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Fantasy Premier League – Player List Analysis – Mid-Price Midfielders

This evening brings part six of our ongoing analysis of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) Player List. Having previously rolled out articles on Goalkeepers, Budget, Mid-Price and Premium Defenders, we brought you the lowdown on Budget Midfielders yesterday evening. This time, we move up a bracket and cast an eye over what’s on offer from the mid-price midfielders.

Mikel Arteta will be hoping to benefit from the Bonus Points System introduced by the FPL this term, with his all-round contribution seemingly favoured by the new scoring metric. With spot-kicks also in his locker, the Spaniard is favourably priced at just 7.0 but is likely to be overlooked for the more explosive options elsewhere in the Gunners midfield. Jack Wilshere also has the potential to be a bargain. Coming in at 6.5, he’d be a steal if he is handed the role in “the hole” at the expense of Tomas Rosicky, though Wilshere’s versatility may see him drop deeper alongside Arteta in the double-pivot. Much also depends on his game time, with Arsene Wenger perhaps keen to court caution over his ongoing ankle problem, while his manager’s movements in the summer transfer market may afford us a clue as to where Wilshere will be fielded next time out.

There are a handful of options in the mid-price bracket at Chelsea but a lack of guaranteed minutes makes any of the more attack-minded alternatives no more than a punt. While Ramires looks a relatively secure starter at 6.5, there are far better Stamford Bridge alternatives in the premium bracket to consider than the Brazilian. Similarly, Marco Van Ginkel (6.0), Victor Moses (6.5) and Kevin de Bruyne (7.0) would all have the potential to flourish as first-team options elsewhere but are up against it in their attempt to nail down a regular role – giving them an initial wide berth looks the safest option here until we get a firm idea of Jose Mourinho’s plans.

Kevin Mirallas looks the likeliest Everton midfielder to benefit from Roberto Martinez’s arrival on Merseyside. If, as anticipated, the new man in charge opts for a 3-4-3, the Belgian should line up on the right of the front three, affording us a real out of position prospect over the season ahead. While Steven Pienaar should be handed the role on the left, Mirallas’ eye for goal is clearly superior and more than atones for the fact he comes in at 7.5 to the South African’s 7.0 – he scored six times in 23 starts last term compared to Pienaar’s six goals in 35 starts. Providing he remains injury-free, then, Mirallas seems the most enticing option from the blue half of Merseyside, with Leon Osman (6.5) likely to be fielded in a central midfield berth under the new man in charge.

Damien Duff is the most secure option on the Fulham flanks, though the winger is subsequently the most expensive at 6.0. Duff chipped in with three goals and seven assists in 2012/13 but if any of the Cottagers cheaper alternatives can cement a role out wide, he is likely to be overlooked. Indeed, with Dimitar Berbatov priced at just 7.5 up top, it’s more than likely that the Bulgarian will be the main recipient of Fulham attention in 2013/14, having notched 15 times last time out.

The arrival of Iago Aspas and Luis Alberto looks to have put paid to Stewart Downing’s consistency of starts at Liverpool. Both Downing and Alberto come in at 6.0 but with Aspas and Philippe Coutinho expected to be handed the wide roles, neither of the former two look legitimate options and seem highly unlikely to cement regular roles. Similarly, Jordan Henderson (6.0) forced his way into the first XI as the previous campaign unfolded but should fall down the pecking order in light of new summer acquisitions, with Rodgers still likely to spend big money on a replacement for the role in “the hole”, having missed out on Henrikh Mkhitaryan earlier this summer.

Man United’s failure to present us with a viable midfield option last season has seen many of their assets take a real tumble in price. Nani, Antonio Valencia and Ashley Young all come in at a mere 7.5 after producing a measly two goals between them across the entirety of 2012/13. The wing roles are up for grabs under David Moyes, then, and with new boy Wilfried Zaha (6.5) also throwing his hat into the ring, Fantasy managers will be keenly assessing the pre-season situation, with the potential of real value should Moyes help his wide wen rediscover the form of seasons gone by. While Michael Carrick (6.0) may benefit from the new Bonus Points System and is the more secure starter, there are better attacking options available elsewhere for those shopping on a similar budget.

