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Dugout Discussion December 28

Vardy absent as Alli overcomes injury fears for Spurs

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Jamie Vardy (£10.1m) is one of nine changes made by Leicester manager Brendan Rodgers for Gameweek 20.

Kasper Schmeichel (£5.4m) and Jonny Evans (£5.2m) are the only players to survive from the Liverpool match with all other starts from Gameweek 19 missing out.

Çaglar Söyüncü (£5.1m), Ben Chilwell (£5.7m), Youri Tielemans (£6.4m), James Maddison (£7.7m) and Harvey Barnes (£5.9m) are all on the bench while Vardy is absence from the match-day squad entirely.

The centre-forward misses out on the trip to West Ham because his wife Rebekah gave birth and he is spending time with them.

“Jamie Vardy’s wife had a child today, so he’s with her and congratulations to them.” – Brendan Rodgers

Not only will West Ham be boosted by facing a second-string Leicester side, but they also have encouraging news of their own as Lukasz Fabianski (£4.9m) returns in goal for the first time since Gameweek 7.

They themselves have rotated to some extent with Michail Antonio (£6.9m) and Mark Noble (£5.0m) benched in favour of Carlos Sánchez (£4.3m), and Manuel Lanzini (£6.2m).

Meanwhile, there are similar frustrations for Fantasy managers at Carrow Road where Dele Alli (£8.9m) starts for Spurs with Lucas Moura (£7.1m) named on the bench.

The Englishman was considered a doubt for Gameweek 20, triggering a slew of sales, but he has overcome his fitness concerns to start.

Furthermore, Moura was the target for some of those selling Alli and it turns out that it is him who will have to feature as a substitute instead.

Norwich have benched Todd Cantwell (£4.8m) but Teemu Pukki (£6.6m) starts up-front.

Norwich City XI: Krul; Lewis, Zimmermann, Hanley, Aarons; Tettey, Vrancic; Hernandez, Stiepermann, Buendia; Pukki.

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Gazzaniga; Sessegnon, Vertonghen, Foyth, Alderweireld, Aurier; Eriksen, Ndombele, Alli, Lo Celso; Kane.

West Ham United XI: Fabianski; Masuaku; Balbuena, Diop, Fredericks; C Sánchez, Rice; Anderson, Fornals, Lanzini; Haller.

Leicester City XI: Schmeichel; Fuchs, Evans, Morgan, Justin; Mendy, Choudhury; Pérez, Albrighton, D Gray; Iheanacho.

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  1. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Goal disallowed cause Pukki came back from a offside position but was onside when the ball was played. Oh dear! Going to be some red faces in the VAR control room.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      very worrying they don't know the rules

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    2. S.Kuqi
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      That can't be the reason?

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Seems so. Very disturbing if they don’t know the rules.

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      2. Yank Revolution
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        It isnt. The VAR guy telling announcers that has the reason wrong.

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      3. jason_ni
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Yes, this is what var headquarters passed onto sky.

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  2. Monkey Hanger
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Spuds playing absolute crap.

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    1. Magic Zico
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      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Last match as well ... was not comfortable vs 2nd tier Bri ...

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  3. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Mourinho going to scream at this team at HT this has been pathetic

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    1. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'm worried that I actually am Jose, said he wouldn't play Rose, said Eriksen wouldn't play last GW, said Alli would start today.

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  4. BNMC
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Perez assist... he's so GW1

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  5. Vlad Tepes
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Is Grealish suspended for next game?

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    1. S.Kuqi
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Nope. Needs antoher 5yc

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    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Nah

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  6. Abraham & Cheese
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    There have been a lot of VAR decisions that really did not take a margin of error into the final decision on offside. I think it would improve greatly if you introduced a margin of error to take account for the period of time where the assist from the assisting teammate really began.

    This could be translated into a margin of error that is acceptable for an onside call that looks offside in one single frame.

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  7. DAZZ
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Kane being pushed forward from CDM to CM

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    1. Abraham & Cheese
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      LOL 😀

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  8. CloudSky
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Any chance for a Trent 20+ pointer again? Might be the only chance of getting some points.

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    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Would be peachy. Need him, Mane, Jim, Kev(c), Tony, Rash, Pope, Lundstram to save my 1pt GW so far

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  9. Parm
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Heard that Daniel is on his way to Stockley Park to dispute the Pukki offside decision.

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    1. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      BBC News: 'deranged man climbs Stockley Park rafters while ranting about "baps"'

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  10. have you seen cyan
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    whoever is making these decisions, it needs to be shown. They need to be held to account. They just hiding in a room anon, who even are the VAR officials? Refs?
    VAR room needs a cam

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    1. the Penman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      It has one. Their names are displayed before the match with the rest of the assistant refs. Chill.

