Scout Notes

The Stock Check – Sunday

Charles N’Zogbia inspires Villa to a precious three points, while United put in a frighteningly efficient shift to neutralise the Everton threat and grab the points via Robin Van Persie’s efforts. Here’s the Stock Check on Sunday’s events…

On the Up

Robin Van Persie
With two consecutive blanks, the Van Persie naysayers were rounding on the Dutchman, fueled by Wayne Rooney’s consistent scoring. Amidst concerns that the Dutchman could be rested with Wednesday’s Madrid tie in mind, we’ve seen sales of Van Persie throughout the week which have even led to a price drop in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game. Today’s goal and assist returns, however, instantly stung those who decided to trade him out and underlined his importance, both to United and our Fantasy lineups.

Rafael
The Brazilian chipped in with a slide rule pass to set Van Persie on his way to United’s second, whilst sealing back-to-back clean sheets at the other end. With Sir Alex Ferguson clearly allowing Everton possession but dropping his side deep to defend with some determination, we could now see Rafael and the United backline begin to find form and start returning a stream of clean sheets. Rested back in Gameweek 24, the Brazilian’s performance today demonstrated just why he has cemented the right-back role this term.

David De Gea
Can we now settle on the Spaniard as an option in goal? De Gea has started the last 11 league matches and, given that he was not rotated ahead of the Champions League clash with Madrid, it appears his position is looking as solid as ever. At 5.5 in the FPL, De Gea offers a cheap route to the United clean sheets which may now start to follow with regularity as they close in on the title. Interestingly, Ben Amos was on the United bench ahead of Anders Lindegaard, and yet the Dane was on the bench for his country in midweek – presumably fit and well: it’s a situation that warrants monitoring.

Charles N’Zogbia
It seems unlikely that a Villa player can find his way into our midfields but there’s little doubt that N’Zogbia is the leading candidate on offer. The former Wigan man returned a goal and assist in the win over West Ham and has now fetched points in three of his last four outings. It’s clear that Villa’s top-flight status rests on his form and Christian Benteke’s goals.

Going Down

Wayne Rooney
With Sir Alex Ferguson keen to ensure that his side conceded little ground to Everton, Rooney’s attacking instincts were shackled by a role out on the left flank for the majority of the match. His potential curbed, Rooney was rarely able to threaten in tandem with Van Persie and his owners will surely have been frustrated by the withdrawn role granted to him and the Dutchman’s timely return to form.

Marouane Fellaini
Sir Alex Ferguson deployed Phil Jones to snuff out the threat from the Belgian and it proved effective. Dropped deeper towards the end of the match by David Moyes, with Gareth Bale now a hot midfield property, Fellaini may be reluctantly sacrificed by some, with competition in the midfield area so fierce. The fixture list and past experience would suggest that patience with Fellaini will be rewarded, although, having earned an eighth booking of the season, another suspension is now a growing concern.

Joey O’Brien
Forced off on 25 minutes, the Hammers full-back was replaced by Guy Demel who returned to the fold after sitting out the home win over Swansea. This report states that O’Brien has suffered a thigh injury that will see him left at home for treatment while the Hammers squad go out to Dubai for a “warm weather break”. With fortnight before the next league action, it remains to be seen if the injury will put him on the sidelines for the Gameweek 27 fixture with Spurs.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. olidooley
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    I took out Bale for Gerrard and Rafa for Enrique and now can only field 9 players for next week......

    Keep your good players.....feck the DGW!

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    1. Viper
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      I took out Bale for Gerrard aswell, could still pay off, don't jump the gun 🙂

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      1. Godfather Bandit 42
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        Did the same and I totally agree...

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    2. gunnerlover
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Amen

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  2. Viper
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    Do you think i'd get away with this team in gwk 27..

    Fed
    Zabaleta Martin Demel (Davies, Johnson)
    Fellaini Mata Walcott (c) Bale (Michu)
    Pog RVP (Sturridge)

    Or should I take a hit? Sturridge -> Giroud/Dzeko

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    1. Manani
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      keep stu, you will want him later on anyway

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    2. olidooley
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Demel's not playing so you only have 9 players with RVP maybe rested

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      1. Viper
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Well Demel came on today in place of the injured O'Brien so he might hold his place..