Hatem Ben Arfa is the most enticing of a trio of Frenchman plying their trade at Newcastle. While Yohan Cabaye (6.5) and Moussa Sissoko (6.0) are cheaper than the 7.0 priced winger, both should be fielded in a more withdrawn position, with Ben Arfa likely to be handed a place on the right of a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. Granted, Cabaye does have a share of set-pieces and corners to fall back on but Ben Arfa’s more advanced role is the most appealing – providing he can steer clear of injury, of course. With home games against West Ha, Fulham and Hull in addition to trip to Villa in the first five, the opening schedule looks kind for the Magpies – Sissoko will be hoping Alan Pardew grants his recent request to be moved back into “the hole” behind a lone forward, though.

Robert Snodgrass is the standout option at Carrow Road. Despite finishing in the top 10 midfielders in his debut Premier League season last time out, the former Leeds man remains firmly in the mid-price bracket, with a cost of just 6.5 looking a real bargain. Snodgrass is cheaper than new forward Ricky Van Wolfswinkel (7.0) for the Canaries and has three strong home games (EVE, SOT, AVL) and a trip to Hull in his first five fixtures. Both Adam Lallana and Gaston Ramirez will set you back 6.0 after average seasons in 2012/13. While Lallana is boosted by a share of set-pieces and corners, Ramirez will be desperate to show his true class after managing just five goals and four assists in his first year in the Premier League – the Uruguayan may face competition for our attention at St Mary’s, though, with Jay Rodriguez similarly priced up front and already in top form over pre-season. Mauricio Pochettino’s side have seven very favourable home games (SUN, WHM, CPL, SWA, FUL, HUL, AVL) to further the appeal of their main protagonists.

Mark Hughes’ arrival at Stoke could be set to reinvigorate Charlie Adam’s Fantasy potential. The Scot started just 22 times under Tony Pulis in 2012/13 but is set to be installed at the heart of the new manager’s midfield – at 6.0, with a monopoly on set-pieces and corners, Adam’s creativity will be key for the Potters next time out. Jon Walters is a little more expensive at 6.5, though it remains to be seen just how Hughes views the Republic of Ireland international. The new man in charge is looking for a more attacking brand of football and may well opt for a more natural striker alongside Peter Crouch up top as he attempts to improve on a record that saw Stoke score just 34 times in Pulis’ final season in charge.

Paolo Di Canio’s squad overhaul places question marks against the Sunderland starting XI over the season ahead. Certainly, new boy Emanuele Giaccherini (7.0) looks set for a regular role for the Black Cats, possibly on the left flank, though if Stephane Sessegnon’s rumoured move away from Wearside comes to fruition, the similarly priced Adam Johnson seems a safe bet on the opposite wing. Johnson finished just one point behind David Silva last season and was Sunderland’s top scorer on 146 points – while his price seems favourable, a dire run of home games, which sees Arsenal, Liverpool, United, City, Chelsea and Spurs arrive at the Stadium of Light between Gameweeks 4 and 15, may deter many until the schedule smiles that little bit kinder.

Swansea duo Pablo Hernandez and Jonathan de Guzman have both been handed 6.0 price tags after producing 110 and 127 points last time out. The main issue is the number of midfield options now available to Michael Laudrup, though; we can expect Michu to play the vast majority of matches in “the hole”, leaving four spots available for 10 players to fight for – Hernandez and de Guzman could suffer if Laudrup rolls out a rest and rotation policy, with Europa League duties also to consider this time out.

Tottenham’s formation under Andre Villas-Boas will be key as to how we assess new boy Paulinho. Many reckon a shift from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 is on the cards, with the Brazilian taking up the most advanced role and Gareth Bale moving to the flank – if such as scenario transpires, Paulinho may prove a contender for our attentions at just 7.0. Elsewhere in the Spurs midfield, Clint Dempsey and Aaron Lennon, at 7.5 apiece, will be hoping to nail down a role on the flank if Villas-Boas moves to 4-3-3 – with Sandro and Mousa Dembele likely to join Paulinho in the centre and Bale taking up one of the flank roles, it leaves a vacancy on the opposite flank ahead of an eye-catching opening run of matches.

