Champions League

UEFA Champions League 2012/13 Preview

On Saturday we announced the UEFA Fantasy Champions League was up and running for the 2012/13 season and confirmed we would – once again – be tagging along for the ride with some Fantasy Football Scout coverage, lead by yours truly.

Those looking for some European action to distract from the domestic Fantasy campaign can get involved right now – our Scout league code is 191091-421065.

We’ve decided to somewhat scale back our input from last season but content will still be created ahead of every Matchday in line with how we directly approach the Sky Sports and Fantasy Premier League (FPL) games with the introduction of a ‘Champions League Focus’ article.

For anyone unfamiliar with the UEFA game and interested in joining us this season, we’ve dusted off our comprehensive breakdown of how it all works, the key differences in the rule set and a “brief” run-through of some select choices from our first glance at the player list.

Points Scoring

Well over two million Fantasy managers are more than accustomed to the FPL game and, luckily, having been forged by the same hands, this UEFA Fantasy Champions League offering bears a great deal of similarity – but for a few small differences. They are…

  • Earning a penalty for a foul in the box picks up 1 point irrespective of whether it is converted or not – as a result, there are no assists for penalties.
  • Converse to that fact, a player who concedes a penalty will score -1 for their infringement.
  • Every 5 recovered balls (completed clearances and tackles gaining possession) will add 1 point to a players tally.

Beyond the three mentioned points all the scoring is similar to FPL (with no PPI influenced bonus points here) but can be run through via this link if you need a refresher.

The third point is perhaps the most notable of all. This rule was introduced last season and memory recalls that this was often a solid source of added points if you managed to back the right man. Defenders, and chiefly centre-backs, seemed to be the most successful players at picking up these points last time round but that evidence is purely anecdotal.

Transfers

Fantasy managers accustomed to the one free transfer per week of FPL will feel they are in God’s playground when they look at the amount of chopping and changing they get to do across a season in this game. There is, of course, a level of attrition through the Champions League which means managers have to be able to transfer accordingly as sides get knocked out – but the powers that be give them plenty of room for manoeuvre.

A 13 Matchday season sees Fantasy managers granted two wildcards (one which must be played at the closure of the group stages) in addition to six free transfers to make at the end of each knockout round. Every other Matchday, most notably during the group stages, grants the standard one free transfer.

This concurrent run of single transfer allowances in the group stages means that the “open” wildcard is more often than not executed by the experienced European Fantasy managers during this time. There have normally been two schools of thought to this practice, to date.

The first sees Fantasy managers set up a side for the first couple (or even just one) Matchdays, fully expecting to change their squad in its entirety as they hop on and off all of the right bandwagons for the remainder of the Group stages. The other side of the coin sees Fantasy managers use their wildcard in Matchday six when many sides will have already guaranteed their place in the knock-out stages and begin to rotate squads accordingly – the perfect time to snap up that key differential.

It should also be noted that any superfluous trades made will only set you back two points – a much greater encouragement to take a punt in the transfer market in any given Matchday.

Team Management

Managing your squad is where the real key differences start to kick in.

Fantasy managers get a lot more chances to be active in the Champions League game, as a squad game takes effect with the introduction of “Managers Substitutions” – man management and pushing the deadlines are an added perk for those willing to be hands-on.

Each Matchday – bar the final in Wembley next May – will be spread across more than one day. What this means for Fantasy managers is that you can field all your players who play on a Tuesday and, if they under-perform, you can bring one of your squad with a game to play on Wednesday off the bench and gamble that their score will end up higher.

The same can be said for your captain’s armband – if your team leader fails to deliver the first time round, or if you just want to gamble that someone in your team the next day can do even better, the armband can also be moved to a player who has yet to take to the field, with the previous captain then no longer having double points to his name.

If any of your players pick up a red card, however, not only will their points deduction stick but they also can’t be replaced. You’ll want to be careful around the most hot-headed of players, then.

A prudent manager won’t be selecting bench-fillers in their squad as a result – they’ll need a full battery of 15 players they can call to arms as they rotate their players to maximum effect.