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      1. the Penman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        But I’ll give you that they should mic up the ref and VAR conversations for the stadium and TV coverage.

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    2. Abraham & Cheese
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Really good point. And a mic as well to explain the exact rules that are being checked and the methods use to test them.

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      1. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        doesnt La Liga have VAR room cam? I think it does?

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        1. Abraham & Cheese
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          I don't know, I'll have to check it out. I'd imagine it helps us understand - do you prefer it?

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    3. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I thought you said "whoever is making these decisions, needs to be shot"

      And I still agree

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      1. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        mm, yea I have to show restraint here

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    4. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      they are hiding away in a dark room, if their faces were shown they wouldnt make these calls. Their names may be shown but they have no accountability like a ref does

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      1. FC Hakkebøf
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        On the contrary, they are being held liable. Just like the ref is. But the fans are not the judge and jury. Visibility changes absolutely nothing

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  11. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    What a buy Ings has been btw. Non stop goals since I got him in

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    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Dw I'll bring him in for Rashford this week I think, the goals will stop then

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    2. Nightcrawler
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      U must have got him in this gw then

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      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I got him 6 weeks ago, for the price, hes been excellent

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    3. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Has been so lucky, but biggest regret of my season, and there’s a lot of them

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    4. Queens of the South Age
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah, got him GW14 and been a great buy.

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    5. Regin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Same for me. I bought him in also some 6 weeks ago as a short term punt but now gonna keep him.

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  12. The Mighty Hippo
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    I'm thinking of doing Winston Reid to Grant Hanley. Is this the most boring transfer ever?!

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  13. Tasty Jerk
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Lol at West Ham. What a shambles of a team.

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  14. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    😆 @ the line being drawn and shown quickly on the screen. That line in the screenshot was manipulated 😆

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  15. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Genuinely what is the beef with the offside decision? It showed him being offside because a part of the body he can score with was ahead of any part of the body the defender could defend with. Is the point of contention when the ball is deemed to have been kicked? Because other than that I don't get it, his shoulder was ahead of alderweirelds knee

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      1. Yank Revolution
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I dont understand it either...combo of saltiness, plus hating new things, plus bias.

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        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Seems like it's just a bunch of cry babies and grand conspiracy theories

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            1. Yank Revolution
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              That too!!

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        2. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          It’s the closest decision I’ve ever seen

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          1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            But tbh, it’s just because of it being so new. Never before would that be offside, but fans need to get used to it

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        3. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          They have women on the panel now so it's all getting rather confusing for everybody.

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        4. jason_ni
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Firstly, the part of the body you are talking about, and the lines have been determined by a human, so prone to error and mistake.
          2nd, var passed the reason to sky is that he was coming back from an offside position, which makes no sense and is wrong. He came back from offside, back on side.

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          1. jason_ni
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            I have no norwich or spurs, there is no fpl bias here either, var is not cut and dry like goal line tech, that has no human intervention, and it's right or wrong.
            Var the lines, the moment the pass is made, is subjective, and can and has been wrong.

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            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                4 years, 4 months ago

                The moment the pass has
                been made is the only thing I can agree with, but they don't even really focus on that so all people here are really complaining about is just conjecture and conspiracies

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            2. @persecuted_by_mods
                4 years, 4 months ago

                1)Yes, a human using a computer, why do you think it's wrong?

                2) big whoop someone worded something wrong, they obviously didn't measure the offside from his original offside, they measured his second run and that was deemed to be offside so this is a non point really

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                1. jason_ni
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  You dont seem to understand, the frame is stopped and decided by a human, the line is decided by a human, it's not infallible software that cant be wrong.
                  It's a human decision, people go on as though, oh var says offside, so therefore it has to be correct decision.
                  It doesn't.

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                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      That's literally what I've just said so why are you trying to patronise me? I'm not saying it's 100% right, but it's the closest we can get right now so what's the point going crazy about it. I'm sure they pause it as instantly as they possibly can when the ball is kicked, and they put the line on the furthest part of both players bodies

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                      1. jason_ni
                        • 8 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        I'm not trying to patronise, just putting my point out as to why I dont believe that var can be relied upon.
                        It should be used for clear foul play, no issue of that, if the ref misses something, or mistaken identity.
                        Or a clear error for an offside, where it's obvious, with those such as pukki tonight, its subjective on the line, and a cm makes him offside or onside.
                        Of course it's hard to enforce that.

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                        1. @persecuted_by_mods
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            The main problem for me is they don't just come out and give a standardised view of where they'll take measurements from, so it's at least consistent for all the decisions. In this case the armpit was down the middle of his armpit, whereas alderweirelds knees "line" was taken alongside his knee so yes I agree it's not 100, it's not factual offside but it's as good as we're gonna get I don't understand the conspiracies or people saying it's clear onside

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                            1. jason_ni
                              • 8 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              Give it 10 years and we'll have lovely Gillette adverts in place during the var breaks!!