James Morrison comes in at 6.0 after racking up 133 points in 2012/13 – second only to Romelu Lukaku for West Brom. The Scot’s role in the hole helped him rack up five goals and eight assists in Steve Clarke’s first season at the Hawthorns helm – three decent home games in the first five (SOT, SWA, SUN) suggests he could be quick out the blocks but with new boy Nicolas Anelka costing just 5.5 up top, many may opt for the more budget-friendly Frenchman instead.

Finally, West Ham’s Kevin Nolan will take up 7.0 of your budget this season after delivering 149 points in the previous campaign. Nolan’s appeal is heightened by a superb opening six Gameweeks (CAR, new, STO, sou, EVE, hul), though with his sidekick Andy Carroll possibly set to miss the start of the season with a heel problem, Nolan’s eye for goal may not quite be so in focus. If he can continue from the form that saw him rattle a hat-trick past Reading on the final day of 2012/13, Nolan has the potential for an early-season bandwagon.

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  1. Derailed Bandwagon
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Not many consistent mid price mids this season imo.

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    1. Canadian Football
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Totally disagree. I am sure there will be standouts:

      A United Mid will stand out...Kag/Young/Val/Zaha

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      1. Mr. Greedy
        • 14 Years
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        Or Nani?!?!

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        1. calver92
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          im backing nani to stand out if he gets regular game time

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  2. MJ6987
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    10 years, 10 months ago

    I am always striving for value for money in FPL. So, when it comes to covering some of the obvious teams, are these "luxury attacking options" worth the price premium over cheaper alternatives?

    Walcott 9.5 > Giroud 8.5

    RVP 14.0 > Kagawa 8.0

    Hazard 9.5 > Lukaku 8.0 / Lampard 9.0 / Oscar 8.5

    Aguero 11.0 > Silva 9.0 / Negredo 9.0-10-0???

    Lambert 7.5 > J.Rod 6.0

    (I won't even mention Bale as they are such a one-man team!!)

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    1. 1-1 at Newcastle
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Giroud yes
      Kagawa no
      Lukaku maybe (probably not)
      silva defo
      Jrod yes

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      1. Acer
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        All this love for Jay Rodriguez is comedy. Lambert will outscore him again and by a considerable margin I don't doubt.

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        1. Red5
          • 12 Years
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          By how many points do you reckon?

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    2. SW6
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      I think Silva will be better value than Aguero, and JRod will match Lambert

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    3. Parm
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      Yes
      Yes
      Yes
      Yes
      Yes

      Although to fit these in you have to compromise one, or Bale.

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    4. thetinkerman
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Sometimes they work out, sometimes they fail miserably, mainly due to the captaincy

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    5. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Correction: Lampard is only 8.0

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    6. Twisted Saltergater
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Lampard is 8.0m btw

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    7. Mr. Greedy
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Really don't get all the J.Rod love. I'm always striving for the 'one-man team' players in FPL - the guys on all the pens, direct free kicks and getting all the goals. Lambo weighed in with nearly 190 points for only £7.5m. If that's not value for money, what is?

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      1. drunken_mess
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        towards the end of the season Lambert was playing in behind Rod. So Rod was getting more goals

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        1. Mr. Greedy
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          More than he did at the beginning of the season, but not more than Lambert,

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    8. drunken_mess
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Giroud cant hit a barn door with a banjo
      Kagawa might not start
      Hazard might be the only one to start, other will be rotated
      Negredo might not start
      j.Rod if played as the lone forward is better value

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    9. SC not pearls before swine
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      I would say Hazard definitely, just because there's so much uncertainty over the other 3's playing time, and the price difference isn't that substantial.

      Walcott/Aguero are both good options IMO, it just kind of depends on the fit in your team, I would say that pairing Silva/Aguero or Walcott/Giroud wouldn't be the worst thing in the world with the opening fixtures for City/Arsenal.

