Opinion

Should I buy Ivan Toney in FPL? A Brentford fan’s perspective

Ivan Toney (£6.5m) is now the highest-owned forward in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), sitting in 30% of pre-Gameweek 1 squads at the time of writing.

But is the hype surrounding the 31-goal striker justified?

Having previously taken a more general, statistical overview of Brentford’s midfielders and forwards in our Promoted series, we wanted a fan’s perspective on the former Newcastle United and Peterborough United hitman.

We asked Fantasy Football Scout user and Brentford fan Jamie (aka Belisha Beacon) a few questions on what FPL managers can expect in 2021/22.

What is Toney’s playing style – could you liken him to any other forward in terms of physicality/pace/hold-up play etc?

“His speciality is finding the tiniest bit of space away from his marker and finishing first time (something that should hopefully bode well in the top flight, with chances likely to be at more of a premium), as well as being a taker of a string of very cool penalties.

“He’s a real team leader and surely a future captain. He is also invaluable when it comes to helping out in defence at set pieces; he certainly prevented a few goals each season for us and for Peterborough, which is not something you can say for every number 9! 

“A striker talisman with the physical presence to win challenges at both ends… the top-knot Drogba?!”

Does he have any weaknesses to his game?

“There’s not much to report here on the evidence of last season. He picks up a few yellows for dissent; he gets fouled a lot but needs to control his temper in tough situations.

“He’s also a player who can seem to drift off the radar for spells in games but he has the patience to keep working for the team.”

Having seen the likes of Bamford, Mitrovic, Pukki etc in the last few years, where does he stand in the high-scoring pantheon of recent Championship strikers? Is 31 goals a fair reflection?

Bamford, Bale, Aguero and Forster on the bench for Gameweek 38 matches

“I’m not an expert on the strengths of all the other players you’ve mentioned but the goal record speaks for itself.

“We lost a lot of creativity last season with the departures of Ollie Watkins and Said Benrahma, so it said a lot for him to step into our team and break the goalscoring marks set by Neal Maupay and Watkins in the two prior years.

“I suppose you have to separate the penalties (11 out of 31) without ignoring them, as I doubt we can win that many in the Premier League.”

Do you have any concerns that Brentford won’t create enough chances for him in the top flight?

“That is the number one question for the club this summer, of course. We’ll have to get used to having less of the ball than we had in many games in the Championship.

“I may regret this prediction but I think some Premier League defences sit back and afford a little more space to opponents to play a pass than some of the more bruising Championship sides, who we often struggled against in the past. And we acquitted ourselves well in several cup matches against Premier League teams last season (beating Fulham, Southampton and Newcastle to nil and West Bromwich Albion on penalties, scoring eight goals in the process), so I’m hopeful that we’ll make a decent number of chances in the majority of games. There’ll be some hard days, though, for sure!”

It’s a bit of an impossible question but what do you think is a realistic target for him, goals and assists wise, in 2021/22?

“If we’re going to not only survive but try to excel amongst the bottom half teams this season, which I think we will, we’ll be aiming for 40-50 goals as a team.

“I think Toney will want to surpass what our past players Andre Gray, Maupay and even Watkins managed in their first seasons in the Premier League and aim to score about 15, including a few penalties, and maybe supply eight assists. It might sound optimistic but given his 50%+ goal involvement last year, it’s not too outrageous.”

Will you be starting with him in Gameweek 1 in FPL?

“Yes. £6.5m is not cheap for a promoted team striker, but I am confident he’ll look like a bargain when in form and it may only take one goal against Arsenal for people to be clamouring to sign him for the following weeks.”

1,142 Comments Post a Comment
  1. balint84
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Greenwood or Jota?

    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Jota

      1. OverTinker
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        but why???

          1. OverTinker
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            that seems the only reason

  2. Hansel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Best option?

    A) Toney, Gilmour + 0,5 in 3-4-3
    B) Barnes, Obafemi in 3-5-2

    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B but perica instead of obafemi

      1. Hansel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Ta

      2. Speedu
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Interesting, Why perica?

      3. SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Perica got more chance of mins then?

  3. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Firmino rested for Norwich.

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      🙂

    2. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Good

    3. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Tsimikas will start up top.

      1. Bushwhacker
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        With Milner

    4. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Source?