However, if a manager chooses to make use of any of the previously described Manager Substitutions then it must be noted that the auto-subs rule (where any players who do not make the field are automatically replaced by those from your bench) is negated and cannot come into effect. So the less hands-on Fantasy Managers can still get the usual assistance if one of their starting XI doesn’t end up playing.

Squad Selection

You pick a squad of 15, a captain will score double and, in the opening stages at least, you can only choose two players from any given side.

An old formation quirk from seasons gone by has also fallen by the wayside. The unrealistic but often heavily utilised 2-5-3 formation has disappeared, with European Fantasy managers now afforded eight standard tactical alternatives (ranging from 4-4-2 to 5-2-3) to set up their sides from.

Here follows a brief heads-up on just some likely names we’ll be keeping a close eye on in the tournament. We will look at a small handful of Matchday specific “Ones to Watch” ahead of each round of play; these are just the men who caught our eye in some way, shape or form on initial inspection. The pricing of many players this season definitely had us scratching our heads…

Defence
In goal the prices are so closely grouped together between the “better” sides in the Champions league that the choice really should come down to personal taste as much as anything. Personally, I am a fan of sticking on the cheaper side, however, so the players that really caught my eye were Helton of FC Porto and Salvatore Sirigu of PSG both at a mere 4.5, and Vyacheslav Malafeev from Zenit who comes in a spot cheaper at just 4.0.

The defenders see us skip entirely by the most premium options (dominated by the Barcelona back-line who do, in fairness, have a group that may be littered with clean sheets) and drop in a buck cheaper at 6.0 where the likes of Thomas Vermaelen and Nemanja Vidic offer points potential at both ends of the pitch.

Howeve, our favourite option by far has to be Arturo Vidal of Juventus, who is priced at a mere 5.5. Not only is he not a defender -you’ll generally find him in the centre of midfield alongside the likes of Andrea Pirlo- but he also takes penalties for the Italian champions. There’s potential for a lot of points in this man. Team-mate Stephan Lichsteiner can be found at wing-back and comes in at 4.5 as another very strong option.

The money pumped into PSG means they will be hoping for immediate success on the continental stage so the 5.0 price-tag afforded to centre-back Alex makes him a very interesting proposition. A whole host of full-backs (Patrice Evra, Rafael, Kieran Gibbs to name but a few) from the English sides come in at either 5.0 and 4.5 which could also prove to be an absolute steal as long-term investments.

Three of the Zenit St. Petersburg back-line (Nicolas Lombaerts, Tomas Hubocan and Domenico Criscito) also find themselves at 4.5 as well and could offer strong returns for relatively meagre expenditure.

We’ve not even got to the bargain basement options like Atsuto Uchida of Schalke (4.0), Swedish international Mikael Lustig (3.5) and the rest of the Celtic defence and a whole host of defenders from the lesser favoured sides – including reigning Ligue 1 champions Montpellier.

Midfield

Andres Iniesta is the only midfielder to be priced in double figures but it is Eden Hazard (9.0) and Santi Cazorla (8.0) who look like they are set to be favourites in this format – given their showstopping introductions to the Premier League, this is of little surprise.

Relatively soft draws for the likes of Bayern Munich and Manchester United also mean that making the right choices between the likes of Arjen Robben, Franck Ribery and Toni Kroos (still at just 6.5) and the United wingers of Ashley Young, Nani and Antonio Valencia could reap many rewards.

The mid-price ballpark is littered with players asterisked with the sign “could be good, could do nothing much at all”. Jakub Blaszczykowski (otherwise known as ‘Kuba’) at 7.0 is going to have to hold off Ivan Perisic and Kevin Grosskreutz for that spot alongside Marco Reus and Mario Gotze in the Dortmund offense but, if he does, he may provide some comparatively cheap sparkle. Andrea Pirlo costs the same and will inevitably dictate a lot of the play for Juventus – it’s just a matter of how much of that will translate into Fantasy points on any given weeknight.

Released from his shackles at Barcelona we could be set to see Ibrahim Afellay provide some real positivity in support of his Schalke strikeforce for just 6.5 while Younes Belhanda of Montpellier at an increment cheaper (6.0) will be vital if his side are to make any kind of impression on this tournament.

