Scout Notes

Salah delivers timely away haul in Double Gameweek of contrasting fortunes

West Ham United 0-2 Liverpool

  • Goals: Mohamed Salah (£12.5m), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.2m)
  • Assists: Divock Origi (£5.2m), Salah
  • Bonus: Salah x3, Oxlade-Chamberlain x2, Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.6m) x1

Liverpool rounded off a predictably successful Double Gameweek 24 with a win over West Ham United on Wednesday night, a result that sent the Reds 19 points clear at the top of the Premier League.

Victories over Wolves and the Hammers added up to a fairly productive Gameweek for most of Liverpool’s Fantasy assets, too.

Of the 12 players who Jurgen Klopp used in his starting XIs at Molineux and the London Stadium, ten of them avoided a blank in at least one of the fixtures.

The exceptions were Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.4m) and, of course, Sadio Mane (£12.3m).

The injured Senegalese winger missed out on this latest success over David Moyes’ side and his sum contribution to the Double Gameweek 24 effort was a miserable one point, to the chagrin of his many owners and especially those who used the Triple Captain chip on him.

Mohamed Salah‘s (£12.5m) Gameweek 24 total of 16 points would have further rubbed salt into the wounds, such was the coin-toss nature of the captaincy decision for many FPL managers ahead of last Tuesday’s deadline.

The usual retrospective narratives will be applied in some quarters (Salah had the advantage of being on penalties, which gave him the edge etc) but it’s hard to legislate for a muscle strain picked up by Mane after half an hour in Wolverhampton, particularly as he had previously avoided any sort of meaningful injury in the whole of 2019/20.

Who knows what damage he could have inflicted on a limited West Ham side had he been fit enough to feature? And who could have predicted Salah would bank his highest FPL score in an away fixture since December 2018 in the same Gameweek?

We may not see Mane before the February winter break, with Klopp having said on Tuesday that the Senegal international would “probably not” play against Southampton in Gameweek 25.

There was no further comment from the Liverpool boss in his post-match press conference, unfortunately, with Klopp’s only injury update concerning Divock Origi (£5.2m), who limped off after 68 minutes in east London.

Klopp said:

Always when a player has to come off it’s a concern, especially when you play again three days later. But he told me it was cramps and let’s hope that it is like this and he should be ready again.

The win over West Ham was another exercise in patience for Liverpool fans and Fantasy managers alike, with the Reds encountering yet another team who were content on sitting back and soaking up pressure from Klopp’s side.

The Hammers, again operating with a five-man defence, largely did a satisfactory job for the first half an hour and Salah’s 34th-minute penalty was the visitors’ first shot on target.

Up until that point, Liverpool had got most of their joy when targeting teenage debutant Jeremy Ngakia (£4.0m) down West Ham’s right flank: Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) couldn’t quite finish off a Salah pass with the angle narrowing and soon after whipped an inviting ball across the six-yard box having again got behind the young right-back.

The breakthrough came when Issa Diop (£4.4m) clumsily felled Origi close to goal, allowing Salah the opportunity to score what was only his second away league goal on the season.

Liverpool’s deadlock-breaking strike forced West Ham out a little more and that played into the league leaders’ hands shortly after the interval, with Salah feeding Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.2m) to score the Reds’ second on the break.

There could have been further returns for the Egyptian in the final 20 minutes, with Salah nodding a Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.6m) cross wide and then smashing the post with a curling effort from just outside the box.

After the injury concerns of autumn 2019, Salah looks back to his old self: energetic, dangerous and reassuringly profligate.

Roberto Firmino (£9.6m) couldn’t add to his goal at Molineux but came mightily close, forcing Lukasz Fabianski (£4.9m) into a superb low save just after half-time.

A superb piece of trickery on the West Ham byline went unrewarded a quarter of an hour later, with the Brazil international undermining his nimble footwork when slicing his shot well wide.

