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FPL Gameweek 17 team drafts: Odegaard over Martinelli and Saka?

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Here, Burning Questions co-host Sonaldo (aka Andy) talks us through his Gameweek 17 thoughts and plans.

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According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the word anticipation “implies a prospect or outlook that involves advance suffering or enjoyment of what is foreseen.” I want to assume that whoever defined anticipation was thinking about FPL.

While the World Cup break was much needed for many managers, you can feel the anticipation in the air as FPL is about to return to full flow. Whether we suffer with red arrows or enjoy the green variety, certainly the game we love is officially back.

In this article, I try to explain my decisions with some difficult 50/50 calls before presenting my team. Of course, my team is not 100% set and things are subject to change before the deadline. 

KDB v Salah

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It feels like a huge swing in variance is about to happen with the Kevin De Bruyne (£12.6m) v Mohamed Salah (£12.8m) decision. No matter how people feel about this, to me, it is a very tight call and I feel I can make strong arguments for each side. I am leaning towards one or the other (on De Bruyne for now) and don’t see a scenario where I will get both. This is because owning the pair and Erling Haaland (£12.2m) means a lot of money tied up on three players and makes my overall team weaker. I wouldn’t recommend a ‘threemium’ if your team value is quite low. 

I also think that those who will go for Harry Kane (£11.6m) have a perfectly sound reason to do so. Let’s remember Kane has only blanked three times this season (consistency is king) so he is a perfectly fine premium option to go with as Spurs have a Double Gameweek 20 if no FA Cup third-round replay for the Lilywhites or Manchester City is needed. However, with Darwin Nunez (£9.0m) as my second-choice striker and Kane’s expensive price point, he is out of the picture for me. 

The common narrative that we are all aware of is that De Bruyne has become more of an assist-type FPL player, while Salah is now up top with Darwin and can be more explosive. But this season, Liverpool have struggled- and with it Salah, too. Essentially, the Egyptian is just not getting the same amount of chances as we are used to. Furthermore, because De Bruyne is creating so many big chances, his bonus points potential is quite high, while Salah has never been a bonus magnet. There is also an interesting stat about Salah still yet to receive a spot-kick this season, which means his penalty opportunities may come soon. 

After our Burning Questions episode with Pras on Thursday, I was hoping the Carabao Cup tie between City and Liverpool would ease my decision and I think it helped a bit. 

City v Liverpool

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City started without their strongest squad and had two young guns, Cole Palmer (£4.3m) and Rico Lewis (£3.9m), in the starting XI, both of whom played excellently.

Palmer, who usually plays on the right in Riyad Mahrez‘s (£7.5m) role, was deployed on the opposite flank. This could be seen as a classic Guardiola tactic as he wants his wingers to use the width of the pitch.

Lewis, who started at right-back, was basically playing Joao Cancelo’s (£7.4m) role. What happens with this formation is that City transform into a 2-3-5 when attacking. We have seen this formation shift many times throughout this season. In this particular game, Lewis moved in to midfield alongside Rodri (£5.6m), allowing for both De Bruyne and Ilkay Gundogan (£7.3m) to run up the pitch with freedom and join a five-man attack (Palmer, Haaland, Mahrez, De Bruyne and Gundogan). 

Why am I mentioning these tactical shifts? Because what we learned once again from this game is that no matter which players play for City, the system is so strong that the quality of football they display is not hurt with the absence of key players.

Below is an image from a Premier League game back in August versus Newcastle. You can see the same exact pattern where City shift to a 2-3-5. The three here in this case involves Cancelo and Kyle Walker (£4.8m) shifting in alongside Rodri. 

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This next image was from the Carabao Cup, where you can see Gundogan and De Bruyne forming part of a five-man attack when pushing up the pitch. 

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While this is not the only way City play, it is a quite common tactical pattern. The opposition defence is overwhelmed at times because centrally they need to mark Haaland, De Bruyne and Gundogan. But if the defence comes too central, then the wide wingers in Palmer and Mahrez have all the space in the world to create 1v1 situations. Gundogan is allowed to move up with De Bruyne because Lewis (or Cancelo) covers in the midfield with Rodri. 

Therefore in this game vs Liverpool, we saw many chances where City would spread the ball wide to Palmer or Mahrez, which would attract a defender to them and allow for space in behind for Gundogan or De Bruyne to run through (much like Granit Xhaka (£5.1m) at Arsenal). 

This all ties back to De Bruyne, who had all the space in the world in this game to create chances through his god-like crossing ability. And who is waiting in the middle? Erling Haaland.