Then we get down to players costing 5.5 and there are a few surprisingly cheap candidates – most notably Roman Shirokov of Zenit St. Petersburg. He’ll be in a lot of teams when Matchday One kicks off. If Abou Diaby can shake off his recent muscle problem we’ve already seen what kind of impression he can leave.

They have arguably the toughest group of all teams but Ajax offer up some of the strongest fifth midfielder options ranging from captain Siem De Jong at 5.5 to old friend Ryan Babel at the bottom with a cost of just 4.0. Celtic offer similar options with Kris Commons and Joe Ledley both coming in at just 4.5 of your total allowance.

And, finally, my colleague Akers would not be pleased if I wasn’t to mention Renan Bressan at just 4.5 as another budget squad filler. The BATE Borisov midfielder always seem to get the points right when my fellow Scout contributor chooses him.

Attack
The attack is by far the most infuriating position this season. There is a bounty of players, such as Shinji Kagawa, Dimitri Payet, Juan Mata and Danny to name but a few, who European Fantasy managers would have strong hopes to be classified as midfielders but have, rather frustratingly, been shunted to the top of the park, where competition for the three forward places in your team is rife.

That competition is only compounded by the fact that most out there will struggle to not own Lionel Messi. The most expensive player in the game at 13.0 and a rite of passage for any manager out there, the Barcelona man is currently owned by over 70%. Throw Cristiano Ronaldo (also 13.0) into the mix too and not only is the budget incredibly top heavy but it leaves just one place left to round out the squad if you back the La Liga based duo.

Sliding past a 12.0 Zlatan Ibrahimovic -who we rate, a lot, but just can’t see justifying the price- the 11.0 options give Fantasy Managers a bit more choice for those unable to splash out ranging from Robin Van Persie to Karim Benzema.

Considering he is nigh on the only striker Chelsea can rely on, Fernando Torres at 9.5 looks a hard one to resist, priced alongside strong contenders from the Bundesliga in Klaas-Jan Huntelaar of Schalke and Robert Lewandowski of Borussia Dortmund.

Juventus are readjusting to being a Champions League outfit but the 8.5 needed to gain the wares of Mirko Vucinic seems more than fair. The same price-tag looks reasonable for Giampaolo Pazzini at an AC Milan side very much in transition right now – with Anderlecht and Malaga in their group they should still be able to forge goals from this new side. With Mario Gomez expected to be sidelined for several weeks after ankle surgery last month, Mario Mandzukic will profit for the same value in a side destined to score goals.

Aleksandr Kerzhakov of Zenit could be a valuable acquisition for European Fantasy managers now his side have added the likes of Axel Witsel and Hulk (himself a 9.0 favourite) to the fray for the upcoming campaign. Lille’s first season in the Champions League last year, meanwhile, was not much of a success but, with a bit of experience under their belt, the cheap option from Nolan Roux could round out strike-forces nicely.

Finally, if you fancy a Premier League flashback, there’s always a mid-price punt available on Johan Elmander, John Utaka or Milan Baros for just 6.0 of your budget.

For any further advice the Champions League’s themselves seem set to tout their own new triumvirate of tipsters who may offer a helping hand as the season roll on. Keep your eyes peeled for our first “Champions League Focus” ahead of tournament kick-off next Tuesday afternoon.

Andy Leicester won the Premier League. Leicester. Premier League. What is this life? Follow them on Twitter

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  1. mikess
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    11 years, 7 months ago

    Mandzukic & Lucho

    or

    Martinez & Robben
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    £15m budget

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    1. LeSagna
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      B. The selfishness of Robben wins it for me

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    2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      A

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    3. Beavis
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      A by an absolute mile. Martinez is not Fantasy material.

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      1. mikess
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        Porto no.9 i mean

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        1. King Nil Miss ✩
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          Could be a good punt but not proven yet.. so Lucho is the safe choice.

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        2. Beavis
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          Oh I see. Would still go with A though, have both of those in my latest draft.