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    3. Sebastian Rooks
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      ooh tough one id take a punt on giroud getting a goal to make the hit worth your while.. wouldnt bet on dzeko tho

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      1. bring on Real Madrid !
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        i m getting rid of sturridge for lambert as he will also play in GW29

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    4. gunnerlover
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Did you take a hit going in?

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    5. सनकी
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      I would start sturridge.

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  3. dogtanion
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    remove the shawcross asssist already before bonii

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    1. LewanGOALski
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      is it gonna be removed..?

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  4. Ginkapo FPL
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    Lebron?

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    1. Manani
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      prefer jordans

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      1. LeBron - King of Argentina
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        I prefer both 😛

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    2. Very Messi
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Nah, Michael Jordan 😆

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    3. LeBron - King of Argentina
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      H mate, come on steam 😉

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Shawn Kemp.

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        gary payton

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          RIP SuperSonics 🙁

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          1. LeBron - King of Argentina
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Might be back soon, heard rumours

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        2. LeBron - King of Argentina
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          11 years, 2 months ago

          Nate McMillan 😛

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        3. New Ghost
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          The Glove!

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          1. LeBron - King of Argentina
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Yessir 😉

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  5. bennydebull
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone else think bonuses will be out tomorrow?

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    1. Bandwagon Driver
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Think so, the guy in his bedroom running fpl towers has got the flu!

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    2. bring on Real Madrid !
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      30 min more and they'll be out

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  6. bring on Real Madrid !
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    if next week chel beat city than gap be city and chel will be 1 pt
    noticed that just now

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  7. Richd
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    Glad I went for Rangel instead of Carragher. Its good to ask advice, then ignore 😉

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    1. GunsnRoses
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      +1 😉

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  8. AK ⭐
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    So Anichebe, Pogs or ALF? ALF doesn't get the starts, so I'm not into him. Pogs then? I know Anichebe is a flair pick, but Jelavic will surely come back into the team?

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    1. Burty
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Anichebe went off injured today so hold on

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Anichebe was subbed off today, injured, get Pog I think

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  9. HarryS
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    2 free transfers, help on what changes should I make?

    Bunn
    Zabaleta – Davies – Baines
    Mata – Taarabt – Michu – Walcott
    Lambert – RVP – Suarez
    Mignolet – Harte – Maloney – Onuoha

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  10. Stupendous
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    If my (rough) BAPS estimates are correct, the person who has the highest GW score so far will be on 134, with Michu left to play and at captain too!

    Shame he has no liverpool players.

    Thoughts on highest score this week? If this fellas on (around) 134 with another match for his captain, then surely someone with loadsa Lfc and Swans, and already with Bale, Michu(c), RVP and/or Rafa and one of Lamps/Haz/Santi/Theo, will be get some MASSIVE haul.

    160 plus???

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    1. Podge
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Never seen anyone break 150 but this could well be the week.

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      1. Stupendous
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Mental, and quite frankly disgusting considering I am on 39pts right now.

        Took a 8pt hit to load up for the DGW, without even having Michu either, and was expecting more green arrows.

        Hardly a hope unless Suarez and Sturridge bag 8 goals between them over 180mins.

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        1. Stupendous
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          5-1 v WBA
          3-1 v Swans

          That should do it. 🙂

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      2. Old Man
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        My lad scored 172 in the DGW towards the end of last season ...... 12th in the world for that week

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    2. GunsnRoses
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      I feel with decent score of Suarez 2 goals in 2 matches 100-110 will be very much gettable this week so I expect some 140 as the highest one at least.

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    3. applebonkers
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      would be surprised if michu played, went off injured

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  11. Oxyd
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    HI all was planning on doing suarez to giroud for my transfer this week. Now not so sure.
    Team is Federici Turnbull
    Davies, Clyne, Harte, Fabio, Demel
    Walcott, Michu, Guthrie, Bale, Mata
    RVP, Suarez, Sturridge
    Got 2.8m in the bank. Want to be able to field 11 next week. So thinking suarez is probably the one to go as i'm not convinced of his long term returns. Options
    A. Suarez to Giroud
    B. Suarez to Aguero
    C. Suarez to lambert
    D. Something Else

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  12. Sarnab
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Any Uefa Council member out here??

