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Robertson falls foul of rotation as Mané and Alexander-Arnold return

Andrew Robertson (£7.1m) is the latest victim of manager Jurgen Klopp’s festive rotation, having to watch the match against Watford from the bench as Sadio Mané (£12.3m) and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.3m) return to Liverpool’s starting line-up.

Today is their fourth of ten December fixtures but Klopp has selected an attacking side in their quest to go 11 points clear of Leicester. James Milner (£5.3m) is in at left-back over Robertson.

Not only are Mané, Mohamed Salah (£12.2m) and Roberto Firmino (£9.3m) all starting this lunchtime, the inclusion of Xherdan Shaqiri (£6.3m) suggests a potential system change to 4-2-3-1 from the usual 4-3-3.

At the back, Dejan Lovren (£5.3m) limped off after 39 minutes of last week’s 3-0 win at Bournemouth but was deemed fit enough to start in Salzburg on Tuesday. However, he was forced off again with a hamstring injury and his place alongside Virgil van Dijk (£6.4m) has been given to Joe Gomez (£5.1m).

Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.4m) comes in for Naby Keita (£5.8m) in midfield, who joins Robertson, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.2m) and Divock Origi (£5.2m) as Liverpool substitutes.

In the opposing dugout is Nigel Pearson. His first team selection as Watford manager has brought two changes from last Saturday’s dour 0-0 draw with Crystal Palace.

Adam Masina (£4.3m) and Roberto Pereyra (£5.6m) have made way, with experienced centre-back Adrian Mariappa (£4.2m) starting at right-back and Will Hughes (£5.4m) playing behind captain Troy Deeney (£6.2m).

The lack of Jose Holebas (£4.7m) has forced usual right-back Kiko Femenia (£4.2m) to the left against Salah, although the Hornets may see the pace of Ismaïla Sarr (£6.2m) against Milner as a way to find some success against the European champions.

Liverpool XI (4-2-3-1): Alisson; Milner, van Dijk, Gomez, Alexander-Arnold; Wijnaldum, Henderson; Mané, Shaqiri, Salah; Firmino.

Watford XI (4-2-3-1): Foster; Femenia, Cathcart, Kabasele, Mariappa; Capoue, Doucoure; Deulofeu, Hughes, Sarr; Deeney.

FPLMarc Newcastle fan that spends far too much time thinking about FPL.

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  1. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Still havent had a single VAR decision go my way all season. This time two decisions. Mane disallowed and Salah allowed. Piss off.

    1. Marvin Moon
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      VAR stinks.

    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Those were the correct decisions in fairness

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Only going by the frame that we were shown. They might not have been the correct frames it should have been frozen on.

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Oh yes. There is a lot of error.

          Choice of frame, position of line, intersection of vertical and horizontal line.

          There should be a minimum tolerance for offside to be given.

          Nevertheless, today the calls were correct.

    3. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      But they were both the correct decisions.

      1. Marvin Moon
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        They were not. If you are level then you're onside. And before you ask Liverpool have had stupid VAR decisions go in their favour too.

      2. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        They were both decided by what frame the VAR team decided to use. Its impossible to pick the exact frame where the player makes the pass, so in the end its an arbitrary decision that decides whether its called as onside or offside. Another frame chosen for both decisions and they could have gone the other way.

        1. Marvin Moon
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          This exactly. Also the lines aren't done by laser. It's just some guy with his mouse guessing.

    4. Pumpkinhead
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      There was a player on the ground on the line. Salah was 2-3 feet onside.

      1. Regin
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        But he was a millimeter ahead of gk and other defender.

        1. Pumpkinhead
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Guess he was still onside and the goal stands

      2. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        The keeper was way out though. So consider that guy on the ground as the keeper.

      3. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Imagine commenting when you dont even know the offside rules

        1. Pumpkinhead
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Imagine being a crusty boomer who just comments nonsense

      4. Origi-nal
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Do you understand the rule?

        1. Pumpkinhead
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yup

        2. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          No, he thinks the keeper doesnt count

          1. Pumpkinhead
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            You soooooo mad lol

    5. Regin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Yup. Salah looked more offside if at all.

    6. Sailboats
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      F VAR

    7. Dr. Agabuse
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      What about Sterling disallowed two weeks ago? I celebrated this like a goal

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I had Sterling (C) for that game.