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    4. Paul Psychic Octopus
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      Robben out of favour at Bayern at the mo, not starting

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  2. King Nil Miss ✩
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    Mandy & Lucho

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    1. King Nil Miss ✩
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      *Mikess reply fail

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    2. mikess
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      cheers, got cover for all the main teams bar porto so trying to squeeze one in

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  3. Manani
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    is there a fantasy world cup qualifier? 😆

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Yes but it's pure fantasy

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    2. King Nil Miss ✩
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      Actually there is...

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      1. Van Dal
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        link?

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  4. Captain Shirokov
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    Evening lads, just waiting for the Fifa 13 demo to download here. 🙂

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    1. The Light Knight
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      Want to download it for the PC (have no xbox/ps3) but apparently it's over 2GBs in size and my bandwidth is 10

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      1. The Light Knight
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        *Limit=10GB... or does bandwidth mean the same?

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        1. 4vets
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          10gb limit? That is harsh in this day and age 🙁

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      2. Captain Shirokov
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        1.54 GBs on the Xbox.

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        1. The Light Knight
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          Mmmm... so tempting 😥

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    2. LeSagna
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      Yeah they've steadily grown bigger over the years.. I'd love to hear how it is (worth the upgrade). Though who am I kidding, everyone's gonna have it so I will too, if only for the squad updates (no more RVP 🙁

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      1. 4vets
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        Arse fan? Love your user name 🙂

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        1. LeSagna
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          Hehe. Yup. Sagna better not leave to. My fav remaining player (even more so than Cesc and RVP were though they were close behind.

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  5. wheato
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    ** First post klaxon **

    Struggling to get me an avatar - anyone fancy pointing me in the right direction?

    Cheers.

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      FAQ off below

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    3. blue cheese
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      http://www.gravatar.com
      Register using the same email address as the one you use to login on FFS.

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    4. King Nil Miss ✩
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      Hover the picture and follow the site... register with the same e-mail you use here!

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      1. wheato
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        Thanks - sorted it.

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  6. LeSagna
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    Also guys, I need a favour from all FFSers. 30-60s of your time will be greatly appreciated if you could fill out some mcq questions on a survey for me.

    Note - It is totally related to fantasy football, and who knows, may just turn into a source of entertainment (read: pain and fantasy heartache) for many of us in the future.

    http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/QH8XV7W

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    1. Scroobius Mac
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      Done, you don't happen to be aged 16-19 do you?

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      1. LeSagna
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        Thanks mate, much appreciated. Naa.. 24. How come?

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        1. Scroobius Mac
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          Running a survey of my own but need people of that age.

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          1. LeSagna
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            Send me the link, I'll pass it on to a couple ppl (though I'm getting old and the company I keep with it 🙁 )

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            1. Scroobius Mac
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              Here you go: goo.gl/G91yN

              Cheers!

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              1. LeSagna
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                Will pass it on mate. How much of a response have you had so far? (Hinting at shorter attention spans these days...)

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    2. Captain Shirokov
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      No prob 🙂

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    3. blue cheese
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      Done.

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    4. 4vets
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      Done.

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    5. Beavis
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      Done.

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    6. LeSagna
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      Thanks heaps to everyone. Don't want to sink months of time into a game (fun though it might be) if me and my friends are going to be the only ones playing it.

      Someone mentioned there's already draft style games like this around? Any specifics? I'm administering one for my friends right now using a spreadsheet but it's tedious and needs workarounds. The only one I've been able to find on the epl is this:

      http://www.fantasyleague.com/Pro/Default.aspx

      But it costs like 30 plus pounds lol - not paying that!

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    7. O Fenomeno
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      Done.

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    8. Reedy
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      Done too

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  7. DRIZ ✅
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    fifa 13 demo out at 10pm on ps3. fml

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    1. Captain Shirokov
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      😀

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    2. Piggs Boson
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      I was playing it at 9am this morning 😉

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  8. megatronaldinho
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    to martinunreal... from the previous page's litany of pun-related quotations ' punnery is the most exalted form of funnery' (me, now)

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Haha, I love it!

      P.s Get thee to a nunnery, I will have no skullduggery!

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  9. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    I know it's blasphemy but foregoing RVP actually leaves you with a lot of space to build a tasty fantasy team. Once some of these 9m+ strikers get into their groove you could have 3 of them every week. I like the look of it. It's not safe without RVP but it would be quite having high scoring strikers no-one has.