    I heard you all are planning for some doubles tournament like the one in euros. Is that true?

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    1. Stupendous
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Yea me. We are too busy doing crack with prozzies, and drinking French wine afterwards to care about replying to your post properly.

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  13. olidooley
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    40 pts with 8 to play + 2 captains is OK????

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    1. olidooley
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Including 2 captains actually...

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    2. The EJJ
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Nah mate, rubbish score.

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      1. olidooley
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks for the confidence builder!.....I kinda knew already though....need big ones from the Pool players

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    3. Viper
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Not brilliant but better than me 😀

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  14. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    any news on sturridge? Fitness test was today

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    1. The King
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Nope. Really hope he's fit. He's my (C) and if he starts I could get big score.

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    2. Stephen - Robot Daniels
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      According to tweets today he was in the match squad, not sure that means much though.

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    3. applebonkers
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      not sure it was a traditional fitness test they are on the morning of the match. rodgers just said he would be monitered in training which suggests he's in full training, i'd be optimistic

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  15. Ed
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Any know why Fabio didn't play? Dropped? Injured?

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    1. The King
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      His leg died

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      1. The Light Knight
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        I'm frightened...

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      2. megatronaldinho
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        ha! i'm as bad as you in that my first instinct also was to reference the mills and boon covergod. dang! i must be gayer than i thought

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  16. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    I just realised that I have 32 points the same number of counties in Ireland then I realised that I have taken a 4 point hit.
    Does that mean I gained two counties back 🙂

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    1. olidooley
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      It means you lost 2 counties......4 more lost and we have another war on our hands

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  17. AK ⭐
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    JK, who are you getting Bale in for? And what would your team look like for GW27?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Guthrie

      Migs

      Rafa, Zaba, Turner, Pearce

      Fellain, Mata, Walcott (c), Bale

      RvP, Pog

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      1. AK ⭐
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers. Looks good tbh.

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  18. Viper
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Gwk 27 is going to be a car crash 😆

    I have 10 players & 2 of my defenders play 2 of my attackers so something has to give there..

    Wildcard may yet be utilised 😎 Wanted to keep it for a big dgwk down the line though..

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    1. Rabid Dog
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Car Crash, it potentially could be that bad you could make another Final Destination out of it.

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Big Dgw is probably still the answer. It might hurt next week to drop 10 or 15 points but easily made up with the teams who are likely to get doubles.

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  19. 4vets
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    11 years, 2 months ago

    Merciless repost:

    Ok… gladly it has been an underwhelming week for idiocy of the nasty kind.

    The Total Twat Award for this Saturday is given to Juree for his early post:

    http://www.fantasyfootballscou.....nt-5150016

    Following up not too far behind is Kokak for:

    http://www.fantasyfootballscou.....nt-5154502

    I’m really heartened that so many less hateful, stupid things have been said here this week!

    No award for Sunday (unless you have some suggestions) which is brilliant!

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Links need a tweak

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      1. सनकी
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Guess he was too excited to post.

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    2. सनकी
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Hahahahah 😆

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    3. AK ⭐
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Abhishek didn't make it to that list? How? 😯

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      1. 4vets
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        Show me the url... 🙂

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        1. AK ⭐
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          I don't have one. Though I was pretty sure he'd be one of them this week as well.. 😛

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      2. New Ghost
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        There's nothing hateful about touching your butt. 🙂

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        1. AK ⭐
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          11 years, 2 months ago

          But inserting your palm into it? 😯 😆

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          1. 4vets
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            11 years, 2 months ago

            I guess that worthy of an honourable mention 🙂

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          2. New Ghost
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Good Lord. He inserted his palm?

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            1. 4vets
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 2 months ago

              I think he said "hand" 😯

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    4. The EJJ
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Links don't work for me.

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      1. dogtanion
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        juree's post is is kinda funny..it's so outrageous

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      2. ★FC Borecelona★
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        The Kokak one 😆

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    5. Sarnab
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Links not working

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    6. The Gambler.
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Link fails

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    7. JT's Dog
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        Can't get links working

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        1. 4vets
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Look up... will repost later. Have to play cards now!

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      • Godfather Bandit 42
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        And the award for The Best Non-Functional Link goes to.....