    8. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      VAR seems to be bad news for the jammy lucky casuals this season. Lots doing a lot worse than they usually would. It’s been great news for professionals

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Just look at where the guy who topped the FPL HoF is this season...

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          You’re better than thinking FPL is a game of skill come on

          1. Pumpkinhead
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            He's not though

    9. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      What about Vardy or Auba's penalty retake? Nevermind, I understand your anger.

    10. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      As a Salah captainer, I must guiltily admit I did a lol @ this

  2. Railwayman
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Origi's vision and passing should be 99 on FIFA 😀

  3. The Mandalorian
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    My girlfriends cousins friend just bought Salah, shhhh

    1. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      My wife's boyfriend has him triple captained, what a cool guy!

      1. Regin
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Lol. Wife's boyfriend. Hope it's a joke

        1. Forza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          I thought she was joking until he moved in, now I sleep at the foot of the bed... but it's warmer down there 🙂

          1. All Hail K
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            If he passes on his tips to you he's a keeper!

      2. The Mandalorian
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Your wife sounds like a keeper

  4. Atimis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Feel like 90% of you here even not watching the game

    1. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Just replying to posts from Bemba

    2. Greasy Grealish Gang
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I feel like a lot of people aren't watching games in general, lol

      1. tisza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        This 🙂

  5. WrightnBright
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Ditching Salah before Watford definitely not my finest hour!

    1. Dr. Agabuse
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Fair play to good humor

  6. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Was on a 1k green arrow, with no captaincy, before that Salah goal.

    20k down for now, damn!

  7. Dr. Agabuse
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Buy Salah fast

    1. Dr. Agabuse
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Hes risin

  8. Maddi Son
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    44 points from 3 players crew, checking in.

    1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      feels good

    2. Pinturicchio10
        4 years, 4 months ago

        o/

      • xuwei
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        45

      • Greasy Grealish Gang
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        This is our time boys

    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Any chance Salah gets max baps?

      1. FISSH
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        He will get them

      2. The Ejiptian King
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Looks like it.

    4. FISSH
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Now I have to pray vardy blanks and he's in my team.

    5. The Mandalorian
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Pool 3 CS in a row

    6. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Salah cappers i know the feeling. You think you’ve smashed your captaincy choice by betting against Vardy. Now wait for his hat trick and assist.

      1. Pumpkinhead
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Salah would then have more points than Vardy and owning both, I'm perfectly happy with that.

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          He would have 20 salah would have 16

      2. jason_ni
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I went salah last week over vardy, was underwhelming in the end, especially with all the mane vc jam.

        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Same. Maverick last week, played it safe this time

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Yep. Professionals never seem to win this season.

        2. tisza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Same

      3. The Ejiptian King
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        lol, yeah that was me too, on Vardy this though, Sterling to Salah(-4) looking so good last week, my best move for ages.

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah that’s a season changing one nicely done mate xx

          1. The Ejiptian King
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Thanks mate, I should probably shelve plans to get rid of him now though.

    7. jason_ni
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      140k jump after that.. whoop whoop.. will take it!

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Why wouldn’t you?

        1. jason_ni
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Been a tough season for sure.. another 200k places to go!!

        2. Simon69
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Lolllllll humble brag fail

          1. jason_ni
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            What's the fail? Not a brag.. i post when I have crap game week scores

        3. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          😀

      2. alfast1c
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        how can u see that right away ?

        1. jason_ni
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Google live fpl, and you'll get it, just put in your team id.
          It does normally go down after the 3pms games due to the traffic.

    8. Woy_is_back
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Getting Salah after the blank. Mane bye bye

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Then salah will regress

        1. jason_ni
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Have both...

      2. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        just get both

    9. Kaneyonero
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Captain fail (Mane)

    10. Rolls-Royce
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Salah(c) + Trent + Mane

      😎

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Blank incoming

      2. Pumpkinhead
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        GW18 says Hi

      3. Forza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        137k to 35k for me, what a triple up 😎

        1. 4-4-who?
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          No. It's 2:30 on Saturday and you've had three players play.

