Dugout Discussion

World Cup 2014 – Dugout Discussion – Matchday 6, Day 1

The World Cup returns to our screens once again this evening, after Holland’s dramatic spot-kick win over Costa Rica on Saturday night brought the quarter-finals to a conclusion. This time around, hosts Brazil have it all to do against Germany – with Thiago Silva suspended at the heart of defence and Neymar sidelined due to a back injury, Big Phil Scolari doesn’t have his problems to seek:

Brazil: Cesar; Maicon, Luiz, Dante, Marcelo; Fernandinho, Gustavo; Hulk, Oscar, Bernard; Fred

Germany: Neuer; Lahm, Hummels, Boateng, Hoewedes; Khedira, Schweinsteiger, Kroos; Muller, Klose, Ozil

Scolari makes three changes from the side that narrowly beat Colombia in the quarter-finals. Bayern Munich’s Dante replaces the suspended Silva at centre-half, Luiz Gustavo returns from a one-match ban to take the place of Paulinho in the centre of the park, whilst Shakhtar Donetsk wide man Bernard gets the nod in the attacking midfield three.

The Brazil boss keeps faith with the misfiring Fred, then, despite a return of one goal from the opening five matches, whilst Oscar will be looking to improve upon his recent displays – after a goal and assist in the tournament opener against Croatian, he’s mustered just a single assist in the subsequent four fixtures. David Luiz has been subject to heavy Fantasy interest right across the games after producing two goals and an assist in his last three appearances – as we saw in the win over Jose Pekerman’s side, his set-piece duties could be key if the hosts are to prevail.

For the Germans, Joachim Low continues with the XI that started last week’s 1-0 win over France. Per Mertesacker remains on the bench, then, with Philip Lahm at right-back again and Jerome Boateng partnering Mats Hummels at centre-half, whilst Miroslav Klose is handed the lone forward role.

Top scorer Thomas Muller is looking to end a two-game drought – having scored four times in the group stages, the Bayern man has delivered back-to-back blanks against Algeria and France but will fancy his chances against a backline with one clean sheet in five matches. At the back, Mats Hummels’ second goal of the tournament got the better of the French last weekend and with three clean sheets to his name over four appearances, the Dortmund centre-half has picked up plenty of new Fantasy owners ahead of this evening’s crunch encounter.

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  1. Disco Stu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Stick or twist on Luiz' 7? Have Rojo and Blind on the bench and one is coming on for Hummels

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    1. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Twist

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  2. 420king
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Boateng 8 now, Lahm 13

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    1. chinmusic
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      What's Muller on? Did he get 2 assists or 1?

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      1. 420king
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Still 13 with 1 assist, but those are often added later

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  3. Sif
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone changing formation?
    Might go 4-3-3

    Out - Luiz, Hummels, Gustavo
    In - Blind, Mascherano, Messi

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  4. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Well that was interesting. Wow.

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    1. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Indeed.

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  5. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Brazil deserved to win that match. Terrible refereeing, very suspicious...

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    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      This wouldn't have happened if the Colombia game referee was better.

      Less fouls - Neymar probably wouldn't have happened.

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  6. gart888
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    can someone please tell me which of the 7 german goals was the first lahm assist which may have been touched by muller?

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Kroos 3rd goal

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      1. gart888
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        thanks. just watched it again. 100% muller's assist.

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  7. Bucket_
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Lahm getting one of his assists taken away is a bit ridiculous no? Even if Muller got a touch, didn't cause a drastic change in direction did it?

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    1. gart888
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      which goal did muller potentially touch?

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      1. Bucket_
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Kroos' first?

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      2. kim don juan
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        This
        http://gfycat.com/LimpScholarlyGuanaco

        Looks like he missed to me.

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        1. gart888
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          i just watched it from a couple angles and i think he touches it. coming from a guy who had lahm and didn't have muller.

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          1. kim don juan
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            From that angle it looks like it misses him, have you any links to other angles?

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            1. chinmusic
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              It's not supposed to matter is it? No significant deviation - none at all I would say - so Lahm's assist?