The quick summary here is that regardless of rotation for this game, City’s attacking approach was flawless and De Bruyne in this system is a cheat code. You may argue that Liverpool don’t sit back like other teams would, but the same can be said about the Reds themselves, who have struggled to break down teams that sit back this season. Plus, City play Leeds first, which is a perfect De Bruyne-type of game. 

On the flip side of this attacking 2-3-5 is that it opens a lot of space on the counter for teams playing against City. Since you have just two at the back, as long as the opposition (Liverpool) can counter fast, they can utilize this space in behind. City in general want the ball and are trying to command games and are always marching forward. We saw this in this game where City were caught on the counter and using Nunez’s speed, Salah was also able to get a goal. 

The stand-out player from Liverpool’s attack for me was Nunez. But Nunez is Nunez’s worst enemy. While he is a speed demon with marvelous off-the-ball movement, his finishing has been woeful at times (zero shots on target on Thursday). The assist to Salah was fantastic, but I question if we will see his finishing ability get stronger in the short term. 

In all, I still think one game is too little to judge both teams, but De Bruyne showed enough signs that he is coming for the league after a difficult World Cup. 

Salah could easily explode and be back to his best so I want to keep my options open till the last day, but right now, I am leaning much more towards De Bruyne given his potential doubles as well. 

Arsenal

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Arsenal are top of the Premier League and have been in marvelous form this season. Their team attacking xG data is quite similar to 2021/22 but their defensive xGC stats have risen tremendously.

While the initial fixtures are not the best from Gameweek 17, Arsenal’s schedule does improve around Gameweek 22 and there is a high potential that a ‘double’ falls for them in Gameweek 21. So, it is impossible to ignore their assets now as we will want them in a month’s time.

This makes Ben White (£4.7m) a no-brainer for me as I don’t want to have to deal with bringing him in later. However, picking between the attacking options is tough. The biggest question we must ask ourselves is whether Gabriel Jesus (£8.0m) being unavailable will affect them attacking wise but since their team xG is similar to last season, I want to assume that not a drastic difference will be seen. Of course, football doesn’t always work that way. 

Surprisingly, Martin Odegaard (£6.4m) has the highest non-penalty xGI of the Arsenal midfielders, followed by Bukayo Saka (£8.0m) and Gabriel Martinelli (£6.8m). I am torn between the three. Saka is the best option, but this means I need to go with Anthony Martial (£6.7m), who I am not fully convinced by. Martinelli is a sensible pick but since I have no value tied up in him anymore, I am considering a sneaky Odegaard punt. I want to assume that against these difficult fixtures, Arsenal will have to find ways to win and his set-piece threat as well as his ability to create might bode well. 

The issue with Odegaard is that if I do go for him, and Martinelli and Saka emerge as the obvious options, I am stuck with him. 

Chelsea

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Chelsea is a tough puzzle to solve. With two solid fixtures followed up by a difficult double, most of us will have Kepa Arrizabalaga (£4.5m) and Reece James (£5.8m) for good reason.

Mason Mount (£7.5m) is also a good option to have. His stats don’t convince me and nor do his performances from this season either but fixtures breed form. He is a flat-track bully with a Double Gameweek coming up, so it is difficult to ignore. 

THE Uniteds

There is no doubt I will go with Marcus Rashford (£6.7m) but I am quite literally 50/50 on Martial versus Callum Wilson (£7.4m). 

Miguel Almiron (£5.8m) is a self-explanatory pick. He’s great value for someone who has similar xGI stats as nearly all the £8.0m midfielder options.

Wilson has made it into my team recently and I’m quite happy with him at the moment. I just value him as a tremendous finisher and one of the best strikers in the league as long as he stays fit. It’s between him and Martial with the news that Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.8m) may be out. 

Here is my team below, but just a day earlier I had Saka and Mitrovic instead of Martinelli and Wilson, so this could change. I am set on all the spots except Odegaard and Wilson. This can easily become Saka/Martinelli/Mount/Zaha and Martial!

Good luck everyone and welcome back to FPL!

Haaland Foden


720 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Vjm6891
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Do I have Kane, KDB or Salah in.

    A) Kane and up to 8.9 midfielder (so probably Mount?)

    B) KDB and Adams (could get up to 7.4 so Wilson an option)

    C) same as B but Salah.

    Already have Haaland, Darwin and Almiron.

  2. Claudio555
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Rashford or Martinelli?

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      I have both. Arsenal fan here and with injury to Jesus I do not think we will score a huge amount of goals in coming weeks so bit nervous with Martinelli.