      I'm in the camp that RVP's too expensive to consider, give me Sturridge and 5 million any day of the week. However, I'm not ready to leap for Kagawa just yet, I'll wait and see who nails down the United wing spots.

      I don't think Lambert's worth the premium over JRod unless you think Rodriguez isn't nailed on.

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    10. QPR expects... glory!
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      My thinking, flawed as it may be...

      Walcott over Giroud because unless Arsenal sign a big name striker, when Giroud is rested Walcott is first in line to replace him!

      Kagawa over RVP because I can't imagine paying £14m for anyone and Kags is both a great differntial when the fixture list eases and in a good price bracket to swap with others if he doesn't pan out

      Any of the latter trio over Hazard. I have Lampard, am tempted by Lukaku (who I think will be a 20+ goal striker this year) and think Oscar is a terrific player who we haven't seen the best of yet. If he gets the role in the hole I think he'll be dynamite.

      Aguero over Silva and Negredo. Loathe to make this choice as bad luck and Aguero go together in my team! I think Silva will play on the LW negating his value. As for Negredo I can't see how he fits in to the starting line-up. (You didn't mention Jovetic who I expect to be cheaper than Negredo and get the role in the hole. If he's 8.5 do you take him over the other three?)

      J-Rod over Lambert. The latter is getting on and needs his rest. J-Rod is young, talented and already stepping up to replace him. Notably he's also practicing pens in pre-season...

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    11. Red5
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Giroud no
      Kagawa no (unless he starts regularly)
      Lampard yes, Lukaku yes if he starts regularly
      Silva yes, Negredo yes
      JRod nothing in it

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  3. Parm
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    10 years, 10 months ago

    Interesting to see you class Mirallas as 'mid-priced', how do you define 'mid-priced' from 'premium'?

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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
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      6 - 9 is mid priced in my book. Anything over 9 is a heavy hitter

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  4. Evs
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    10 years, 10 months ago

    Clint could turn out to be a profitable 'punt' if you got the balls...

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    1. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      If, as seems likely they switch to 433, I don't see where he fits in.

      Can't see him starting ahead of Lennon on the flank, or getting the nod as the central striker.

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    2. Derailed Bandwagon
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Hows your team shaping up evs??

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      1. Evs
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Did my first draft earlier today, still not studied the tickaaaa fully or set up my 'magic' spreadsheet but plenty of time... 🙂

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        1. Derailed Bandwagon
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Yes there is, don't want to start too early or else you'll keep changing it 😉

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        2. MJ6987
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Lol @ "tickaaaa" 😆

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    3. QPR expects... glory!
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Foresight on a transfer Evs? I'd agree with you if he gets flogged off to WBA (as was rumoured last weekend)

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  5. Grounderz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Paul, isn't Iago Aspas classified as a forward in FPL? Why is he labelled in bold in the article?

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    1. Mark
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      • 17 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      My error...not Paul's. Corrected now. Thanks.

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      1. Grounderz
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        No worries. Had me wondered. 😀

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    2. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Because he has an influence in a mid-priced midfielders FPL appeal.

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  6. marco_atk85
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    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    A) berba + RvW
    B) sturridge + jrod

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    1. jmcclory123
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      B

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      B by furlongs

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  7. SW6
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Have we written off Sissoko as an FPL prospect? Still playing 'in the hole' isn't he?

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    1. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Should play in the hole unless Cabaye is sold.

      Looks a good option at his price given that, however if fit, I prefer Ben Arfa at a higher price.

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  8. AK ⭐
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    10 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone has the link to Berbagod'sdefensive spreadsheet? Many thanks.

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      1. Podge
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Man thats a read and a half, great work lads

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  9. New Ghost
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    RM have accepted a 32M bid from Napoli for Higuain. Personal terms to be agreed. (Sky Italia)

    Oi Arsene, wake the feck up.

    http://i.imgur.com/iRXmfiJ.jpg

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    1. SW6
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Sky Italia seem quite unreliable. Are they actually part of Sky Sports?