Liverpool’s defence recorded their seventh clean sheet in eight matches, meanwhile, although there were scares along the way.

Alisson (£6.1m) twice made smart stops from Declan Rice (£4.7m) in the second half, also thwarting a bobbling effort from Robert Snodgrass (£5.2m).

Manuel Lanzini‘s (£6.2m) scuffed attempt and Angelo Ogbonna‘s (£4.5m) off-target header ought to have tested the Liverpool shot-stopper, while Alexander-Arnold was inches away from ruining the visitors’ shut-out when crashing a clearance off his goalkeeper’s upright late on.

The luck that had arguably deserted the Reds’ backline in the first 15 Gameweeks of the season seems to be back, although Alisson and Joe Gomez’s (£5.2m) returns to the starting XI have also been huge factors in the increase in clean sheets.

Reflecting on a less-than-vintage display, Klopp said:

It was not a brilliant performance against a side which is insecure in the moment in the situation they are in. But for us on the other side, it makes it really difficult because a very important pattern in football is counter the counter. But for that the other team needs to have counters, and winning the ball back and then using the space. But we started pretty much each attack with a ball from a centre-half against nine or 10 or 11. 

I wish we would have done better but I take it like it is because if it would be easy to win this amount of games and have this number of points, so many other teams would have done it. It’s just really incredibly difficult.

The difficulty tonight was to get the rhythm, keep the rhythm and to stay concentrated. I think the biggest chances we gave them.

As we mentioned in our frisk of the Premier League fixture list, any Double Gameweek 24 punts on West Ham assets were surely short-term moves, given the unfavourable matches ahead.

Moyes’ troops look neither solid enough at the back nor sufficiently potent in attack to encourage investment at present, although the return of Fabianski is a huge positive and the influential Michail Antonio (£6.9m) may well have been spared this encounter in order to save him for the more winnable match against Brighton on Saturday.

Speaking ahead of the match, Moyes said of Antonio’s absence:

He’s still feeling his hamstring a little bit and obviously we need him back but we can’t take any more risks, so he misses out tonight.

The Hammers at least had a go at their visitors in the second half and had kept them at bay in the opening 30 minutes, with Moyes highlighting the positives in his post-match presser:

I thought the players did a good job defensively. Especially giving a debut to a young right-back as well. Look, we were playing against a really good team, we made opportunities, more in the second half and gave us some chances.

Overall pleased with the performance up against a tough team, we are a bit limited to what we can do as well so we made the most of what we could.

I think the players will feel that in lots of things tonight it was positive. Tactically organised, disciplined when they had to be and some of the defenders stood up to good challenges tonight. Organisational wise I thought they dealt well with things that Liverpool caused them.

Any thoughts that Ngakia could become a regular £4.0m starting defender were slightly dampened by Moyes, who said:

I wanted to give Zabaleta a breather, he’s played a lot of games and we need to look after him with the games coming up as well.

Moyes added that new signing Tomas Soucek would come into his thoughts for Gameweek 25, saying that the midfielder had “had a winter break so hopefully he is fresh and ready to go”.

West Ham United XI (5-4-1): Fabianski; Ngakia, Diop, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Masuaku; Noble, Rice, Snodgrass, Lanzini (Fornals 69′); Haller.

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson; Alexander-Arnold (Keita 78′), Van Dijk, Gomez, Robertson; Oxlade-Chamberlain (Jones 85′), Henderson, Wijnaldum; Firmino, Salah, Origi (Fabinho 69′).

Members Analysis

As part of our Members Articles Unlocked week, the analysis below – normally behind the paywall – is available for non-subscribers to read.

The average position maps above (West Ham left, Liverpool right) show just how advanced Robertson was in the visitors’ set-up, with the Scottish left-back (number 26) further forward than any of the Hammers’ starters.

Origi (number 27) took up Mane’s left-wing role, with both he and Salah (number 11) often pushing on in advance of the roaming Firmino (number 9).

