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Dugout Discussion November 20

Liverpool v Arsenal team news: Tsimikas starts as Robertson misses out

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Seven down, one to go: the final Premier League match of the day sees Liverpool play host to Arsenal at a rain-soaked Anfield.

Kick-off on Merseyside is at 17:30 GMT.

The Reds scored three goals home and away against Arsenal last season and have found the net on 28 occasions in their last eight home league meetings with the Gunners.

Mohamed Salah personally has six goals and four assists in eight fixtures against Arsenal since joining Liverpool in 2017, averaging 8.13 points per match.

The Egyptian is part of an unchanged front three this evening, taking his place alongside Diogo Jota and Sadio Mane.

Jurgen Klopp has been forced into two alterations elsewhere, however, with captain Jordan Henderson only fit enough to make the bench and Andrew Robertson absent entirely.

Thiago Alcantara and Konstantinos Tsimikas come in to replace them.

Mikel Arteta’s only change from the 1-0 win over Watford in Gameweek 11 is a predictable one: Thomas Partey returns from a muscle injury at the expense of Ainsley Maitland-Niles.

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang is also fit enough to feature despite some cryptic comments from his manager in Friday’s pre-match press conference.

GAMEWEEK 12 LINE-UPS

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Tsimikas, Thiago, Fabinho, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Salah, Jota, Mane.

Subs: Kelleher, Konate, Beck, Bradley, Phillips, Morton, Henderson, Minamino, Gordon.

Arsenal XI: Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, White, Gabriel, Tavares, Saka, Sambi Lokonga, Partey, Smith Rowe, Lacazette, Aubameyang.

Subs: Leno, Tierney, Cedric Soares, Holding, Elneny, Maitland-Niles, Pepe, Odegaard, Martinelli.

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  1. gart888
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Have had enough of sitting on the sideline of the Chelsea FB bonanza.

    Have the money to upgrade White to one of them.

    a) Chilwell
    b) James
    c) Both (swapping Rudiger for the other for a -4)

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      B

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    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      B

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    3. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      B

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    4. Gold Monster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      James NQAT

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    5. McGazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Watch the whole of Chelsea’s last 2-3 games. Serious suggestion. Then you will get both and not need to ask. It is just a joke how productive those 2 are. Chilwell had 5 or 6 moments today hunting tap ins from the penalty spot and in. I went 5 atb on WC a few weeks ago incl Trent cancelo chilwell James and love it

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      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Agree they will both keep scoring

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      2. gart888
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        I have watched their last few games, which is why I don't think it's a no brainer to go James over Chilwell. Chilwell as making dangerous runs up the middle. Far from a cross merchant.

        Unfortunately I went from James to Rudiger when James sprained his ankle, and don't have the luxury of going from Rudiger back to one of them right now.

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  2. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Who is more of a priority:

    1. Gallagher
    2. Jota

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Jota

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      1. FCSB
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        even for -4 ?

        I can either do Mbeumo >> Gallagher now to avoid being priced out

        Or wait and get Jota for -4

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        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Really depends on team

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          1. FCSB
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Ramsdale
            TAA Cancelo James Chilwell
            Salah Son Foden Raphinha
            Jimenez Antonio

            Foster Mbeumo Livramento Davis

            1FT, 0.4itb

            Thanks

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            1. Pat Bonner
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              2 years, 5 months ago

              It’s a really nice team. Problem with getting Gallagher is who would you bench? I’d probably save and reassess with 2 frees as will give you flexibility to move for likes of jota if you wanted to

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              1. FCSB
                • 8 Years
                2 years, 5 months ago

                I know what you mean… I’d likely bench Antonio this week FWIW, unless there was an injury concern

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            2. The Pesci challenge
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              • 9 Years
              2 years, 5 months ago

              1

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    2. Firmino
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I think that is pretty obvious

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    3. el polako
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Depends on Firminio's recovery progress.

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    4. DB_00
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Easily Jota

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  3. waltzingmatildas
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Duffy, mbeumo, Antonio to
    James, jota, Davis (-4) gives me

    Guaita
    TAA cancelo Chilwell James
    Salah foden jota raph
    Kane toney
    (Foster livra normann davis)

    Only issue is I need to do it tonight, but think it might be worth it. What do you reckon?

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Really like those moves

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      1. waltzingmatildas
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah me too!
        I'm normally very cautious and do transfers just before deadline, but think it's worth the risk. Cheers

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        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          You’d end up with almost my exact team - I have reguilon over your chilwell

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          1. waltzingmatildas
            • 13 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Very nice! Hope we both do well then!

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  4. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Have to decide tonight:

    1, Havertz Livra to Gallagher TAA
    2. Havertz Livra to ESR TAA
    3. Havertz Mbeumo Livra to BSilva 4.4 TAA -4

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    1. dunas_dog
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      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      1

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    2. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      1

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    3. Atimis
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Cheers and good luck guys

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  5. The Pesci challenge
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Benrahma to

    A. Cornet
    Or
    B. ESR

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    1. Gold Monster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      A

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      1. The Pesci challenge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Thank you sir

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    2. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      A, great little player

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  6. Swan - Villa Proud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Test

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    1. Fitzy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Passed

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    2. Gold Monster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      icles

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    3. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Failed.