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              1. kim don juan
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 10 months ago

                Not sure but from that angle when you zoom in, it looks like he doesn't touch it at all. It's Fernandhino's run and the camera movement that makes it unclear. But to me it looks like the ball sweeps and bounces without interference.

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              2. gart888
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 10 months ago

                i got the other angles by watching teh game again on cbc.ca, where it looked to me like it touches muller. now, whether or not that actually matters is a different question.

                according to the mcd rules:

                An assist is awarded to a player who plays the final successful pass which leads to a goal. Please note that assists are not awarded to players who are fouled for free-kicks or penalties which lead to goals, for own goals or for goals which result from rebounds off other players or the woodwork.

                i thought it said final "touch". if it's "pass", then it's really hard to give it to muller. should either be lahm's or perhaps nobody if they consider that slight touch a "rebound" off another player.

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                1. chinmusic
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 10 months ago

                  Lahm's it is then

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                  1. gart888
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 10 months ago

                    yeah, i'm leaning that way... but like i said before, mcd's scoring has been atrocious all tournament.

                    i'm still cheesed about a captained clean sheet keeper performance from earlier in the game not getting the save % bonus. 🙁

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                2. kim don juan
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 10 months ago

                  Yeah it's a tough one to tell maybe he did get a niggle on it. I wouldn't like to lose 1st place for it if I was in that position!

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  8. Billy Gilmore
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Despite Klose getting the record goal, surely Muller will surpass him. Up to 8th already at the ripe old age of 24 😯

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    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      8 Goals or ?

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Equal 8th with 10

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          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Agree with your point

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    2. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      How'd you do tonight?

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Will be 55 with Cillessen, De Vrij, Demichelis, Messi, Mascherano and a captain to go.

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        1. Bubz
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Not bad. I'm on 86 with De Vrij, Garay, Messi, Mascherano and a captain to go

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Cillessen to score 32? 😆

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            1. Bubz
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              I wonder how Marr is doing..

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          2. Billy Gilmore
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            I'm due some Ozil delivery points too....

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    3. Disco Stu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Mueller has 10 goals in 12 WC games

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  9. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Wow.

    Incredible result. Never seen a game like it...

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    1. sigaam
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      agree.. my football heart cries with brazil tonight. it was horrible to watch at times, and briliant attacking display at the same time from the germans.

      a semi-final should not be like this.

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  10. r0nh
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Even women are talking about footy on Facebook 😯

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    1. Holy See
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Odd women too I'll wager.

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      1. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Women are odd.

        All.

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      2. Get up ya bum
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Ever met one that wasn't?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Yes. My wife.

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    2. Beautiful Game
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Kroos(c)

      #Bracedelivered 😉

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      1. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        😆

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  11. Beautiful Game
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Gustavo( 7pts ) out for:

    1) Rojo

    OR

    2) Mascherano?

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    1. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      2

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    2. Sif
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      2

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  12. Zasa
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Kinda sucks I started Fox right after the group stages. Got in the t5 points per round since.

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  13. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    3pt hummels...... 😆 you have to laugh

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    1. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I was SO close to captaining Kroos instead of Hummels. So so close 😥

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      My lowest scoring player and of course I gave him (c) 🙂

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        snap 😎

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    3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      even dante has 4

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      1. Lawrø
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        😎

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  14. Arvin-ation
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    FOX bonus points predictions?

    Kroos (3)
    Muller, Schurrle (2)
    Khedira (1)

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Schurrle won't get any bonus.

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      1. Arvin-ation
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        🙁 2 goals though? Next best is Khedira with 1 goal and 1 assist.

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    2. Zep
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Kroos is getting 3BPs...

      I think Muller will get 2 and Shurrle 1...

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      1. Arvin-ation
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        That could work!

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    3. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      only 3 people get it...itll just be that except khedira wont get any and schurrle will get 1

      well done in fox btw...you can definitely win it! 🙂

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      1. Arvin-ation
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Whoops. Didn't know

        Thanks 🙂

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    4. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      They don't give equal bonus.