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      1. CABAYE4
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Not sure, but they've reported a lot of rubbish about Newcastle players/targets before. Last summer Ba had signed for Galatasaray according to them for one.

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      2. New Ghost
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        10 years, 10 months ago

        No idea. Just passing along the message.

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    2. Derailed Bandwagon
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      What is going on at arsenal?? Surely the only explanation for this potentially missed target is they're feeling confident on snapping up suarez.

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      1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
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        10 years, 10 months ago

        They have already got Sanogo 😀 they don't need anyone else

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    3. Elniñorules
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      It's almost as if his grand-daughter jails him up till deadline day. No movement 😉

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        1. Elniñorules
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Lulz. That must be an Arsenal fan pushing him into the pool

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  10. Adro3
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    10 years, 10 months ago

    I'm off for Top Gear.

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  11. Doctor X
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Care to share some views on these two options please?

    A) Aguero + Walcott + Collins

    B) Van Persie + Nolan/A. Johnson/Arteta/Ben Arfa (if fit) + Parr - - - [Gives me no City attackers]

    If I start with A, I will probably end up with B post GW 3. Looking for some constructive well weighted opinions lads.

    Ta muchly!

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    1. WHY SO SEVERUS
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      A. I think Aguero and Walcott have the potential to outscore RVP and a mid price over the 1st few weeks, also Collins has great fixtures defensively whereas Parr is a bench warmer for most

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  12. Dynamic
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Please can you rate my team guys 😀

    Mignolet Given
    Zabaleta Koscielny Collins Chester Parr
    Bale Hazard Walcott Silva Thomas
    Sturridge Kone JRod

    Thanks 😀

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    1. Evs
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I like it. But little light uptop.

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      1. Dynamic
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks for the feedback Evs.

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        1. Evs
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Are you set on Zabs?

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          1. Dynamic
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Not totally.

            Originally I went for Nasty, but I thought it was worth paying 0.5m extra for Zaba's certainty of starts in a great defence.

            What do you think about Zaba?

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            1. Evs
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              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              I think he will play, but... With a new manager you just don't know.

              I actually think Lescott could be back as first choice centre half with Vincent,.

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      If it were my team, I'd trim down one of those premium MFers to upgrade to a premium forward.

      I like the balance, though ... I, like you seem to be, are more interested in some quality at the back - unlike the fashionable uber-cheap defenses dominating the RMTs lately.

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      1. Dynamic
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        • 12 Years
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        Thanks for the feedback.

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    3. Rui
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Very similar to my second draft. I have the same mid and forward line bar Kone - got RVW instead. I've gone with Nasty over Zaba too... which will enable Collins to be upgraded to Coleman here.

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      1. Dynamic
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        • 12 Years
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        Thanks for the feedback

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    4. Red5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Zabs good but I think you'd get just as many points out of Johnson or Enrique for .5 less. I'd use it to upgrade Chester or Parr to Clyne so you have at least some flexibility in your defence.

      The frontline isn't that strong but they should offer good value for money and you have captain options elsewhere so it doesn't really matter.

      8/10

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  13. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Am I the only one who looks at Mirallas with grave suspicion? 😀

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    1. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I can't make my mind up on him atm. May head the Kone way instead I think

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    2. Grounderz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Do share. 😀

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I just don't believe he is worth 7.5 more than Pienaar - and I'm not sure about him, either!

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        1. Grounderz
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Honestly and frankly, I haven't followed closely on Mirallas other than reports about his great performance against Accrington Stanley. And I've recruited him solely because I am well afraid of being burned again by giving myself wrong judgments that a form player I believe who's temporary form would not last - and turn out a fantasy gold. 🙁

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Right. I have got Osman.

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    3. Elniñorules
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Great player for Zimbabwe. Will always remember Mirallas for his amazing knock at #11.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Hahaha!

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    4. guillermo
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I'd worry about that hamstring but he's a quality player

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    5. Red5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Duefelergruffalo will probably eat into Pienaar or Mirallas' time too, but which? Seems like he can play either side.

      Kone seems like the best option to me.

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  14. Evs
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    Right, I'm still not convinced for gk rotation.