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                              1. jason_ni
                                • 8 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                Nfl style

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                    • Abraham & Cheese
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      1) Read my answer below. There is a whole field of studies and millions of articles on this question, called "Human Factors". It concerns the issues, validity, effectiveness and efficiency of human use with systems/computers/machines.

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                2. Abraham & Cheese
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  Yep exactly. The single frame guess for when the assisting team mate actually passed, is probably better expressed as a range of time points (earliest possible pass point, latest possible pass point).

                  That margin of error could be translated into some form of allowance for acceptable onsides.

                  That being said, I don't know how the VAR determine the exact time the assist was given. Perhaps they already regulate that somehow.

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                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Well that's just the best they can do, it'll have the teeniest margin of error but I guess that's just the new rule. People asking for daylight or these close decisions to go to the striker don't understand that that scenario can just go on forever, what if you allow daylight and then it's daylight + 0.1cm? Allow that too? Offside is offside

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                      1. Abraham & Cheese
                        • 5 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        Yeah agreed - we can't expect it to be perfect in its first year of application. It would also help a lot if we could hear the VAR people explaining which rules they are checking and how they are being checked.

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                        1. @persecuted_by_mods
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Totally agreed, they need some standardised rules of where they'll take measurements from and freeze frames from in terms of the pass but there's no conspiracy here

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                  2. BNMC
                    • 4 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    I'm on 22 points and somehow that's a green arrow of 200k places. FPL is a weird game sometimes.

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                    1. Tsparkes10
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      I'm on 4 lol.

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                    2. dansmusen
                      • 6 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Pool/City/United players left and all those Liecester players rested. 22 is a haul at the moment

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                    3. ThisTimeNxtYrRodney
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Well done fella, some of us might be looking at that as a score for the week.

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                    4. XabiAlonso
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      I'm on 7

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                    5. The Mighty Hippo
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      I thought I was doing pretty well with 8.

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                  3. Kszaq
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    About VAR - the most crucial part of our body for balance etc is celiac plexus (stomach more or less). Players should have kinda of chips in their pans (as with goal line) and this would end this shambolic var decisions. You do not score with your 1mm off side elbow, to score you need right balance which is around middle of body.

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                    1. Nightcrawler
                      • 4 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Worst post of the GW

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                    2. rick ding whoop
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      agree. would be similar to goal line technology.

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                      1. Baps hunter
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                        • 6 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        Similar system in boots foor example would be safe. This is football after all.

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                    3. Baps hunter
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 6 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      This is absolutely correct imho.

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                  4. Tsparkes10
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    VAR is shocking. I'll always love football but it's taking so much away from the game and even this in a sense.

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                  5. Dr Dream
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    For many years football fans have sung “You don’t know what you’re doing...”....turns out they were right.

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                  6. how now brown cow
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    It is a clear red line blue line thing as all the other tight VARs.

                    I dont like it, but there you go.

                    Why specific whingeing here?

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                    1. Yank Revolution
                      • 12 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Look up

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                    2. Baps hunter
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 6 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      He came away from offside to start with.

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                      1. jason_ni
                        • 8 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        It doesnt matter where he was, he was onside when the ball was played, otherwise all.players are coming back from offside!
                        At what point are you back onside?

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                  7. Bubz
                    • 10 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    How are West Ham losing at home to this lot. Literally a reserve team

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                    1. El Matador
                      • 10 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Good timing

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                    2. dark91
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Well done

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                  8. Gudjohnsen
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Jose will sub Alli off at ht

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                    1. FPL Daniel
                      • 14 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      How do you know?

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                  9. Niho992
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Now bring Madders Rodgers !

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                  10. Debauchy
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    WTFornals..

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                  11. BNMC
                    • 4 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Pablo Fornals!! Is that his first WHU goal?

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                    1. dark91
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      In the League yes but he scored in the cup if I remember well

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                  12. SB007
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    1-0 Leicester.

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                    1. SB007
                      • 6 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Correction. 1-1

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                  13. FPL Daniel
                    • 14 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    1:1. Maddison might still come in

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                  14. Duke Silver ☑
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Moura on for Sess at half time surely?

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                  15. SB007
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Kane and Ali no show.

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                    1. El-Kloppico
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      no feed from MID

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                    2. Queens of the South Age
                      • 6 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Keep it that way please. Sold Alli for pogba last week and Kane for Aguero this week.

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                  16. Sailboats
                    • 8 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Really need Maddison to come on

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