          1. Woy_is_back
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Exactly, what a noob

            1. Forza
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Top 1k last season, very nooby indeed!

              1. Woy_is_back
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Not impressed. I havent got that high but always aim at number 1. Rest of the positions are for losers.

                1. Forza
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  Agreed, I was in the top 60 last season and took some crazy risks to catch #1 (triple captain Origi, etc)

                  1. Woy_is_back
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    I respect that. Never settle for less than no.1 🙂

                    1. Forza
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Agreed, good luck to you!

          2. Forza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Still a great start. Obviously I'm talking about the live rank.

            1. jason_ni
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Regardless of the games to play, if you have a super start after the 1st game, it's good news, ignore the haters!!

              1. Forza
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

        2. Woy_is_back
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Is the gw over "facepalm"

          1. Forza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Is 48 from 3 a good start? *facepalm*

            1. Forza
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              44 from 3 *double facepalm*

        3. Rolls-Royce
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Might sneak inside top 1m finally 🙂

      4. Dr. Agabuse
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Congrats

      5. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Good luck next week

        1. Rolls-Royce
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Two FT. 😎

    11. Miniboss
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Are my eyes deceiving me, or is that a clean sheet for Pool?

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Back to back

    12. Pompel
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Long term, Salah vs Mane still a wash given almost same price, or time to switch - or double up?

      1. Dr Van Nostrand
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I'll likely double up in Jan. Good form and a double GW for them

        1. Pompel
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Probably better wait with doubling up, yeah

    13. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Salah as striker seems far better than Mane. I am now considering the swtich. Mane to Salah so might move out Mane for the blank GW

      1. Pumpkinhead
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        When was Salah playing any other position than his usual one?

      2. Regin
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Klopp will revert to 4-3-3. Probably experimented against already a relegated team

        1. OverTinker
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          yes thats more likely

      3. jason_ni
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Mane a mm from a goal, and an Origi strike from an extra assist.
        They are both super options, just dont miss that mane is still great!

    14. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Mane to Salah tonight to get ahead of the curve?

      1. KINGS
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Already behind curve dude

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        What curve? It was watford

      3. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Why would you bring Salah in tonight ? Pool don't have a game next week.

    15. Monkey Hanger
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Out the cup already.

      Ghost team. only made 3 transfers.

      Salah cap, and double Pool defence.

      1. Will Kane
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Ha! Exactly the same here! I'm in trouble, hoping for Vardy to rescue me yet again.

    16. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Luckiest double cs ever 😎

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        BB doing good?

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          None of my bench have played yet

          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Indeed. Same here

    17. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Mane, robbo who?

      Salah TAA since GW1

      1. Regin
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        What is ur OR?

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          190k ++

          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Sorry 100k++

    18. sunzip14
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      It turns out the trick wasn't TAA+Robbo combo but TAA>Robbo and back every week since past 7-8 GWs.

    19. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Next week is already a bore fest with no Liverpool matches

      1. Simon69
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        If you support Liverpool.... I suppose....

    20. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      VVD and TAA paying off

    21. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Today TAA and Mo next time Mane and Robbo.

      1. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Now say that without crying 😉

        1. Pumpkinhead
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          lol

    22. Muchentuchel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Can somebody tell me why they used VAR for the 2nd goal?
      I still don't get this. Did I miss something? Completely confused...

      1. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Rival of Ref owned Salah

      2. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        To check if it was offside. There needs to be 2 opposing players to be behind the ball. The keeper was way out and it's normally him we forget about.

      3. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        He was nearly offside.

        1. Muchentuchel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          wasn't Cathcart on the ground?

    23. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      More players have transferred Salah in so far this GW (1047) , than transferred him out (827). Don't they know Pool don't have a game in GW18.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        He’ll pice rise this week for sure with no game in GW18 FFS

        1. bitm2007
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Madness. I was hoping to sell him tonight, then get him back at a lower price for GW19.

    24. Fudgy
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Salah first goal , handball in build up.... Typical