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      1. Arvin-ation
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        😳

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    5. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Looks like I'll drop rank by 1 after bonus points are added.

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  15. Get up ya bum
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Price predos for cortois, debuchy, mata, sanchez and kun?

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    1. Zep
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      6.5, 5.5, 9.5, 10.5, 11.5

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        No half measures then 😉

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        1. Zep
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          I'm gonna bookmark this and check back to see how many I get right... 😉

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  16. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Didn't shwineshtiger had an assist??? No assist on mcd.

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    1. emperikal
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Sadly no. 7 goals and he couldn't get in on the action!

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    2. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      🙁

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  17. emperikal
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Rank only dropped from 118 to 152 surprisingly considering I don't have Kroos or Khedira. Lot of dud scores though 🙁

    Why is Lahm missing an assist?

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      muller got a touch...

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      1. chinmusic
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        He didn't

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        1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          he did...very faint...

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          1. chinmusic
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            If he did it was the merest accidental nick - clearly not an assist by most games' rules

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            1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              yeah its pretty jammy lol...lahm deserves the credit really

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        2. Phil_fox85
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Well it's on neither player.

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          1. emperikal
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            This. I have both of them so just give it to somebody lol

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      2. emperikal
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        In the replay I saw he completely missed the ball tbh

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        1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          hmm...to the naked eye I thought he flicked it...

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  18. I.A.P
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Gustavo and Luiz on 7 Hummels on 3.

    Drop them all for Robben De Vrij and Wijnaldum ?

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    1. Zasa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Myes

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      1. I.A.P
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Might just do Hummels to Robben

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    2. Root
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Don't know about Wijnaldum.

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      1. I.A.P
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I'd De Jong plays Wijnaldum won't.

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    3. Hurricane
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      wait for line ups tomorrow

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  19. JT's Dog
      9 years, 10 months ago

      anyone else not got this round points added to total score

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    • Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article4142580.ece
      Adidas ready to sign £750m ten-year kit deal with Manchester United

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Thank feck it wasn't Warrior

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        1. Demí
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          This

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Giroud back up? He's better than Giroud

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        1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          at scoring goals.

          assists, chance creation, passing accuracy, key passes numbers are all better for giroud.

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          1. Captain Shirokov
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            I guess, but scoring goals is the main thing you look for from your striker

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      2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I would be very, very happy if we bought remy and sanchez

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        1. Saniul
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          And debuchy and khedira. 😉

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          1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            id prefer lars bender to khedira...better tackler

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    • ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Has there ever been a result like that in WC history?

      I.e 2 top teams where one batters the other in the knockout stage?

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      1. AIRMILES
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Portugal beat N Korea 7-0 last time, but that wasn't a huge surprise.

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    • pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Link to the spreadsheet please.

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    • Disco Stu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Sitting on 54 from 4 in Mickey D's.

      Cillessen, DeVrij, Blind, Rojo, Masch, Robben and Messi still to go. Who to put the C on tomorrow?

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      1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        messi

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    • Keepergirl
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Last transfer, 10 minutes before game...Luiz and Wijnaldum out, Kroos and Garay in
      Whewww...
      I'm a newbie at this, but pleased with my 5K place in McD's

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    • Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      gotta be robben captain tomorrow......there has to be goals

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    • Zasa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Luiz down to 6

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      1. Root
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Wijdaldum in it is then. 7 points was my cut off.

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      2. emperikal
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Damn.. and I have to keep him with Hummels and Dante sh*tting the bed

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    • ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Di Maria (Influential player) out for Argentina tomorrow.

      I am expecting a Netherlands 2 or 3-0 after tonight....

      A European derby in south America - who'd have thought it!

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      1. AIRMILES
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah, but Nigel de Jong out too - who will tame Messi?

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    • Beautiful Game
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Score Check (McD):

      83 with 5 to play!

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      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        88 Hummels fail though. Probably take Hummels Fernandinho and Luiz out. Leaves me Cillesen DeVrij Garay Mascherano Messi tomorrow

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      2. Hurricane
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        well done!
        82 with 3 left here

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