Salah topped the table for goal attempts, with only Firmino able to match his seven penalty box touches on Wednesday.

The Egyptian racked up six shots against Wolves, too, taking his total to 11 in Gameweek 24 alone – although only one of those, his penalty against West Ham, was deemed a big chance.

Sebastien Haller (£7.0m) didn’t register a single goal attempt against Liverpool or Leicester, with his combined expected goal involvement (xGI) of 0.10 underlining just how starved of service he has been in Gameweek 24.

Salah’s cause on the Bonus Points System was helped no end by the fact that the two key passes he supplied led to big chances.

Alexander-Arnold chipped in with two key passes, as well, helping him to a bonus point: no FPL defender has more of those than the Liverpool right-back this season.

863 Comments Post a Comment
  1. how now brown cow
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    McCarthy
    TAA Robertson Lundstram
    Salah KDB Martial Grealish
    Ings Vardy Abraham

    Button Williams Holgate Dendonker

    1 ft but zero cash

    1 - is tammy -> jimenez the simple move?

    2 - should I play williams over anyone?

    1. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      1 - yes
      2 - no!

      1. Relaxing
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        seconded

  2. Danno - Emre Canada
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    The top of the world is doing well, I think hes on here isn't he? All chips intact as well. Must give another shout out to one of my best mates who has won the overall monthly league. I like to think I had a hand in it considering he only likes rugby. If TAA had been 3 mms right would have been a different story but just goes to show there is always something to play for and I can hold my head in shame that a rugby fan is now destroying me, why do I bother with, goals imminent, shots in the box, heat maps etc etc hahah

  3. bigbudgie
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Ryan
    TAA Lundstrum Soy Kelly Rico
    Salah Mane KDB Traore Dendonker Vardy Ings Greenwood
    1FT 1.2 ITB
    A) Dendonker > Fleck, play Greenwood or 4-4-2 - keep Mane
    B) Mane/Greenwood > Aguero/Fleck or JWP (-4)
    C) Mane/Greenwood > Auba/Redmond (-4)
    D) something else?

  4. Ibra
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    What do you think about Alisson? I want to double up Liverpool defence and I also have Gazza. I could do just Gazza -> Alisson. He is nailed and my other option is VVD mut I don’t think he will get much attacking returns

    1. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Waste of a Liverpool sot. Much prefer vvd

    2. beric
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Vvd will outscore allison handsomely imo

  5. Make United Great Again
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    McCarthy
    TAA(vc) Lundstram Soy
    Salah(C) KDB Martial Grealish
    Auba Greenwood Ings

    McGovern, Kelly, Mane, Simpson.

    Not happy with Martial & Greenwood...or Soy.

    A. Keep
    B. Martial > out for -4?

    1. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A. Not worth a hit to get rid when he has a home game coming up.

      1. Make United Great Again
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Erghh you’re right. Will be surprised if I get any attacking returns from the United lads.

  6. Me Spurs
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Best option over next few weeks?
    A: Cantwell
    B: fleck
    C: maximin

    1. how now brown cow
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      B lovely fixtures

    2. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      B - Fixtures

  7. Sj3451
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Would anyone do Aguero to Auba?

    Worried about rotation, especially with champs league focus.

    Or just do Maddy > Grealish

    1. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Expect him to start against spurs and West ham to be honest

  8. Gazwaz80
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Which one to start please?....

    1)Lunds
    2)Rico
    3)Sidebe
    4)Ings

    Many thanks....

    1. Lev Yashin
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Tricky. I went with Lund over Ings.

      That may yet change if Lund continues to be a starting doubt.

      1. Gazwaz80
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I know what you mean, will be a last minute thing, cheers.