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      once rooney is back in contention then might take RVP out.

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    2. Kostja
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      I will find out this week, I did not get him now im regretting with Kags croked and Ba dropping in form. But my fortunes could change.

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      1. 4vets
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        Kostja, many thanx for your link tot he budget UCL players. I am still totally ignorant but it helps 🙂

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    3. Scroobius Mac
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      I only see RVP as essential while Rooney is out. But he is essential whilst everybody else from United is a rotation risk.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        Ye, it's definitely the time to have RVP no doubt. I can see there being a few RVP(c) fails down the road which will provide a lot of opportunity for those without to take advantage. Not saying there'll be many but it's possible if you go the no-RVP route.

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    4. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      quite nice*

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    5. In Like Flynn.
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      I'm not convinced RVP's next half dozen games offer that much. We can't rely on all managers to be as mindnumbingly stupid as Southampton's.

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      1. Evs
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        Flynn my friend....

        ' he scores when he wants.... '

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          I know the theory Evs. It's just that £13.4mil goes a very long way towards other quality players.
          I shall continue to tinker and decide on Saturday.

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          1. Evs
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            Fair enough.

            I was of the same thinking but after the Southampton game I thought enough, is enough. I know have him, as didn't want to be left in his wake 😯 !

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  10. Beavis
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    • 12 Years
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    Anyone want to give me their thoughts on this lot for UCL?

    Malafeev Beto
    Alba Boateng Rafael Arbeloa Alex
    Cazorla Lucho Giggs Shirokov Alan
    Messi Ronaldo Mandzukic

    Cheers.

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    1. Kostja
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      Could you explain why you picked Alan?

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      1. Kostja
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        good team otherwise

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      2. Beavis
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        Easy group, cheap and team captain. Should start and could get a goal/assist?

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        1. Kostja
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          Nice, had totally missed him. Solid pick

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    2. blue cheese
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      I can see nothing wrong tbh.

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    3. Beavis
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      Thanks guys.

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  11. Kostja
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    Kershakov scores for russia already.

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    1. blue cheese
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      Assist? 😉

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      1. Kostja
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        to himself as he scored a FK and he was fouled.

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  12. Muniains Tears
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    #offtopic

    What is the best foreign language to learn for someone that knows only English and an unimportant eastern European language?

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    1. Beavis
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      Spanish.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        I agree, Spanish is a useful language to learn, next to English it is the most spoken European language.

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        1. Kostja
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          it depends what you want to learn it for as Spanish is not too good if you looking to advance in the business world.

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            que?

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            1. 4vets
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              Spain has no business left 😉

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            2. Kostja
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              Spanish speaking countries are fairly poor and not really somewhere that business is booming, with the exeption of maybe Brazil

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              1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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                Brazilians speak Potuguese, and who cares about business, learning a language does not have to come with business opportunities.

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          2. O Fenomeno
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            +42 that is why I recommended Mandarin.

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    2. 4vets
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      How old are you? Probably some version of Chinese or Spanish.

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    3. Mr Blue
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      Swedish ofc 😀
      If not, I guess spanish would be a good option

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        Are you Swedish? I've met some Swedish people, nice folks. Is it true they speak English almost as much as Swedish? Any Swedish people I've met speak impeccable English. I almost would not have noticed they were Swedish at times.

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        1. Mr Blue
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          Yes I am.. 🙂
          I wouldnt say we speak almost as much english as swedish, but I reckon we are pretty good at english.. We learn it from 3rd grade (or so) and ofc all the tv, internet helps alot. Personally I know a lot of people that went to England at the age of 14-16 to study abroad for a summer (I went 5 weeks to Eastbourne).
          So yes, its kinda natural to us (tho I dont think my english is that great)

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          1. 4vets
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            Not that great? It's better than a lot of English people's....

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            1. Mr Blue
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              lol, ty.. I guess in my case its easier to read/write than talk, but then again.. I rarely speak english..
              🙂

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              1. 4vets
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                *there again 😉

                Sorry!