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    8. सनकी
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Best spots in Tokyo, Japan?

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Nipple spots

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        1. सनकी
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Ahh the good ol stupid replies. I just love em ! 😀

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        2. The Light Knight
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          I prefer liver spots, Mr. Burns styley

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    9. The EJJ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I'm not going to be disheartened by my Bale->Gerrard transfer yet, Gerrard could easily get 15+ pts over the next 2 games 🙂

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    10. GoonerByron
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Best option for a cheap 5th mid?

      Going Puncheon to Guthrie on my Jan wildcard has killed me!

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      1. New Ghost
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Puncheon or Kebe

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      2. The Gambler.
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        You wouldnt have played Punch but at least he gets 60 mins, not much more tho!

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      3. Back to Back Ballacks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Maloney, 2 in 2 and still hasn't got the peno he's due.

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    11. chunk
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Anyone doing Sturridge to Dzeko tonight

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      1. Rabid Dog
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        It's in one of my mix ups for the GW 27 but it won't be until LIv v Swa next week in case something happens to the one i would of kept.

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      2. Rabid Dog
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Tbh It'll prob be Suarez that goes to release cash plus I prefer studge

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        1. chunk
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Have both also and want bale and upgrade Guthrie to Tarrabt -8 seems crazy but I'd farther field 11 as its gonna be a poor GW all round

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    12. Sarabande
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      So funny how a gameweek can turn every plan upside down, before yesterday and today I was hellbent on making these moves over the next 2 gameweeks, only the last one seems like a particularly good idea now.

      Suarez >>>> Rooney
      Michu >>>> Sissoko
      Benteke >>>> Aguero
      Cameron >>>> Wilson

      I have the funds to get RVP back in for Suarez if needs be. Is it a no brainer? Very afraid we'll see him rotated much more frequently now that the league is sown up...

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    13. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Can somebody succinctly explain the upcoming blank gameweeks for me please. What teams and when?

      No Liv and Swansea gags either.

      Thanks in advance.

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        1. CE
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Many thanks snakey.

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        2. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          wow that is a great link. Credit the authors!

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      1. Back on the horse
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Liv and Swansea go into a bar.... oh

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    14. bring on Real Madrid !
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      don't make transfers that early usually but bale to gerrard pull th trigger ?

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      1. The Gambler.
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        FA cup next week

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          🙄 spurs r knocked out

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      2. CE
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        no

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      3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        yep but the other way round

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        1. bring on Real Madrid !
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          spurs have lyon twice thats y slightly worried
          what to do ?

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          1. Uncle John from Jamaica
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            11 years, 2 months ago

            Bale s rising tonight so get him now.

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      4. Godfather Bandit 42
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        Should have did it for the DGW.

        Don't do it now....Keep Bale.

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    15. kimoo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Repooost Guys Really neeed help there

      team linked

      guys i have 4 DGW with Gibbs and Guthrie

      A- Gibbs >> Sagana

      B- Guthrie , Suarez >> Sissoko , Dezko / Lambert -4

      C- Guthrie , Sturridge >> Sissoko , Pog -4

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    16. Nice2Michu
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      4 one-pointers in my team 🙁 fecking van persie drove me way down the GW rank

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    17. JD_96
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Everyone will be back on the RVP bandwagon next GW it seems.

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      1. LMNO
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        Daft really, he will be rested over the coming game weeks.

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          thanks for the heads up

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          1. LMNO
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 2 months ago

            SAF said in the post match interview that 7 members of the team that played were due to be rested due to the R.Madrid match. I imagine this train of thought will continue during the CL run in. Think Hernandez could be a good shout over the coming weeks.

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      2. Rabid Dog
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Can every one afford to buy him back 😉

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      3. Phaze 1
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        don't think they can if they got him at 13. They need to find 0.5 and thats not super easy with the P5

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    18. HarryS
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Bunn
      Zabaleta – Davies – Baines
      Mata – Taarabt – Michu – Walcott
      Lambert – RVP – Suarez
      Mignolet – Harte – Maloney – Onuoha

      Any help on transfers? Cheers

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      1. One flew over Lukakus nest
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Bale? If you could.

        Whats everyones thoughts on Sturridge to? Lambert best choice?

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