    Think I'm going to fly with one keeper.

    I may even go super budget - 8.5m on x2 keepers.

    And, if I get a sniff that Robles is No1 choice for Everton he will be the 4.5m

    Risky stuff. . .v

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    1. Grounderz
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      A more riskier move would be Mignolet + 4.0 goalkeeper regardless of bench or starters. 🙂

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      1. Evs
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Not when Reina moves...

        4.5m + a 4m

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    2. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
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      EVS are you planning to do Sky and Metro this season or are you gonna solely concentrate on maintaining that high rank in FPL again !

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      1. Evs
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I may have a go at the Sky game, don't know much about Metro.

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        1. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
          • 14 Years
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          Shame really coz Teddy`s looking for the final few members to the Iron Man Challenge !!

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          1. Evs
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            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            He did ping me an email, but I politely declined and said I may give it a go next time out if the offer still stands 🙂

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            1. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
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              Cool fair enough ......

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    3. King Eric, in America
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I agree with this use of funds for the GK positions. My strategy this year ... made even easier by my expectation of only 2 points per week from the GK. If one can accept that, the 8.5 budget is easy to sleep with.

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    4. QPR expects... glory!
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      If Robles gets the nod no one will bother with an Everton defender until 2nd half of the season when they can afford Baines.

      Who is your alternative 4.5 GK?

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    5. Red5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Mignolet, Ruddy, or Boruc +4.0 for me. Will probably be Boruc +4.0 when I bottle leaving Bale out.

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  15. King Eric, in America
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Hmmm ... 6.0 and on freekicks ... could this be the reincarnation of Adam?

    Curse me, my interest is piqued.

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  16. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    What do u think of my team?
    Really want RVP, Bale, Baines backbone-

    Vorm - Mannone

    Baines - Parr - Collins - Clyne - Faye

    Bale - Thomas - Alex Pozuelo - Walcott - Mirallas

    RVP - Lambert - Bent

    Hoping Bent is transferred...

    Is it worth Bent > Gayle and Alex Poz > Hernandez

    or

    Downgrading Walcott to upgrade the 2 4.5s? - Perhaps to HBA

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  17. In Tommy We Trust
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Evening all

    Been doing some analysis to try and workout the effect of the new bonus system would have had on last seasons results for each club. Below is Arsenals findings as people like Mertesacker is proving a hot debate on how much the BPS will effect him.

    Background to the workings;

    Calculated the total bonus points given to Arsenal players (167)
    Calculated the Team percentage of the above total for each player who received at 1 bonus last season.
    Calculated the total EA PPI number given to all the players (5895)
    Calculated the total Opta BPS number given to all players (2385)
    Calculated the players percentage of the above two categories (EA PPI and Opta BPS)
    Calculated the difference in bonus allocation based off the two above percentages.

    It is all shown in the attached interactive table

    Conclusions;

    Yes, this is purely using numbers and not looking into the detail of every fixture that would give a true recalculation of players bonus figure but it does show general trends. For example, the biggest benefactor is Per Mertesacker (2.10) while the biggest loser is Theo Walcott (-5.25) from their original bonus figure. This could go someway to explaining why Walcott is priced at 9.5 compared to Santi 10.0.

    http://public.tableausoftware.com/views/ArsenalBounsPointSystemEffect/ArsenalBoard?:embed=y&:display_count=no

    Any thoughts?

    Cheers 🙂

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Boom. 😀

      Everywhere I turn, bloody Per is peeping out at me.

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Yep. What is interesting though is because he is in a side that this new system will potentially help a lot of players, they all really just cancelling massive gains out from each other. Like I said the biggest lose is Walcott with Giroud being next though.

        The Spurs one will be interesting when I get round to doing it. Bale will take a hammering imo

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Dembele? 😀

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          1. In Tommy We Trust
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Vertonghen 🙂

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            1. Red5
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Bale is right after the CBs though, and there isn't that much in it. I'd still expect Bale to pick up the 3 more often than not when he dominates a game, which is pretty often.

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Wow, so Arteta would have actually got lesser bonus in the new system? That dispels the myth.