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  7. Captain Vantastic™
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Would you do Mount and Duffy to Gallagher and James for -4?

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I think the hit will pay off over next few weeks

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  8. Beautiful Game
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Any transfer suggestions would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks in advance!

    Ramsdale | Foster
    TAA | Cancelo | James | Manquilo | Johnson
    Salah | Son | Foden | Gallagher | Mbuemo
    Kane | Toney | Davis

    1 FT, 0ITB

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Looks an easy save

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    2. waltzingmatildas
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Yep save

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  9. Willesden Mariner
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Are Kane and Jota likely to rise tonite? How quick are those bandwagons? Don't want to lose 0.1 or 0.2

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      They’ll probably be close but wait if you can afford to

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  10. Drogba Legend
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Hanging around 10-20k OR. TAA is my next move

    Dias or Rudiger > TAA

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    1. Lord of Ings
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Dias

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    2. waltzingmatildas
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Dias

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    3. Drogba Legend
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I also have James and Cancelo

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    4. Mozumbus
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Amazing rank without TAA. Unbelievable!

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      1. Drogba Legend
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers. Had him all season minus past 2-3 weeks since I WC’d

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  11. Lord of Ings
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Is raphinha out of tomorrow game?

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    1. waltzingmatildas
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Seen rumours but nothing definite

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      1. Well you know, Triffic
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Link to the rumours?

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        1. waltzingmatildas
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          https://twitter.com/FPLTIPSINDIA/status/1462050222100520967?t=isYpNjuvAjeXZ-05iS-f0A&s=19

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      2. FCSB
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Where have you seen?

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    2. el polako
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Why would he be ?

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    3. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Really hope not!

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  12. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Ronaldo and sarr > tekkers and son -4

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    1. Lord of Ings
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Ronaldo has a great run coming up
      Hold because you’ll want him for that run.

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      1. artvandelay316
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Fixture-wise he was also expected to perform today. I think best to avoid MUN entirely.

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      2. No Professionals
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Chelsea, arsenal and palace and great at the moment. Palace going well and arsenal are good against poor teams.

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  13. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Ramsdale
    TAA Cancelo James Chilwell
    Salah Son Foden Raphinha
    Jimenez Antonio

    Foster Mbeumo Livramento Davis

    1FT, 0.4itb

    Early thoughts as 1. will need to be done now to avoid being priced out:

    1. Mbeumo >> Gallagher (possibly play over Antonio who has Man City)
    2. Mbeumo Jimenez >> Jota Hwang (-4)
    3. Save FT

    Thanks guys

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  14. Chandler Bing
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Who's a bigger priority atm? Jota or Reece?

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Reece I think

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    2. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      If you don’t have any Chelsea defs then Reece but if you have one I would go jota instead

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      1. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        I do have Chilwell

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    3. Gold Monster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Reece

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  15. Lord of Ings
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Any changes needed to this squad for next gw?

    Sanchez
    Cancelo TAA Chillwell
    Foden salah jota raphinha
    Vardy Toney pukki
    .1 ITB,0 FT

    Foster sarr livramento williams

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    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Just some spurs if you can

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  16. Athletico Underachieving
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Shocker of a week, Rudi benching set the tone:

    Ramsdale
    TAA, Rudi, Cancelo
    Salah, Son, Gallagher, Mbeumo
    Antonio, Hwang, Vardy

    Foster, Livra, Lowton, Sissoko
    1FT, 1.8 ITB

    A) Lowton - James
    B) Lowton - Chilwell
    C) Mbeumo - Cornet/Jota

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    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      C jota

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  17. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    I am devastated on a red arrow - I dropped 32 places!

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  18. Van der Faart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Hate doing early moves but Duffy likely to drop tonight. Won't be priced out but every 0.1 counts right?

    Duffy to James
    Antonio to Dennis

    Following week I want to do Dias to Cancelo so need money ITB for that. Will allow me to stick with 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 going forward

    Foster/Sanchez
    TAA Rudiger Livra Dias* Duffy*
    Salah Raphinha Jota Gallagher Bissouma
    Hwang Antonio Kane

    Thoughts on the early hit or ride it out?

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    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Not worth it IMO
      He unlikely to drop anyway

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    2. Gross Blank Point
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I always go for an early transfer. I like a high team value as the season goes on. Don't think I've ever been unlucky enough for the dreaded injury to strike after a transfer

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  19. Pat Bonner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Not going to be impressed if raphinha and foden miss out tomorrow! They’re my main differentials in mini league

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    1. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Foden starts

      He looked great in training

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      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Fingers crossed!