      However, he may spend time nearer the goal without Jesus so still worth a hold IMO to see how things go.

      1. Scholes Out For Summer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        rashford

        You can wait and see for the next few GWs and bring in the form arsenal player

  3. The Count of Monte Cristo
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Low TV but feel pretty settled on this (rather template) squad.

    Correct XI and bench order?

    Ward
    James -- Trippier -- Shaw
    KDB -- Almirón -- Rashford -- Martinelli
    Haaland -- Darwin -- Kane
    --------------------------------------------------
    Iversen | White | Andreas | Bueno + 0.0m

    1. Bored Ape Jota Club
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      I would put Andreas first on bench.

      1. The Count of Monte Cristo
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Merci!

  4. Gassemannen
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Any suggestions or G2G?

    Kepa (Ward)
    James - Walker - Shaw (Patterson - Bueno)
    KdB - Fernandes - Mount - Martinelli - Rashford
    Haaland - Nunez (Greenwood)

  5. checkit_j
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Martinelli leaves me with 1.6m itb or do I bring saka in and have 0 itb

    1. Guttelim
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Stay with Martinelli, spend elsewhere

    2. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Not worth that price for the upgrade IMO. Stick and see how things go

  6. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Darwin is a doubt isnt it?

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      why?

  7. Zenith UK
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Before or after thoughts please?

    Pope*, Ward
    Cancelo, Trippier, White, Guehi*, Neco*
    Foden, Trossard*, Martinelli, Almiron, Andreas
    Haaland, Kane, Darwin

    Pope > Kepa
    Guehi > Robbo
    Neco > James
    Trossard > MacAllister

    Exact funds. Aware MacAllister is out until 3rd January but that's fine, this team is gonna give me a bit of a benching headache regardless so at least it's 1/3 bench choices decided for the next two weeks.

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      cancelo trips james robbo white??? Who are you going to bench

      1. Zenith UK
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Probably White.

        1. Scholes Out For Summer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 year, 5 months ago

          dont think you need robbo if you have cancelo james tripps

          1. Zenith UK
            • 7 Years
            1 year, 5 months ago

            Think he'll be one of my differentials and the extra funds, even if I drop to Bueno doesn't make Foden KDB and only gets Trossard to 10.8M

    2. Zenith UK
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Alternatively;

      Cancelo > Walker & Trossard stays as is.
      0.9 banked for future changes.

  8. BlzE_94
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Would you downgrade Cancelo to James and upgrade Patterson/Bueno

    Ward
    Cancelo Trippier White
    KDB Martinelli Rashford Almiron
    Haaland Kane Darwin

    Iverson Andreas Bueno Patterson

    1. BeWater
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      I'm doing this. My defence...

      Trippier James Botman Dunk Gabriel

  9. Scholes Out For Summer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Think I'm settle on this now, aiming to bring in Arsenal attackers and Trossard for their doubles in the next 4 GWs. any glaring mistakes?

    Kepa - Ward
    Cancelo - James - Tripps - White - Bueno
    Salah - Foden - Rash - Almiron - Andreas
    Haaland - Darwin - Martial

    1.2ITB

    1. Letsgo!
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Trossard got double?

      1. Scholes Out For Summer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        gw 21 most likeyl

    2. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Given what you said above, no glaring mistakes! Good side!

  10. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Less than 11 hours to deadline and still no predicted line up for Man City 🙁

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      How often is the predicted line up for Man City right? Is there any point trying to second guess Pep?

  11. FPL Emu
    • 13 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    A) Patterson as 4th defender, with money in the bank

    B) Castagne to rotate with White

    C) Shaw, downgrade Ward to Iversen

  12. Guttelim
    • 2 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    A: KDB, Mount, Darwin
    B: Salah, Foden, Havertz

    1. whitearselane
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      A

    2. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      A

    3. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      A

  13. Shark Team
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Start Andreas or Bueno? (Lopetegui bounce)

    1. FPL Emu
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Still Andreas imo

    2. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Andreas

    3. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      A

  14. FCHaalandaise
    • 1 Year
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Any love for this 4mium???

    Ward
    Trippier James White
    Salah KDB Almiron Andreas Martinelli
    Kane Haaland

    Iverson Greenwood Perraud Bueno

    1. Our Tiny Windows
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Yup I can love that.

      1. FCHaalandaise
        • 1 Year
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Otherwise it would be Darwin and Rashford in a 3 4 3 but I am liking the 4mium tbh!