      1. Bushwhacker
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Trollstar.com

  4. jackruet
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    lost in last page.

    a) dallas+ TAA
    B) INGS+ coufal

    suggest me guys

    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

    2. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      A but someone else than Dallas

      1. jackruet
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        cant afford more than 5.5

        1. Hansel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          ESR?

  5. Chandler Bing
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Which duo? Sanchez GK and the defender has to play every week.

    A. Toney and Digne
    B. Antonio and Veltman

    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Just A

  6. The Wanton Trader
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A 3-4-3 formation appears to be a bit of a rare beast nowadays…

    Sanchez
    Shaw / Digne / Tsimikas
    Salah / Son / Sancho / Havertz
    Bamford / Ings / Toney

    Foster / White / Ayling / Brownhill

    1. zon
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Don't trust Everton, Tsimikas a transfer wasted, too soon for Sancho

      1. The Wanton Trader
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks 🙁

      2. gunthourinho
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Timings is a better option than Omobamidele

  7. zon
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Pick a preffered combo

    A) 352: Coufal, Mahrez, Toney (bench: Amartey, Omobamidele)

    B) 352: Coufal, Jota, Ings (bench: Amartey, Omobamidele)

    C) 442: Cresswell, Dias, Ings (bench: Amartey, Gilmour) + 0.5 itb

    1. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

  8. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    I have to ask must even if jota starts vs Norwich, will he start vs Burnley

    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      If he returns something then why not

    2. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I'll ring Klopp

    3. SEXY SON
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Decent chance if he does well yes, I predict Firmino will start GW3 (tougher games).

      In fact I think Jota will be handed starts in the majority of the easier games and Firmino in the tougher games.

  9. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Timmy standing over the free!

  10. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Tsimikas took the free kick but it hit the wall

    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Saving the goals.

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I was just waiting for it to go top bins and that would have been that

  11. Amartey Partey
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Break-out player this season?

    1. Amartey Partey
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Benrahma

    2. SEXY SON
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Tsimikas surely

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Haven't heard of him. He any good?

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          He’s in half the posts of the last hour.

          1. SEXY SON
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            I thought it was 4 different players with all the varied spellings and pseudonyms about 😉

          2. Amartey Partey
            • 4 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            I must have missed them

    3. SEXY SON
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Secretly I think it will be Mbuemo or Cantwell, but keep it hush hush please

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Good calls. They look like they will bag lots of assists, but won't tell anyone.

  12. KGFC
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    How many games do you reckon DDG is a safe pick?

    1. Amartey Partey
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      3

      1. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks

  13. Shark Team
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    I'm Greek so I've watched Tsimikas in more games than anyone else did here. He can surely be a trustworthy asset. In UCL, with Olympiakos, his best games came against strong opponents like Tottenham, Bayern Munich and Juventus because he defended really well against them. He puts a lot of crosses into the box when he has the confidence and he is given the opportunity to do so. So, all in all, he is a great LB who could be a starter in any team apart from the Big 6. I bet that he is gonna start every game till Robbo is fully fit, cause Milner isn't better than him at LB and Klopp knows that. On FPL perspective I think that if you plan without Jota then you should get him from the start for that 3rd Liverpool slot (TAA and Salah should be untouchable), otherwise TAA Salah Jota is still the way to go from Liverpool.

    1. SEXY SON
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Very sensible post, thank you 🙂

    2. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Thx for input! Been set on Jota but surely an interesting option

    3. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      thanks

    4. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I wanted Arsenal to sign him after his performance vs us. Very impressive imo.

    5. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Spot on.

    6. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Cheers for this.

    7. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I'm Tsimikas' mum, and I think you should avoid. He suffers night terrors before big games.

      1. Samwise
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Tsimikas came to Mordor with Frodo and I... very reliable in a tough situation!

    8. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Im his distant dead comedians older brother. Hes very average and likely to be rotated with Milner.

      1. OverTinker
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        distant dead comedians older brother? That means you must be a clown right?

  14. WVA
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Does anyone want some cash? I don't need 1.5m of my budget.

    Sanchez
    TAA Shaw Tsimikas
    Salah Bruno Barnes Raphina
    Ings Antonio Toney
    Foster Brownhill Ayling Amartey

    1. SEXY SON
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Super Saints is getting Tsimikas, everyone jump off while you can!
      His luck last season means he’s a no go!