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    2. Walter White (WW)
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Raph will start

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      1. Walter White (WW)
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Maybe Foden cameo

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        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Livramento off the bench so would probably take that!

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          1. Walter White (WW)
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            🙂

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    3. kennethrhcp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      im hoping Foden misses out... Rudiger 1st on bench

      or 1 of cancelo/son to miss

      I'd say Im stuck with Rudi on bench

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    4. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Why would Raphinha miss out… Haven’t seen any news?

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  20. pundit of punts
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    I’m done. Can’t sweat it all week.

    Ramsdale
    TAA - Cancelo - James
    Salah - Son - Foden - Jota - ESR
    Vardy - Hwang

    Foster - Livramento - Manquillo - Locadia

    Vardy ➡ Lukaku pencilled in for next gw

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Looks really good! That midfield is brilliant. What about hwang to benteke instead?

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      1. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Definitely an option

        Not deciding on that move until I watch the games next week

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    2. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Amazing midfield

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  21. MIGHTY JOE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    So TAA in no matter the cost now I guess? Damn that guy is destroying me

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    1. Pinturicchio10
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Did it already. The experiment failed. Oh well 😀

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      • Il Capitano
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        yes

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    2. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Evening all!! Sorry if it’s been asked before is there any rumblings about of Foden will play??! I don’t want Livramentos points off the bench this week!! Haha

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Chances….
        Trained - Good
        No KDB- Good
        UCL midweek - Bad
        Knock -Bad

        We all want benched so he plays 🙂

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        1. CrouchDown
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Who have you all got on bench?

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    3. The Mighty Hippo
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      What do you reckon?

      a) Grealish to Jota
      b) Grealish and Vardy to Mane and Benteke

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      1. Il Capitano
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        A

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      2. The FPL Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        B with Jota

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      3. Pukki Party
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        I like Mane as an option atm, Salah is owned by everyone so makes watching Liverpool enjoyable

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    4. Sarri-ball
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Currently own chiwell/rudigar what 2 do

      A) rud to james
      B) stick with the 2 got

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        I think one wing back one cb is best option
        Chilwell and James together could end in tears

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        1. Bennerman
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          In what respect would two wing-backs end in tears, but a wing-back and a centre-back not?

          Seems not that different for one to be tear-worthy, one not

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          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
            • 14 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            As in James and Chilwell are more likely to be rotated occasionally
            Rudiger less so imo

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            1. Bennerman
              • 5 Years
              2 years, 5 months ago

              Ah, I see

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            2. Sarri-ball
              • 14 Years
              2 years, 5 months ago

              Rotation was reason went rud over james few weeks back.

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      2. acidicleo
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        if no other pressing issues do A

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    5. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      31
      21
      17

      My bench the last 3 weeks 🙄

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      1. kennethrhcp
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        made me feel better thanks 🙂

        16
        26
        21

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Only by 6 though

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    6. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Would you wc to get James+Chilwell and Son?

      Guaita
      TAA Cancelo Cresswell Rudiger
      Salah Jota Raphinha Grealish*
      Antonio Jesus

      Foster Mbeumo Davis Lowton

      Thinking the defenders are the only thing we are pretty sure will last for a while (taa, cancelo and chelsea wingbacks). Would bring Son in over ManCity guys too.

      A) wc
      B) use 2ft and get them in over a few gameweeks

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Wait to see Son play

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    7. FCSB
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Sorry to ask again just need to make a decision (to avoid being priced out of 1.) then get on with my day 🙂 I’m not usually one for early transfers but think it might be necessary here… thoughts?!

      Ramsdale
      TAA Cancelo James Chilwell
      Salah Son Foden Raphinha
      Jimenez Antonio

      Foster Mbeumo Livramento Davis

      1FT, 0.4itb

      1. Mbeumo >> Gallagher (possibly play over Antonio who has Man City)
      2. Mbeumo Jimenez >> Jota Hwang (-4)
      3. Save FT

      Thanks guys

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      1. Pukki Party
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        1 for me, 2 is one downgrade one upgrade for a hit.

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      2. Bennerman
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        For me, 1.

        That or 3, it's close. If the price rises in the meantime, you'll feel well zen anyway, burden lifted

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        1. FCSB
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          So go with 1 before price changes?

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          1. Bennerman
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            I'm a bit torn. Jump on one 1, or leave and feel the peace.

            Probably 1, yeah, proactive.

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            1. FCSB
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 5 months ago

              Thanks man

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      3. kennethrhcp
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        1

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    8. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Is Ole sacked yet?

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      1. Bennerman
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        You must have the internet to be on here

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      2. kennethrhcp
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        i read a min ago that still hanging on

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      3. FCSB
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Surely has to go

        Steve Bruce caretaker

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    9. drughi
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Chance of Foden playing tomorrow ? Livramento 1 pointer first on bench

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      1. Firmino
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        60%

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    10. Philosopher's Stones
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Anyone else not opened their app yet and probably won't for the rest of the season? 😛

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Don’t use the app

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