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                1. Mr Blue
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                  lol! ty! 😀

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          2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            Well the Swedish people I met spoke very eloquently, they were also quite charming. I met them in Spain oddly enough. Your English sounds good enough to me! 😉

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          3. Muniains Tears
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            I found swedish pretty neat, i listened to some KENT so i got to like the language but my problem is that - since most swedish people i met online speak english so good i never even thought they weren't natural speakers - why do i need to learn their language?

            It's probably due to the similarity of the languages that swedes are so good at english

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            1. Mr Blue
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              Yes, its pretty similiar grammar and stuff.. and since we start studying early in school it just comes natural.. and these days, all the online games and tv, movies, series helps alot..

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            2. Gaz Downright
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              that, as well as a lot of exposure to English, is why all Scandinavians master English from a very early age

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            3. Gaz Downright
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              only use I would see for Swedish were if you were going there to live for a long period of time (several years)

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        2. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Had a meeting today with a statuesque Danish blonde. Her English was w-a-y better than the majority of English people in our office. Somewhat humbling. Btw - I've also read that Spanish is an excellent, widely spoken, language to learn. Madarin will also be a very good one for the future.

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    4. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Spanish

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    5. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Chinese, Russian, french, spanish

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      1. Ramboros
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        +1

        You are Estonian, right?

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        1. Kostja
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          yes

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          1. Kostja
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            and actually not a russian speaking one despite what my name suggests 🙂

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          2. Ramboros
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            I really like Enar Jääger. Great player. Just had to say it.

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            1. Locarno
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              He was supposed to join us (Charlton), which I was looking forward to, but I don't know what happened to all that.

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    6. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Depends where you live and what other languages you may interact with or wish to interact with in the future.

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    7. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Spanish would be one that you could use in many different countries. I wish I knew another language apart from English.

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      1. 4vets
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Gibberish gets me by.

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      2. megatronaldinho
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Gaelic Irish is my first language. not that it's in any way more useful than some near-dead tribal language spoken by only two eighty-yearolds in papua new guinea

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Are you Irish?

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          1. megatronaldinho
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            indeed i am. connemara, galway. born and reared. booiiiiiiii

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              Really? My family has a place in Connemara, Ballyconeely to be precise. I used to go down there every summer growing up. still do from time to time. Whereabouts are you from in Connemara? you still live in Ireland?

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              1. megatronaldinho
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                aye back in the motherland. or ought that be hinterland? i live around 7 miles west of spiddal. half a mile from TG4 headquarters.

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                1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  Ah I see, I'm a Dub but I really love Connemara (not just saying this to impress) Where did you go away to?

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        2. Red20
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Your fluent in Irish?

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          1. megatronaldinho
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            tá mé.agus bhí ariamh. 😀

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              Rith mé dul go dtí an siopa as a wee lad.

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    8. megatronaldinho
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      it'll be mandarin once the new world order overthrows our occidental existence. but for now i guess spanish. as it ain't so difficult and gots widespread practical use.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I quite like mandarins, are you saying the future is orange?

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        1. Locarno
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I laughed till I stopped.

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            I'm glad you stopped by.

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        2. megatronaldinho
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          ain't it always been? unless you view the world though rose tinted glasses. actually if you amalgamated rose- tinted glasses and a sepia-tinged worldview, then yes. orange it is

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            This is why, as an optimist, I like walking around with a camera set to sepia sellotaped to my face so I can see this future.

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    9. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Chinese

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    10. O Fenomeno
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Mandarin would be great language to learn. Spanish is widely spoken language.

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    11. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Stumbled upon this on BBC news site recently, it's the most spoken languages in millions of people and by country:

      http://www.ethnologue.org.uk/ethno_docs/distribution.asp?by=size

      Chinese and Spanish look good bets.

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      1. Reedy
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Surprising that 30 different countries speak Armenian!

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        1. Muniains Tears
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Nice link, thanks!

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          1. Reedy
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            No probs! 🙂

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    12. LeSagna
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      From experience:

      To get girls: French
      Widely used: Spanish (close second in the getting girls dept)
      If you have interest in getting rich via trade: Chinese

      The last one also has the added benefit of eavesdropping on some ppl talking about you with them completely confident you have no idea - happened to an indian japanese mate of mine and he busted them. Quite funny.