      1. WVA
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Surely I used all my bad luck up, this season my captain will score a hat trick every week

        1. SEXY SON
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          I will monitor you progress this year.
          I’m due a bad one after my year!

  15. chaser123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Any suggestions? Not sure about Greenwood!?

    Sanchez
    TAA Shaw Coufal Tsimikas
    Salah Bruno Greenwood Havertz
    Antonio Toney

    (Steele White Brownhill Obafemi)

  16. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Gomez/Konate have been very good albeit the opposition is poor. Will be interesting to see who partners big Virgil.

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Matip

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Konate will ; why we bought him

  17. WrightnBright
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Trying out a big hitter midfield, no Trent - thoughts?

    Sanchez
    Targett Coufal Shaw Tsimikas
    Salah, Bruno, Son, Mahrez,
    Ings, Antonio

    Foster, Brownhill, Amartey, Obafemi

  18. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    If you are wildcarding early, thoughts on Jota over Salah?

    1. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      No

    2. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      No brainer based on pre-season.

    3. Shark Team
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Salah last season was quiet on friendlies so I decided to go with Auba, you know the answer after Salah's hattrick vs LEE in gw1. I believe that Salah's gw1 goal(s) every season is something inevitable

    4. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Have both

    5. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Firmino has just scored a brace. Significant?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Not sure. The fact they haven't signed a Gini replacement could mean they play all 4 in more of a 4231?

  19. Stevecat
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    How does this look?

    Sanchez (Steele)

    Tsimikas, coufal, amartey, white (lowton)
    Salah, mane, havartz, Bruno (Gilmore)
    Ings, Antonio (Obafeme)

    1. zon
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Asking for trouble with that backline.

  20. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    How unlucky is Tsimikas to have to be be backup to Robertson of all people?

    1. Amartey Partey
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Not for long

  21. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    tbh i had trent ,robbo and salah as a few others will have ,comparitvely easy decision to put tsimi in for robbo and 3.0 coins to spend elsewhere ,it really is a no brainer

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      They were the 3 I had myself.

  22. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Liverpool concede. One of the Garcia scores and assists

  23. Amartey Partey
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    The sh*t thing about starting TAA and the Greek Messi/Roberto Carlos is I still think Liverpool will concede against Norwich.

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Throw in Shaw conceding vs Leeds and it's not looking good for 343s

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        True

  24. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Tsmikas BAPS gone.

    1. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      still on 1 bap

  25. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    heres an A or B im really surprised has not been posted all day so i will

    A raphinha and wilson
    or
    B willock and bamford

    1. RichieW
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Benrahma + Bamford?

      1. Jordan.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        nah got antonio thats far too much hammers

  26. RichieW
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Taking a punt on Werner for Gw1 worth it? Will Lukaku go straight into the team? 2m itb hoping Lukaku will be 11m

    Sanchez
    Coufal Amartey Shaw
    Salah Bruno Barnes Benrahma
    Ings Werner Antonio

    4.0 Tsimi Dier Brownhill

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      No way Lukaku starts ; I'd wait on Chelsea assets myself . .

      1. RichieW
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Was thinking
        GW1 Werner(c)
        GW2 Werner>Bamford

  27. Robman
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Hi folks, any advice on this team:

    Sanchez / Steele
    Dunk / White / Amartey / TAA / Shaw or MacGuire
    Bruno / Salah / Barnes / Smith-Rowe / Gundogan
    Antonio / Ings / 4.5
    ITB: 0.5m

    Plan is to start this 3-5-2 line up for GW1, then transfer either Barnes or Gundogan ahead of GW2 for Brownhill (4.5m), freeing up enough funds to bring in Lukaku for Ings. I'm expecting Lukaku to be 11-11.5m and want him in on time to see him batter the Arsenal defence in GW2. Any advice much appreciated.

  28. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Tsimikas out

  29. Steirish
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Sanchez

    TAA Shaw Coufal Tsimikas

    Son Bruno Salah

    Ings Antonio Toney

    Foster/Bisouma/Amartey/Gilmour

    Am I good to go for the first 3/4 weeks?

  30. Shark Team
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Those worried about Salah's blanks in preseason:
    Salah hasn't scored in a friendly game since August 2018 Vs Napoli

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      yeah, he doesn't do friendlies.

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      It's rarely a first team in friendlies ; wasn't yesterday either.