None of my Spurs mates even laugh at Arsenal any more.

                                    3. Qaiss
                                      • 5 Years
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      And what a terrible point. Arsenal were winning things for nearly a decade at that time.

                                      Spurs haven’t won anything yet.

                                4. Vazza
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    Thoughts on my draft wildcard team?

                                    ————McCarthy————
                                    -—-Coufal Zouma Targett—
                                    Salah Son KDB Grealish JRod
                                    ——-—-Vardy DCL————
                                    Bench: Forster Kilman Brewster Fodder

                                    1. g40steve
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 2 Years
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      No Chilwell start again, he is this years Trent/Robbo

                                  • Niho992
                                    • 2 Years
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    Imagine selling Sonaldo for Ziyech. Casuals everywhere.

                                    1. Slouch87
                                      • 5 Years
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      Nice to see you commenting my simple friend.

                                      1. Gnu
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 11 Years
                                        2 months, 4 days ago

                                        Your +1's are being balanced with -1's
                                        Pathetic sad mods.
                                        Bite me.

                                    2. Slouch87
                                      • 5 Years
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      On second thoughts it isn't nice at all.

                                    3. clodhopper
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 7 Years
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      They were warned always happens

                                  • Nightcrawler
                                    • 1 Year
                                    2 months, 4 days ago

                                    There is absolitely NO Place to hide for Son sellers. Thorough punishment

                                    1. diesel001
                                      • 4 Years
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      Son(c)?

                                      1. Nightcrawler
                                        • 1 Year
                                        2 months, 4 days ago

                                        No bruno cap this time. Your kane cap did pay off last time out

                                        1. diesel001
                                          • 4 Years
                                          2 months, 4 days ago

                                          Bruno(c) here also. Let's see if your picking can offset my cursing.

                                  • Vazza
                                      2 months, 4 days ago

                                      Who’s a better pick?

                                      A. Max Kilman
                                      B. Jamal Lewis

                                      1. TorresMagic™
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • Has Moderation Rights
                                        • 11 Years
                                        2 months, 4 days ago

                                        Depends on Monday, relax.

                                        1. Vazza
                                            2 months, 4 days ago

                                            Would you be able to comment on my wildcard draft above please?