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    13. Muniains Tears
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Just surprised - why didn't anybody mention German? It was somewhere high on my list but from what i heard it's pretty hard to learn 🙁

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      1. Mr Blue
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Germany is mostly spoken in Germany tho, and Austria but the accent is waaaay different.. I can understand some german, but when I went to Austria I didnt understand much at all..

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        1. Mr Blue
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          *German is..

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      2. Red20
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        German grammer is tricky enough but a lot of the vocab sounds like English.

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      3. Gaz Downright
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I speak German. Mostly useless imo. The German speaker's you will need to talk to, probably comprehends English well enough.

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    14. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      German. Its good for business

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        It's good for sounding angry when you're being perfectly courteous.

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    15. Gaz Downright
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'm a European speaking an Asian language fluently. There is no easy answer to this. Do you have any particular reasons you want to learn?

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    16. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I speak Spanish to God, Italian to women, French to men and German to my horse.
      - Charles V

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    17. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Welsh.

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    1. Locarno
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      If I was that last goalkeeper, I'd really enjoy earning my red card by nutting that smarmy pillock.

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  13. DRIZ ✅
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Ricky Hatton to come out of retirement. Oh dear.

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    1. Locarno
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Brilliant. I love watching the fat smackhead get beaten up.

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    2. O Fenomeno
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Get him to fight Flintoff 🙂

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Wife and thirty eight hangers on to support.

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  14. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Say what you want but Capello is already leading 2:0 after 20min and without Dzagoev. Clearly great manager. I wonder what he could have done with England on the EC.

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    1. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      You probably are mistakeing Israel for a good team

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Maybe but still

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        1. Kostja
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          England beat montenegro 5-0 last week, which was also not their best team out there. And Montenegro is better than Israel. So you cant put this on Capello being better than Roy. First russian goal was from a FK too so not much the coach has to do with that.

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          1. FPL Daniel
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Moldavia and no Moldavia isn't better than Israel. And no chance for you to beat Montenegro with that margin

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            1. 4vets
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              *see below 😉

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          2. 4vets
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            *Moldova

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  15. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Soldado starts upfront for Spain. SIlva also starts. Torres, Santi and Cesc all on bench

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    1. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Santi on the bnech... ahhh.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        That means that he won't be injured and will start surely at the w/e

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        1. Scroobius Mac
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Or come on and get injured..don't count your chickens.

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        2. 4vets
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I'm hoping...

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      2. LeSagna
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Why the disappointment?

        Or is that a sigh of relief? 😉

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        1. 4vets
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Relief!

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    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Santi on the bench? I like that.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I. Casillas, G. Piqué S. Ramos Á. Arbeloa J. Alba X. Alonso S. Busquets Xavi A. Iniesta D. Silva R. Soldado

        Subs
        J. Reina F. Torres C. Fábregas D. Villa Navas Albiol Beñat Valdés Juanfran S. Cazorla N. Monreal Pedro

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Silva set for bench role this w/e ?

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          1. blue cheese
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Likely.

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          2. In Like Flynn.
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Would anyone notice this season?

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        2. In Like Flynn.
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Thanks Daniel.

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  16. The Pep Revolution
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Two questions please lads:

    1. Is Ivanovic nailed on?

    2. Is Kagawa injured and how long is he expected to be out for?

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    1. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      1. No, longer term.
      2. No idea.... it's a back "niggle" but who knows?

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    2. LeSagna
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      1. Yes, for now anyway (tbh, I think he's in the top 3 RB's in the league, almost no weakness, would be my season no 1 if I was RDM)

      2. No idea, sorry

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      1. 4vets
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Azpilldoodah? I assume he will take over?

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        1. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Don't think he will immediately. Might be eased in though and take some game time every now and then.

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        2. La Roja
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          1. defo not nailed on with CL starting plus he's playing on all internationals for Serbia, otherwise he's actually a great pick

          2. Only a doubt for this weekend, nothing serious

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  17. Scroobius Mac
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    I can work out price rises but falls confuse me - is there any chance Nani falls before Bale does?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Depends what the guys at FPL Towers decide at the pub tomorrow, and how drunk they get as to whether they can remember who to P*ss off next.