  9. Lev Yashin
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Took a -4 (Mané + Vardy -> Salah + Auba)
    GTG?

    Ryan
    TAA, Lund, Kelly
    Salah, KdB, Maddison, Grealish, Traoré
    Auba, Jimenez

    Button, Ings, Soy, Rico

    1. BERGKOP
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      GTG. very nice

    2. NotsoSpursy
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Excellent team

    3. beric
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Nice team, risky moves inc benching danny

      1. Lev Yashin
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I know but who drops out?

        Traoré? Always a chance against MUN.
        Maddison? Tricky CHE fixture but my only route to possible LEI attacking returns

    4. EL_FENOMENO
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Did the same except i've got Bobby instead of Jimmy, but will downgrade in 1 or 2 weeks.

    5. EL_FENOMENO
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Benching Ings ? I'm afraid to do it

      1. Lev Yashin
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Me too.

        Still not decided on the Starting XI.

  10. HurriKane
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Case for Traore.

    Is Traore best Mane replacement?

    - He's been involved in 6 goals in last 7 pl starts.
    - Bargain price of 5.8m for an attacker playing in top 6 team
    - Free up loads of cash to upgrade a budget striker like DCL to Auba/Kun/Firmino
    - Fixture proof. Already got returns against city liv and tot
    - Other mid priced mids like Maddison Richarlison Martial Mount gone off the boil

    Thoughts are welcomed.

    1. HurriKane
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Only caveat is wolves limited squad playing in Europa league. Means squad freshness could be a concern

    2. beric
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Yep if you dont own adama hes the man. Great to watch too

  11. NotsoSpursy
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Pope (button)
    Soy, robo, TAA, Kelly, Lundi
    KDB, salah, richarl*, cantwell, Hayden
    Ings, vardy, Tammy*

    2FT

    A) vardy -> auba
    B) soy -> ?
    C) Tammy -> Jimmy
    D) WC (would rather not though)
    E) any tips

    1. NotsoSpursy
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Should I ship out Richarlson?

      1. The Overthinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I am planning to bring him in

  12. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    McCarthy Henderson
    TAA Robertson Lascelles Lund Taylor
    Salah KDB Richarlison Grealish Hayden
    Auba Jimenez Ings

    How's my WC looking? Only possible change I'm looking at is;

    Robertson to VVD
    Hayden to Fleck

    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I quite fancy hayden, and he doesnt blank. I prefer vvd to robbo though

    2. mikess
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Taylor?

      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Burnley LB

  13. ZeBestee
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Any chance Kun is rested against Spurs? Or unlikely?

    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Always a chance

  14. mikess
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Play Ings or Maupay?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Maupay

  15. Mackans
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    What should i do, considering blank GW 28? (2 fred transfers, 0.1ib)

    Henderson (McGovern)
    Trent Lundstram Söyüncü (Kelly) (Rico)
    Salah Mané KDB Grealish (Hayden)
    Vardy Ings DCL
    2 free transfers (0.1ib)

  16. DeathoftheParty
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Best midfielder up to £6.8m? Have Grealish and Cantwell. Many thanks

    1. EL_FENOMENO
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Adama, Perez

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Agreed. Not sure if Doucoure is still an option.

        1. DeathoftheParty
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Was thinkin Doucoure

      2. DeathoftheParty
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Ta

  17. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Who scores more this GW:

    A) Mahrez (tot)
    B) Grealish (bou)

    1. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Grealish is in some form

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Grealish

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Is it worth using a FT on Mahrez to Grealish given they both blank in 28? Should I save FT and replace Mahrez with someone who plays in 28?

      1. The Overthinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Wait for the doubles.

        If there's a double GW 25 /26then mahrez becomes a better pick

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Cheers - two players who were top of my wishlist, Auba and Grealish, seem like no goes given I have triple City and two Blades

  18. sandman58
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Best Mane replacement until after the break(next 2 gameweeks only)....have KDB Martial & Salah?????

  19. The Overthinker
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Choosing a midfielder below 9.4M is so difficult. So little options.

    Any inputs from the community?