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Its because there are a lot of players in the Arsenal ranks that are set to be helped by this system and he actually did very well bonus wise last season. 20 bonus points with a EA PPI of 540 which is second in the list behind Santi

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Good stuff Tommy. This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you.

          I wonder if its not a hassle, your bonus/adjusted bonus stats would be really helpful for the main players this year (maybe top 15/20 from every position last year). To see how the new system has affected them.

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          1. In Tommy We Trust
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Once I get through the clubs, I'll do some key findings posts ENR. Got over 300 players to work out first 🙂

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    3. Red5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I've been looking at it too, though I just did New BPS / minutes played, to see how BP friendly each player's game typically is.

      The problem is that I suspect many players with high averages (under the new system) get a consistently good score but rarely high enough to be among the highest scorers in any given match. It's interesting, but unless somebody applies the new system to last year's matches and works out how many actual points players would have been awarded over the season, it could be quite misleading to read too much into these.

      Cazorla (7.61 BPS per 90mins) beats Walcott (6.22), but on the other hand Walcott scored (7.64 regular points per 90mins) compared to Cazorla (5.59).

      In terms of value, Cazorla scores 0.56 (points per 90mins per million) to Walcott's 0.8.

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  18. jmcclory123
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Best buy

    A) Kagawa (8.0m Relatively cheap, lot of potential if Rooney leaves)

    B) Felaini (8.5m, fairly consistent)

    C) Michu (Poor starting games, 9.5m and Europa League - Prolific last season however)

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  19. Pinatta
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    What's that on a new bonus system? Is there an article on that yet?

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    1. Red5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      There's a bit on the Scout page of the game website.

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  20. Derailed Bandwagon
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    How many players do people have in their team that they would consider as consistent captain options, and who are they?

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    1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Consistent you say..
      Bale
      Walcott
      Aguero
      Sturridge

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      3. Van Persie, Bale and Cazorla.

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      1. Derailed Bandwagon
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I'm on 3 as well. Bale, Walcott, RVP. I would like one more tbh.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I refuse to cough up the funds for a fourth.

          I have two solid cheap mids who I hope will scrape up 3 points in rotation.

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Schneiderlin? 🙂

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      2. Heydudes13
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Cazorla is by no means consistent.

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        1. Derailed Bandwagon
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          No, but you would feel comfortable captaining him now and then

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          1. Heydudes13
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Not at all, he's so up and down which is a real turn off for captaincy material.

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    3. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Bale Hazard Walcott Silva(?) Sturridge

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    4. King Eric, in America
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      4 ... now.

      RVP, Bale, Hazard, Walcott.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        That is something!

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    5. Red5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      RVP, Bale, Walcott, Sturridge.

      Lampard if the right game came along - he scores goals and the new BP system wants to kiss him on the mouth.

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  21. drunken_mess
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Ronaldooooooo 🙂

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    1. Stephen - Robot Daniels
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      🙁

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      1. drunken_mess
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        😮 Bournemouth fan?

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  22. Grounderz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Fancy these two but can't decide which one of them I should pick - Snodgrass and Nolan. What's the argument?

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    1. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Snoddy. Nolan will be without the big Oaf for a while

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      1. Grounderz
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Hmm, I'm not understanding the connection with Andy Carroll. I may not have seen it myself but are you suggesting that he produces when Carroll is on the field?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Nolan is technically awful. He relies on a big man to poach his stuff close on goal - and even then he misses/fluffs 70%

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    2. Brutus619
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Carroll injured. Snoddy wins.

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  23. Joey Barton and Friends
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    can someone please tell me who rotates well with Migs? Cheers

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    1. Jude Rooney
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Howard

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    2. Darth
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Marshall

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  24. Podge
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I dont really want to bench any of my front 8 so I might just swap JRod out for a 4.5 forward and upgrade K Toure to Vertonghen methinks.
    Anyone know a 4.5 forward to stick on my bench that may get some game time if anyone gets rested/injured ?

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    1. Joey Barton and Friends
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I dont think there are any forwards priced at 4.5

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      1. Doctor X
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Maynard I think? Not so sure.