  15. Hairy Potter
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Crazy that I prefer Leno over Kepa for GW18 and 19?

    1. Our Tiny Windows
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      No!

    2. bombonera
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Wouldn't bank on Fulham for clean sheets

      1. Hairy Potter
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Don't really fancy Chelsea either. Leno seems decent for save points and slightly prefer Fulham's fixtures over Chelsea.

        1. bombonera
          • 2 Years
          1 year, 5 months ago

          If you don't fancy Chelsea then fair enough. Don't go for Fulham just because of the double though

          1. Hairy Potter
            • 9 Years
            1 year, 5 months ago

            Fair point

          2. Hairy Potter
            • 9 Years
            1 year, 5 months ago

            He rotates quite well fixture-wise with Ward.

  16. putana
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    saka or foden for the next few weeks?

    1. Our Tiny Windows
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Foden

    2. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Foden for me, but always rotation threat with Pep.

    3. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Foden for me

  17. Ronnies
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Ederson
    James Trippier Gabriel
    Salah Saka Rashford Trossard
    Haaland Darwin Wilson

    Iversen Andreas Patterson Bueno

    Thoughts?
    Cheers.

    1. Our Tiny Windows
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Solid

    2. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      v gd

  18. Ohh1454
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Kdb or Salah ?

    1. Our Tiny Windows
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      KDB

    2. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      salah

    3. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      I’m going with neither of them sorry … but gun against head … KDB

    4. DARE TO BISCAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      KDB

    5. RICICLE
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 5 months ago

      KDB easily

  19. DARE TO BISCAN
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Got Saliba for 4.6. Now worth 4.9 to me. Is it worth spending 0.3 to switch to Gabriel?

    Also have White in my squad, bought for 4.6. So, could save cash and keep him instead.

    Who would you go for. Assuming I can afford any of them. Would you look to save cash, or get Gabriel (consensus seems to be he's the best option)?

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Would keep Saliba. Gabriel has more goal threat but no need to spend the extra money if you already have Saliba IMO

  20. whitearselane
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Last choice require guidance

    A Shaw Doherty Mitrovic
    B James Bueno Nkeitah

    Thoughts please

    1. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Don’t like either of those options if I’m being honest. Sorry.

  21. N00B
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Is anyone on 3 attacking players from City?

    A) Shaw - Foden - Saka
    or
    B) Cancelo - Trossard - Martinelli

    Kepa
    James Trippier __
    KDB Rashford __ __
    Haaland Darwin Wilson

    Bench: Ward, Andreas, White, Patterson

    1. Our Tiny Windows
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Yes Haaland KDB and Foden. It feels great.

    2. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      On Haaland, KDB and Foden at the minute.

  22. Our Tiny Windows
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    I think Saliba to Gabriel is a great move

    1. Our Tiny Windows
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Oops that’s for Dare To Biscsn

      1. DARE TO BISCAN
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Okay, ta 🙂

  23. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    I thought darwin was absent from training? So u guys sure he start?

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Think he was just late and missed photo session

  24. Fit_to_drop
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Is Summerville over Andreas risky?

    Will be playing my 5th mid.

    Have enough cash to get either.

    1. FPL Emu
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Because of the double i think so

  25. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Presently have Saka and Martinelli- who would you sell for Rashford?

    A Saka (and have 2.1 m left in bank)
    B Martinelli ( and don’t worry about .4 m value loss)

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      B if you have no other plans for the cash

  26. Eh, just one more thing ...
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Hello - Start who?

    1. Almiron
    2. Wilson

    Thanks.

    1. OLLY G
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Wilson. He has pennos after all.

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      2

  27. OLLY G
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Who should l first sub please?

    (A) Andreas
    (B) Gabriel

    Thanks

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      A

    2. F_Ivanovic
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      I'd be playing Gabriel, so B.

    3. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      B

  28. FPL Emu
    • 13 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Who would you rather have starting between GW 19-21?

    A) Digne at 4.6 (WOL, LEE, sou)

    B) Castagne at 4.7 (FUL, nfo, BHA)

    C) Perraud at 4.4 (NFO, eve, AVL)

    D) Patterson at 4.0 (BHA, SOU, whu)

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      C

    2. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      B …. A is good too … but Digne, I just can’t … too many bad memories.

  29. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Trossard or Martinelli!

    1. FPL Emu
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Martinelli if no other Arse attack

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Tanks x

    2. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      M

  30. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Darwin and trossard
    Or bailey and kane

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      A

    2. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      A