    1. FCSB
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Traore

    2. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      These are the most fun players to choose imo

  20. linkafu
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Wildcard active, I'm actually here. Some advises?
    0 in the bank

    McCarthy, Button
    Lord Ward Robbo Lascelles Stephens
    Grealish DeBruyne Salah Perez Traore
    Auba Vardy Maupay

    Hesitation between Traore, Maupay or Hayden Ings

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Hayden Ings.

  21. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Ryan
    Lundstram TAA Holgate
    Salah Martial Mane* KDB
    Vardy Maupay Ings
    Button Kelly Soyuncu Dendo
    0.7m 1ft

    Suggestions lads? Best I got below but I'd prefer new insight...
    A. Soy/Kelly to Lascelles/SU def
    B. Mane Maupay to Traore Auba (-4)
    C. Mane Soy/Kel to Pool def and Traore/Grealish (-4)

  22. Rocky FPL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    A) Son, Jimenez
    B) Auba, Traore

    1. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A

    2. yosim
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      that's a close one, either could get a good return

  23. Whats the Huth
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    698 OR

    Still a way to go though

    1. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Woaah. Well done

      Certainly my dreaamm....

      How are you planning for the coming gws?

  24. Rbyrne95
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Not so much a 'Wild Risk' but have already doubled up Liverpool and Sheff Utd defence. Is it mad to consider triple Sheff def?

    Henderson, Lundstram, Baldock, TAA, Robertson in a 4-4-2?

    4.1 in bank, Can take out Greenwood for Jimenez or take out Sarr for someone

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      You will have a GW 28 problem.

      1. Cruyff's Eleven
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        That's 3 weeks away tho

    2. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Would love a triple up.

      Lundstram now in danger of getting a start, so maybe to consider other defenders

    3. Rbyrne95
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Gw 28 Issue?

  25. DAZZ
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Sheffield United sign Sander Berge, very bad news for Lundstram.

    1. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Lundstram was dropped?

      Time to replace the lord?

  26. Jayben23
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    chances of vardy playing this week?

    1. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      100

  27. Don Kloppeone
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    I was considering taking a -4 punt on DCL > Auba but looking into the stats I’ve convinced myself away from it. Anyone considering a similar move just bear in mind...

    Auba: bur NEW
    Av. pts last 6 GWs played = 4.5
    xG: 1.9
    Mins per xGI: 227
    Overall members stats: 31% +2 Key

    DCL: wat CRY
    Av. pts last 6 GWs played = 5.7
    xG: 4.0
    Mins per xGI: 127
    Overall members stats: 69% +9 Key

    That doesn’t scream take a hit to me!

    1. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Not for a hit but.

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Even without it’s not particularly convincing!

        1. The Overthinker
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          You can tell one thing that it was under ljungberg.

          With Arteta, arsenal look better unit

          1. Don Kloppeone
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            I will agree to that. However not sure it affects a player like Auba as much as, say, a central mid or defender.

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Not sure what those numbers are 😮

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I know expected stats need to be taken with a pinch of salt but regardless just compare the two and the business case is made!

  28. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    If you go for 2 premium defenders, who would you have as your other cheapies..

    Currently on; Lundstram, Lascelles and Charlie Taylor. Any other solid options?

    I'm on WC so would need to be season keepers

    1. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Word that lundstram is dropped/ his place is in danger.

      Would recommend other Sheffield United def

  29. NotsoSpursy
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    How do get in Aub? 0itb

    Pope (button)
    Soy, robo, TAA, Kelly, Lundi
    KDB, salah, richarl*, cantwell, Hayden
    Ings, vardy, Tammy*

  30. The Mighty Whites
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    1FT, 0.4 ITB -

    Guaita, Button

    TAA, Lundstram, Webster, Fernandez, Rico

    Salah, Mane, KdB, Grealish, Nakamba

    Vardy, Jimenez, Ings