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      2. Podge
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Theres plenty but will any of them ever get game time ?

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        1. Joey Barton and Friends
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          sorry, that was my point...

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  25. calver92
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Please could someone rate my team?

    Krul Mannone
    Coleman Vertonghen Nastastic Shaw Toure
    Nani Walcott Hazard Fernandinho Paulinho
    Bony Kone RVW

    Too risky? Am tempted to go Fernandinho > Silva, Nastastic > Olsson, Toure > Cardiff Def and Nani > Kagawa

    Any other ideas?

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    1. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      5/10
      too many punts.

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  26. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    What's the general consensus between Mertesacker vs Kosceilny? Does one have a greater goal threat than the other? Which of the 2 is most likely to benefit from the new bonus point system? I can't seem to decide which of the 2 I should start the season off with...

    Thanks!

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    1. Jude Rooney
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Any chance Fabianski could be No.1 keeper? Be a nice way into that defence

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      1. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Possibly - I'd rather start the season with a nailed-on player though until it becomes clearer who's 1st choice for Wenger... 5.5 is still a pretty good price for a team that had the 2nd highest clean sheet record last season...

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  27. Jude Rooney
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    What is the main difference between 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 seem remarkably similar to me?

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Suppose teams go from 4-3-3 with the ball to 4-2-3-1 without it usually

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    2. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      4-3-3 tends to have 3 players playing narrow in midfield and they chop and change positions to find pockets of space. 2 wingers flank the forward, and the wingers tend not to track back. More commonly used as an away formation.

      4-2-3-1 is slightly more attacking in the sense that the 4 players further forward (3-1) don't have any defensive responsibilities other than at set pieces. The 3 behind the lone forward cause havoc and tend to have good vision to set up chances for the forward. The 2 holding players are there to break up the play and start attacks. This formation requires more overlapping from the full backs and is a great formation to use at home.

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      1. Rui
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I don't think either can be seen more attacking than the other. For example, a fluid 4-3-3 will always have an extra man in the final third compared to a structured 4-2-3-1. Imo, the latter can also be viewed as a 4-4-1-1 in some respect as most wingers are told to track back nowadays (even Robben!).

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      2. Jude Rooney
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Decent description but basically the same then?

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        1. Derailed Bandwagon
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          More or less, yeah

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        2. Rui
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          A 4-2-3-1 will have a player "in the hole" i.e. that pocket between the midfield and the striker.... a number 10 type player such as Mata or Rooney. With a 4-3-3, you have that man in central midfield, and therefore the formation uses more of a "lone striker" as no one tends to be playing directly off him. (AFAIK!!)

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          1. Jude Rooney
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Not seen many teams play a 'true' 4-2-3-1. United did it for a while when Ronnie was there but apart from that it is very similar to 4-3-3 or 4-4-1-1 with the only difference being the personnel.

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    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      4-3-3 is often a 4-1-2-2-1 with one DM in front of the back 4 as opposed to 2 in a 4-2-3-1.

      4-2-3-1 can easily be described as a 4-4-1-1.

      You're right. All very similar.

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      1. Jude Rooney
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        You from Chesterfield? I'm from Eckington?

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  28. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Best 8 mil mid?

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    1. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Mirallas or Kagawa if Rooney moves to Chelsea..

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    2. Doctor X
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Frank

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    3. 1-1 at Newcastle
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Kag.

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  29. drunken_mess
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Ok then, what does this look like fellas

    Mig---Boruc

    Shaw--Koscielny--Chester--Coleman--Zabaleta

    Bale--Walcott--Hazard--Pozuelo--Mirallas

    Sturridge--J.Rod--RvW

    Fairly balanced me thinks

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    1. Heydudes13
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Kosc > 4.5/4.0

      Zaba > Nastasic

      JRod > Lambert

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        poor advice, imo.

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  30. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    This is not the first article in the last few days that says Martinez is expected to play 3-4-3... I thought I saw somewhere on here where he was quoted as saying he is favouring 4-3-3. Did I imagine this? 😕

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I have seen both on here, as well.

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