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      1. 4vets
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        It's usually me.

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  18. FORCA INTER
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    i really need one more rise from jenikson and mccauley

    if that possible before dedline?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Will that give you enough to get Yaya?

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        clyne-clark

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        1. In Like Flynn.
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I doubt you'll know until Saturday morning.

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    2. Gaz Downright
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I am counting on a rise for both of these.

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  19. Evs
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Looks like old kagawa will miss out this weekend then folks.

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    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Well, I suppose it solves the problem of who to bench.

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Their not going to risk him v Wigan with sme big games approaching.

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        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Cheers Evs, I think you're right.

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        2. La Roja
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          i think RVP is likely to be benched too

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          1. Evs
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            😯

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            1. La Roja
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              you never know with fergie, rvp is playing tonight too, so he may not risk him and rest for CL game

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              1. LeBron - King of Argentina
                • 11 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                No way he will bench him against Wigan. We have an easy CL group and Chicharito or Welbeck can play in easy games there for us.

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                1. La Roja
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  that makes sense too, i don't have rvp, i admit i'd love to see him benched 🙂

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              2. Evs
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                Cant see it myself, but stranger things have happens.

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                1. LeBron - King of Argentina
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  True, but Fergie knows that Wigan can be tough to beat even at Old Trafford

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      He will play and he will score

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      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        +1

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  20. Milk, 1 Šuker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Which two of Nolan/Pienaar/Morrison would you go for please gents? Also, I have £11.5m to spend on two defenders. Which would you choose for CS potential? FYI - have Foster/Bego GK combo.

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    1. Red20
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Nolan and Pienaar.

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    2. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'd want Pienaar in there, probably with Nolan. Defenders: that's a tidy sum, I might go for the new Swan if he comes in at 4.5 and drop Baines in too.

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  21. Xhaka Kahn't
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    How crazy is it to have Maloney and Di Santo in my WCT?

    Their underlying stats (and actual points) are very good. Wigan have proved that they play well against the good sides.

    They'll be warming the bench initially but I wouldn't be worried to throw them on fairly regularly.

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    1. Gaz Downright
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Bad fixtures for Wigan, but it's not utterly bonk. I'd go with max 1 myself thouhg

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'd get Maloney and Pog.

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    3. megatronaldinho
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      i wouldn't go down that route. one wiganite attacker is ample exposure. they ain't a good enough team to warrant excessive 'coverage'

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  22. Scratch
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    This article says Vidal is the Juventus penalty taker which would make him a "must have" but why wouldn't Pirlo be on pen duty?

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    1. Ramboros
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Because Vidal never miss 😉

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Why not? Guess he's a better pen taker than Pirlo.

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    3. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      takes them better

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    4. Bendy Busdriver
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Pirlos trick gets old, after awhile

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  23. onionbarje
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Is it time to do Kags>Santi as Kags is injured

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    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      He might not miss more than one game yet, depends whether you'd rather have Cazorla anyway.

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  24. d1sable
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    11 years, 7 months ago

    Any news on Zabaleta injury?

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  25. blue cheese
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    @AJohno_11 (Adam Johnson)
    yeah its looking good for saturday i should be fit for the game against liverpool

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Sweet. One less issue to worry about.

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  26. Djerbil
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Any one injured so far today??

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Kagawa.

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      1. Djerbil
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        saw that in the Scout tweets

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    2. Bendy Busdriver
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      kagsy slight headache

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      1. Djerbil
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        He has got a headache or will he cause FPL managers headache??

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        1. Bendy Busdriver
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          dats a good question

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  27. A.D.D
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    trying to download Fifa13 with origin.... not getting far.... is this normal on first day availability?

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  28. Djerbil
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Australia is in trouble..3 matches and 2 points..will take a hell of an effort now to qualify

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    1. Brookins
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Yup, and they screwed up my accumulator before it had even begun! 🙁

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    2. blue cheese
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      lol. losing to Jordan!

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  29. r0nh
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Cole out injured, Bertrand a good shout for Chelsea.

    Get on it like a car bonnet.

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